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Damn, this clocking problem must be serious... its about time someone did something... its fairly widespread, so its not like its a minute problem.

Just hit snooze for a while and wait for the problem to be fixed? Watch the gates and wait for them?

Nah, I'm out, I got nothin' else...



Edit: gotta hand it to these clockers, though, they're efficient.

So? Its still a problem.

AFK cloak does not help create combat.

His point is: Why start a new whine post when there are already so many to whine in?

If you really are looking for a fight (I also call BS on this) go to FW space, I never have a problem finding a fight there.

Gonna bump until thread locked...

This guy is Grade A Dedicated material guys - a frustrated carebear on a mission. Not from an agent, with which he can use eve-survival, but from a higher power. Himself. Will he write his own wikia on the experiences for more to follow? We'll find out.

I have never been shot at by an AFK cloaked player.

AFK Cloaking - for weeks... is broken...

AFK cloak does not help create combat.

AFK cloakers are a myth made up to get cloaking nerfed. Let me ask you something? Have YOU ever actually seen an AFK cloaker?

What exactly is the issue with "AFK cloakers", dear OP?

If they're afk then they're no threat are they?

Every time I hear someone say this-



I think of all the times my brother "walked into" my fist face first.

Ah, to be young again.

Also there needs to be a counter to the AFK cloakie..

Every time I hear someone say this-



I think of all the times my brother "walked into" my fist face first.

Ah, to be young again.

I hear that CCP whines about dropping a billion cans on the gate to keep cloakies moving thru system decloaked.

Any confirmation of that crap?


Also there needs to be a counter to the AFK cloakie..

Hot droppers are cool, no issue there.

I do have issue with the asshats that take 5+ alts and and afk camp entire constellations for weeks.

I want a fight, I dont want to sit around flying in pvp ship under the threat of combat, when these "uber pee vee pee"'ers wont engage me unless I'm not in in ANY pvp ship...

This is very same problems i try resolve as well. this is hack of game mechanic and violation of agreement for players to not grieve others. I have asked to whether this could be legal issue or not and await response

For what I know the issue is not dropping cans to decloack, this is not itself a violation. Is about creating lag.
If they (CCP) evaluate some action (in this case dropping cans) is done to create lag or anyway results in lag creation they may step in.

what are you talk about cans?? is not issue with cans is issue with cloaker who does nothing but disrupt legitimate gameplays and violate griefer tactics

stay on topic or silence!

I will believe afk cloaking to be a problem when people in low and high sec start crying about it too. So far it appears that afk cloakers are entirely a phenomenon that ends life as null bears know it. It also never seems to be any of the null pvp-oriented alliances who cry about it either, just ratters and miners who are pissed when they get ganked in badly fit pve ships.

pretty much null bears be crying love them tears by the way. best part is there is no way for them to stop me

See.....all we want all a few simple tools

I have a number of solutions that may or may not have been mentioned.

There are plenty of tools, and a lot of them are making whiny posts about AFK cloakers and how the system is "broken" when it isn't.

Nothing new.

Do you realise just how long whiny nullbears have been crying about AFK cloaking and posting the same tired, broken ideas for "solutions" to a problem that only exists due to their own ineptitude and cowardice?

Ultimately it all boils down to "hay let us scan down cloakers i'm skurred". Always, without fail.

HTFU or go back to highsec.

It is not the AFK cloaker that you need to be worried about, But rather the cloaker that is not AFK.

AFK Cloaker griefer should results in permanent ban from EVE.

Grief causing can make serious medical issue in stress for other player and against international cyber bully law

Countering AFK Clockers

Minimize local, if you can't see them they won't bother you.

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I almost didn't see you there.

u can't stop me lol.

Please educate me bro cause I don't know of anyway to detect a cloaked ship other than to accidently bump into them.

See that window called local? That one. That lets you detect their presence in system 100% of the time with 100% accuracy for absolutely free.

Wait, you want MORE than that? You want to remove absolutely every little bit of uncertainty and risk there is in nullsec?

Sorry, nope!

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Did I say I wanted all risk removed? DID I?? DIIIIIDDDDD IIIIIII?????? NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! you pompous troll, i did not!

Not directly, but calls to be able to find cloaked ships, or to determine whether they're afk, are by definition the removal of uncertainty and risk in nullsec.

Since local is currently extremely overpowered and a resident of a system can warp off and "get safe" before an adversary has even finished loading into system, the only options left are prolonged cloaking. If you nerf that ability, you remove ALL uncertainty and risk.

Of course, no one directly says "remove all uncertainty and risk", they are dishonest about it and make elaborate smokescreens. I'm here to expose the truth.

*waah* local ruins my chance at ganking people because they see me coming, are active at their PC and warp away swiftly *waah* I want a way to make it so they have no choice but to be engaged in combat by a PvP ready pilot, and anything they say against that make them weak *waah*

Here is a possible solution to afk cloakers

When a ship cloaks they also "cloak" in the local list. Then you don't know they are there and it's not a problem anymore.

Damn, this clocking problem must be serious... its about time someone did something... its fairly widespread, so its not like its a minute problem.

Just hit snooze for a while and wait for the problem to be fixed? Watch the gates and wait for them?

Nah, I'm out, I got nothin' else...



Edit: gotta hand it to these clockers, though, they're efficient.

find out who the afk cloaker is...

if they are in a neutral corp... find out who they fly with and camp their null sec.
if they got multiple systems send more afk cloakers.

Here is a possible solution to afk cloakers

When a ship cloaks they also "cloak" in the local list. Then you don't know they are there and it's not a problem anymore.

AFK Cloaking - for weeks... is broken...

So? Its still a problem.

AFK cloak does not help create combat.