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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.22 07:21:00 -
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The ironic thing about this is all the replies saying titans should be on the field
Think back... titans used to see the field much more often
But then everyone cried about it
So titans got hit with the nerf bat (repeatedly), they lost AOE DD, DD SubCaps, Tracking etc
You turned them into what they are today
It's not really that you want titans on the field... you just want an expensive km to pad your boards.
Either that or you just want to nerf the last remaining use for them.
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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.23 07:23:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:suid0 wrote:The ironic thing about this is all the replies saying titans should be on the field
Think back... titans used to see the field much more often
But then everyone cried about it
So titans got hit with the nerf bat (repeatedly), they lost AOE DD, DD SubCaps, Tracking etc
You turned them into what they are today
It's not really that you want titans on the field... you just want an expensive km to pad your boards.
Either that or you just want to nerf the last remaining use for them.
By being used on the field you mean using a DD, and being off grid and cloaked again in 30 seconds?
There are several ships in this game that can deploy an area of effect warp disruptor that would prevent them getting off grid again. Perhaps you should look them up and learn about them. It's the players task and responsibility to get tackle.
Commander Ted wrote:
Then after that we had groups of 30 of them sitting around instantly destroying whole fleets of subcaps with no counter other than more titans?
You brought an alpha fleet.... so did we
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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.23 08:48:00 -
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Sigras wrote:thank you for concisely explaining why titans were totally overpowered and needed to be changed, now perhaps if you had something to add to the discussion on bridging . . . you know the thing this thread is actually about.
Never explained any such thing, that is entirely your opinion on them. And imo you're wrong.
They weren't overpowered, they were somewhat annoying to go up against sure, but they're titans, they should be.
At least before the last nerf they were usable and saw the field.
Now they're only good for bridging, structure griding and DDing other caps. Why would or should they be deployed for anything else? especially with their price tag.
Now you're crying that they don't see the field and bridging should be changed. Not because you want them on the field, but because you know if the titan jumped with the bridge less groups of people would hot drop.
This suggestion has nothing to do with actually putting titans on the field to fight, you just want to make your space safer and dramatically reduce the risk you get hot dropped.
Add to the fact eve is supposed to be about spaceships, fights and conflict, the titan bridge lets 2+ groups of people get to the same place to actually have a fight without spending an additional 1hr+ travelling. nerf the bridge and you remove a mode of transport that actually helps facilitate fleet fights.
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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.23 13:08:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:suid0 wrote:
There are several ships in this game that can deploy an area of effect warp disruptor that would prevent them getting off grid again. Perhaps you should look them up and learn about them. It's the players task and responsibility to get tackle.
That doesn't work WHEN THERE DEAD.
Given the titan can't DD, track or hit it... HOW DID THEY DIE? Why did you only bring 1 ?!?!?!?!?!
Seriously... if you couldn't keep a titan tackled when it has a support fleet then... what makes you think you'd be able to with a change that makes the titan jump with it's support fleet?
no troll.... did you forget to take your medication or something?
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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.23 14:43:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
*facepalm*
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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.23 15:00:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:suid0 wrote:Commander Ted wrote:the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones *facepalm* Nothing else is left alive except a heavy interdictor. The entire fleet to kill this titan is dead and must reship. The titan can easily reship. Also DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK KILLING ALL SUBCAPS ON GRID ISN'T AN OP ABILITY THAT SHOULDN'T BE NERFED? Are you being a troll? Of course, PL has enough titans that they could clear the grid of carriers to. Nothing OP about a ship that is capable of one shoting capitals and subcaps, CCP was so silly for nerfing that.
Seriously... what the **** are you on about? why is the entire fleet dead? how does a titan reship?
I never once said bring back AOE DD, I said they (titans) were still used up until the last nerf... which was the tracking nerf. |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.26 10:48:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:suid0 wrote:
Seriously... what the **** are you on about? why is the entire fleet dead? how does a titan reship?
I never once said bring back AOE DD, I said they (titans) were still used up until the last nerf... which was the tracking nerf.
suid0 wrote:
So titans got hit with the nerf bat (repeatedly), they lost AOE DD, DD SubCaps, Tracking etc
You turned them into what they are today
That is YOU whinning about titans not having AOE DD.
No... that's me listing the nerfs. I never said all of them were unjustified, simply listed them... my point was after a long list of nerfs to the original titans, nerfing the bridge is obviously just the next thing on your list to you cry about and one of the few abilities the ship has left.
Commander Ted wrote:
I hope you are trolling because DD has been mentioned multiple times during our exchange, your stupidity is mind boggling.
And your reading and comprehension skills are comparable to that of roadkill.
Given your terrible quoting and misrepresentation of the points made you're clearly trolling .
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.29 10:37:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
To counter the sheer numbers, we would introduce an upkeep to supercaps similar to sovereignty upkeep. The more supercaps you would have, the more money you'd have to throw into them to keep them. That way, it would soon become prohibitively expensive to field hundreds.
This already exists... in the form of fuel... do you have any idea of the accumulative quantity of fuel an entire capital fleet chews through?
btw.. not arguing in favour of massive capital fleets, just thought that worth mentioning.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
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