Not even on my worst day.

Edit; speaking of peoples killboards LOL

The "mane" difference being, I'm not in the forums making claims about my pvp 'leetness with my forum alt.

That, and I can spell.

(Oh, and if I read the notes right, it'll just be T1, T2, and faction shield boosters that get buffed; deadspace, officer, and ancillary boosters are staying as-is...)

So your spelling skills are good and your reading comprehension is in need of training, I am not a leet PVP'er I am an adequate PVPer that is sad about losing a reliable ship due to tieracide. Sorry, thought I made that clear but I guess not clear enough for you.

But while we are here discussing grammar, killboards, and reputations do you have anything to add to the actual conversation about the loss of another great ship?

Okay, so, the "mane" difference being, I'm not in the forums making claims about my PVP "adequateness" and using examples of that to back up the point I'm trying to make about a PVP ship. You are. The point being, you are claiming experience with this ship to support the concerns you are raising, without providing any proof of this experience. And as you're not sure about the other side of your argument, the math, I don't understand why you bothered to start this thread.

Maybe you should stick to incursions.

Your stealth ISN recruitment thread in Missions and Complexes is that way, carebear. <-----------------

"Your stats are bad so your opinion counts less."

The internet has too many people like you. Go away.

Okay, so, the "mane" difference being, I'm not in the forums making claims about my PVP "adequateness" and using examples of that to back up the point I'm trying to make about a PVP ship. You are. The point being, you are claiming experience with this ship to support the concerns you are raising, without providing any proof of this experience. And as you're not sure about the other side of your argument, the math, I don't understand why you bothered to start this thread.

Maybe you should stick to incursions.

The internet has too many people claiming to be an "expert" and asking you to take their word for something without proof. If you're going to make an argument based on your own expertise, and little else, you should be prepared to back it up. Had he made no claims about his PVP experience with a Sleipnir, my objection would be ad hominem. But he did. So it's not.

Douche bag of the week award! Congrats.

Yes, that is an example of ad hominem. Hard to take criticism seriously from someone who opens with name calling.

ISN officer alt detected.

Oh, so this is a class.

I haven't been in an Incursion fleet for two months, additionally every poster in a thread defending me and pointing out your trolling is not an ISN alt.

The more I think about the changes as a whole the more I think that we're not seeing much shift in the Sleip's old role of solo wtf thing. It can still get nearly the same damage out of ACs (and every time I run the numbers I come to that conclusion; I'm horribly unsure how anyone is coming to anything else) and it's actually getting a decent boost to arties. It's getting bonuses to both skirmish and siege links. And it's getting modestly improved base resists on top of it.

I think we're looking at a very, very strong ship coming off of 1.1. But of course time will tell.

I'm on record as absolutely hating all incursions, so I'll vouch for this. Even if we're not absolutely agreeing on everything.

The more I think about the changes as a whole the more I think that we're not seeing much shift in the Sleip's old role of solo wtf thing. It can still get nearly the same damage out of ACs (and every time I run the numbers I come to that conclusion; I'm horribly unsure how anyone is coming to anything else) and it's actually getting a decent boost to arties. It's getting bonuses to both skirmish and siege links. And it's getting modestly improved base resists on top of it.

I think we're looking at a very, very strong ship coming off of 1.1. But of course time will tell.

I hope so, would really hate losing it. But that is the evolution of the game I guess there will always be a better ship for the job. Can't wait for this to get to SiSi so I can get the real numbers.

CS changes are up on sisi if you didn't know already. :)

I was totally wrong about everything.

The sleipnir is getting a extreme buff in fleets, it now puts out the most alpha any medium sized ship can produce, combined with a epic resistance profile, a range bonus and very good hp you got a real killer.

I didnt see you correcting the math.

Don't throw stones in glass houses, you added zero value to the thread yourself, well except a whole page of pointless arguing.

I didn't see you at all, spectator, so what did YOU add?

The value I added to the thread was pointing out that the OP's claims of experience were unsubstantiated. He had a serious credibility problem, and now I'm here to tell you "I toldja so." Why argue with a PVE theorycrafter's math when the whole thing is live on Sisi for empirical testing? LOL

Massive reply about how I don't deserve a reply.

Lol, name calling.

At least I know the difference between a "mane" and a "main".

The actual loss of PG and CPU is not an estimation and the effect it will have on those pilots that like running single XL-ASB and Dual L-ASB is obvious since both those fits leave no room for anything else.

Not yet - Fozzie said so in the CS thread a couple of days back. Frankly, I'm torn about the CS changes. On the one hand, there's Sleipnir, which I've come to adore, on the other there's the other three, which will look great in their new hulls. 3/4 = change all, I guess. But then the sacrifice is Sleipnir... doh. Ideally, they'd all get unique models instead.

I didn't see you at all, spectator, so what did YOU add?

The value I added to the thread was pointing out that the OP's claims of experience were unsubstantiated. He had a serious credibility problem, and now I'm here to tell you "I toldja so." Why argue with a PVE theorycrafter's math when the whole thing is live on Sisi for empirical testing? LOL

Thus you added nothing, which the average user couldn't add up themselves, apart from making yourself look like a douche and Gooldiiee look like a level headed guy.

Too bad that you are incapable of seeing that while several people ISN plebs have pointed it out already.

Nt name cullin jst remrkn on yer chosin moniker.
Still with the grammar huh? yer rgumants r por nd u scarcrow tctc dtrcks frm ne hid'n ntelgnc u wr trin 2 poortray.