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Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:04:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Ryuce wrote: Thus you added nothing, which the average user couldn't add up themselves, apart from making yourself look like a douche and Gooldiiee look like a level headed guy.
Too bad that you are incapable of seeing that while several people ISN plebs have pointed it out already.
For a second, I felt the smallest twinge of remorse. But then I remembered that you're a goon alt that recruits for Sniggwaffe. That and your unconditional defense of Queen Goldiiee means you're probably just another ISN zealot. Yeah when I read this... Goldiiee wrote:Nt name cullin jst remrkn on yer chosin moniker. Still with the grammar huh? yer rgumants r por nd u scarcrow tctc dtrcks frm ne hid'n ntelgnc u wr trin 2 poortray. ...the first thing I thought was, "Wow, this guy sure is level headed." I can see why you trail along behind him holding tightly to his apron strings. If you really care about him, you should advise him that RPing a PVPer is never a good idea. I realize that his feelings are hurt, but in the end it's better that he learn this lesson sooner than later. "Don't try to describe a Kiss concert if you've never seen it. You just might end up being wrong." If only I had as many followers as you believe I do.
I did see a Kiss concert once in 1986, and I have seen my fair share of PVP, your lack of anything other than pokes and jibes is indicative of a troubled life and I am sorry about that.
But WOW the persecution complex is really bleeding through, everyone in the forums can not be an ISN alt. I could just be another player posting in a game forum looking for feedback, and not some evil mastermind trying to ruin your day.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:28:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I could just be another player posting in a game forum looking for feedback
Yeah but, in fact, you're not.
Goldiiee wrote: I have seen my fair share of PVP
Proof or GTFO. Which has been my point all along. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:00:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Goldiiee wrote:I could just be another player posting in a game forum looking for feedback Yeah but, in fact, you're not. Goldiiee wrote: I have seen my fair share of PVP Proof or GTFO. Which has been my point all along. Edit: LOLOL at you changing the original thread topic. Granted, it was pretty embarrassing how you originally wrote it. Maybe in time people will forget that you amateurishly declared the Sleipnir dead without so much as a ? at the end. While you're revising out your mistakes, you should do something about the dual L-ASB derp, your math derp, and all of the 2nd grader spelling. But then, there wouldn't be much left. Your trolling has been fed enough, go find a new bridge.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:26:00 -
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You know, I've stopped posting in this thread three times already, but then you or one of your goon/ISN cronies comes back in and stirs the pot again. They're such easy targets I just can't help but shoot them down. I'm not sure at what point it will become boring, but I'll let you know. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:03:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:You know, I've stopped posting in this thread three times already, but then you or one of your goon/ISN cronies comes back in and stirs the pot again. They're such easy targets I just can't help but shoot them down. I'm not sure at what point it will become boring, but I'll let you know. Edit: Holy crap you can't even spell YOUR OWN NAME right! ROFLOLOLOL!!! Quote:...rant against Goldiiiee *FACEPALM* SO... MUCH... FAIL.... CAN'T... STOP... LAUGHING!!!! HALP!!! Sad little man,
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:38:00 -
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making the best cs better, destroying the rest.
I hate emos. |

Hell Bitch
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.19 11:33:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:You know, I've stopped posting in this thread three times already, but then you or one of your goon/ISN cronies comes back in and stirs the pot again. They're such easy targets I just can't help but shoot them down. I'm not sure at what point it will become boring, but I'll let you know. Edit: Holy crap you can't even spell YOUR OWN NAME right! ROFLOLOLOL!!! Quote:...rant against Goldiiiee *FACEPALM* SO... MUCH... FAIL.... CAN'T... STOP... LAUGHING!!!! HALP!!!
I used to think that sex and rock n roll were the merry bedfellows of drugs, but it appears i've been doing it all wrong. Instead what I should've been doing was logging onto the eve forums and making myself look a ******.
Oops, silly me.
Thankyou for your wisdom oh wise one. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
33
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Posted - 2013.08.19 15:26:00 -
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Hell ***** wrote:Sarcasm and ***********s.
Oh noes. Sarcasm. And "It's full of stars!"
Goldiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiee wrote:Sad little man,
Oh noes. A sentence ending in a comma.
*yawn*
Here, let me offer you reprieve. If it's a learning disability, I'll apologize. Please post your official diagnosis for aforementioned consolation. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:11:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Amarr Citizen 43534603406346 wrote:Sarcasm and ***********s. Oh noes. Sarcasm. And "It's full of stars!" Based on your forum alt's name, and your post, you appear to believe that sarcasm and profanity have inate power, which puts your mental age at around 12. Tough break that you're posting on a forum that blanks out the words you don't dare say out loud around adults. Goldiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiee wrote:Sad little man, Oh noes. A sentence ending in a comma. *yawn* Here, let me offer you reprieve. If it's a learning disability, I'll apologize. Please post your official diagnosis for aforementioned consolation. Try not to use big words, they must be confusing you. I think you meant 'aforementioned Condition'
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:16:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Here, let me offer you reprieve. If it's a learning disability, I'll apologize. Please post your official diagnosis for aforementioned consolation.
Try not to use big words, they must be confusing you. I think you meant 'aforementioned Condition'
*sigh* No.
con-+so-+la-+tion [kon-suh-ley-shuhn] noun 1. the act of consoling; comfort; solace.
If you have a learning disability, I will apologize, thus offering consolation for your condition. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:54:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Here, let me offer you reprieve. If it's a learning disability, I'll apologize. Please post your official diagnosis for aforementioned consolation.
Try not to use big words, they must be confusing you. I think you meant 'aforementioned Condition' *sigh* No. con-+so-+la-+tion [kon-suh-ley-shuhn] noun 1. the act of consoling; comfort; solace. If you have a learning disability, I will apologize, thus offering consolation for your condition. Still don't get it, do you? Let everyone know when you figure it out, take your time not everyone gets to be smart.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:09:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote: Still don't get it, do you? Let everyone know when you figure it out, take your time not everyone gets to be smart.
If you have been diagnosed with a learning disability, then please, let me know instead of playing coy. There's nothing funny about disabilities. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:30:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Goldiiee wrote: Still don't get it, do you? Let everyone know when you figure it out, take your time not everyone gets to be smart.
If you have been diagnosed with a learning disability, then please, let me know instead of playing coy. There's nothing funny about disabilities. LOL Still nothing but air huh?
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Tsai Ashitaka
Aether Ventures Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:04:00 -
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Putting aside the utter derailment of this thread, I'd like to reiterate Zhilla's point that the Sleipnir is losing less than 4% of its DPS.
Bonuses are calculated multiplicatively in the case of multiple stacking bonuses.
The two 50% bonuses DO NOT end up being a single 100% bonus (10 turrets).
They are applied separately:
5 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 11.25 turrets, compared to the existing 11.6735 turrets.
You're losing less than half of a turret.
CPU isn't changing, and you're losing 160 PG (while gaining much more than that from dropping two guns).
Sleipnir is coming out ahead in fittings and a TINY bit behind in effective damage.
Let's not forget it's gaining A LOT of alpha and DRASTICALLY reducing its ammo consumption (2 less turrets and the loss of RoF bonus).
Chill OP, Sleipnir is still one of the winners in the CS pass.
Nighthawk/Vulture, on the other hand... |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:36:00 -
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Tsai Ashitaka wrote:Putting aside the utter derailment of this thread, I'd like to reiterate Zhilla's point that the Sleipnir is losing less than 4% of its DPS.
Bonuses are calculated multiplicatively in the case of multiple stacking bonuses.
The two 50% bonuses DO NOT end up being a single 100% bonus (10 turrets).
They are applied separately:
5 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 11.25 turrets, compared to the existing 11.6735 turrets.
You're losing less than half of a turret.
CPU isn't changing, and you're losing 160 PG (while gaining much more than that from dropping two guns).
Sleipnir is coming out ahead in fittings and a TINY bit behind in effective damage.
Let's not forget it's gaining A LOT of alpha and DRASTICALLY reducing its ammo consumption (2 less turrets and the loss of RoF bonus).
Chill OP, Sleipnir is still one of the winners in the CS pass.
Nighthawk/Vulture, on the other hand... Yeah we figured that out 20 posts ago thanks for the clarification though. personally glad they gave back the 50cpu they were planning on taking away.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Zane Lowe
I Need Some Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2013.08.20 00:25:00 -
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Man Goldiiee, your posting is just kinda sad now, and the personal attack in the thread title isn't cool either. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.20 01:30:00 -
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Zane Lowe wrote:Man Goldiiee, your posting is just kinda sad now, and the personal attack in the thread title isn't cool either. Your right, fixed that. Let the constant barrage of irrelevant posting jade me for awhile there.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:49:00 -
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Thread cleaned up rather heftily. Keep it civil and keep it clean, people. CCP Gargant | Community Representative | Tournament Referee |
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Lynkon Lawg
Second Six Corporation
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:57:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:7 turrets * 4/3 RoF bonus * 5/4 damage bonus = 35/3 effective turrets (11.67)
5 turrets * 3/2 damage bonus * 3/2 damage bonus = 45/4 effective turrets (11.25)
Net difference: 5/12 effective turrets (.42), a 3.6% loss in DPS.
Note that with arties getting a straight 10% RoF bonus the Sleip in that configuration actually gains ~8% DPS.
Edit: still pretty pissed about the presumably impending hull switch though; I'll give you that.
Forgive my ignorance, but can someone explain how to read these equations? What does the 4/3, 5/4, 35/3 etc. mean? |

Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.08.22 23:20:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Who here loves their Sleipnir, I mean really loves it?
It took a long time to find out how great this ship was, and now that I use it I canGÇÖt imagine playing the game without it. With the ability to tank PVP and PVE, to look at a gate camp and actually have the ability to make a decision to hit them rather than run, for linking the fit to friends when they ask what should they fly and why, yes it is or was the end all/be all of cruiser sized hulls.
But soon it will be nerfed into the scrap pile; losing 15m3 of drone space, no big deal; adding 25km of targeting range, didnGÇÖt need it Autocannons donGÇÖt care if you can lock that far out; But losing 2 turrets, 160pg and 50 cpu is a deathknell for me.
My old Sleip did 950 DPS, could tank 2000dps for 60 seconds. The new one will barely scrape 700 and change DPS and the tighter PG and CPU will make the ASB tank even tighter to fit on a ship that had only .5 cpu left in the first place.
So there goes another great ship to the scrap yard for the sake of balance.
You should actually fly it on TC.... it's been buffed compared to the old sleip you listed. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.08.23 00:07:00 -
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Vrenth wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Who here loves their Sleipnir, I mean really loves it?
It took a long time to find out how great this ship was, and now that I use it I canGÇÖt imagine playing the game without it. With the ability to tank PVP and PVE, to look at a gate camp and actually have the ability to make a decision to hit them rather than run, for linking the fit to friends when they ask what should they fly and why, yes it is or was the end all/be all of cruiser sized hulls.
But soon it will be nerfed into the scrap pile; losing 15m3 of drone space, no big deal; adding 25km of targeting range, didnGÇÖt need it Autocannons donGÇÖt care if you can lock that far out; But losing 2 turrets, 160pg and 50 cpu is a deathknell for me.
My old Sleip did 950 DPS, could tank 2000dps for 60 seconds. The new one will barely scrape 700 and change DPS and the tighter PG and CPU will make the ASB tank even tighter to fit on a ship that had only .5 cpu left in the first place.
So there goes another great ship to the scrap yard for the sake of balance. You should actually fly it on TC.... it's been buffed compared to the old sleip you listed. Yeah, we have came to that conclusion also. :)
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:03:00 -
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Lynkon Lawg wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:7 turrets * 4/3 RoF bonus * 5/4 damage bonus = 35/3 effective turrets (11.67)
5 turrets * 3/2 damage bonus * 3/2 damage bonus = 45/4 effective turrets (11.25)
Net difference: 5/12 effective turrets (.42), a 3.6% loss in DPS.
Note that with arties getting a straight 10% RoF bonus the Sleip in that configuration actually gains ~8% DPS.
Edit: still pretty pissed about the presumably impending hull switch though; I'll give you that. Forgive my ignorance, but can someone explain how to read these equations? What does the 4/3, 5/4, 35/3 etc. mean?
They're fractions. 5/4 represents a 5%/level damage bonus at level 5 where you now have four turrets doing the work of 5. 4/3 is a 5%/level rate of fire bonus where each turret is now firing in .75 the duration -- and since .75 = 3/4 and you're dividing by it, the bonus ends up being 4/3 or 1.333. 3/2 is a 10%/level damage bonus at level 5, where each turret is now doing the work of one and a half.
35/3 and 45/4 are just the product (yes, I did that) of multiplication based on bonuses and the number of original turrets. |
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