Weirdly enough, i don't have an answer for either of these two questions.

I'm just playing.

As one would expect from someone so meta.

Weirdly enough, i don't have an answer for either of these two questions.

I'm just playing.

ehh

i might read more about eve than i play it

i suspect i only keep the sub up to justify reading about eve

Yes, suicide ganking and awoxing are fun.

If so, why?

If not, why?

It is easy to spot the ones who do not like Eve, they do not play.

However, It still get the juices flowing pushing someones **** in or getting mine pushed in for that matter.

Making plans and plotting about what I will do in EvE is great fun, makes me happy and tickles every strategic bone in my body.

Implementing those plans through actually playing EvE is a tedious clickfest that is better understood as an endurance sport than as a game.

If so, why?

If not, why?

D
Does playing EVE make me happy?

What the hell do you think? It is the second job equivalent of...pulling your pants down, and helicoptering your junk around the room, while stabbing your friends in the back, taking a dump on your secretary's desk, laughing at a little kid after you take his bike, doing a mountain of blow, and then putting on a suicide vest and taking out a group of curious onlookers.

...and that's just from dealing with corporate politics, chatting in local and reading the forums. Imagine what actually flying the spaceships is like!

....Yes

Why?, because goats

If so, why?

If so, why?

If not, why?

If so, why?

If not, why?

i must do, i keep coming back.

basically you can not let go of it, because it sucks out more energy then it gives back

gamplay is timeconsuming and frustrating, PvP mechanics are just bad, hours of waiting, then eeh eeh blob, thats why most of the players just do PvE

because the game is so frustrating, most people tend to be assholes in the game and on the forums

the game mechanics, does not favour fun, it favours frustration and how to avoide it is the key

* enemie comes, just dock
* enemie comes, just trashtalk
* enemie comes. blob 30 vs. 1
* goto null, eeh eeh blob, never go there again and run missions

the game too much favours anoying playstyles, and even worse, people think its cool, like scamming, ganking all of that, the winner seems to be the one who frustrates the others, however you loose the good and just keep the bad...

its a downward spiral

I thought you kept subscribed to provide me with mineral value analyses of belts and anomalies?

basically you can not let go of it, because it sucks out more energy then it gives back

gamplay is timeconsuming and frustrating, PvP mechanics are just bad, hours of waiting, then eeh eeh blob, thats why most of the players just do PvE

because the game is so frustrating, most people tend to be assholes in the game and on the forums

the game mechanics, does not favour fun, it favours frustration and how to avoide it is the key

* enemie comes, just dock
* enemie comes, just trashtalk
* enemie comes. blob 30 vs. 1
* goto null, eeh eeh blob, never go there again and run missions

the game too much favours anoying playstyles, and even worse, people think its cool, like scamming, ganking all of that, the winner seems to be the one who frustrates the others, however you loose the good and just keep the bad...

its a downward spiral

This begs the question: what, despite all that, keeps you coming back?

If so, why?

If not, why?

you don't realize it so much at the beginning because of the stiff learning curve, but after that it just feels empty...

I feel like you have not answered the question.

Yes, I am one of those people who sits about in a station all day chatting, but, I have fun doing it, so why not :) Also, Eve has some of the most awesome people I have ever met, which is an added bonus

Well. Getting sick, dizzy and throwing up now and then as a result of playing Eve due to star gate jump animations isn't exactly a "happy" experience.

If this *really* made you sick,
you would close your eyes every jump to make it stop.

Because ... obvious workaround. (please note i didn't say "fix")

Non autonomic blinking / repeated eye closures triggers some annoying muscle issues in the eyes, primarily as its an uncommon physical activity.

How about just looking away for a moment?

Non autonomic blinking / repeated eye closures trigger some annoying muscle issues in the eyes/eye lids. Primarily as its an uncommon physical activity. While rationally, the idea seems plausible, doing that sort of thing for a few hours is a great way to trigger a vicious headache and excessive eyelid strain.

That's ridiculous.

"Closing the eyes for a few seconds" != "rapid blinking", "repeated eye closure"


You just talk crap.

i stare out of the window on long road trips a lot instead of looking straight ahead.

If I didn't some enjoyment out of the game I wouldn't be a subscriber; however, there are some things about Eve that make me unhappy and have at times driven me away for months at a time. What is that thing?

The players.

Over the years the players have gone from snots, to jerks, to assholes, to being downright nasty to each other.

I'm not talking about stuff like ganking, piracy (I spent years as a pirate myself), corp theft, scamming, etc.; that's part of Eve, we love the option of playing that way. Eve is, after all, a "cold, harsh world." We love our villains.

The nastiness is something completely different and it's getting worse.

But... you don't drive, do you? -¼-¼

I have a love-hate relationship with this game. I first started playing it in, uh, late 2004 I think? But I've never stuck around for more than a few months at a time before I get bored and unsub. Every time, the problem is the same: can't find good people to fly with, who play in/around my time zone, and who don't require 746182764182 hours a week commitment "for the good of the corp".

But then a few months later, it's "Oh man, I miss EVE. I should re-sub." (And for some reason I always biomass and start over, because I apparently lack any sense of reason or logic; hence the newbie character.) Maybe this time will be different?

I like the appeal of sandbox games, but I always have some trouble justifying the pursuit of any particular goal. It's like, I *could* try to make a billion isk, or fly a capital ship, or form a powerful FW corp, or (insert anything here), but... why?

Actually, I tend to think this way about most things IRL, too. Everything about life seems pretty pointless, when you get right down to it. The only thing I've found for which the inherent pointlessness doesn't bother me, is making video games. Creating stuff does seem as pointless as anything else, but it's at least *satisfying* in a way nothing else is.

(Gee, I sound depressed, don't I? Fortunately I don't actually feel *badly* about any of the above. It's just... well, it just is.)

What's probably changed over the years is your tolerance of (and thus noticing of) "nastiness", not the basic level of it.

Pretty sure this isn't the case.

I had dialed the 1st 6 numbers of the suicide hotline, then i read the last line so I didn't dial the 7th

But more seriously, that's a good post in that you understand that it's not an issue of the game but rather of what kind of gamer you are. 99% of everyone else will think that there is a problem with the game rather than looking at themselves and say "I'm like this with everything". Lots of EVe players hate the sandbox aspects and would probably be happier in a themepark styled game but stickwith EVE beause of the space ships and the time they've invested.....

....which still doesn't explain why they aren't making more rational mmo game choices like playing Star Trek Online, a space mmo that doesn't even all the kinds of things that people dislike about EVE.

It is proved that happiness is created by sharing moments with people you enjoy being around (citation NOT provided) so I am happy cos I interact with some great people.

It's been 7 years without new competitors for EVE

You know TOR has really nifty avatars and no non consensual PvP. And it's free now.

Just saying.

basically you can not let go of it, because it sucks out more energy then it gives back

gamplay is timeconsuming and frustrating, PvP mechanics are just bad, hours of waiting, then eeh eeh blob, thats why most of the players just do PvE

because the game is so frustrating, most people tend to be assholes in the game and on the forums

the game mechanics, does not favour fun, it favours frustration and how to avoide it is the key

* enemie comes, just dock
* enemie comes, just trashtalk
* enemie comes. blob 30 vs. 1
* goto null, eeh eeh blob, never go there again and run missions

the game too much favours anoying playstyles, and even worse, people think its cool, like scamming, ganking all of that, the winner seems to be the one who frustrates the others, however you loose the good and just keep the bad...

its a downward spiral

You know TOR has really nifty avatars and no non consensual PvP. And it's free now.

Just saying.

...or maybe what that people dislikes are the tools provided by the only space freelancing/sandbox MMO, and yet love space freelancing games.

Played Elite, played Privateer, played Freelancer, played X series... they all had freelancing elements. A theme park doesn't cuts it for me. And then it turns that the only space themed sandbox/freelancing MMO is EVE.

So playing EVE is better than stop playing space freelancing games, at least until more space freelancing games hit the market. And here we are, X-Rebirth by November 15th (19th in the USA) and Star Citizen hitting alpha roughly by Q1 2014.

It's been 7 years without new competitors for EVE, now we should see what happens. Obivously theme parks are not competitors to EVE. But X-Rebirth and Star Citizen are members of the brethen.

Pretty sure this isn't the case.

No, I get it; I mean, I can understand the frustration if you genuinely love EVE's gameplay seeing people do the love-hate dance, but I think this is different from mechwarrior. It's not just the genre, but the size and vitality of the game.

Hell, i've seen it in real life. in every job I've ever had there's been "that guy" who would really rather be somewhere else but never leaves the job he hates for some kooky reason or another.

What evidence would you accept?

Here's the very first EVE forum thread I posted in, back in 2006. Look familiar? The "Lofty Trick" was to persuade a mission runner to fleet with your while you had a war-dec active agaijnst that alt's cori, then (the rules pertaining at the time, the war-dec transferred to anyone in the same fleet) have said alt invite you to the fleet, warp in and kill the mission runner for the delicious loot. Lofty29 did this dozens of times and made an unbelievable amount of ISK doing it, basically preying on high-level mission runners who thought they were helping a noob.

it does not make me happy....

I got cancer and Im going to die... Dont really know when, I assume when sores stop healing and I bleed internally. And since my life is going to be short anyways, I dont see a point of starting something serious and time consuming in real life.

So I play EVE.... Compensation for not being able to get outta bed on the bad days and for not being able to do stuff which normal ppl do in real life on the good days.

Sorry for the condition ,you are in right now ,but pls throw away the laptop and make the best of your final moments with your loved ones ,instead of this idiotic forum

You know TOR has really nifty avatars and no non consensual PvP. And it's free now.

Just saying.

What we were doing was remembering how it was for US back then, not how it was for everyone else. Every generation of human beings have felt the exact same way. When was the last time someone said "wow, things are so much better now than in the past"?

it does not make me happy....

I got cancer and Im going to die... Dont really know when, I assume when sores stop healing and I bleed internally. And since my life is going to be short anyways, I dont see a point of starting something serious and time consuming in real life.

So I play EVE.... Compensation for not being able to get outta bed on the bad days and for not being able to do stuff which normal ppl do in real life on the good days.

strange I thought about playing this game as well in case I got cancer, would go mining and think about those rocks to be the cancer that I have to mine away... using it as a mantra

No, it does not make me happy. Mostly because of New Order people stinking up Local and the newbie chat channels. That pseudo-preacher spiel could be interesting, if done by somebody with a tiny bit of taste and talent. Instead, it's like a bunch of console button-mashers trying to write their own lines for a high school skit. It's so embarrassingly pathetic that it's lowering the quality of the gaming experience. Not all player-created content is quality content-- how true that is.

Could some civic-minded person help us all out and write some new lines for the New Order guys please?

The post/avatar synergy here makes me very happy.

I would guess she meant there have been no sandbox MMO competitors..

Also free SWTOR does not count. The limitations of F2P are ridiculous. Its an EA game..

well, the Star Citizen is coming.. In a couple years

Does playing EVE make you happy? Do you enjoy it?

If so, why?

If not, why?

i do enjoy eve. i suppose it does make me happy too. and i'm still surprised, when i stop to think about it, that i do. this is not the kind of game i usually like playing. on the surface it seems remarkable. i don't really like science fiction. i never gave a damn about spaceships. however, despite all that, when i did the trial...i found something in this game i hadn't really had in other games before. some raw nature in it. unforgiving. where every bit of enjoyment you have on a particular day balances on a knives edge and can, oh so easily, fall off to either side with just bad planning, bad execution...or just plain bad luck.

it was a unique experience. plus, i have met some really cool people in my time playing. strong friendships that transcend just being "logged in." the bonds that i've made simply make the game all that more worthwhile and enjoyable when i play.



feeling strangely...hot and bothered after reading this...

I use to really love the game, but times change, people change, the rules change. Now I don't do very much but train skills, lurk on the forums, and hope that things start to get better. Until then, there is Minecraft!

Gawd this game is depressing... far too many A-holes, immature kiddies, and thugs... The sandbox has become a litter box.
Once I sell all my stuff, and can no longer PLEx, I'll be fading into the shadows... It's been a good run, been playing since 2008.
CCP you have until about mid October to turn this game around.

You nerfed my HM's...
You nerfed my Tengu...
You totally twerked my Exploration...
The door is still closed....
Far too many promises broken...
The New Order is now taking a runny dump in the sandbox...
The soul tormenting GRIND for Isk...
SOV!!!!!!
GOONS!!!!!!!
BLOBZ!!!!!!!

on and on and on....

Seriously, I'm only here because of the PLEX...
Not one more penny from me CCP unless you.. ahh what's the use....

#Bitter

people like you are why i love the game

Does playing EVE make you happy? Do you enjoy it?

If so, why?

If not, why?

If so, why?

If not, why?

No, I often pay money for a service which makes me miserable, sad, angry and some times even suicidal.

"Caught" a Proteus in a Curse, activated neuts. He just tackles me and proceeds to effortlessly kill me. 3 neuts on him for 90 seconds, his guns don't turn off, his tackle doesn't go down, he exhausts my ASB and I die. No idea how.

Check eve-kill. 98.74% efficiency, over a trillion ISK destroyed. Yeah.

What are cap booster?

I like it, it entertains me, its "fun" to me right now. However, they will be hard pressed to beat Star Citizen, and a lot of the empty promises in Eve will be why I quit playing it.

No smuggling after 5 years? **** that.

If so, why?

If not, why?

Happy ? No.
Happy is an amazingly rare feeling you get when something extraordinary happens.


Do I enjoy the game ?
I guess I do up to a point.

Its hours / days / weeks of boredom followed by minutes / hours of insane adrenaline rush.

The thing I hate most about it is - ME !
As soon as I get ahead in this game - ISK wise - it all goes away to SOMER and endless hours of rating commence once again.

But if it wasnt for loosing endless billion on gambling there would be no reason for me to login except when fleet ping goes out. It takes me a week to amass enough ISK for PVP and PLEX for coming few months and then boredom settles in real quick.


As a coalition mate once said - EVE is an amazingly boring game we pay to play in order to have minuets of fun.
Think this sums it quite nicely.

How many of Star Citizen's promises will be empty?