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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 18/08/2003 14:43:06
I love it when people go over the top when they react to silly stuff. Quitting your own fun because a GM says something "rude"? That's like saying "This new BMW commercial is so offensive, I'm going to the nearest cliff and push my Z3 over the edge out of spite".
kekeke
If I didn't like the company ethos then I probably wouldn't have bought a Z3 in the first place. And if their customer service was as rude as this lot then I probably wouldn't buy another.
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DATEK
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: DATEK on 18/08/2003 15:17:40
The GMs are in the game to help make it a more enjoyable experience for all of us. They deserve our thanks and respect. It is just plain common decency to not attack GMs, pod kill them, and then play childish 'haha I've got your corpse, what are ya gonna give me for it' games. Perhaps more aggressive use of bans and other penalties with obnoxious and disruptive players in the future would reduce incidents of this nature and make EVE a more enjoyable experience for all.
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: DATEK on 18/08/2003 15:17:40
It is just plain common decency to not attack GMs, pod kill them, and then play childish 'haha I've got your corpse, what are ya gonna give me for it' games.
DATEK, u can argue this point in reverse aswell, how come the gms were allowed to attack m0o b4, if sum1 attacks you once its perfectly reasonable and plain common sense to assume they will do it again sumtime, they cant wait to be fired upon to then wait 5 seconds to lock then start returning fire, corpse are made as biomass for tech lvl 4 or 5, and as trophies to the ppl u kill, its not fair that a GM can tell u that he doesnt like his trophy been displayed around so he wants it back, and the fact that banning was implied is a complete abuse of power for a player defending himself against possible(and past proven) attack.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: DATEK on 18/08/2003 15:17:40
The GMs are in the game to help make it a more enjoyable experience for all of us. They deserve our thanks and respect. It is just plain common decency to not attack GMs, pod kill them, and then play childish 'haha I've got your corpse, what are ya gonna give me for it' games. Perhaps more aggressive use of bans and other penalties with obnoxious and disruptive players in the future would reduce incidents of this nature and make EVE a more enjoyable experience for all.
So when they pop'd out several bs's to move m0o out of mara that was making the game fun? So when they pod'd the reverend, that was fun? Why have double standards now? They used thier concord ships on us, concord is concord, and attackable element in the game.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:38:00 -
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Mandos, is this the correct @#$% thread to post in ffs? You've deleted my post about 3 times today. So bugger off.. because I'm going to post it again.
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You've got to be kidding me.
If you want to not be shot at, ask the devs to make it not possible to lock GM ships.
Don't come to the forum and post some plea for not being shot at, it won't be effective at all. This is a problem that should be resolved from a design perspective not a customer perspective. So go talk to Hellmar.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:38:00 -
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Pretty soon a break will form between CCP and the disgruntled players. What's occured so far is pretty mild compared to what goes on when that happens.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:45:00 -
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Is one of the rudest things I have ever read. Considering we are paying customers of this game to be "spoken" to like nothing but a mere bunch of school children is coarse and patronising.
I have been playing the game and enjoying it immenseley for a couple of weeks now but I find that beyond the pale and am seriously reconsidering whether to renew my account. Even though I was no where near what actually happened to speak to your customers in this way is shocking. An explanation and POLITE request would have sufficed.
People are not being paid to listen to BS. I wonder why lots of people think that, because they pay for a service, they have the right to insult the guys who deliver the service, or do anything they might think of, no matter if it will harm the right of another player.
If you really think that because you are paying for this service, you may do whatever you want, please, leave.
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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tomus on 18/08/2003 15:58:56
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People are not being paid to listen to BS. I wonder why lots of people think that, because they pay for a service, they have the right to insult the guys who deliver the service, or do anything they might think of, no matter if it will harm the right of another player.
If you really think that because you are paying for this service, you may do whatever you want, please, leave.
I've never been rude to them. So should every player on here be spoken to in the same way because of a few people?
I don't think so. Buh Bye.
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Kiran Kidashuen
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:02:00 -
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ok in response to "We pay so we can do and act as we please" Attitudes hear this
In NYC there is public transportation that costs 1.50 per fare.
Now when you pay that 1.50 and get on the "PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION" You are NOT allowed to yell and scream like a lunatic. You are NOT allowed to throw whatever propaganda all over the subways.
"But we paid" Yes we paid for the service provided. Not to bicker and complain and deface CCP. The situiation has gone from critisim to all out anti CCPism (If there is such a thing)
Just because we pay for the service doesn't mean we can do whatever we want with it.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tomus on 18/08/2003 15:58:56
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People are not being paid to listen to BS. I wonder why lots of people think that, because they pay for a service, they have the right to insult the guys who deliver the service, or do anything they might think of, no matter if it will harm the right of another player.
If you really think that because you are paying for this service, you may do whatever you want, please, leave.
I've never been rude to them. So should every player on here be spoken to in the same way because of a few people?
I don't think so. Buh Bye.
The hat fits pretty well on your head !
I was not talking about any1 specifically. But feel free to express yourself. What I had to say is up there. BTW, I actually read the forum rules too.
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Guardian334
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:05:00 -
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If GMs, wearing their GM tags, using GM ships, really did attack a group of players (even pirates, sigh, bastard pirates are players too I suppose); then LAYING DOWN THE LAW on players attacking GMs is a really sad powergamer fit.
IMO, obviously. Can't have it both ways. Either this attack that supposedly happened against M00 occurred and that means GMs are in-game, or it didn't and players attacking GMs is equally as bad as a player punching a referee in football (either kind).
And on another note, the static between Devs/GMs and Players is starting to get as bad as it was in Everquest years 2 and 3, and that's really really bad. Players should not be ****s, and that goes as well for everyone else involved in the game. Cut it out.
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:07:00 -
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It would seem people have forgotten just _why_ the GMs broke Moo's "blockade". 
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Guardian334
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:14:00 -
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If action needs to be taken use the GM god powers to do so, or change persona (tag and ship) if an in-game method of taking action is preferred. Taking in-game action wearing UNTOUCHABLE gm tags is A Bad Idea, speaking as a long time gamer.
I don't support Pirates nor do I support prima donna crap like I'm reading on the boards today; but as a player, if I'm going to be attacked by GM ships sometimes, I have to know WITHOUT A DOUBT when it occurs what I'm allowed to do. Nothing is not a valid action if I'm playing and suddenly am attacked in-game.
My objection is utterly about the tag issue; if acting as a rpg element, change tags. If acting as a game authority, use gm. In-game attacking of players by game-authorities is something I've seen many times in live action rpgs (look it up if you only understand computer games) and is the fastest way possible to destroy a game. Corrective actions designed to fix or solve problems with players should not occur in-game (i.e., on camera), but out-of-game.
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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:22:00 -
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ok in response to "We pay so we can do and act as we please" Attitudes hear this
In NYC there is public transportation that costs 1.50 per fare.
Now when you pay that 1.50 and get on the "PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION" You are NOT allowed to yell and scream like a lunatic. You are NOT allowed to throw whatever propaganda all over the subways.
"But we paid" Yes we paid for the service provided. Not to bicker and complain and deface CCP. The situiation has gone from critisim to all out anti CCPism (If there is such a thing)
Just because we pay for the service doesn't mean we can do whatever we want with it.
Would you expect then because a few people had been rude to subway staff that they could speak to you as they so desired?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:33:00 -
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It would seem people have forgotten just _why_ the GMs broke Moo's "blockade".
Because they had established a blockade in .4 space and were killing anything in sight. The GMs broke the blockade because people complained vicously about it. This was before the big can debate btw.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
undercover
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:55:00 -
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Talk about been OTT. A GM asks for his corpse back and Ywev says no.
A GM out ranks Ywev in my opinion and Ywev takes it too far.
Then nearly everyone jumps on the band wagon complaining about how harsh the GMs are, double standards by CCP etc.
Live with it.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:57:00 -
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It would seem people have forgotten just _why_ the GMs broke Moo's "blockade".
Because they had established a blockade in .4 space and were killing anything in sight. The GMs broke the blockade because people complained vicously about it. This was before the big can debate btw.
Unless I'm mistaken*, this was around the time when there were no clones, and people were getting their skills rolled back a week by m0o.
I can't remember if the GM's used their 'GM <name>' accounts though. I thought they went in as 'the four'.
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Kiran Kidashuen
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:59:00 -
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My dear Tomas
Have you ever been to NYC?? If you are rude to one of the station conductors for instance they will simply close their little station door and ignore you.
If you are rude to them what makes you think they will bow down to you??
Like I said before they offer a service. If you are rude to a cop you either get a summons or jail for really bad offences.
I don't exactly agree that it is right but this is the real world we all live in.
Deal with it!!
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:13:00 -
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Because they had established a blockade in .4 space and were killing anything in sight. The GMs broke the blockade because people complained vicously about it. This was before the big can debate btw.
Precisely.
Moo did something that disrupted the enjoyment of a large amount of people, the GMs, not using their "GM (Name)" accounts sorted the problem out within a Roleplay context.
You cannot compare that to what V is doing.
V attacked and destroyed a GM _while that GM was on the way to help someone_, he was not Roleplaying, he has not justified why he did this and, above all, he came running to the forums to brag about the kill while complaining about having the "corpse" stripped off of him.
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calliope
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: calliope on 18/08/2003 17:18:26
I've been playing for about a month (not much by eve standards, but I'm not a complete noob).
I play the game, I join in I read the forums.
I have, until this post not seen anything anywhere that indicated that someone with a name that started with the letters "GM" was a GM and not simply a player character with an interesting nomenclature.
If it is to be made a punishable 'offence' to attack a GM, it should be blatantly obvious that it is not permitted. Posting on the forums doesn't count - I know many players who don't regularly read them.
If a GM is roleplaying it should be clear that they are and they should be targetable.
If a GM is trying to reproduce a bug and perhaps god-mode is not an option (as they are trying to replicate a player experience and god-mode would contaminate the result) they should have a dirty great big tag saying "GM bug hunting, pod me and get banned".
If the GMs want us to obey these rules (something I have absolutely nothing against) then it must be easy for us to do so.
What is permissible must be clear and unambiguous. Make it hard for people and they'll get confused and they'll shoot first, ask questions later.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:22:00 -
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LOL - this all reminds me of when something similar happened in UO and someone got hold of a GM robe and tried to sell it on Ebay.
Whoever said the thing about having invincible ships is totally correct. All GMs responding to a petition type call should be in one and also have something like "GM Thingy (invincible)" as their names to show they are not part of the action.
As for when they ARE part of the action then they should use names that DONT have GM in front and not fly the invincible ships.... simple as that.
You will never stop everyone shooting at what people think is a possible target and not everyone reads these boards. When I was a counsellor for UO I got attacked by reds (think player pirates) during calls on more than one occasion. I just laughed and vanished.
I'm not blaming CCP (it's their first MMOG) but I really think they need to get in touch with a team of experienced MMOG runners who have done this sort of thing for a few years. A lot of these whoopsies just sound like inexperience to me.
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:45:00 -
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Priceless!!!
Moo camps gates, because they "can", tells all to get tactics/equipment/allies blah blah blah, and to suck it up.
GM's pwnd Mookidd, because they "can", mookidd jumps up and down and crys foul..
Suck it up boyeeeeeeee'
Reap what you sow..
ROFLMFAO
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:51:00 -
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Priceless!!!
Moo camps gates, because they "can", tells all to get tactics/equipment/allies blah blah blah, and to suck it up.
GM's pwnd Mookidd, because they "can", mookidd jumps up and down and crys foul..
Suck it up boyeeeeeeee'
Reap what you sow..
ROFLMFAO
euh? who pwns who? afaik its the corpse of a gm, I must be going blind 
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Da5id
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Da5id on 18/08/2003 17:54:00
Tomus there is a difference between someone being rude and someone speaking clearly and decisively.
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:56:00 -
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Who has the corpse, mookidds?
eh?
eh?
thought so..
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plur
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:06:00 -
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Basically, what the GM's did, is get their ego bruised the ABUSE their powers to BULLY a player.
Shame on you Grimmi and Xhadren. i hope you are reprimanded or even loose your jobs.
you are in your role to PREVENT people exploiting and bullying, NOT to do it yourselves. you disgust me.
if i had been at a gate and GM's came to attack me, not once... but TWICe (second time using concord battleships) then another GM came to a gate i was at... to right id bloody shoot him.
are we supposed to right click and wait 2 days for the player info to show up, because of your uber laggy servers, just to make sure they arent in polaris or a GM every time we shoot someone from now on?
BITE ME.
why couldnt you go to the gate in a polaris frigate? you can spawn anything in the game or use god mode!
i bet it was deliberate, you knew you would be shot at. anyone who had been attacked twice before by GM's would do the same. you knew full well you would be fired on (you could have always run off!) but no.. you sat there and allowed yourself to be pod killed then bullied a player.
its not like you have worked a month for the ship, then lost it to a bug or unstable server, then get told "sorry aint replacing it" even when your buddy has had the same thing happen to them and got their replaced.
inconsistent, bullying, self important, pretentious GM's
i WILL shoot at you if i see you, because your actions have deserved it, dont like it? use god mode then. 
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Graffix
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:12:00 -
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I think if the GM's are going to be in game doing whatever it they have to do, they should have special GM tags and are invinceable, but at the same time, have no guns. therefore they cant attack and are of no threat to any pirates who might be on edge when they see GM's in the system. If GM's are going to roleplay, they should do it in the form of Concord or the Jovians so that there is no confusion as to whether they are fair game or not. And if they are in the form of Concord or the Jovians they deserve any treatment given to them. If the GM's that play concord or the jovians have next to godly skills etc. the comunity has the right to call foul or bloody murder, if they can shoot and not be fired apon while roleplaying, or take next to nothing in damage, theres a problem.
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Zell
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:13:00 -
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Ready kidds??
Sing it with me..
"I fought the law, and the, law won.."
Don't like it, don't play, don't make excuses...
Ive never been attacked by a GM, but hey, im not a grief---, er pirate.
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plur
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:15:00 -
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Zell, what they are saying is this:
If the GM's decide to get out their ubder concord ships and go attakc players again they can, AND the players arent allowed to fire back or they get banned.
zell, go back to your veldspar and be quiet.
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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:16:00 -
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"I have, until this post not seen anything anywhere that indicated that someone with a name that started with the letters "GM" was a GM and not simply a player character with an interesting nomenclature.."
Regardless of any other considerations, that is NOT well known. And despite the post, I was not aware that it was an offense to attack a GM - and I have played since beta 6 and follow the boards here quite often.
If there are any more rules that we should know about, perhaps they also should be posted.
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