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Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
120
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Posted - 2011.11.02 12:26:00 -
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Barbie D0ll wrote: I dont want to learn how agression mechanics work and therefore get butthurt when someone uses them against me
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Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:07:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Only, I can bet anything the cat is having more fun in the end. Personally, I find it more fun to get the proverbial "goodfight" rather than ganking clueless people but you don't see me making spergy madposts about it, unlike your boy trinkets. tbh if you wanna gank anything, gank an incursion fleet because they can fight back and if they don't give a **** about learning agression mechanics so be it
The whole point of ganking logi is that they can't fight back. Only logi gets aggro, and only after it's been shot. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
227
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:48:00 -
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Barbie D0ll wrote:Goose99 wrote:It's a trap. The logi flipped a can. you have no idea how long people have been getting away with this [strikeout]exploit[/strikeout] loophole and CCP hasn't done anything about it. I think people have been doing this since the beginning of the game and they STILL haven't fixed it.
Actually, this is a relatively new thing.
A couple of years ago it was possible to get someone to rep you and then shoot at someone else, invoking a concord kill on you and passing it to the logi pilot because they were assisting an outlaw. This was fixed by having GCC stop reps rather than get people concorded.
While that was going on, though, if I had a legitimate reason to be shooting at someone I couldn't shoot at their neutral logi. This meant a can flipper or griefer or someone pretending to be spoiling for a 1v1 in highsec could have several neutral RR on hand to ensure they won any fight they got in. CCP fixed this just recently so that logi get aggression when they assist someone who has committed an aggressive act.
This is not an exploit at all. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
227
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:49:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:The whole point of ganking logi is that they can't fight back. Only logi gets aggro, and only after it's been shot. 
A quick look at our killboard should demonstrate that our primary targets are not defenseless. We've lost three ships to people fighting back so far. |

Odemis
The Skunkworks
1
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:46:00 -
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Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it. My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between you and us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, and you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.
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Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:19:00 -
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Odemis wrote:Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.
My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.
No Signature Required
What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
229
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:43:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics. But...we're shooting the gunboats, too.
Forget game mechanics, literacy should be your priority. |

Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:47:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Goose99 wrote:What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics. But...we're shooting the gunboats, too. Forget game mechanics, literacy should be your priority.
Only if they flip a can, and only after you finished off the logis and shot them first.
See? This is what I get for talking to tards... |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
229
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:10:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Only if they flip a can, and only after you finished off the logis and shot them first. See? This is what I get for talking to tards... 
You've just thoroughly demonstrated that you have no idea what is going on. |

Desudes
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:48:00 -
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How does one get into this? I want to shoot some bears before my EVE sub goes away. :( Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu? |
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Odemis
The Skunkworks
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:56:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Odemis wrote:Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.
My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.
No Signature Required What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics.
Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.
- Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
- Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
- I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
- Tie 2 of us down and kill us
- Run to the forums
- ?????
- Profit?
What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard"
Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p |

Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2011.11.03 03:19:00 -
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Odemis wrote:Goose99 wrote:Odemis wrote:Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.
My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.
No Signature Required What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics. Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.
- Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
- Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
- I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
- Tie 2 of us down and kill us
- Run to the forums
- ?????
- Profit?
What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard" Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p
Ever heard of concorken? |

Odemis
The Skunkworks
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 03:24:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Odemis wrote:Goose99 wrote:Odemis wrote:Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.
My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.
No Signature Required What a tard. You do realize the gunboats can't shoot without being concorded, right? That's the whole point. Learn the game mechanics. Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.
- Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
- Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
- I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
- Tie 2 of us down and kill us
- Run to the forums
- ?????
- Profit?
What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard" Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p Ever heard of concorken? 
^^^^^^^^^ Don't know how to read so well huh?
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Shinigami yama
Ascension to Darkness
3
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:51:00 -
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I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!! |

ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
16
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:39:00 -
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(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.
Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics - Nulla Curas |

Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
259
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Posted - 2011.11.03 10:07:00 -
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Goose99 is a complete tard and posts **** all over every thread he thinks he knows something about.
He's near totally clueless and will eventually back out of thread once you link the exact reason he is wrong.
Goose, a hint, it's not just logi ships that can gather aggression. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Shaidar Hussan
Uncontrollable Violence Rage Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.11.03 10:25:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.
Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal.
Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it. |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
33
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Posted - 2011.11.03 17:07:00 -
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Shaidar Hussan wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.
Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal. Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it. well. if they can't be good pirates maybe they should try to do something different?  like carebearing..... lol |

How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
6
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:12:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Shaidar Hussan wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.
Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics Meh, incursions are the best way to make money in this game outside of (possibly) nullsec or C5 and higher WHs. They're a completely risk free ISK generating screw up on the part of CCP, and I for one am glad that someone is making them more dangerous. These guys should be given a medal. Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards you'd see they've killed a lot of shiney faction battleships. Total module drop for yesterday's kills on the Skunkwork's killboard was about a billion ISK. Since lowsec is pretty much dead now highsec ganking incursion fleets seems like the only realistic way for a pirate to make any money. Kudos to them for having the patience to do it. well. if they can't be good pirates maybe they should try to do something different?  like carebearing..... lol
The definition piracy(in this instance) is justified. Are they not profiting? Seems like they're doing a pretty good job to me. The modern eve pirate is one who takes advantage of game mechanics and uses it to their advantage. As you can see lowsec/null just isn't what it used to be. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:14:00 -
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Shinigami yama wrote:I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!
5/10. Talk about phoning in effort, this is a pitiful troll (I hope).
We're just following the money. When it was in wormholes, that's where I spent most of my time. Now it's incursions, and we've found a unique way to profit from them.
And if you think it's easy listening to idiot after idiot drone on in fleet comms while we set them up, you're one of the idiots and your opinions are not valid :) |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:17:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics
I love people who seem to think that their way of PVP is the equivalent of Queensbury rules. A "real PVP corp" either plays the n+1 game of nullsec or the neutral rr/station games of high sec. I see very little "toe to toe" combat in Eve. You should really give up this pretense of your style of fighting being "fair" because it almost never is. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:21:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Also, if you bothered to look at their killboards That's cheating! You're supposed to make assumptions based on your limited understanding of game mechanics and your preconceptions about others! |

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:55:00 -
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Floppie gets combo points for posting in a row like that. |

Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:03:00 -
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Shinigami yama wrote:I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!
ChromeStriker wrote:(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.
Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics
But that stuff is dangerous, he might lose his boat.
The whole point of logi ganking is that anyone other than the logi that's been shot don't get aggro, and will get concorken for shooting the ganker. You see, real pros pvp against logi under concord protection. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:18:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:The whole point of logi ganking is that anyone other than the logi that's been shot don't get aggro, and will get concorken for shooting the ganker. You see, real pros pvp against logi under concord protection. 
Somewhere, someone is building a monument to this impressive display of ignorance.
Seriously, you have no idea what's been happening. You should stop posting. |

Skarned
Inroads
10
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:47:00 -
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The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned.  |

Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:29:00 -
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Skarned wrote:The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned. 
Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:21:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken. 
The funny thing is, last I saw Skunkworks was at war with Inroads. Nope, he's not one of ours :)
And ffs, it's CONCORDOKKEN. If you're going to pretend you know what you're talking about, at least try to get the terms right. And concordokken isn't even a thing any more, that stunt was removed like a year ago.
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Skarned
Inroads
10
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Posted - 2011.11.05 02:39:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Skarned wrote:The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned.  Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken. 
A couple of months ago I watched a Logi that I killed get blamed for voilencing his fleet because none of their logis lived. How stupid is that? Pretty ******* stupid, just like most incursion bears. |

Desudes
Federal Defence Union Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.11.05 02:48:00 -
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Skarned wrote:Goose99 wrote:Skarned wrote:The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned.  Look at all the alts trying to clear the banlist. Then look at them trying to convince carebears they can shoot them without concorken.  A couple of months ago I watched a Logi that I killed get blamed for voilencing his fleet because none of their logis lived. How stupid is that? Pretty ******* stupid, just like most incursion bears.
I have yet to find a crowd in MMOs that didn't have its fair share of idiots.
The closest I ever came was tiny (3-6 player) pvp clique in WoW. Even then we had to let in retards because we needed warm bodies to do more content. Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu? |
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