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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 07:58:00 -
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 Originally by: j0sephine
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Unless he believed your lie about having no implants and 4 mil clone, and decided between 3 mil and revenge the 3 millions was worth less...
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Same thing with 1 vs 1's, you don't offer someone a 1 vs 1 to warp scramble him and get your friends to gank him.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.12.27 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Originally by: j0sephine
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Unless he believed your lie about having no implants and 4 mil clone, and decided between 3 mil and revenge the 3 millions was worth less...
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Same thing with 1 vs 1's, you don't offer someone a 1 vs 1 to warp scramble him and get your friends to gank him.
Says who you? Learn to adapt and use common sense already. Why are you still going on about your own stupidity. It sucks it happen and I wish more people were honorable too but that isn't very realistic now is it? My god how cool would it be if terrorist wouldn't chop off the heads of innocent people in the real world. Learn to use that brain of yours and quit posting up whine threads of pointless arguements that's your own damn fault. He is not wrong, you were wrong. Wrong in thinking you could trust someone in EVE. First thing you should learn in EVE is to TRUST NOONE. I say it's green, you say it's BLUE!
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Originally by: Jane Vladmir
Originally by: j0sephine
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Unless he believed your lie about having no implants and 4 mil clone, and decided between 3 mil and revenge the 3 millions was worth less...
"He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then."
Same thing with 1 vs 1's, you don't offer someone a 1 vs 1 to warp scramble him and get your friends to gank him.
Says who you? Learn to adapt and use common sense already. Why are you still going on about your own stupidity. It sucks it happen and I wish more people were honorable too but that isn't very realistic now is it? My god how cool would it be if terrorist wouldn't chop off the heads of innocent people in the real world. Learn to use that brain of yours and quit posting up whine threads of pointless arguements that's your own damn fault. He is not wrong, you were wrong. Wrong in thinking you could trust someone in EVE. First thing you should learn in EVE is to TRUST NOONE. I say it's green, you say it's BLUE!
You're stupid. And that was a terrible comparison. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:08:00 -
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I'm not a pirate.
And yes Famine is stupid and apparently a stranger to the concept of honoring deals/contracts/promises.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I'm not a pirate.
And yes Famine is stupid and apparently a stranger to the concept of honoring deals/contracts/promises.
I'm sorry what? I'm stupid for not trusting anyone and if I was in her situtation I would of maybe had a better chance of saving my implants by NOT trusting him when he said I could pass. So again why is it i'm the stupid one for using more common sense then saying "Ok he will honor my 2 million isk and let me go". So maybe I would of lived and where she died I would of maybe gained much more? Like um keeping my 200million isk worth of implants.
Do you people seriously think like this? Especialy you Tyrrax? God man i'm in the wrong buisness that's for sure. I need to start conning people instead of trying to be a pirate. Maybe I can get more people to hand over millions of isk based on this so called "Trust" we have in EVE now.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:19:00 -
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I agree with honourable ransoms and pirates, I also agree with honouring 1v1's.
But for me what this guy did seems actually quite clever and sneaky. He had no intention of taking your isk, his only intention was to kill you...and he did it.
I mean its not as if he took your isk podded you and then said in the convo.... haha you sux, i took your isk and podded you cos you are piwate.
I don't know exactly why, but this doesn't feel like a dishounarble thing, just a very cheeky tactic.
Death and Glory in H-PA
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Mira deVorsha
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I'm not a pirate.
And yes Famine is stupid and apparently a stranger to the concept of honoring deals/contracts/promises.
the only stupid person is one who thinks after ganking a corp and a member of that corp that the said person would allow them to leave a system for measly 3 million isk.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mira deVorsha
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I'm not a pirate.
And yes Famine is stupid and apparently a stranger to the concept of honoring deals/contracts/promises.
the only stupid person is one who thinks after ganking a corp and a member of that corp that the said person would allow them to leave a system for measly 3 million isk.
Shhh everyone in EVE is honorable. You're stupid for thinking otherwise. Don't be stupid, believe everything your enemy tells you... Otherwise you're stupid ok?
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Meryl Stryfe
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Meryl Stryfe on 27/12/2005 09:36:18
Originally by: Mira deVorsha
the only stupid person is one who thinks after ganking a corp and a member of that corp that the said person would allow them to leave a system for measly 3 million isk.
Bingo! We have a winner. The whole truth never comes out in the first post.
I kind of think keeping the isk would've added some extra cheek to this whole situation. This was not an example of a belt pirate not keeping his word, and shouldn't be treated as such.
Insult + Injury = Teh Win
But also props to Jane for not logging and taking the risk.
PS: Famine, I have a bridge in escrow for you, claim it quick, it's a once-in-a-lifetime deal! 
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:38:00 -
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I would say you are right it is low of him to say ok and still kill you.
On the other hand if he has to choose between revenge and 3M I cannot blame him for having his revenge. But as said he should not have said ok to the 3M if he wanted his revenge.
Personaly I would kick him from my corp should a he be a member. I seriously do not like people who do not make good on their word.
Since I also really dislike people whining about getting podded (no mater what the situation is) I hope next time you get podded you will not bother the rest of the EVE world with your dead.
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sully lang
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:53:00 -
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@ jane vladmir hahahahahahhahah what goes around comes around you deserve all you get . you podded me in vecamia while i was still relativley young you didnt even ransome me you popped my cyclone and called me a scum bag my char name was " lazlow lang" so boo hoo da poor pirate got podded TUFF
cu out there i hope
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: sully lang
@ jane vladmir hahahahahahhahah what goes around comes around you deserve all you get . you podded me in vecamia while i was still relativley young you didnt even ransome me you popped my cyclone and called me a scum bag my char name was " lazlow lang" so boo hoo da poor pirate got podded TUFF
cu out there i hope
now Jane, like i said if the guy podded you and said that ^^. Then I would be totally on your side.
Death and Glory in H-PA
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ralitge boyter
I would say you are right it is low of him to say ok and still kill you.
On the other hand if he has to choose between revenge and 3M I cannot blame him for having his revenge. But as said he should not have said ok to the 3M if he wanted his revenge.
Personaly I would kick him from my corp should a he be a member. I seriously do not like people who do not make good on their word.
Since I also really dislike people whining about getting podded (no mater what the situation is) I hope next time you get podded you will not bother the rest of the EVE world with your dead.
I did not make this post to bother people with whinage and neither to try to get people¦s sympathy. I made this post to point out a pathetic player and to make that player pay for his low blow against me.
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:00:00 -
[44]
Originally by: sully lang
Edited by: sully lang on 27/12/2005 09:55:00
@ jane vladmir hahahahahahhahah what goes around comes around you deserve all you get . you popped me in vecamia while i was still relativley young you didnt even ransome me you popped my cyclone and called me a scum bag my char name was " lazlow lang" so boo hoo da poor pirate got podded TUFF
cu out there i hope
I sincerely doubt I called you a 'scum bag' random victim. 
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ddss
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:08:00 -
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never ceases to amaze me ... pirates moaning about low blow ..imean come on , it comes with the territory ..he gave you your 3 mill back you lied about your impys .. i really cant see your complaint . duplicity seems to be a pirate way of life . the guy wanted his revenge so he changed his mind and podded you . dont tell me you havent done some really nasty stuff in your illustrious career
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sully lang
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:12:00 -
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i believe your exact words were "stayout of MY system scumbag"
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sully lang
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:13:00 -
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wow me n dd look like twins
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sully lang
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:14:00 -
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btw i like the tag " random victim " class jane... class
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:27:00 -
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Please don't try to change the conversation or get this post locked by flooding, I didn't make this post to argue with you what's morally right. Read my previous post about why I made it if you're still unclear on that. 
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:38:00 -
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PA used to be nice ppl, now i see that they are lying cheating scum.
i forsee many PA being screwed over on ransoms in the future though, and given Damious name to complain to.
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Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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sully lang
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:40:00 -
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please explain why the guy was pathetic ?? just because he didnt follow your idea of how the game should be played was that it?. if so should we all conform and do what you want? i dont think so~! .. and is replying to a post called flooding now?
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: sully lang
and is replying to a post called flooding now?
Replying 4 times within 6 minutes is flooding afaik.
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yard dog
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Posted - 2005.12.27 10:57:00 -
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ho ok im done 
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Josarian Lysandor
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:00:00 -
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Damious knew Jane was in a pod...otherwise I doubt he would have even tried to interdict.
But shooting defenseless persons isn't the topic.
Anyhow an agreement was reached between two parties, but one party didn't uphold their end. This is what we who are in business call, bad. I can't say I would do business with Mr Damious now, and anyone associated with him at all would get a careful examination.
Honor is so very rare in Eve...I doubt he knows what he should have done instead.
~Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:02:00 -
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I'm not saying Jane was smart to expect to be let by after paying 3 mil.
Whether it was stupid or not is entirely beside the point, the guy made a deal and then betrayed his word, Famine seems to think it's entirely okay and perfectly normal behavior, that's what I find to be stupid.
I dunno what jane was thinking believing someone from PA who he had recently pirated...
I mean honestly, PA honoring a deal ? About as likely as PA honoring a 1vs1. Not gonna happen.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 27/12/2005 11:18:45
Jane convo'd you politely and asked you for a toll, you accepted, yet you still popped him...
You are a snake sir.
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Absolute Evil
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:45:00 -
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I personally thinks its lame, another person with no honour so im gunna send ya some isk. And this guy will go on my to do list.
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Ioudas Iskariotes
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:47:00 -
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I actually find it kind of amusing that certain amounts of dishonesty are acceptable while others are not.
Someone wormed there way into your trust and robbed your corp? Tough, stealing is a part of the game, don't trust anyone.
Someone baited a can and when you took the loot flew in with a raven and fragged you? Tough you shoulda known the consequences and if you didn't chalk it up to a lesson learned.
Someone invites you on a complex run and when you show up you find yourself face to face with 3 bruisers and lose your ship? Tough pirating is a legitimate part of the game and you should have known not to trust anyone.
Someone comes along your miner in low sec space and frags your ship as well as your pod without offering ransom? Tough, low sec space is rough and if you can't handle the risks you shouldn't be there.
You offer a ransom and someone blows you up anyways? HOLY MOLY! Which hunt! That person is dishonerable! I can't believe they had the nevrve to go there!
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It's pathetic really. And I'll tell you why.
1)It's a video game and hence nothing done in the game can be immoral, except for playing in a way not designed by the game mechanics and hence ruining the game itself. If it is not limited by game mechanics it isn't immoral. We ar enot killing real people or stealing real stuff. No such thing as immorality.
2)The real reason people get all crazy about not honoring a ransom is because it makes it that much harder for other pirates to get their ransoms. Tough, if that's they way someone wants to play their game, then that's how it is. He will pay the consequences for his actions and guess what other people may too. But then that could be said of anyone in the game.
3)Someone said that it was "Bad business". Well not everyone plays the game to be businessmen/women. And if killing someone is a lot more important to the guy than the money, who are you to argue with that? There are a lot of motivations in the world. Money is one...Revenge is another.
4)Everyone gets the idea that pirates(or anyone who plays) have to all be out there acting like Errol Flynn in Captain Blood... But pirates weren't like that. What about Edward Teach, what about William Kidd or Calico Jack? What about the murdering, pillaging true villians of history? I'm not saying that everyone should act like that. What I'm saying is that if someone wishes to, who are you to say they are wrong?
Don't kill people if you don't want people mad at you.
Blah
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: FoRGyL on 27/12/2005 11:54:16
Originally by: j0sephine
"Jane Vladmir > 3m to pass through in my pod.
Damious > you must hav more implants than that cinse you're offering toll
Damious > yes?
Jane Vladmir > Nope, just if I get podded I'll get sent to the other side of EVE, and
I'm an outlaw so it takes time to move around, you see.
Jane Vladmir > My clone costs 4m, I'm offering you 3m to pass through.
(..)
After that I warped to the gate at 15km and he still popped me.
I had implants worth around 200m.
I re-convo him and here's what I got.
Jane Vladmir > What the f***?
Damious > you killed my coert costing me 40mil few days ago, this is a small token
of apprecaition thanks
Jane Vladmir > I sent you the toll?
Damious > sent back, I am not th epirate
Damious > happy travelling and hope to pod you gain
I have never in my whole 2 years ransomed someone and still popped him.
That's low.
I hope he gets kicked out of his corp, I mean that's not good christmas spirit. "
Well, you lied to him and he lied to you. Who knows, maybe if you didn't try to be tricky about it and paid more than those 3 measly mil, you'd still have the implants intact... 50 mil of ransom would more than cover those 40 you costed him just few days earlier, and it's still way below 200 mil your implants were worth.
Just something to ponder... ;s
Up to the other guy that isen't to bright to say in that case this is just wrong and u seem clever so think about it.
If he was/is ****t he should have keept up camping not taken toll.
Somethings is a nogo imho.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.12.27 11:52:00 -
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Yeah thats low ... kill him repeatedly if you ever see him
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