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VladImpaler	Posted - 2005.12.27 08:42:00 - [1] Edited by: VladImpaler on 27/12/2005 08:42:10 It seems G and Iron finally made a move against BoB in JU, and BoB got the short end of the stick this time. From the BoB point of view, why did IRON need to bring in a G battleship fleet to fight their battles? From the IRON point of view, why did BoB take claim to JU, knowing that they would be facing both IRON and G when they finally returned from the south? Alts FTW
Amthrianius	Posted - 2005.12.27 08:56:00 - [2] ---------------
TWD	Posted - 2005.12.27 08:57:00 - [3] Tsk, I was starting to be worried that we had no serious opponents left. However, IRON is still, well, weak.
Deidranna	Posted - 2005.12.27 08:58:00 - [4] there are no bob in ju- g/iron has never been in the south bob is mining in fountain g is mining in cloud ring iron is mining in deklein deidranna ps. hi mom \o/ -=Proud member of the 18.7570452772=-
Ramireza	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:06:00 - [5] Can a mod lock this thread plz ?
Muthsera	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:07:00 - [6] Originally by: TWD However, IRON is still, well, weak. Oh the irony. ;) My thoughs
Babylon 2	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Amthrianius now c'mon, let's be fair... ascn and jericho fraction aren't helping bob that much were you offering bob your help?
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:19:00 - [8] ill state this lil known fact. IRON is G G is IRON, were it not for the language barrier we would be under the same alliance flag. And TWD i appreciate your honesty, yes we are weak nubblets who can not defend our selves out of a wet paper bag. lol dont forget as skillz says we dont fight either. we r nubtastic. but anyway, when ur in the area lemme know. ill def be ur huckleberry. ask KSU he can vouch for me. Ripp Tyde F.R.E.E.E. DingleBerry Bear snip Signature image too large. Please resize it to a maximum height of 120px - Teblin
Amthrianius	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Babylon 2 were you offering bob your help? BoB always have our FULL support, should they ever need it and know that. But the chances of them needing it are not very high (oh and the fireman sam to the rescue was more to hose down the flames ) ---------------
Babylon 2	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Amthrianius (oh and the fireman sam to the rescue was more to hose down the flames ) oh, my bad i thought the 3 firemen represented the five minus mcorp and shinra
Fuffel	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:40:00 - [11] I dont believe it, unless shrike can prove it with a chat-log - CE-O g
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:55:00 - [12] Iron didn't make a move, G did and the results were obvious. BoB have had it too easy for too long and I knew the first time we came up against G we would struggle. However, we got what we wanted and now we have the fun of some decent fights over xmas until we go home again. As for the fight itself, I wasn't there so don't know anything other than the result and the comments of my guys. The biggest dissapointment being the lag they felt upon jumping in. I was seriously hoping for lag free fleet battles but yet again I guess I'll have to be dissapointed. Please keep the smak clear and have some fun. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DeadDuck	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:05:00 - [13] Originally by: TWD Tsk, I was starting to be worried that we had no serious opponents left. However, IRON is still, well, weak. Yeah ... you are awesome and unbeatable ...
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Babylon 2 Originally by: Amthrianius (oh and the fireman sam to the rescue was more to hose down the flames ) oh, my bad i thought the 3 firemen represented the five minus mcorp and shinra aww what a cute little alt and gg G/BoB. It's unfortunate about the lag to be honest, 3 years on and they still can't even slightly reduce it :(
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:17:00 - [15] The lag is worse now that it ever was before RMR. CCP took 1 step forward and two steps back. Anyway, Hi mom! -------------
Trefnis	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:23:00 - [16] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar It's unfortunate about the lag to be honest, 3 years on and they still can't even slightly reduce it :( I think it is getting worse and worse with each (content)patch.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:27:00 - [17] Hehe, yes RMR has had many hiccups already, and it is quite obvious when so many different people have the same opinion on one issue that is lag. I just think CCP's idea of having everyone on 1 shard is too much to ask for at this moment, the ISP/Servers/whatever seem to be simply unable to cope with the load. But that said, we will continue to soldier on, lag or no lag win or lose.... -
Vince Draken	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Trefnis Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar It's unfortunate about the lag to be honest, 3 years on and they still can't even slightly reduce it :( I think it is getting worse and worse with each (content)patch. I think it is more due to the fact there are now roughly 2X the numbers of a year ago. All of this is still on the same equipment... The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Darko1107 on 27/12/2005 11:08:03 Thankgod sum1 in the north stepped up, lead a fleet to win, and actually won. To many of these FC's that get "fun fights" while there hole fleet ends up dead. BoB got thier arses handed to them in that fight, but its not asif they havent killed 10x + more in the past 2 weeks, G/IRON still have alot of catching up to do, G seem to be starting to pulling it back, IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P.
Caybn E'vangel	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:21:00 - [20] As the first BS to crash on jump in, and die with 25 hostiles on the mail I cannot honestly say i had "fun". However I was reminded of why when people ask, I tell them G is the only alliance that can stand up to us. A lesser force would not have been able to capitalise on the situation as effectivly as theirs did this evening. A few hours later I was fitting my new Tempest with 1400 IIs I looted from a G Tempest can a few weeks earlier. Good enemies are hard to find, thanks G. I don't want the world, I just want your half.
Rytir	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 27/12/2005 11:09:01 Thankgod sum1 in the north stepped up, lead a fleet to win, and actually won. To many of these FC's that get "fun fights" while there whole fleet ends up dead. BoB got thier arses handed to them in that fight, but its not asif they havent killed 10x + more in the past 2 weeks, G/IRON still have alot of catching up to do, G seem to be starting to pull it back, IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P. s or d? Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance
Dracorimus	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:52:00 - [22] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 27/12/2005 11:09:01 Thankgod sum1 in the north stepped up, lead a fleet to win, and actually won. To many of these FC's that get "fun fights" while there whole fleet ends up dead. BoB got thier arses handed to them in that fight, but its not asif they havent killed 10x + more in the past 2 weeks, G/IRON still have alot of catching up to do, G seem to be starting to pull it back, IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P. Yep, glad someone will fight now But not fun last night, at all, I locked 1 BS, then proceeded to just watch as nothing happened, then im a pod and clicking warp like a crazed loony - 8 mins later I warped yay -
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:56:00 - [23] Originally by: DB Preacher I was seriously hoping for lag free fleet battles but yet again I guess I'll have to be dissapointed. now now dbp we all know thats being just a little bit naieve :S Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
Zoea	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Amthrianius LOL -=-=-=-==-=--=-=-=--=-=--==-=--¼=-==--=-=-=--==-=--=-=-=-=-=-==-=-
DjDangle	Posted - 2005.12.27 12:00:00 - [25] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: TWD Tsk, I was starting to be worried that we had no serious opponents left. However, IRON is still, well, weak. Yeah ... you are awesome and unbeatable ... Yeah, so are you ------------ "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
Nifel	Posted - 2005.12.27 12:06:00 - [26] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: DB Preacher I was seriously hoping for lag free fleet battles but yet again I guess I'll have to be dissapointed. now now dbp we all know thats being just a little bit naieve :S Most of us actually loaded up which was nice. Then everyone started lagging with 15-30 seconds module lag which was ftl. "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Valerio Garati	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:26:00 - [27] lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Darko1107 Thankgod sum1 in the north stepped up, lead a fleet to win, and actually won. To many of these FC's that get "fun fights" while there whole fleet ends up dead. BoB got thier arses handed to them in that fight, but its not asif they havent killed 10x + more in the past 2 weeks, G/IRON still have alot of catching up to do, G seem to be starting to pull it back, IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P. of course, if their old primary fleet commander rejoined them... ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP
The Hooch	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:42:00 - [29] Quote: However, we got what we wanted and now we have the fun of some decent fights over xmas until we go home again. Perhaps they will follow you there, then you can have more fun. Cheers Hooch, Military and Political Guru, Peacenik, Flame Baiter, BoB Watcher, BoB Lover, BoB Hater, BoB Fanboi, *****um, Troll, Forum Warrior, Mister Star Trek, Captain Obvious, Carebear...
Crean NaVar	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve ASCN alts. XZH-4X !
Valerio Garati	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:54:00 - [31] Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 13:40:10 Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve hi ascn alt still to scared to use your mains? just like ingame? hide in stations when your fleetcommanders tried to gather a fleet against g? oh, we didnt wait for bob to jump in... the ebil bobs followed us :( ;) deidranna atleast ascn commander got a fleet together. it took mass mailing to get 30 people together from g to put up a fight 3 days from that point. and thats why you are great eve superpower. laughable
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.27 14:04:00 - [32] Originally by: The Hooch Quote: However, we got what we wanted and now we have the fun of some decent fights over xmas until we go home again. Perhaps they will follow you there, then you can have more fun. Yes, hopefully they won't run away from our unarmed small pos, 2 battleships and one interceptor. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.12.27 14:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Valerio Garati Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 13:40:10 Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve hi ascn alt still to scared to use your mains? just like ingame? hide in stations when your fleetcommanders tried to gather a fleet against g? oh, we didnt wait for bob to jump in... the ebil bobs followed us :( ;) deidranna atleast ascn commander got a fleet together. it took mass mailing to get 30 people together from g to put up a fight 3 days from that point. and thats why you are great eve superpower. laughable Oh the bitterness, hate and pseudo-propaganda, how i love it On topic: i was not in the battle, but listening on TS and lag seemed wo be a big issue for us also. when will it ever get better? -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Calisto Lockhart	Posted - 2005.12.27 14:42:00 - [34] lol yes, i have been so bored over christmas. no war updates or flames to read. glad things are back to normal Originally by: SengH TomB would probably use it as an excuse to develop some ridiculously overpowered weapon for the Jove mothership, then Oveur would ride it into the middle of the borg fleet and set it off
Dracorimus	Posted - 2005.12.27 14:50:00 - [35] Well lets hope these hotfixes and stuff do actually FIX stuff.... Cos that lag we got was horrendous, I'm sure some of G got it too - Shrike > BALLS DROPPED IN BELT AvanCade > lol Shrike > that didnt sound good.
magickangaroo	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. i doubt this is a g alt post tbh, more likely to be one of the numours bob fanbois trying to fan flames. from there point of view im sure they think G and bob hate each other. really we just love the fights ;) in fairness to the G fleet yes we did jump in, but prior to hat they had been in ju for a good 20-30 mins?? buggers wouldnt sit still thou :D Originally by: Ripp Tyde ill state this lil known fact. IRON is G G is IRON, were it not for the language barrier we would be under the same alliance flag. sure imp felt the same :) however theyre asshats for the most part. although it was nice seeing that those guys in vfk arent all afk at the station. ;) jumpin thru 30 ceptors and haf in a merlin to go get my megathron was fun ! all in all, i hope this is the start of the g iron retake of the area, just in time for new year as well! i was about ready to resign myself to npcing in fountain over the new year.
ponieus	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Valerio Garati Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 13:40:10 Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve hi ascn alt still to scared to use your mains? just like ingame? hide in stations when your fleetcommanders tried to gather a fleet against g? oh, we didnt wait for bob to jump in... the ebil bobs followed us :( ;) deidranna atleast ascn commander got a fleet together. it took mass mailing to get 30 people together from g to put up a fight 3 days from that point. and thats why you are great eve superpower. laughable Oh the bitterness, hate and pseudo-propaganda, how i love it On topic: i was not in the battle, but listening on TS and lag seemed wo be a big issue for us also. when will it ever get better? yeah from my side of loading into a pod the lag on a session change sucked. but the second the battle was over the lag was gone. IT was a fun fight. but the lag was the winner agian now matter how many losses or kills each side has. The battle G and BOB want probally wont ever happen unless we get used to fighting with 4 to 5 mintue activation times on modules.. No worries we see G is back in the north and now some real fun can begin. see ya boys in space.

Laurelin1420	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:08:00 - [38] Stay on topic peeps....thread cleaned :) forum rules \| [email protected]

magickangaroo	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:13:00 - [39] OHH OHHH i almost forgot. some kidnly G guy was firing snowballs at me ;)
Wizie	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:15:00 - [40] Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight.
Alexison	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:20:00 - [41] Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. But I like to jump in with guns blazing.
TWD	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. That differs per fleet commander. Who cares really, we know the risks when jumping.. this talk about lag etc is getting old, its part of the game.
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:28:00 - [43] Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. Did anybody else notice that Cosmic fusion members seem to have some strange crystal ball that give the inside into all G fights? Considering that Cosmic Fusion hardly ever fought G I find you comments really funny. I wonder whose alt you are. And I guess all those fights that I've frapsed on my harddrive being outnumbered, warping in, jumping in and so never happened.
Kleric	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Acwron Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. Did anybody else notice that Cosmic fusion members seem to have some strange crystal ball that give the inside into all G fights? Considering that Cosmic Fusion hardly ever fought G I find you comments really funny. I wonder whose alt you are. And I guess all those fights that I've frapsed on my harddrive being outnumbered, warping in, jumping in and so never happened. Nop, all those fraps are just in your imagination... (joking!!)
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:34:00 - [45] Originally by: Acwron Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. Did anybody else notice that Cosmic fusion members seem to have some strange crystal ball that give the inside into all G fights? Considering that Cosmic Fusion hardly ever fought G I find you comments really funny. I wonder whose alt you are. And I guess all those fights that I've frapsed on my harddrive being outnumbered, warping in, jumping in and so never happened. maybe cuz G havnt changed fleet tactics for um the last year ? Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:36:00 - [46] It's swings and roundabouts when it comes to lag and who jumps in etc. I do remember at one time you got lagged to hell when someone jumped into YOU not the otherway around. End of the day it sucks and its this games ONLY flaw.
Wizie	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:36:00 - [47] Originally by: Acwron Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. Did anybody else notice that Cosmic fusion members seem to have some strange crystal ball that give the inside into all G fights? Considering that Cosmic Fusion hardly ever fought G I find you comments really funny. I wonder whose alt you are. And I guess all those fights that I've frapsed on my harddrive being outnumbered, warping in, jumping in and so never happened. I don't know what you mean by Cosmic fusion members, since I'm the only Cosmic fusion member here posting. I'm nobodys alt, I have had 4 chars in game.. Hobblin I, Stormfront, Hobbsalong, and Wizie. Now I only have Wizie. I have engaged G with the [5] on several occassions, and out of the many fleet engagements I was in, G jumped in once and lost 4 ships to our 1. And the rest of the time we jumped in. And admitedly lost more ships on the ones we jumped in. I just think when engaging a force that refuses to give up the "tactical advantage" that the Games hardware (or lack of it) provides, it is best to NOT force a fight. Avoid the jump in. Force the fight on even grounds. Even if it means having to wait/bore/play CS or something.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:46:00 - [48] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. That differs per fleet commander. Who cares really, we know the risks when jumping.. this talk about lag etc is getting old, its part of the game. qft. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:07:00 - [49] "BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result." Can't help it, when dbp gets so forceful and demanding all thinking goes out of window and i can never say no... ..;
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Acwron I wonder whose alt you are. Oh the irony - an ebayed char talking about alts.. ^^ King Liu is RIGHT!!
CapCrunnnch	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:24:00 - [51] Again this just goes to show that BOB are an alliance that runs mostly on Sirmolles bravado and chestbeating. They are neither uber nor unbeatable, G has proven that. From the BOB replies in this thread its clear to see theres no brash arrogant replies, all I see is humble pie. G has proven once again why they are the most powerful faction in EVE 0.0. I dont think they will be content with just the battle of JU. If I were in bob i'd start thinking about the defense of fountain. Originally by: TWD Tsk, I was starting to be worried that we had no serious opponents left. However, IRON is still, well, weak. I believe Iron have shaken the crok-sucking carebear image they once had as NSA and COD. Iron is a much different alliance than its predesesors, they actually fight. Originally by: Amthrianius [ BoB always have our FULL support, should they ever need it and know that. But the chances of them needing it are not very high The day BOB asks for help will be the same day the forums explode because of 1000 threads entitled "LOL". I have my polaroid rdy just in case. But im pretty sure a certain persons ego will not let it come to that no matter how many battles G easily win. Good luck all and enjoy your fights.
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:36:00 - [52] Edited by: Acwron on 27/12/2005 16:38:14 Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: Acwron I wonder whose alt you are. Oh the irony - an ebayed char talking about alts.. ^^ I don't think ebay is taking ISK now. And yes of course Acwron is not the only char I own but the point wasn't that Wizie is an alt but whose it is because he feels it's need to beat an mantra since a couple of months. And this stupid thread should be locked anyway.
Daxes	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:39:00 - [53] why cant ppl just have good fights instead of discussing here who has the bigger e-*enis. G and BoB know what really happened and is happening so topics like this which always favour just one side are totaly useless. Btw any alt posting "for" G/Iron should think about the reason why G prefers to stay out of this forum.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:42:00 - [54] Originally by: CapCrunnnch Again this just goes to show that BOB are an alliance that runs mostly on Sirmolles bravado and chestbeating. They are neither uber nor unbeatable, G has proven that. Nobody ever said BoB has never lost a fight. Losing a war on the other hand... Quote: G has proven once again why they are the most powerful faction in EVE 0.0. I dont think they will be content with just the battle of JU. If I were in bob i'd start thinking about the defense of fountain. G has proven they don't have the numbers to launch a large campain in another region while still keeping their own ones safe. Quote: I believe Iron have shaken the crok-sucking carebear image they once had as NSA and COD. Iron is a much different alliance than its predesesors, they actually fight. Remind me again what the special feature of their (former) outpost is? ------------- Please make Minmatar overpowered, CCP
Lowa	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:51:00 - [55] Originally by: TWD this talk about lag etc is getting old, its part of the game. True, but by know it shouldnt really be a part of it dont you agree? Cheers, LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Deidranna	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:52:00 - [56] hello fellow forum reader, no need to read this thread any further, the alts stroke again and its worthless now. dont waste your time on this. there a many better threads deidranna -=Proud member of the 18.7570452772=-
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:56:00 - [57] Originally by: CapCrunnnch Again this just goes to show that BOB are an alliance that runs mostly on Sirmolles bravado and chestbeating. They are neither uber nor unbeatable, G has proven that. We've never claimed to be invincible, nor have [G], on the whole I think we're still ahead of [G] in the old k/d ratio we always get good fights with our most respected rivals (at least, they're my most respected, regardless of inter-alliance politics). Originally by: CapCrunnnch From the BOB replies in this thread its clear to see theres no brash arrogant replies, all I see is humble pie. G has proven once again why they are the most powerful faction in EVE 0.0. I dont think they will be content with just the battle of JU. If I were in bob i'd start thinking about the defense of fountain. blah blah blah, defending fountain can be done if required, as can delve, as can period basis, as can anywhere else we feel the need to be - [G] may very well be able to defend their regions, we've not pushed the issue, we have shown that IRON are incapable of doing so, however, so perhaps a little bit more analysis and a little less "omg omg bob lost ONE battle, THE SKY IS FALLING" would give your post a little bit more credibility? Originally by: CapCrunnnch Originally by: TWD Tsk, I was starting to be worried that we had no serious opponents left. However, IRON is still, well, weak. I believe Iron have shaken the crok-sucking carebear image they once had as NSA and COD. Iron is a much different alliance than its predesesors, they actually fight. They do? Their ship size fleets have got smaller and smaller - they started with dreads, we killed those, they moved to bs, we killed those, now we're on t1 cruiser and friggy gangs when [g] aren't around. Hate to tell you this, but if they're afraid of bringing out their battleships in THIER OWN SPACE, that's more indicative of who is controlling what than any killboard. Originally by: CapCrunnnch Originally by: Amthrianius [ BoB always have our FULL support, should they ever need it and know that. But the chances of them needing it are not very high The day BOB asks for help will be the same day the forums explode because of 1000 threads entitled "LOL". I have my polaroid rdy just in case. But im pretty sure a certain persons ego will not let it come to that no matter how many battles G easily win. "Easily"? lmao. You know, if every time we came to the forums and posted how we "easily" beat a fleet that outnumbered us and that we jumped in on we'd get nothing but flamed for it. There is NO such thing as an "easy" victory - [G] earnt this mornings victory through superior will, as TWD says we all suffer from lag, this time [G] had it to their advantage - next time we will - will we claim it as the ned of [G]? That it just proves that we the most powerful faction in EVE? Hell no, it just proves we won that battle. The sooner people such as your misguided self realise that, the less idiotic you will look with posts such as this. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.27 17:10:00 - [58] We knew we were outnumbered We knew that [G] was in the other side waiting We knew we were problably loosing this battle but thats where the fun is...fighting against the odds. Apart from lag, we had fun. Hope [G] had too. Proops for them on bringing into us, proops for us to jump in on them. Lets roll and have some more fun.... Made in Portugal
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2005.12.27 18:06:00 - [59] See, this Ordep fella has been in Evolution approximately 1/30th of the time that I have, but he appears to have worked things out fast. Lets hope we get some more scraps. .... Alts : The forum equivalent of a WCS ?
Kustra FIRE	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 13:40:10 Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve hi ascn alt still to scared to use your mains? just like ingame? hide in stations when your fleetcommanders tried to gather a fleet against g? oh, we didnt wait for bob to jump in... the ebil bobs followed us :( ;) deidranna YOU still got defeated by ASCN
Drunkeh	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:25:00 - [61] Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. /signed. Any 5 member who was part of the "OMG G has 160 in local nextdoor, we have 70, maybe they will jump in" of the northern fights knows this is all true.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:32:00 - [62] Wasn't there, but heard the guys had lag issues. I'd expect losses to be fairly even against [G], they're damn good pilots but all things being equal so are our chaps ;-).
Sochin	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:34:00 - [63] It was a good fight with no smack whatsoever (bar a single line from some noobcorp alt). We did lose the battle, and we are not ashamed to admit it. We've been beaten before by G, and we will probably lose many more fights to them before the servers go offline for final time. There is a reason they are the only enemy of ours that we respect. The fight itself occured in 209, next door to JU. G had jumped out of JU, and we jumped in to pursue them and engaged on the JU gate in 209 at point blank range. The lag was bad but not horrible, I did have an extremely difficult time manuvering in my Deimos due to module lag with my mwd. Great fight G, please come back again. Nemo me impune lacessit
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:35:00 - [64] Originally by: Kustra FIRE Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 13:40:10 Originally by: Valerio Garati lol look at g alt gloating. only way g wins battle by letting people jump in on them. ASCN learned that and from that point it was down hill for g. engage on same field and g fleet crumble. thats why they took the long trip home. nice coalition of bob 5 ascn sa and the only g spot left will be outside of eve hi ascn alt still to scared to use your mains? just like ingame? hide in stations when your fleetcommanders tried to gather a fleet against g? oh, we didnt wait for bob to jump in... the ebil bobs followed us :( ;) deidranna YOU still got defeated by ASCN on the industrial side, yes. on the pvp side, erm no -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:37:00 - [65] Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. /signed. Any 5 member who was part of the "OMG G has 160 in local nextdoor, we have 70, maybe they will jump in" of the northern fights knows this is all true. drunken, we have changed. believe it or not, but its true -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Kurenin	Posted - 2005.12.27 19:51:00 - [66] If everyone's alt posted every time someone won a fight against someone else, this forum wouldn't be worth reading... Oh wait. Sorry.
Echo147	Posted - 2005.12.27 20:19:00 - [67] Originally by: Dianabolic They do? Their ship size fleets have got smaller and smaller - they started with dreads, we killed those, they moved to bs, we killed those, now we're on t1 cruiser and friggy gangs when [g] aren't around. Hate to tell you this, but if they're afraid of bringing out their battleships in THIER OWN SPACE, that's more indicative of who is controlling what than any killboard. Shame on BoB for being sober enough to field fleets over the past few days
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2005.12.27 20:30:00 - [68] You do know we field bigger fleets when drunk right ? .... Alts : The forum equivalent of a WCS ?
Josclyn Verreuil	Posted - 2005.12.27 20:54:00 - [69] Hope everyone up north is having fun :) I also hope the ASCN alts (and all the other alts for that matter) stay out of this. Seriously guys grow some balls. ~Clan Verreuil
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.27 21:31:00 - [70] Originally by: Echo147 Originally by: Dianabolic They do? Their ship size fleets have got smaller and smaller - they started with dreads, we killed those, they moved to bs, we killed those, now we're on t1 cruiser and friggy gangs when [g] aren't around. Hate to tell you this, but if they're afraid of bringing out their battleships in THIER OWN SPACE, that's more indicative of who is controlling what than any killboard. Shame on BoB for being sober enough to field fleets over the past few days You've had more than enough to face us out of vfk, echo, so don't be pulling the "numbers" card with us, thanks. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Deidranna	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:05:00 - [71] Edited by: Deidranna on 27/12/2005 22:05:59 anger leads to hate and hate is bad so i deciced to edit this post, for the sake of mankind -=Proud member of the 18.7570452772=-
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:07:00 - [72] Originally by: KIAEddZ Irrelvant of altastic smacktalk, would be nice to know the numbers, no death mails on bob killboard, cant find a g killboard. Like me, some people are simply curious. ?? all the losses from this morning's fight are on our board. Eve Blacklight Style
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:07:00 - [73] Irrelvant of altastic smacktalk, would be nice to know the numbers, no death mails on bob killboard, cant find a g killboard. Like me, some people are simply curious. CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:11:00 - [74] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: KIAEddZ Irrelvant of altastic smacktalk, would be nice to know the numbers, no death mails on bob killboard, cant find a g killboard. Like me, some people are simply curious. ?? all the losses from this morning's fight are on our board. YES! Quite accurate! Lets qoute it BoB - 11 BS Losses and 5 Hacs G/IRON - 4 Bs Losses /runs away.
Deidranna	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:12:00 - [75] Originally by: KIAEddZ Irrelvant of altastic smacktalk, would be nice to know the numbers, no death mails on bob killboard, cant find a g killboard. Like me, some people are simply curious. g public killboard is still under development :( d -=Proud member of the 18.7570452772=-
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:12:00 - [76] My apologies, struggling with your complicated killboard ;) (translated as being a nub) Appreciated BL. CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:42:00 - [77] Edited by: Imran on 27/12/2005 22:43:23 iron sux. edit dont blacklight and kidaeddz look related? EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
TWD	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:45:00 - [78] At least we killed another dread today ;[
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:47:00 - [79] Edited by: Rhodry Amarrian on 27/12/2005 22:48:13 So just to summarise. One team of players jumped in on a slightly larger team of players, suffered some lag and lost some more ships than they managed to destroy? Not quite sure how this earth shattering event has managed to run to three pages but there we go. I do not see this war running for very long tbh. There doesnt seem to be a lot of hate between G and BOB and there is nothing really in it for BoB other than to get a few fights, but it soon gets boring especially when you move from roaming squads into blob warfare For G they want BoB out of their space as they spent a fortune down South and although they have plenty of very rich players not everyone is rich and people want to make isk so as to prepare for carriers, buy new skills, enjoy the new spawns etc for a while before the next campaign. I therefore confidently expect to see this end with a "let's shake hands for some good fights, much respected enemy, etc etc" type of announcement in a week or two.
Drunkeh	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:57:00 - [80] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. /signed. Any 5 member who was part of the "OMG G has 160 in local nextdoor, we have 70, maybe they will jump in" of the northern fights knows this is all true. drunken, we have changed. believe it or not, but its true Good to hear. It wasn't meant as a flame at all woody, the fights where we jumped in and there wasn't much lag were great fun, and G are certainly excellent PVPers. I lost like 10 claws there. Those were the good old target painter bug days where I could 1 volley inties... sigh
Wizie	Posted - 2005.12.27 23:04:00 - [81] Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. /signed. Any 5 member who was part of the "OMG G has 160 in local nextdoor, we have 70, maybe they will jump in" of the northern fights knows this is all true. drunken, we have changed. believe it or not, but its true Good to hear. It wasn't meant as a flame at all woody, the fights where we jumped in and there wasn't much lag were great fun, and G are certainly excellent PVPers. I lost like 10 claws there. Those were the good old target painter bug days where I could 1 volley inties... sigh STFU Drunk you noob (literaly, now that you have newb chars).. and come play with me.
SaorAlba	Posted - 2005.12.27 23:36:00 - [82] Edited by: SaorAlba on 27/12/2005 23:36:54 Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian Edited by: Rhodry Amarrian on 27/12/2005 22:48:13 For G they want BoB out of their space as they spent a fortune down South and although they have plenty of very rich players not everyone is rich and people want to make isk so as to prepare for carriers, buy new skills, enjoy the new spawns etc for a while before the next campaign. End of quote. -G- is based on socialism. If a pilot needs a schip or a skill, he will recieve it. All we do, we do for the good of -G-. Freelancers have no place in -G-. Loose guns have no place in -G-. We focus on working together in every exspect of the game. -G- did loose money in the South. Therefore we gained invaluable gaming experience taking our gaming to a next and higher level. You see, in -G- the focus is not to accumulate money. We want to play our favourite game @ the max. This involves taking over places, deploying dreads, carriers, and later on titans.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.27 23:43:00 - [83] Originally by: SaorAlba -G- is based on socialism. If a pilot needs a schip or a skill, he will recieve it. All we do, we do for the good of -G-. Freelancers have no place in -G-. Loose guns have no place in -G-. We focus on working together in every exspect of the game. -G- did loose money in the South. Therefore we gained invaluable gaming experience taking our gaming to a next and higher level. You see, in -G- the focus is not to accumulate money. We want to play our favourite game @ the max. This involves taking over places, deploying dreads, carriers, and later on titans. And this is why our battles are so epic - the mentality is the same, we don't care whether we win or lose, just that we play to the limits of our abilities. As SaorAlba will probably agree, sometimes you can have more fun losing, than you can winning. It isn't as enjoyable, though ;) Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
magickangaroo	Posted - 2005.12.27 23:52:00 - [84] Edited by: magickangaroo on 27/12/2005 23:54:20 Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian I do not see this war running for very long tbh. There doesnt seem to be a lot of hate between G and BOB and there is nothing really in it for BoB other than to get a few fights, but it soon gets boring especially when you move from roaming squads into blob warfare For G they want BoB out of their space as they spent a fortune down South and although they have plenty of very rich players not everyone is rich and people want to make isk so as to prepare for carriers, buy new skills, enjoy the new spawns etc for a while before the next campaign. I therefore confidently expect to see this end with a "let's shake hands for some good fights, much respected enemy, etc etc" type of announcement in a week or two. couple of things on this, first off its not a war, its a roadtrip. we havent really tried to move in on G space at all, and we only sorta captured that outpost thingy by accident tbh. thought it may make iron come play. we wanted some awsum fleet fights lots of targets, not so many ganks when we started our festive roadtrip. till this flight ive only seen the odd gank. u are correct there is no hatred or anger between bob for the most part. this stems from the top of our alliance/corps and filters down to lonly peons like myself. i really would love it if g ad bob had a gigantic long term slug fest, a la curse vs stain. i dont belive that G have the sheer numbers to do it atm, but they got the skill, and there the only guys with the balls were currently hostile toward. i hope g dont take this the wrong way but id hate to be napped with them, if that happened the only good fight left in the game may come from the 5 but i dont think thats likely to happen any time soon lol :) as for moving out of G space, im not 100% sure but i dont belive were operating heavily in the area right now. more "irons" space, and by operating i mean mining wiht that huge lump of metal we captured. im glad G showed up, heres hope theyll do it again b4 the new year ;) thats why i confidently expect that anouncment not to appear, well at least hope! :)
The Clash	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:00:00 - [85] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: SaorAlba -G- is based on socialism. If a pilot needs a schip or a skill, he will recieve it. All we do, we do for the good of -G-. Freelancers have no place in -G-. Loose guns have no place in -G-. We focus on working together in every exspect of the game. -G- did loose money in the South. Therefore we gained invaluable gaming experience taking our gaming to a next and higher level. You see, in -G- the focus is not to accumulate money. We want to play our favourite game @ the max. This involves taking over places, deploying dreads, carriers, and later on titans. And this is why our battles are so epic - the mentality is the same, we don't care whether we win or lose, just that we play to the limits of our abilities. As SaorAlba will probably agree, sometimes you can have more fun losing, than you can winning. It isn't as enjoyable, though ;) yeh unfortuanly boB sees it as a win ;) sometimes y loose sometimes ya win , just have to learn to face it when the alliance declare : game for fun ;) _________________ You can suck my battleship.
Drunkeh	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:02:00 - [86] Edited by: Drunkeh on 28/12/2005 01:02:37 Originally by: Wizie Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Drunkeh Originally by: Wizie Stop jumping into G, and you will never lose. Ofcourse, it also means you will not get a fight. G are professional, though most likely the biggest bores in Eve to fight. BOB/[5] always have a tendency to jump the gun and go balls out jumping into fights. It doesn't work, this is Eve for God's sake. You know the end result. If G jumped in they would be lagged too.. In such a scenario, avoid the fight. /signed. Any 5 member who was part of the "OMG G has 160 in local nextdoor, we have 70, maybe they will jump in" of the northern fights knows this is all true. drunken, we have changed. believe it or not, but its true Good to hear. It wasn't meant as a flame at all woody, the fights where we jumped in and there wasn't much lag were great fun, and G are certainly excellent PVPers. I lost like 10 claws there. Those were the good old target painter bug days where I could 1 volley inties... sigh STFU Drunk you noob (literaly, now that you have newb chars).. and come play with me. why dont you go sell another char u nub :P
Cowboy Ramrott	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:08:00 - [87] to all the ASCN whiners , who still believe a fleet can not win if theyre jumping into another fleet , here is the evidence that IT IS possible SA Invasion And Iron Fleet and some G pilots who were awake jumped into a 120 man SA Bubble Camp. Laag doesnt kill u all the time. sometimes its ur incapacity (ASCN) , panic and maybe no coordination
The Clash	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:08:00 - [88] yeh 5 is all that great Still remember fighting ATUK ceptors with dual wmd and multiple wcs at least when i went to CA i had fun flying among Shinra etc , never recieved isk back tho :p but nonetheless , good fun and no feckin bs just fighting and killing stuff , die , return kill \o/ _________________ You can suck my battleship.
The Clash	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:13:00 - [89] Edited by: The Clash on 28/12/2005 01:13:45 tell daddys to add me on msn [email protected] lost previous account due euhm safety reasons :p _________________ You can suck my battleship.
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:41:00 - [90] Originally by: The Clash yeh 5 is all that great Still remember fighting ATUK ceptors with dual wmd and multiple wcs at least when i went to CA i had fun flying among Shinra etc , never recieved isk back tho :p but nonetheless , good fun and no feckin bs just fighting and killing stuff , die , return kill \o/ Must suck to be you then
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2005.12.28 01:50:00 - [91] Originally by: Cowboy Ramrott to all the ASCN whiners , who still believe a fleet can not win if theyre jumping into another fleet , here is the evidence that IT IS possible And sometimes you are in a pod, or at your clone station when you load into the system. I understand the point you are making, and BoB has never been scared so much of jumping into a superior force, but it's to bad it's a dice roll on being able to fight. I bet we can all at least agree that it would be far more fun for all involved if, 3 years later, CCP would sort fleet combat mechanics out... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Echo147	Posted - 2005.12.28 03:06:00 - [92] Originally by: Dianabolic You've had more than enough to face us out of vfk, echo, so don't be pulling the "numbers" card with us, thanks. WTS: Sense of humour - 100 isk.
Darwin	Posted - 2005.12.28 04:15:00 - [93] Originally by: VladImpaler Edited by: VladImpaler on 27/12/2005 08:42:10 It seems G and Iron finally made a move against BoB in JU, and BoB got the short end of the stick this time. From the BoB point of view, why did IRON need to bring in a G battleship fleet to fight their battles? From the IRON point of view, why did BoB take claim to JU, knowing that they would be facing both IRON and G when they finally returned from the south? Alts FTW I wish we had alts in RL.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.12.28 04:37:00 - [94] Originally by: Echo147 Originally by: Dianabolic You've had more than enough to face us out of vfk, echo, so don't be pulling the "numbers" card with us, thanks. WTS: Sense of humour - 100 isk. WTS pair of brass balls Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Reprisa	Posted - 2005.12.28 04:52:00 - [95] Erm. Well...im seeing alot of BoB smack-talk on this thread. im non but a humble miner in a humble little corp..butIRON, you guys need to stand up for yourselves lol. as far as i can take it...BoB went to deklein and were virtually unopposed...Iron was in the south..so they couldnt oppose them. G was the first back from the south..so they crushed BoB. Iron..if you guys wont stick up for yourselves on the forums...you guys should at least do it in game and get some BoB killmails :) ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Galavet	Posted - 2005.12.28 05:19:00 - [96] Originally by: Reprisa G was the first back from the south..so they crushed BoB. It was one fight, where we jumped in mind you, far from a "crushing". This trip was more of an Ego check for Iron delivered by your friends in BoB more than anything else. If the outpost had any sort of defense network setup we wouldnt have invested the manhours in taking it. It was just sitting there, with like one small tower claiming the system for them. So we figured it would get the blood flowing in Iron and we would get an epic fight if we took it, sadly we were mistaken. I will take a few scraps with G in the place of Iron any day of the week tho. You will know a BoB invasion when it happens, this is a boring roadtrip only and Iron space is our choice of vacation spots.
Apache	Posted - 2005.12.28 05:22:00 - [97] Originally by: Reprisa Erm. Well...im seeing alot of BoB smack-talk on this thread. im non but a humble miner in a humble little corp..butIRON, you guys need to stand up for yourselves lol. as far as i can take it...BoB went to deklein and were virtually unopposed...Iron was in the south..so they couldnt oppose them. G was the first back from the south..so they crushed BoB. Iron..if you guys wont stick up for yourselves on the forums...you guys should at least do it in game and get some BoB killmails :) Actually IRON got up here first and have been fighting us every day. Considering that since our roadtrip started, we've killed 475 IRON ships, including 77 BS and 2 dreads, I'd say they have definitely been around a lot more than G. To say we've been unopposed up here would be stretching it a little I think.
Reprisa	Posted - 2005.12.28 05:30:00 - [98] Ego check..hmm...well...it is kinda convenient that when ASCN was getting its butt handed to them by G and IRON (no offense ASCN) it was quite convenient that a good friend of ASCN decided to "scout" IRON space. Lets see what happens in the next few weeks. Methinks Iron will drive BoB out again. ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Caybn E'vangel	Posted - 2005.12.28 05:58:00 - [99] Edited by: Caybn E''vangel on 28/12/2005 06:03:57 The bottom line is Iron's big brother came home, and there are tech II large guns in their cans again =D I don't want the world, I just want your half.
Necronom	Posted - 2005.12.28 08:43:00 - [100] Few things on the this topic, first off im on vacation in sunny arizona so im not 100% clear on wuts going on in game, but my take on G/IRON: BoB and myself hold nothing but respect for G, they have a group smaller than most of the space claiming alliances in 0.0, but can hold their space and launch attacks with more precision and result than most of 0.0 alliances (excluding BoB of course :p ). Im just glad we finally have an enemy with the balls 2 fight us head 2 head and head. To the poster of this thread im sure your just an IRON alt trying to tute his horn that ur big brothers came home and u finally won a fight. With all but a few exceptions IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight. Once again another alliance has proven that without G they are nothing. I look forward to fights with G when i get back, ps. do we still have the outpost? i cant login. Oh and have skilz's balls finally dropped? :p
Rytir	Posted - 2005.12.28 10:06:00 - [101] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Echo147 Originally by: Dianabolic You've had more than enough to face us out of vfk, echo, so don't be pulling the "numbers" card with us, thanks. WTS: Sense of humour - 100 isk. WTS pair of brass balls WTS: A life - 1 isk (must be donated to State War Academy) WTB: A 'True' Free House, where the beer runs free for ever! Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance
NoWeR	Posted - 2005.12.28 10:17:00 - [102] Edited by: NoWeR on 28/12/2005 10:18:05 Short words. First please stop the smacktalk in local. Second: Cdr Wood, Thxs, i know we won the war cos we had much better industrial part, but if noone fly the ships and show up theres nothing to do. Cowboy, please, i saw u in the fights, we lost most of the big battles, we got a lot of lag (68ft anyone?, 20 bs lost 0 shoots done?), but we won some engagemets too and then ur guys smaked in local they had lag too, both alliance have bad lossers, both alliances have stupid alts. That war was 1 moth ago, please ALL, ascn and GironZ: look forward!!! we both have a lot of things to do. Thxs.
Baconjoe	Posted - 2005.12.28 10:46:00 - [103] Originally by: Ripp Tyde ill def be ur huckleberry. Class We are cursed men
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 16:06:00 - [104] hello, i'd like to have everyone take a nice look at this thread from the start again (ok i couldn't be bothered to read all of it). my point is that bob are really l33t and their forum warring skills are all at lvl5. bob know that g and iron together is one of the most powerful entitys in eve 0.0-arena atm. they know that they simply can not win a full scale war against the two close allies. the solution then becomes to try and separate them. Originally by: DB Preacher Iron didn't make a move, G did and the results were obvious. BoB have had it too easy for too long and I knew the first time we came up against G we would struggle. the same method was used against imperium with great success. bob leaders consistently slandered imperium fleets and said that g was doing all the fighting. dianabolic follow nicely. Originally by: Dianabolic blah blah blah, defending fountain can be done if required, as can delve, as can period basis, as can anywhere else we feel the need to be - [G] may very well be able to defend their regions, we've not pushed the issue, we have shown that IRON are incapable of doing so, however, so perhaps a little bit more analysis and a little less "omg omg bob lost ONE battle, THE SKY IS FALLING" would give your post a little bit more credibility? with that background i start to wonder where sirmolle is. oh wait. it was an alt that started this thread and it immidiately got the attention of bob leaders. Originally by: VladImpaler It seems G and Iron finally made a move against BoB in JU, and BoB got the short end of the stick this time. From the BoB point of view, why did IRON need to bring in a G battleship fleet to fight their battles? From the IRON point of view, why did BoB take claim to JU, knowing that they would be facing both IRON and G when they finally returned from the south? Alts FTW yup.. that is very true. alts ftw! i dont like the way bob are using the forums. bob surely is a great alliance, but the way they use the forums make the game so much less enjoyable for alot of players.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 16:13:00 - [105] Originally by: Necronom Few things on the this topic, first off im on vacation in sunny arizona so im not 100% clear on wuts going on in game, but my take on G/IRON: BoB and myself hold nothing but respect for G, they have a group smaller than most of the space claiming alliances in 0.0, but can hold their space and launch attacks with more precision and result than most of 0.0 alliances (excluding BoB of course :p ). Im just glad we finally have an enemy with the balls 2 fight us head 2 head and head. To the poster of this thread im sure your just an IRON alt trying to tute his horn that ur big brothers came home and u finally won a fight. With all but a few exceptions IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight. Once again another alliance has proven that without G they are nothing. I look forward to fights with G when i get back, ps. do we still have the outpost? i cant login. Oh and have skilz's balls finally dropped? :p wow.. getting a bit too obvious there...... g and iron: stand firm against the forum tyrants! do what you do best, force the battle back in-game and keep it there.
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2005.12.28 16:36:00 - [106] Originally by: Darwin Originally by: VladImpaler Edited by: VladImpaler on 27/12/2005 08:42:10 It seems G and Iron finally made a move against BoB in JU, and BoB got the short end of the stick this time. From the BoB point of view, why did IRON need to bring in a G battleship fleet to fight their battles? From the IRON point of view, why did BoB take claim to JU, knowing that they would be facing both IRON and G when they finally returned from the south? Alts FTW I wish we had alts in RL. BoB's doomed anyway.....someone let Darwin in j/k Not been able to log in for a while, but looking forward to thwe new year and some good fights!
Reprisa	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:15:00 - [107] Suzy, you've got alot of good points. Iron, Send BoB a hurtin! ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:25:00 - [108] Originally by: Necronom Few things on the this topic, first off im on vacation in sunny arizona so im not 100% clear on wuts going on in game, but my take on G/IRON: BoB and myself hold nothing but respect for G, they have a group smaller than most of the space claiming alliances in 0.0, but can hold their space and launch attacks with more precision and result than most of 0.0 alliances (excluding BoB of course :p ). Im just glad we finally have an enemy with the balls 2 fight us head 2 head and head. To the poster of this thread im sure your just an IRON alt trying to tute his horn that ur big brothers came home and u finally won a fight. With all but a few exceptions IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight. Once again another alliance has proven that without G they are nothing. I look forward to fights with G when i get back, ps. do we still have the outpost? i cant login. Oh and have skilz's balls finally dropped? :p No, you talk a load of rubbish, without good leaders they are nothing, if you would actually open your eyes and stop contradicting yourself u utter half wit you might be able to realise that. "IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight" "We have killed 77 iron bs and 2 dreads while weve been here and about 470 ships alothether bla bla" Yeh tottally adds up. I see your good at recognising different class ships from each other. The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond **, they are just unspeakably bad, which is what bob have witnessed in the past weeks. Please, next time u post, try not to act asif your Gods gift to mankind, know everything, and then post total rubbish.
VladImpaler	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:27:00 - [109] Ok, supposing this is just a "roadtrip", at what point does it stop being a vacation? From the looks of it, BoB could turn around and go home now, "mission accomplished", 4 dread kills, a bunch of zydrine, several POS, and an outpost under their belts. You got what you wanted, except for the fight maybe. As for IRON, what's the holdup? How long are you going to tolerate BoB sitting in your own outpost and camping your stations? Do you hope they will get bored and go away?
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:28:00 - [110] Edited by: j0sephine on 28/12/2005 17:30:08 "bob know that g and iron together is one of the most powerful entitys in eve 0.0-arena atm. they know that they simply can not win a full scale war against the two close allies. the solution then becomes to try and separate them. (..) the same method was used against imperium with great success. bob leaders consistently slandered imperium fleets and said that g was doing all the fighting. (..) i dont like the way bob are using the forums. bob surely is a great alliance, but the way they use the forums make the game so much less enjoyable for alot of players." A much simpler alternative is, the things said might actually be true. Imperium inactivity in fight (vs activity in local smack) was commented on even by some of their [G] allies. IRON performance in the conflict so far is easy to verify through killboards. The fact two alliances are figthing together doesn't make them automagically equally good at that. And their enemy has no obligation to lie about it, in order to preserve the ego of weaker participant...
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:32:00 - [111] G + Iron relationship is nothing like the GIMP relationship. If 1 of BoB's objective really is to split them up, god they have an impossible task on thier hands.
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:48:00 - [112] Originally by: Darko1107 G + Iron relationship is nothing like the GIMP relationship. If 1 of BoB's objective really is to split them up, god they have an impossible task on thier hands. I think we've proved we know how to back a winning horse often enough. There are a lot of things that even you don't know sunshine Eve Blacklight Style
Mad Mackem	Posted - 2005.12.28 17:53:00 - [113] Hi Mam, Im in a thread with Darko Regards
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2005.12.28 18:01:00 - [114] Quote: The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond *, they are just unspeakably bad, which is what bob have witnessed in the past weeks. Please, next time u post, try not to act asif your Gods gift to mankind, know everything, and then post total rubbish. Thanx DAD for the recognition, lol It is not FC we are missing. ya know i lub ya d0rko, but perhaps if u were round ud see eh? For the longest time i could barely muster up a force of a descent size. The fittings well they were embarresing. The ships were again a laughing factor. no we didnt kill many bob during the time, but im proud of my lil goat farmers for ditchen thier <insert random farm tool> and going to die with me. My point is this, when i command we may be slaughtered due to various reasons why, but we are there to fight. my guys know that, and why they either love or hate me. But all respect me. patience and waiting 3 hrs for an engagement are not my forte'. Hence why i lead suicide squads. Ripp Tyde F.R.E.E.E. DingleBerry Bear snip* Signature image too large. Please resize it to a maximum height of 120px - Teblin
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 18:19:00 - [115] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Darko1107 G + Iron relationship is nothing like the GIMP relationship. If 1 of BoB's objective really is to split them up, god they have an impossible task on thier hands. I think we've proved we know how to back a winning horse often enough. There are a lot of things that even you don't know sunshine see necronom, here is how you say things with subtlety. let the ppl you are attacking draw their own conclusions, that way they think it is themselves thinking, and you work towards the forumwar goal of your alliance much more efficiently. the thing i'm starting to wonder about now is why bob are letting their full forum war force loose on a "roadtrip". thing is, it has to be a roadtrip. dbp has even asked for deklein not to be contested for now. bob will probably pull out of deklein very soon when ppl are getting back in game from holidays and g/iron will return to their full strength. pulling back they and their alts will also probably be stating things like "we pwn" and "respect to g for saving iron". my guess is that the trip up north was made in order to collect ammo for a future forum war aimed against iron. bob leadership recognise that the g/iron friendship is much stronger than the one between g and imp ever was. more sophisticated methods are needed in order to have a shot at splitting g/iron up. keep fighting the straightforward smackfree fight g/iron! you scared the mighty bob. you got too much good publicity on the forums at a time when it was very quiet in bobland.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 18:22:00 - [116] Originally by: VladImpaler Ok, supposing this is just a "roadtrip", at what point does it stop being a vacation? From the looks of it, BoB could turn around and go home now, "mission accomplished", 4 dread kills, a bunch of zydrine, several POS, and an outpost under their belts. You got what you wanted, except for the fight maybe. As for IRON, what's the holdup? How long are you going to tolerate BoB sitting in your own outpost and camping your stations? Do you hope they will get bored and go away? lookie here.. i got the attention of the alt-threadmaker. and now he is trying to confirm his position as a non-bob-alt. pretty nice job too. and you even got a jab in against iron in the end. nice.
Sochin	Posted - 2005.12.28 18:41:00 - [117] Originally by: Darko1107 No, you talk a load of rubbish, without good leaders they are nothing, if you would actually open your eyes and stop contradicting yourself/alliance buddies you might be able to realise that. "IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight" "We have killed 77 iron bs and 2 dreads while weve been here and about 470 ships alothether bla bla" Yeh tottally adds up. I see your good at recognising different class ships from each other. Are you an idiot? They started out flying BS and Dreads, and NOW only fly T1 frigs (few inties and AFs mixed in as well). Think for a change before you post. Nemo me impune lacessit
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2005.12.28 18:45:00 - [118] Originally by: Sochin Originally by: Darko1107 No, you talk a load of rubbish, without good leaders they are nothing, if you would actually open your eyes and stop contradicting yourself/alliance buddies you might be able to realise that. "IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight" "We have killed 77 iron bs and 2 dreads while weve been here and about 470 ships alothether bla bla" Yeh tottally adds up. I see your good at recognising different class ships from each other. Are you an idiot? They started out flying BS and Dreads, and NOW only fly T1 frigs (few inties and AFs mixed in as well). Think for a change before you post. Yes my prefered ship i fly is a condor, DUDE have u seen its new bonuses? lol Ripp Tyde F.R.E.E.E. DingleBerry Bear snip Signature image too large. Please resize it to a maximum height of 120px - Teblin
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:03:00 - [119] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 19:03:26 Originally by: suicidal suzy keep fighting the straightforward smackfree fight g/iron! you scared the mighty bob. Not really, pretty much everything we suspected has come to pass. A shock might have been if IRON or anyone in the North had defended their space successfully but alas it was not to be. Since the defeat to G last night, we've gone on to destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance. When G turn up to fight, we know we'll get a proper fight, the rest of the time it's just a race to see who can get on the killmails and has been since we arrived at the start of the month in all regions in the North. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:18:00 - [120] wts iron sekrits 4 isk EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
VladImpaler	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:21:00 - [121] Originally by: suicidal suzy Originally by: VladImpaler Ok, supposing this is just a "roadtrip", at what point does it stop being a vacation? From the looks of it, BoB could turn around and go home now, "mission accomplished", 4 dread kills, a bunch of zydrine, several POS, and an outpost under their belts. You got what you wanted, except for the fight maybe. As for IRON, what's the holdup? How long are you going to tolerate BoB sitting in your own outpost and camping your stations? Do you hope they will get bored and go away? lookie here.. i got the attention of the alt-threadmaker. and now he is trying to confirm his position as a non-bob-alt. pretty nice job too. and you even got a jab in against iron in the end. nice. Glad you liked it.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:25:00 - [122] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 19:03:26 Originally by: suicidal suzy keep fighting the straightforward smackfree fight g/iron! you scared the mighty bob. Not really, pretty much everything we suspected has come to pass. A shock might have been if IRON or anyone in the North had defended their space successfully but alas it was not to be. Since the defeat to G last night, we've gone on to destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance. When G turn up to fight, we know we'll get a proper fight, the rest of the time it's just a race to see who can get on the killmails and has been since we arrived at the start of the month in all regions in the North. dbp smacktastic dbp! as always. still following the "praise g-slander iron"-line too. i don't believe you tho, you contradict yourself within your own post. i am sure that the iron pilots not occupied in the south/stuck in the postpatch lag and their friends have made you work to keep ju and the outpost. i'm not going into the numbers, killboards are your game and while you are great at it, i dont like playing by your rules. but, how do you "destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance"?? were they afk at a gate? please, stop the forum war.
Caybn E'vangel	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:32:00 - [123] Originally by: suicidal suzy but, how do you "destroy another dreadnought, 27 BS and a bunch of support without resistance"?? were they afk at a gate? please, stop the forum war. If I.R.O.N. were drunk and afk losing dreads, I would have more respect for them. But no, Iron lose their Dreads the old fashioned way: lack of foresight and teamwork. I don't want the world, I just want your half.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:32:00 - [124] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 19:36:38 That's not smaktastic I'm afraid. If you want to prove anything I stated in that post incorrectly then please do so. We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. The ships destroyed since last night were simple ganks. There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. It's very easy to simply state that I am smaking these days without actually reading what I wrote. It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing the other side to put theirs forward simply because we are BoB. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:36:00 - [125] By looking at the frequency of the posts in this topic seems other people are bored at work too! :D keep going ^.^ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 19:36:00 - [126] By looking at the frequency of the posts in this topic seems other people are bored at work too! :D keep going ^.^ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:14:00 - [127] Originally by: DB Preacher We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. while i do not believe that you have had no resistance since you arrived we have to remember in what manner you did arrive. g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. when g/iron decided it was time to return north patchday was here and i have read some hints about the nightmare that must have followed. i do not know what is going on with their logistics now, but one would think that they are getting it done. Originally by: DB Preacher There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. i do not know what is going on ingame now or the last couple of days. the reason i am here (i stated it in one of my first posts) is to make ppl aware of some of the methods you in bob leadership are using in forum warfare and by doing that make them inefficient and hopefully make them stop. Originally by: DB Preacher It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing thEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:14:00 - [128] Originally by: DB Preacher We have had no real resistance since we arrived in the north to anything we are doing on a daily basis. while i do not believe that you have had no resistance since you arrived we have to remember in what manner you did arrive. g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. when g/iron decided it was time to return north patchday was here and i have read some hints about the nightmare that must have followed. i do not know what is going on with their logistics now, but one would think that they are getting it done. Originally by: DB Preacher There have been no fleet battles that I am aware of, nor has there been any attempted fleets to fight our guys. i do not know what is going on ingame now or the last couple of days. the reason i am here (i stated it in one of my first posts) is to make ppl aware of some of the methods you in bob leadership are using in forum warfare and by doing that make them inefficient and hopefully make them stop. Originally by: DB Preacher It's also very easy to sit on the forums and demand that yours is the only voice heard without allowing the other side to put theirs forward simply because we are BoB. i have never demanded that mine is the only voice to be heard. i wouldnt dream of being able to stand against the well-oiled forum war-machine that is bob. keep fighting the good fight g/iron! do not fall for their cheap tricks.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:36:00 - [129] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/12/2005 20:40:14 Right. So you don't know what's going on, you don't know what's been happening recently, you don't know what's actually been happening in the north but the rest of eve should take your word as gospel truth and that it is just me forum whoring and making stuff up. hmm. I've said this many, many times... if BoB lie on the forums then you can bet 5,000 people in eve will be there to tell everyone. I know it's hard for people to accept when we are stating facts and it's easier to state that we are simply "lying, flaming, smaking" etc when it's just because the truth hurts. I'm not speaking specifically in this case ofc but more for BoB's posting in general, personally I will always have a soft spot for IRON regardless of what people on the forums think. Except Anue, I don't believe I've smak'ed Iron or G in a very long time. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:42:00 - [130] meh... keep reading. you can do it dbp. yup, all the way to the end....... hi imran
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.28 20:53:00 - [131] Originally by: suicidal suzy meh... keep reading. you can do it dbp. yup, all the way to the end....... hi imran hihi! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:08:00 - [132] nice edit extending your post to three times it's original size there dbp.. im sorry if i hurt your feelings but i usually just dont like the way you post. lets leave it at that and stop the forum warfare now. thanks
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:42:00 - [133] Originally by: suicidal suzy g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. Still when G/IRON came into a region which was populated mostly industrialists (i.e. ASCN homelands) and scored a lot of kills that didn't stop them from claiming that they were some kind ub3r pvpers did it?
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.12.28 21:56:00 - [134] Originally by: Sochin Originally by: Darko1107 No, you talk a load of rubbish, without good leaders they are nothing, if you would actually open your eyes and stop contradicting yourself/alliance buddies you might be able to realise that. "IRON are mining carebears who fly around in small t1 ships and even then dont fight" "We have killed 77 iron bs and 2 dreads while weve been here and about 470 ships alothether bla bla" Yeh tottally adds up. I see your good at recognising different class ships from each other. Are you an idiot? They started out flying BS and Dreads, and NOW only fly T1 frigs (few inties and AFs mixed in as well). Think for a change before you post. Am i an idiot? Hmm, no dont think so. Are you? Well lets see. NOW they only fly t1 frigs, ok, so what am i looking at now, oh... an IRON bs kill in vfk 21:22. ANOTHER 1, 8S28, VENTURECORP 5.20, oh look and yesterday another 1. Infact, over the past 2 days, youve killed: 4 BS 4 Tech 1 Frigs 2 tech I cruisers 1 Hauler 1 Battlecruiser 2 Assault frigs 2 Intys Yet all they fly is tech 1 frigs now! YIKES! I think im better at reading your own killboard than u are! Who's the idiot now? Think before u post. (Please be advised: I do know "they all fly in t1 frigs" statement was an exageration and an attempt to spread propaganda that IRON either have no bs left, or have been ordered not to fly them.) Blacklight theres nothing I dont know! Im omnipotent..... or something...
xenodia	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:03:00 - [135] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 27/12/2005 11:09:01 IRON need to get thier bloody act together and actually start fighting, instead of just dieing :P. Hey dont be too hard on IRON. I mean, they had a huge gate camp in VFK a couple of nights ago.I know.. I sat there watching them cloaked for a half hour or so at the gate to 2R-CRW. Now granted, they didnt succeed in doing much other than scaring the crap out of their own haulers with the lag at jump in, as anyone with half a brain simply made an end-run around the gate camp through KF-, but hey, at least they werent mining somewhere. I must say the hostilities between G/IRON and BoB have made things interesting in the north, since both sides try to kill me. Should be some interesting times ahead.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:13:00 - [136] Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian Originally by: suicidal suzy g/iron were committed to the operation in esoteria and you came in to a region with mainly industrials. Still when G/IRON came into a region which was populated mostly industrialists (i.e. ASCN homelands) and scored a lot of kills that didn't stop them from claiming that they were some kind ub3r pvpers did it? i fail to see how that has anything to do with this. attacking is easier and more fun than defending in the game atm. naturally you will get more kills when you can jump unsuspecting miners who are probably rich enough to not really care. if you can do it while the organised pvp-force of an alliance is based 50+ jumps away, you will get even more easy kills. again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. only the weak follow the strong
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.28 22:21:00 - [137] Originally by: suicidal suzy again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. Would you like a lesson in bridge building, so you can get over that river you're crying right now? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:07:00 - [138] Originally by: Darko1107 The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond , they are just unspeakably bad Originally by:** Ripp Tyde Thanx DAD for the recognition, lol It is not FC we are missing. ya know i lub ya d0rko, but perhaps if u were round ud see eh? For the longest time i could barely muster up a force of a descent size. The fittings well they were embarresing. The ships were again a laughing factor. no we didnt kill many bob during the time, but im proud of my lil goat farmers for ditchen thier <insert random farm tool> and going to die with me. My point is this, when i command we may be slaughtered due to various reasons why, but we are there to fight. my guys know that, and why they either love or hate me. But all respect me. patience and waiting 3 hrs for an engagement are not my forte'. Hence why i lead suicide squads. In between the usual pointless flames, those 2 quotes are IMHO the most relevant in this thread (provided you can decipher Ripp's gibberish). Since I left IRON I won't say who's right or wrong, or who's proving the other's point, but those quotes made me giggle
Lorth	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:24:00 - [139] well I've read this whole thing and have come up with a few simple truths. 1: Blacklight is a drunk. Not that theres a person in eve that doesn't know this already. But it makes my list look bigger so I'll include it. 2: BOB posts on the forums. According to the alts, this has some sort of relevence on thier ingame performance. The logic goes as follows; the more they post, the worse they are doing. The fact that the thread is about them has nothing to do with it apperantly. 3: Iron suck 4: BOB suck 5: G suck 6: 5 suck. Not sure if this has been said yet or not, so let me be the first to say it, one of the alts will get around to it eventually. 7: Lag sucks. At least there's somthing we can all agree on. 8: Lorth is uber. This can not be said enough. Good luck guys, hope you all have some fun, and some good fights.
Nifel	Posted - 2005.12.29 00:47:00 - [140] Originally by: suicidal suzy attacking is easier and more fun than defending in the game atm. I'd actually argue it's the other way around atm. Of course... it requires an active defense but at the end defending a well prepared area is easier than attacking it atm. Everyone is invited to attack Delve with a real force and see how you do ;). "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2005.12.29 01:31:00 - [141] u forgot point 9 in ur list lorth, the Rex is _ber (note the 2 points that double the normal uber effect)
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:43:00 - [142] Originally by: Sorja Originally by: Darko1107 The only problem with IRON atm is that they have no good leaders, no good fc's and a **load of deadweight with to many commanders that "like to have fun" at the expense of everyones's ships. BoB can be good without good leadership they have alot of skilled pvpers that can operate in teams well without a strong leader. Iron cannot, without one they are beyond , they are just unspeakably bad Originally by:** Ripp Tyde Thanx DAD for the recognition, lol It is not FC we are missing. ya know i lub ya d0rko, but perhaps if u were round ud see eh? For the longest time i could barely muster up a force of a descent size. The fittings well they were embarresing. The ships were again a laughing factor. no we didnt kill many bob during the time, but im proud of my lil goat farmers for ditchen thier <insert random farm tool> and going to die with me. My point is this, when i command we may be slaughtered due to various reasons why, but we are there to fight. my guys know that, and why they either love or hate me. But all respect me. patience and waiting 3 hrs for an engagement are not my forte'. Hence why i lead suicide squads. In between the usual pointless flames, those 2 quotes are IMHO the most relevant in this thread (provided you can decipher Ripp's gibberish). Since I left IRON I won't say who's right or wrong, or who's proving the other's point, but those quotes made me giggle Sorja - while at many times we have been not on eachothers good sides, i respect you. While in iron you were a very capable FC. YES we have different styles. There are many reasons why we have lost a ton of ships in the last few weeks. Most everyone knows them. Majority of IRON pvpers down south. So gangs/ fleets were comprised of many ppl who never once flown in a large scale op. But how do ppl learn without the need to learn it. The forces I was able to muster up did me proud. Sure they may have lost thier ships and pods due to my "cowboy get my guns off attitude". but with out loss how can you appreciate gain? Change brings in young and new ppl. It also weeds out and introduces you to those with whom you do not need. As for the ones who have shown they have what it takes, I will enjoy flying with you for many months to come. As for how i feel? Look down upon us all you want. But it will be very silly of you to underestimate us! Ripp Tyde F.R.E.E.E. DingleBerry Bear snip Signature image too large. Please resize it to a maximum height of 120px - Teblin
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:45:00 - [143] LORTH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Josclyn Verreuil	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:55:00 - [144] I love all the people who think that BoB puts forth a concerted effort to troll the forums, as though they dedicate a group of players to do just that. People who will troll the forums will troll the forums regardless of their alliance affiliation. BoB has more trolls typically because they have a large base of high playtime/dedicated players, the same ones who normally troll the forums in any MMO. I highly doubt there is any real reason beyond this. ~Clan Verreuil
dreisenhoff	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:57:00 - [145] IMO Sorja was not a capablefleet commander at all. He was good at keeping his cool maybe - but he wasnt a very good commander tactically - alot of things he did wrong, countless times on TS id be listening to his ops and wondering "why the fu*k is he doing that" - his frenglish speaking didnt help. but respect to stepping up to the job - but he cant really criticise any FC really. alts ftw :) BTW nice post lorth, bob do post more on forums the worse they do :) Well done to Iron team in beating G-alliance in the pvp tournament :) good job
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 02:59:00 - [146] SORJA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Kryztal	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:17:00 - [147] Are we still talking about this ? Some of us werent able to participate in the battle so how about a rematch ? I mean we are here to fight and you win some and you lose some lets move one and have more good fights. <3 Bratzy
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:19:00 - [148] KRYZTAL FOR FIRST LADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:44:00 - [149] Originally by: Imran I might be wrong, but you seem to be bored at work Made in Portugal
Galaxion	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:47:00 - [150] Hang on a second. We lost... like 10 battleships? G lost... like 4 battleships? Really it's a small to medium-sized engagement. Does it warrant a 5-page thread, which i didnt bother to read because it probably rehashes the same thing over and over. People cant just let things rest eh? -----------------------------------------
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 03:47:00 - [151] Actually im off :], just really bored atm :] EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:00:00 - [152] Originally by: Galaxion Hang on a second. We lost... like 10 battleships? G lost... like 4 battleships? Really it's a small to medium-sized engagement. Does it warrant a 5-page thread, which i didnt bother to read because it probably rehashes the same thing over and over. People cant just let things rest eh? GALAXION FOR...meh what he said :) EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:06:00 - [153] this is for the bored ppl 1 word game Imran (to be continued...) Made in Portugal
dreisenhoff	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:08:00 - [154] so bob got owned? heheh 5 page threads on it - taste the medicine :)
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:12:00 - [155] Originally by: dreisenhoff so bob got owned? heheh 5 page threads on it - taste the medicine :) I think you got misinformed in the way down of the 5 pages... go up and read Made in Portugal
dreisenhoff	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:13:00 - [156] so bob got owned? heheh 5 page threads on it - taste the medicine :)
Ordep	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:15:00 - [157] Again ? Made in Portugal
Sorja	Posted - 2005.12.29 04:40:00 - [158] Originally by: dreisenhoff IMO Sorja was not a capablefleet commander at all. He was good at keeping his cool maybe - but he wasnt a very good commander tactically - alot of things he did wrong, countless times on TS id be listening to his ops and wondering "why the fu*k is he doing that" - his frenglish speaking didnt help. but respect to stepping up to the job - but he cant really criticise any FC really. Actually, I hate commanding, and only accepted to lead fleets because no one else could/would do it after Darko left. About tactics, your comment is void coming from an alt, especially from someone 'listening' to TS instead of flying a ship and fighting I met very decent pilots in IRON and it was a pleasure flying with them. Not the sharpest PvPers besides a bunch of veterans, but people willing to learn and improve, everything comes in time. IRON would have become a strong PvP force faster if corps with completely opposite mentalities hadn't been invited lately. Now it will take more time for fighting styles to standardize, but it will happen. Unfortunately, the lack of support, lack of respect and lack of leadership prevented me from seeing those better days. A game has to be fun, no need for a second job Those wars in the south and north are good for IRON, people need to lose ships to learn. The alliance is strong and growing in numbers and the partnership with G makes it impossible for anyone, be it BoB, to make the alliance crumble. Only internal problems could.
Azeroth Uluntil	Posted - 2005.12.29 08:16:00 - [159] Originally by: Sorja Originally by: dreisenhoff IMO Sorja was not a capablefleet commander at all. He was good at keeping his cool maybe - but he wasnt a very good commander tactically - alot of things he did wrong, countless times on TS id be listening to his ops and wondering "why the fu*k is he doing that" - his frenglish speaking didnt help. but respect to stepping up to the job - but he cant really criticise any FC really. Actually, I hate commanding, and only accepted to lead fleets because no one else could/would do it after Darko left. About tactics, your comment is void coming from an alt, especially from someone 'listening' to TS instead of flying a ship and fighting I met very decent pilots in IRON and it was a pleasure flying with them. Not the sharpest PvPers besides a bunch of veterans, but people willing to learn and improve, everything comes in time. IRON would have become a strong PvP force faster if corps with completely opposite mentalities hadn't been invited lately. Now it will take more time for fighting styles to standardize, but it will happen. Unfortunately, the lack of support, lack of respect and lack of leadership prevented me from seeing those better days. A game has to be fun, no need for a second job Those wars in the south and north are good for IRON, people need to lose ships to learn. The alliance is strong and growing in numbers and the partnership with G makes it impossible for anyone, be it BoB, to make the alliance crumble. Only internal problems could. He probably thinks you were a crappy commander because it wasn't his style of fighting. Meh, each to their own. It'd be nice if he didn't have to hide behind an alt, but I suppose he does it so he doesn't get his main's ass kicked from the alliance. No doubt, dreisenhoff, you have never lead a fleet anyhow. Oh... btw... IMRAN FOR QUEEN OF IRON!
Azeroth Uluntil	Posted - 2005.12.29 08:20:00 - [160] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: suicidal suzy again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. Would you like a lesson in bridge building, so you can get over that river you're crying right now? I find myself agreeing with Dianabolic. Anyone can use the forums as they see fit, and choose to ignore those calling them stupid or whatever else if they decide to post something that makes them look as such. Originally by: Galaxion Hang on a second. We lost... like 10 battleships? G lost... like 4 battleships? Really it's a small to medium-sized engagement. Does it warrant a 5-page thread, which i didnt bother to read because it probably rehashes the same thing over and over. People cant just let things rest eh? No, it seems people are demented and can't let things rest. Really rather sad, but hey, that's how things go.
suicidal suzy	Posted - 2005.12.29 08:46:00 - [161] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: suicidal suzy again. what i want to say here is that i strongly disagree with the way bob are using the forums. it is making the game alot less enjoyable for alot of people and i want to work against it. Would you like a lesson in bridge building, so you can get over that river you're crying right now? I find myself agreeing with Dianabolic. Anyone can use the forums as they see fit, and choose to ignore those calling them stupid or whatever else if they decide to post something that makes them look as such. dianabolic took my quote out of context before. i was only explaining it to an ascn guy that apparently misunderstood me. i ignored the reply because i just didnt think it would lead us anywhere good. the thing bob does differ from simple namecalling tho. they are creating alt-threads to make it look like pilots not involved directly in the conflict are taking their side. and it is your alliance that is at the recieving end of this right now. you as a leader of it might be able to sort out the bullsh*t, but youre not their target. only the weak follow the strong
Ramireza	Posted - 2005.12.29 09:03:00 - [162] As i said before : CLOSE THIS THREAD ! its realy boring now...
TWD	Posted - 2005.12.29 09:42:00 - [163] What is up with all the (ex-)IRON alts, are your members restricted to post or something? I see the BoB effect is in... effect.
Tyrande	Posted - 2005.12.29 12:45:00 - [164] Wow, Darko posts more IRON fanboi crap now than when he was in IRON \; I guess this sig is sort of out of date now huh?
dreisenhoff	Posted - 2005.12.29 13:27:00 - [165] Sorja....u were useless :) not the first time you left IRON when the going gets tough eh?? no doubt he'll be back once things are back on track. Yes i use an alt so i can express my opinion without getting hassled, and dealing with ****. thanks.
Deidranna	Posted - 2005.12.29 13:38:00 - [166] Edited by: Deidranna on 29/12/2005 13:42:46 press release... hello alts <3 sorja deidranna -=Proud member of the 18.7570452772=-
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.12.29 13:44:00 - [167] Originally by: Deidranna Edited by: Deidranna on 29/12/2005 13:42:46 press release... hello alts <3 sorja deidranna qft. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.12.29 14:08:00 - [168] Dammit why havent I seen this thread earlier :¦( - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Imran	Posted - 2005.12.29 17:51:00 - [169] Edited by: Imran on 29/12/2005 17:51:13 roflrofl coffee > monitor hahahahahaa edit : in regards to the picture btw :P ^.^ funnneh EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Pant Alones	Posted - 2005.12.29 20:59:00 - [170] Originally by: Deidranna lol -------------------
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.12.29 21:16:00 - [171] ahahaha, arnold.. where would we be without you..
Grimster	Posted - 2005.12.30 04:33:00 - [172] Originally by: TWD I see the BoB effect is in... effect. Heh this is usually the way of things. BoB always have and always will be forum w40res, it's the way we are, live with it or move along.

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