The kettle being genocidal, slaver, zealots and the pot helping other civilizations to the stars and treating member states equally.

The kettle being genocidal, slaver, zealots and the pot helping other civilizations to the stars and treating member states equally.

Sure, we have similar desires, but our differing methodologies make it pointless to try and draw any parallels.

Remind me again how "Equally" my people were treated before we seceded. Oh that's right, there was that fun little moment where the Gallenteans were bombarding us from orbit, and shooting down transports attempting to flee.

Technically, that was after we seceded.

Remember that the government that bombed your planet didn't really represent the vast majority of Gallenteans either.

well, no. it seized emergency powers.

The parallel is that the Federation and Empire both firmly believe that they're entirely correct, and are dreadful at listening to any other points of view. You yourself have demonstrated this more than once recently. I actually liked the Federation until you and that Bete idiot came in and started spouting off. Guess my memories of the place when I lived there are a little rose-tinted.

*cough* But some more equally than others, right?

The parallel is that the Federation and Empire both firmly believe that they're entirely correct, and are dreadful at listening to any other points of view. You yourself have demonstrated this more than once recently. I actually liked the Federation until you and that Bete idiot came in and started spouting off. Guess my memories of the place when I lived there are a little rose-tinted.

You're seriously going to write off an entire nation based upon the IGS posts of two people? That's your prerogative of course but, isn't that the very definition of prejudice? If I were to take your stance I'd go on a murderous rampage in the Empire or Mandate based on the prattle posted by Noh, Blake or Luftschreck.

There's a pattern with you. First you try to say "The Amarr aren't so bad, look at the Federation!" and then you are reduced to ad hominem whenever a loyal Federation citizen point out that what you're saying is incorrect. No matter what you say, the truth will not be obscured. The Gallente never took slaves, the Amarr did. The Gallente never exterminated entire races, the Amarr did. The Gallente never used aggression before diplomacy, the Amarr did.

You can try to lessen the crimes of your Empire all you want, you will never succeed.

...They were not assumptions good sir. As this is the first time I believe we've talked, I was unsure of your views and misinterpreted them. You can feel free to think otherwise, but I'm afraid your claims have no support behind them.

If you aren't insecure or trying to make yourself appear morally sound, then why do you feel the need to use the horribly cliche and outright silly "It's because I'm Minmatar" defense? It's as illogical as me claiming you are stereotyping me as a racist, because other Gallenteans are racist. Do you see how rediculous it sounds? Get a grip.

There is a difference between misunderstanding someone and making assumptions. I'm not sure why that concept is so difficult to grasp for you. Again, believe what you want, but the burden of proof lies on you. And yes, that is a challenge for you to find solid evidence that I'm making assumptions based on race. I doubt you can though, considering you just felt like throwing random accusations at me with no facts or logic behind them because you are a race baiter.

Finally, if an Amarrian can regularly look down on the rest of the cluster with a false sense of superiority I think someone should be able to paint them as a child once in a while.

Rikaato. Of course, the entire point of the secession was that the Federation's "representative democracy" didn't in fact represent the Caldari at all because the Gallente had, thanks to their larger population, a much larger share of the vote meaning that the Caldari people had effectively zero input into the political process they had been convinced to buy into, so it's not like we were treated equally before the secession either.

In this way, all misunderstandings are assumptions, but not all assumptions are misunderstandings.

Anyways, semantics tires me. I hope I have pointed out the difference between assumptions and misunderstandings that you seemed adamant about, and shown you that I do understand such differences. Beyond that though, there is no "burden of proof" for me. This is not a Gallente court of law and I do not have to shove a bloody knife in your face to prove you are the killer. What is clear to me is not something I need to prove to others. I'm neither judge, jury, nor executioner, but just a witness.

In my opinion, you made those misunderstandings mostly based off my race. I understand my words may have caused some confusion, but I truly don't think you would've met the same conclusion had I been Caldari or Amarr.

-Eran

To assume we were on the same page simply because I'm Minmatar was an example of this. Or if you want to say you didn't assume that because of my race, and I am mistaken, then why did you?

-Eran

When you said:

I personally interpreted it as "you didn't describe the Amarr bad enough" rather than "you didn't describe them in a good way". This fault is purely mine and I acknowledged it. As much as you would like to think, race has nothing to do with it.

Lord, let us just drop the subject, this is clearly getting us nowhere.

It is divine mandate that the most holy Amarrian empire go forth and reclaim all nations, that they may be saved from their wickedness. For far too long we have defaulted on our obligation to deliver many a miserable wretch from the demons that control and influence. We have stood by while the wicked slander us and our righteous empire, this must end.

In this time of darkness, when supposed allies are at odds, it is time for the rightous to once more rise up into the heavens and return to the task put forth since those most ancient of times, that most holy task the Lord most high has bestowed upon us.

Yes, declare war in name of the Reclaiming on the other three major empires and watch them unite against you like the four did against Sansha. The Empire would not last. Welcome to reality-sorry if it damages your ego.

-Eran

Yes, declare war in name of the Reclaiming on the other three major empires and watch them unite against you like the four did against Sansha

Reclaiming is not war, it is a service performed for the benefit of all unsaved souls, that they may come into holy service and be redeemed.

If not us, who? If not now, when?

Reclaiming is not war, it is a service performed for the benefit of all unsaved souls, that they may come into holy service and be redeemed.

If not us, who? If not now, when?