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VladImpaler	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:21:00 - [121] Originally by: suicidal suzy Originally by: VladImpaler Ok, supposing this is just a "roadtrip", at what point does it stop being a vacation? From the looks of it, BoB could turn around and go home now, "mission accomplished", 4 dread kills, a bunch of zydrine, several POS, and an outpost under their belts. You got what you wanted, except for the fight maybe. As for IRON, what's the holdup? How long are you going to tolerate BoB sitting in your own outpost and camping your stations? Do you hope they will get bored and go away? lookie here.. i got the attention of the alt-threadmaker. and now he is trying to confirm his position as a non-bob-alt. pretty nice job too. and you even got a jab in against iron in the end. nice. Glad you liked it.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:25:00 - [122] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 19:03:26 Originally by: suicidal suzy keep fighting the straightforward smackfree fight g/iron! you scared the mighty bob. Not really, pretty much everything we suspected has come to pass. A shock might have been if IRON or anyone in the North had defended their space successfully but alas it was not to be. Since the defeat to G last night, we've gone on to destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance. When G turn up to fight, we know we'll get a proper fight, the rest of the time it's just a race to see who can get on the killmails and has been since we arrived at the start of the month in all regions in the North. dbp smacktastic dbp! as always. still following the "praise g-slander iron"-line too. i don't believe you tho, you contradict yourself within your own post. i am sure that the iron pilots not occupied in the south/stuck in the postpatch lag and their friends have made you work to keep ju and the outpost. i'm not going into the numbers, killboards are your game and while you are great at it, i dont like playing by your rules. but, how do you "destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance"?? were they afk at a gate? please, stop the forum war.
Caybn E'vangel	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:32:00 - [123] Originally by: suicidal suzy but, how do you "destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance"?? were they afk at a gate? please, stop the forum war. If I.R.O.N. were drunk and afk losing dreads, I would have more respect for them. But no, Iron lose their Dreads the old fashioned way: lack of foresight and teamwork. I don't want the world, I just want your half.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:32:00 - [124] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 19:36:38 That's not smaktastic I'm afraid. If you want to prove anything I stated in that post incorrectly then please do so. We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. The ships destroyed since last night were simple ganks. There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. It's very easy to simply state that I am smaking these days without actually reading what I wrote. It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing the other side to put theirs forward simply because we are BoB. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:36:00 - [125] By looking at the frequency of the posts in this topic seems other people are bored at work too! :D keep going ^.^ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:36:00 - [126] By looking at the frequency of the posts in this topic seems other people are bored at work too! :D keep going ^.^ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:14:00 - [127] Originally by: DB Preacher We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. while i do not believe that you have had no resistance since you arrived we have to remember in what manner you did arrive. g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. when g/iron decided it was time to return north patchday was here and i have read some hints about the nightmare that must have followed. i do not know what is going on with their logistics now, but one would think that they are getting it done. Originally by: DB Preacher There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. i do not know what is going on ingame now or the last couple of days. the reason i am here (i stated it in one of my first posts) is to make ppl aware of some of the methods you in bob leadership are using in forum warfare and by doing that make them inefficient and hopefully make them stop. Originally by: DB Preacher It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing thEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:14:00 - [128] Originally by: DB Preacher We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. while i do not believe that you have had no resistance since you arrived we have to remember in what manner you did arrive. g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. when g/iron decided it was time to return north patchday was here and i have read some hints about the nightmare that must have followed. i do not know what is going on with their logistics now, but one would think that they are getting it done. Originally by: DB Preacher There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. i do not know what is going on ingame now or the last couple of days. the reason i am here (i stated it in one of my first posts) is to make ppl aware of some of the methods you in bob leadership are using in forum warfare and by doing that make them inefficient and hopefully make them stop. Originally by: DB Preacher It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing the other side to put theirs forward simply because we are BoB. i have never demanded that mine is the only voice to be heard. i wouldnt dream of being able to stand against the well-oiled forum war-machine that is bob. keep fighting the good fight g/iron! do not fall for their cheap tricks.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:36:00 - [129] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 20:40:14 Right. So you don't know what's going on, you don't know what's been happening recently, you don't know what's actually been happening in the north but the rest of eve should take your word as gospel truth and that it is just me forum whoring and making stuff up. hmm. I've said this many, many times... if BoB lie on the forums then you can bet 5,000 people in eve will be there to tell everyone. I know it's hard for people to accept when we are stating facts and it's easier to state that we are simply "lying, flaming, smaking" etc when it's just because the truth hurts. I'm not speaking specifically in this case ofc but more for BoB's posting in general, personally I will always have a soft spot for IRON regardless of what people on the forums think. Except Anue, I don't believe I've smak'ed Iron or G in a very long time. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:42:00 - [130] meh... keep reading. you can do it dbp. yup, all the way to the end....... hi imran
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:53:00 - [131] Originally by: suicidal suzy meh... keep reading. you can do it dbp. yup, all the way to the end....... hi imran hihi! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:08:00 - [132] nice edit extending your post to three times it's original size there dbp.. im sorry if i hurt your feelings but i usually just dont like the way you post. lets leave it at that and stop the forum warfare now. thanks
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:42:00 - [133] Originally by: suicidal suzy g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. Still when G/IRON came into a region which was populated mostly industrialists (i.e. ASCN homelands) and scored a lot of kills that didn't stop them from claiming that they were some kind ub3r pvpers did it?
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:56:00 - [134] Originally by: Sochin Originally by: Darko1107 No, you talk a load of rubbish, without good leaders they are nothing, if you would actually open your eyes and stop contradicting yourself/alliance buddies you might be able to realise that. "IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight" "We have killed 77 iron bs and 2 dreads while weve been here and about 470 ships alothether bla bla" Yeh tottally adds up. I see your good at recognising different class ships from each other. Are you an idiot? They started out flying BS and Dreads, and NOW only fly T1 frigs (few inties and AFs mixed in as well). Think for a change before you post. Am i an idiot? Hmm, no dont think so. Are you? Well lets see. NOW they only fly t1 frigs, ok, so what am i looking at now, oh... an IRON bs kill in vfk 21:22. ANOTHER 1, 8S28, VENTURECORP 5.20, oh look and yesterday another 1. Infact, over the past 2 days, youve killed: 4 BS 4 Tech 1 Frigs 2 tech I cruisers 1 Hauler 1 Battlecruiser 2 Assault frigs 2 Intys Yet all they fly is tech 1 frigs now! YIKES! I think im better at reading your own killboard than u are! Who's the idiot now? Think before u post. (Please be advised: I do know "they all fly in t1 frigs" statement was an exageration and an attempt to spread propaganda that IRON either have no bs left, or have been ordered not to fly them.) Blacklight theres nothing I dont know! Im omnipotent..... or something...
xenodia	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:03:00 - [135] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 27/12/2005 11:09:01 IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P. Hey dont be too hard on IRON. I mean, they had a huge gate camp in VFK a couple of nights ago.I know.. I sat there watching them cloaked for a half hour or so at the gate to 2R-CRW. Now granted, they didnt succeed in doing much other than scaring the crap out of their own haulers with the lag at jump in, as anyone with half a brain simply made an end-run around the gate camp through KF-, but hey, at least they werent mining somewhere. I must say the hostilities between G/IRON and BoB have made things interesting in the north, since both sides try to kill me. Should be some interesting times ahead.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:13:00 - [136] Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian Originally by: suicidal suzy g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. Still when G/IRON came into a region which was populated mostly industrialists (i.e. ASCN homelands) and scored a lot of kills that didn't stop them from claiming that they were some kind ub3r pvpers did it? i fail to see how that has anything to do with this. attacking is easier and more fun than defending in the game atm. naturally you will get more kills when you can jump unsuspecting miners who are probably rich enough to not really care. if you can do it while the organised pvp-force of an alliance is based 50+ jumps away, you will get even more easy kills. again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. only the weak follow the strong
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:21:00 - [137] Originally by: suicidal suzy again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. Would you like a lesson in bridge building, so you can get over that river you're crying right now? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:07:00 - [138] Originally by: Darko1107 The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond , they are just unspeakably bad Originally by:** Ripp Tyde Thanx DAD for the recognition, lol It is not FC we are missing. ya know i lub ya d0rko, but perhaps if u were round ud see eh? For the longest time i could barely muster up a force of a descent size. The fittings well they were embarresing. The ships were again a laughing factor. no we didnt kill many bob during the time, but im proud of my lil goat farmers for ditchen thier <insert random farm tool> and going to die with me. My point is this, when i command we may be slaughtered due to various reasons why, but we are there to fight. my guys know that, and why they either love or hate me. But all respect me. patience and waiting 3 hrs for an engagement are not my forte'. Hence why i lead suicide squads. In between the usual pointless flames, those 2 quotes are IMHO the most relevant in this thread (provided you can decipher Ripp's gibberish). Since I left IRON I won't say who's right or wrong, or who's proving the other's point, but those quotes made me giggle
Lorth	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:24:00 - [139] well I've read this whole thing and have come up with a few simple truths. 1: Blacklight is a drunk. Not that theres a person in eve that doesn't know this already. But it makes my list look bigger so I'll include it. 2: BOB posts on the forums. According to the alts, this has some sort of relevence on thier ingame performance. The logic goes as follows; the more they post, the worse they are doing. The fact that the thread is about them has nothing to do with it apperantly. 3: Iron suck 4: BOB suck 5: G suck 6: 5 suck. Not sure if this has been said yet or not, so let me be the first to say it, one of the alts will get around to it eventually. 7: Lag sucks. At least there's somthing we can all agree on. 8: Lorth is uber. This can not be said enough. Good luck guys, hope you all have some fun, and some good fights.
Nifel	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:47:00 - [140] Originally by: suicidal suzy attacking is easier and more fun than defending in the game atm. I'd actually argue it's the other way around atm. Of course... it requires an active defense but at the end defending a well prepared area is easier than attacking it atm. Everyone is invited to attack Delve with a real force and see how you do ;). "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:31:00 - [141] u forgot point 9 in ur list lorth, the Rex is _ber (note the 2 points that double the normal uber effect)
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:43:00 - [142] Originally by: Sorja Originally by: Darko1107 The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond , they are just unspeakably bad Originally by:** Ripp Tyde Thanx DAD for the recognition, lol It is not FC we are missing. ya know i lub ya d0rko, but perhaps if u were round ud see eh? For the longest time i could barely muster up a force of a descent size. The fittings well they were embarresing. The ships were again a laughing factor. no we didnt kill many bob during the time, but im proud of my lil goat farmers for ditchen thier <insert random farm tool> and going to die with me. My point is this, when i command we may be slaughtered due to various reasons why, but we are there to fight. my guys know that, and why they either love or hate me. But all respect me. patience and waiting 3 hrs for an engagement are not my forte'. Hence why i lead suicide squads. In between the usual pointless flames, those 2 quotes are IMHO the most relevant in this thread (provided you can decipher Ripp's gibberish). Since I left IRON I won't say who's right or wrong, or who's proving the other's point, but those quotes made me giggle Sorja - while at many times we have been not on eachothers good sides, i respect you. While in iron you were a very capable FC. YES we have different styles. There are many reasons why we have lost a ton of ships in the last few weeks. Most everyone knows them. Majority of IRON pvpers down south. So gangs/ fleets were comprised of many ppl who never once flown in a large scale op. But how do ppl learn without the need to learn it. The forces I was able to muster up did me proud. Sure they may have lost thier ships and pods due to my "cowboy get my guns off attitude". but with out loss how can you appreciate gain? Change brings in young and new ppl. It also weeds out and introduces you to those with whom you do not need. As for the ones who have shown they have what it takes, I will enjoy flying with you for many months to come. As for how i feel? Look down upon us all you want. But it will be very silly of you to underestimate us! Ripp Tyde F.R.E.E.E. DingleBerry Bear snip Signature image too large. Please resize it to a maximum height of 120px - Teblin
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:45:00 - [143] LORTH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Josclyn Verreuil	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:55:00 - [144] I love all the people who think that BoB puts forth a concerted effort to troll the forums, as though they dedicate a group of players to do just that. People who will troll the forums will troll the forums regardless of their alliance affiliation. BoB has more trolls typically because they have a large base of high playtime/dedicated players, the same ones who normally troll the forums in any MMO. I highly doubt there is any real reason beyond this. ~Clan Verreuil
dreisenhoff	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:57:00 - [145] IMO Sorja was not a capablefleet commander at all. He was good at keeping his cool maybe - but he wasnt a very good commander tactically - alot of things he did wrong, countless times on TS id be listening to his ops and wondering "why the fu*k is he doing that" - his frenglish speaking didnt help. but respect to stepping up to the job - but he cant really criticise any FC really. alts ftw :) BTW nice post lorth, bob do post more on forums the worse they do :) Well done to Iron team in beating G-alliance in the pvp tournament :) good job
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:59:00 - [146] SORJA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Kryztal	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:17:00 - [147] Are we still talking about this ? Some of us werent able to participate in the battle so how about a rematch ? I mean we are here to fight and you win some and you lose some lets move one and have more good fights. <3 Bratzy
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:19:00 - [148] KRYZTAL FOR FIRST LADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:44:00 - [149] Originally by: Imran I might be wrong, but you seem to be bored at work Made in Portugal
Galaxion	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:47:00 - [150] Hang on a second. We lost... like 10 battleships? G lost... like 4 battleships? Really it's a small to medium-sized engagement. Does it warrant a 5-page thread, which i didnt bother to read because it probably rehashes the same thing over and over. People cant just let things rest eh? -----------------------------------------

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