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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.28 22:42:00 -
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I am very happy to announce that tonight EVE-Poker.com is launched.
If you like poker, and need something to do on that 22 jump long trade route, or are you bored to hell while mining, go to www.eve-poker.com from the ingame browser in EVE, and claim your welcome gift.
I hope you will all enjoy the game as much as I know I will myself.
Any comments are most welcome, both ingame and in this thread.
Visit the site, and try out the game for free or read more about it and how it works.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Goldar
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Posted - 2005.12.29 00:57:00 -
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Just been testing it out with the free isk, all seemed well at first...however it seems that its not paying out wins now. Had a pair, two pairs and a straight and none of them registered.
Might need to get that fixed.....
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.29 08:55:00 -
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I am pretty sure you missed that the winnings was actually added to your balance the instant you got the winning hand.
If you have 10.000 ISK and bet 100 ISK and get Jacks or better, you win 1:1 - that means that you will still have 10.000 ISK when the game ends. If you get 2 pairs, you win 2:1, and you will have 10.100 ISK at the end of the game.
If you do not pay attention to how much you balance is before you start a game, you may not notice that your winnings are added to your balance when you win. Maybe this should be more clear.
But let me look into it..
I have no record of Goldar playing, so I need to know what char you played with.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.29 10:06:00 -
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During the maintance today I will add a page where you can see your last 50 played games. This should clear up any confusion about if a winning hand has been registered or not.
After 12.00 today, go to "Your account" and click "My Hands" in the bottom of the page.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Jaka
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Posted - 2005.12.29 10:27:00 -
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Perhaps you should think about adding login. Or at least make an option on the profile to force logins. I guess i don't have to tell you how easy it is to spoof the IGB headers.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.29 12:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Jaka
Perhaps you should think about adding login. Or at least make an option on the profile to force logins. I guess i don't have to tell you how easy it is to spoof the IGB headers.
You need to do more than just identify your browser as the ingame browser in EVE. You would need knowledge about what infomation the system needs to identify the player etc..
I do agree though. The system are not bulletproof. I will add an option to set a password, and advise people to set one, when they make their first real deposit.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.12.29 13:34:00 -
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This is the best idea since the battleship 
I think I will have to stay away (I am not alowed to bet according to the woman sitting next to me  )
I might try it later though when she is not here... 
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lord lex
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Posted - 2005.12.29 15:36:00 -
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Then my isk was gone
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: lord lex
Then my isk was gone
Feel free to deposit a some more. If you bet high, your 10.000 ISK you get as a welcome gift may be gone fast.
So far, the player that made the best profit has more than 4 times the size of the welcome gift.
By the way - the site has been under down for 6 hours now. I have added an option to set a password, and a page where you can see your last 50 hands. The site is up and running again now.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.29 16:26:00 -
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FINNALY! Someone actually did this... i was thinking about organizing peopl to play a tournament at a free place like party poker... but its not possible to have a private game...
Finanly... a way to make isk while pvping!
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Arilius Saint
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Posted - 2005.12.29 17:24:00 -
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Blackjack... Pleeese do up some blackjack.
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PuttPutt
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Posted - 2005.12.29 18:48:00 -
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its so awsome how we get a payout and use eve isk :)
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Cersei
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Posted - 2005.12.29 18:55:00 -
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Credits: 80,600 ISK
:o
please get texas holdem with multiplayer support. It would really rawk.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.29 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cersei
Credits: 80,600 ISK
:o
please get texas holdem with multiplayer support. It would really rawk.
That's pretty good, considering you started with 10,000 ISK.
I dont think it would be possible to make a multiplayer poker-game run in the ingame browser. Hosting a private game on a real life poker room, and make someone take care of the entry fee (isk) would be a better idea.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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PuttPutt
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Posted - 2005.12.29 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
Originally by: Cersei
Credits: 80,600 ISK
:o
please get texas holdem with multiplayer support. It would really rawk.
That's pretty good, considering you started with 10,000 ISK.
I dont think it would be possible to make a multiplayer poker-game run in the ingame browser. Hosting a private game on a real life poker room, and make someone take care of the entry fee (isk) would be a better idea.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
Valid point here. The ingame browser has its limitations..
But maybe some other variations of poker...
Texas Hold'em: Have 3 nonplayer (bots) and just the user play against them, and have him able to fold if its a bad hand, etc etc.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.30 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: PuttPutt
Valid point here. The ingame browser has its limitations..
But maybe some other variations of poker...
Texas Hold'em: Have 3 nonplayer (bots) and just the user play against them, and have him able to fold if its a bad hand, etc etc.
Well.. I have thought about that. I think BlackJack would be better for that. In BJ the dealer has to go <17 and stand >=17.
If I could script a texas hold'em bot that could beat real life players, I wouldn't be doing it for EVE, I would be doing it on the real lige poker sites
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ManOfHonor
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Posted - 2005.12.30 07:48:00 -
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Woohoo!
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:09:00 -
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This is great  . Couple of suggestions follows:
1) slightly bigger cards
2) remove that green background
3) write your own random generator*
* I think this uses same random generator with T2 bpo lottery as I lost all my money.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.30 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Nuerin
This is great . Couple of suggestions follows:
1) slightly bigger cards
2) remove that green background
3) write your own random generator*
* I think this uses same random generator with T2 bpo lottery as I lost all my money.
1) What resolution are you running? Im running 1280*1024 myself, and I wouldn't want the cards to be bigger.
2) That would ruin the spirit you only find around a poker table :) an option to turn it off maybe.. I'll think about it
3) I did. As most random generators uses current time as a seed to make a random number, I wrote my own to make it even better.
Thanks for your suggestions.
About loosing all your money; Statistically you wont win money in the long run. I am using very much the same payoffs as real Jacks or Better Video Poker. This means that the payout rate is just about 95%. For every 1,000,000 ISK you bet you will statistically win back 950,000 ISK.
Some people win less than 95% back and some people win more.
I am sorry we cant all win, but when everything is running smooth and I have confidence that EVE-Poker have black numbers on the bottom line, I will start comming up with special events and competitions to get some of the ISK people have spent back into the players wallet.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.12.30 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
Originally by: Cersei
Credits: 80,600 ISK
:o
please get texas holdem with multiplayer support. It would really rawk.
That's pretty good, considering you started with 10,000 ISK.
I dont think it would be possible to make a multiplayer poker-game run in the ingame browser. Hosting a private game on a real life poker room, and make someone take care of the entry fee (isk) would be a better idea.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
Oh it's doable alright
Expect some competition - once we get wallet export 
BIG Lottery
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Christoph Xavier
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Posted - 2005.12.30 20:47:00 -
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This is great for the first few rounds, but then it gets boring. This is a fantastic idea though and I would definitly do it if there was some thinking involved. For instance, have a randomly generated dealer hand, something I have to beat, not just Jack or better, etc. And then let me place an addition bet once I see my cards. If there was some thinking, now that would be fun.
I applaud you for the idea though, this has real potential.
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More Ahn
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Posted - 2005.12.30 22:16:00 -
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One question... Writing really good random number generators is a bit of an art. What type of RNG are you using?
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.30 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Christoph Xavier
This is great for the first few rounds, but then it gets boring. This is a fantastic idea though and I would definitly do it if there was some thinking involved. For instance, have a randomly generated dealer hand, something I have to beat, not just Jack or better, etc. And then let me place an addition bet once I see my cards. If there was some thinking, now that would be fun.
I applaud you for the idea though, this has real potential.
I will consider that. I was thinking maybe to make a blackjack game later, but this could work too..
Basicly this is just a slot machine with Video Poker. Slot macines do get boring, true..
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2005.12.30 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: More Ahn
One question... Writing really good random number generators is a bit of an art. What type of RNG are you using?
I still use the randomize features supplied by asp, but I just made a better seed.
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2005.12.31 01:37:00 -
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You could take a look at Mersenne Twister for example, it's a very good random generator, used quite a lot for monte carlo methods and sometime encryption. As it's coded in C, you might probably be able to port it to ASP with not much troubles.
I don't know about the random feature in ASP, but I don't think it's much better than the classic rand() or srand() in C, eg. really not very good statisticaly speaking.
Originally by: Tuxford
I've got better editing powers
Originally by: Oveur
I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious
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Stanis
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Posted - 2005.12.31 04:37:00 -
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Is there a way to alow more ppl to play at one "table" i.e. pokerstars.com or ultimatebet.com?
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Itanis
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Posted - 2005.12.31 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Trelennen
You could take a look at Mersenne Twister for example, it's a very good random generator, used quite a lot for monte carlo methods and sometime encryption. As it's coded in C, you might probably be able to port it to ASP with not much troubles.
I don't know about the random feature in ASP, but I don't think it's much better than the classic rand() or srand() in C, eg. really not very good statisticaly speaking.
MT's main thing is in being faaast, not for encryption.
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JoeT
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Posted - 2005.12.31 08:15:00 -
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as soon as i have a chance to play eve, i will give this a try.
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Veleck Lightseeker
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Posted - 2006.01.01 10:36:00 -
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Been playing the game a little bit and I might suggest for jacks or better a 1.5:1 payout. May keep people playing longer when they earn a little back and don't just break even.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.01 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Veleck Lightseeker
Been playing the game a little bit and I might suggest for jacks or better a 1.5:1 payout. May keep people playing longer when they earn a little back and don't just break even.
There is just one problem with that. Raising the payoff on Jacks or Better from 1:1 to 1.5:1 will also raise the estimated total payout from about 95% to over 100%. That's something I cannot afford :)
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2006.01.01 16:08:00 -
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I'm not moaning
Game is addictive though 
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Khirzan Wolfson
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Posted - 2006.01.03 03:53:00 -
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Ok I would like it if you explain a little more for me. So the money that this is running from is going to be your personal wallet? and if so, then obviousley the house will win overall....however, how can we even be guarenteed that the house will be able to payout? are you one of those roaming billionaires?
-Khirzan Wolfson
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PuttPutt
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Posted - 2006.01.03 08:06:00 -
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I want in on some hi-roller stuff! Placin my bets at 1 mil!
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Thecle Vifargent
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Posted - 2006.01.03 11:04:00 -
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Great game, i play only by 100isk but addictive.
Now you can add slot machines please ?
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Fredrik Gnaust
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Posted - 2006.01.03 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Fredrik Gnaust on 03/01/2006 14:00:21
Had 100K ISK from the 10K starters.. then I started playing 25K.. just once i said.. now i have 10K left.. will come back later and try again :P
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.03 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
Ok I would like it if you explain a little more for me.
With pleasure!
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
So the money that this is running from is going to be your personal wallet? and if so, then obviousley the house will win overall....
Overall.. The house always wins. That's how it is. I am aiming for a total payout of 95%. If I was aiming for 100% I wouldn't be able to give everyone 10,000 ISK to start playing for when they first login to EVE-Poker. 450+ users so far, that's 4.5 mil ISK in welcome gifts.
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
however, how can we even be guarenteed that the house will be able to payout?
I always make sure to have more money than the balance on all the EVE-Poker accounts added together. It's not likely that everyone would cashout all their money on the same day, but I like to play it safe. That's my guarentee to you.
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
are you one of those roaming billionaires?
No, I am not a roaming billionaire, and eve-poker.com wont make me such one. As I said I have yet to earn back the 4.5 mil ISK in welcome gifts so far. When I start earning money on EVE-Poker, I will throw some special events, competitions etc to get some of that money back to the comunity.
Not everyone like the idea of how this works. To quote a guy on IRC when I told him about EVE-Poker.
Originally by: Some guy on #eve-online @ irc.quakenet.org
Send your money to this guy, and wait one hour! Yeah right! lol
Well, you wouldn't use your credit card and deposit $50 to a real life poker site either, if you didn't think they would be able to cashout your winnings.
I respect that, and I wouldn't encourage anyone to play if they don't completely thrust the concept of how EVE-Poker works, or that I am capable of having their money in my wallet while they play.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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imblocked
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Posted - 2006.01.04 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: imblocked on 04/01/2006 08:18:35
For a normal player who win a minimum of 80 000 isk per rats killed, playing 100 isk per game and sending 10 000 isk to eve poker is a drop in the ocean for some hours of fun while traveling or waiting for something ingame...
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Posted - 2006.01.04 12:07:00 -
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Eve poker now? oh my.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.04 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Thecle Vifargent
Great game, i play only by 100isk but addictive.
Now you can add slot machines please ?
I will come up with other games later, don't worry :)
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Divania
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Posted - 2006.01.04 18:06:00 -
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Transferd 2 mill to my poker account :) Lets have a look on how this game evolves (is that english?) oh well :P
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2006.01.04 23:06:00 -
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I send a mil isk and i have to say it was added within 20 mins or
i like the game however im missing the fun a little cuz its a bit lowscale
i would love to see the possible bets raised a lot like towards 500.000 or something
other then that good job man!
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Lanu
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lanu on 05/01/2006 22:39:20
Damn nice work!
edit--
I just heared that blackjack is comming up next \o/
Millennium est qua meus patria est. Nos mos nunquam intereo.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.06 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tr4XX
i would love to see the possible bets raised a lot like towards 500.000 or something
I will soon change the way you set your bet, so you an bet any amount you want for each game, without having to change the option on Your Account. I will set a maximum, but not as high af 500,000 but higher than the 25,000 you can bet now.
Originally by: Lanu
I just heared that blackjack is comming up next \o/
True. I am working on a Blackjack game. I expect it to be ready sometime next week.
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Dale Cussler
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Posted - 2006.01.07 01:27:00 -
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Nice work, and it's very well doable to have a multiplayer game, you just need to keep state entirely on the server, and work with refreshes and such interesting things.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.08 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dale Cussler
Nice work, and it's very well doable to have a multiplayer game, you just need to keep state entirely on the server, and work with refreshes and such interesting things.
"refreshes and such interesting things" are exactly the things that are not doable in the ingame browser.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Linn Shadowstorm on 11/01/2006 12:38:37
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:45:00 -
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See the first post in this thread for an update about BlackJack.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.01.11 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
Originally by: Dale Cussler
Nice work, and it's very well doable to have a multiplayer game, you just need to keep state entirely on the server, and work with refreshes and such interesting things.
"refreshes and such interesting things" are exactly the things that are not doable in the ingame browser.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
but it is ;)
"We brake for nobody"
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.11 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
Originally by: Dale Cussler
Nice work, and it's very well doable to have a multiplayer game, you just need to keep state entirely on the server, and work with refreshes and such interesting things.
"refreshes and such interesting things" are exactly the things that are not doable in the ingame browser.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
but it is ;)
I read the IGB documentation one more time, and you are right, it should be possible to make the browser refresh.. Texas Hold'em comming up next I guess 
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:57:00 -
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Read the 21 Jan '06 update in the original post on the first page.
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
If you have 10.000 ISK and bet 100 ISK and get Jacks or better, you win 1:1
That doesnt make much sense! If I bet 100 Isk and win then I should win more than 100 isk back. If I dont then I didnt actually win, it means I just didn't lose.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.01.23 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Dentill
Originally by: Linn Shadowstorm
If you have 10.000 ISK and bet 100 ISK and get Jacks or better, you win 1:1
That doesnt make much sense! If I bet 100 Isk and win then I should win more than 100 isk back. If I dont then I didnt actually win, it means I just didn't lose.
I suppose you can say that.. It doesn't work the same way as in BlackJack. In BlackJack you only loose your bet if you loose your game.
In Jacks or Better you loose your bet the instant you start the game. If you get JJ or better, you win back your bet 1:1, means that you are even.
In Jacks or Better there are an overall chance of 45.4% to get a winning hand. If you should win your bet back 2:1 on JJ or better, the total payout of the game would be 116% statistically.. if all winning hands should pay back the payoff + your initial bet, the total payout percentage would be 140% - bad business for a casino
Do the math yourself.
http://wizardofodds.com/videopoker/tables/jacksorbetter.html
Anyway, it is not a mistake that you do not actually "win" anything when you get JJ or better. But you don't loose anything either. That's how the game works - again, different from BlackJack.
Sorry if this is confusing.
Best Regards
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Manager
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Wayn Dotha
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Posted - 2006.01.30 15:04:00 -
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What does "outside your NeoComBrowser" mean? If I go at the Site, I get a message, that it only works in the ingame browser.
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Linn Shadowstorm
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Posted - 2006.02.04 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wayn Dotha
What does "outside your NeoComBrowser" mean? If I go at the Site, I get a message, that it only works in the ingame browser.
I disabled the access from out-of-game browsers for a few days, due to login not working correct. That's why you got that message. It should work as intended now though.
You will need your char ID (not name, but the actual ID) and you will need to have a password set for your account, to be able to log in from an out-of-game browser.
If you dont know your char ID you can see it on Your Account page when you are logged in ingame.
Linn Shadowstorm
EVE-Poker Casino
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Amarria Lightwielder
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:19:00 -
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very nice work :)
Waiting for 5 mill to be transfered =)
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:24:00 -
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This is the greatest idea since Tech 2.
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