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Annie 46947	Posted - 2006.01.01 21:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Annie 46947 on 01/01/2006 21:36:39 My rational: Sport. Utility. Vehicle. Ok, utility I can see. You go out haul around a new television set in teh back of your Explorer. Or you go fishing in your Nissan Xterra. You can haul, secure, move people, go offroading. This is good utility. But Sport? Exactly WTF is sporty about a 7,000 pound Ford Excursion? They handle poorly, accelerate poorly, brake poorly, they're top heavy, they get HORRIBLE gas milage. This is some kind of bad joke. Sure theres about 3 exceptions ...these also came along something like a decade after the headcases came up with this particular marketing fraud. I imagine you could argue taking your SUV fishing is sports. Thats some serious symantic BS in my book. Noone thinks fishing when they think sports car. Its some hollow attempt at justifying the largest marketing conjob in history. So I was wondering. Is it possible to sue all the major auto-manufacturers for fraud? - i removed a bit from teh middle. It was off topic. FIGHT!
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.01 21:44:00 - [2] This reminds me of an old political cartoon I saw a while back. It showed a twisting highway with billboards to the sides of it. The billboards had pictures of SUVs out in the great outdoors, on rocks, meadows, etc, with slogans like "Born to Be Wild," etc. Then on the highway was a long line of SUVs all stopped in traffic. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Wrayeth	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:07:00 - [3] For the "sport" part, people take them off-roading. Of course, more people never do anything of the sort with their SUV, too... -Wrayeth Go away.
TauTut	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:09:00 - [4] I don't understand this .. it seems like the automobile version of peanut* envy. You have a big car .. I'll have a big car. Let's take up twice the road space burning up more fuel than we really need and run every other ferker off the road. You'll never catch me driving a tank when an austin mini will do. In the UK - things are congested enough on the roads without this kind of crap. SUVS .. I hate em. -TT
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:12:00 - [5] I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Hunter Lightspeed	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:15:00 - [6] It¦s just the security feeling u get from driving an above avrage sized car most ppl are after imo. This whole trend is just stupid and silly, but what can u expect when the idTa was born in the US?
MaxPower	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:21:00 - [7] haha the 'canyonaro' from the simpsons springs to mind Inappropriate Signature Image Removed - Imaran
Hunter Lightspeed	Posted - 2006.01.01 22:26:00 - [8] Originally by: MaxPower haha the 'canyonaro' from the simpsons springs to mind LMAO that song was actually rather good, anyone know if someone made a mp3 out of it?
Hellraiza666	Posted - 2006.01.01 23:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. you would hav a heart attack abt Jeremy clarkson driving to work in his ford gt then he has fill up on the way cuz his car does 70miles on full tank and he lives 74 miles away -------------------------------------------- In War There Are No Runners Up...
Dak Hakin	Posted - 2006.01.01 23:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Hunter Lightspeed It¦s just the security feeling u get from driving an above avrage sized car most ppl are after imo. This whole trend is just stupid and silly, but what can u expect when the idTa was born in the US? Funny how some people can turn anything into a US bashing thing... _______________________________________________ If you fear the thorn, do not crave the rose Mr. Grumpy-sour-pus
Sentani	Posted - 2006.01.01 23:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Dak Hakin Funny how some people can turn anything into a US bashing thing... this is ofcourse without reason ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.
Filan	Posted - 2006.01.02 01:36:00 - [12] what i want to know is why does something like the BMW X5 or the mercedes M-Class say "Not for Offroad Use" in the manual, how the hell can an SUV not be for offroad use when thats one of the reasons for having 4WD. my Chevy S-10 offroads just fine and its 10 years old, kinda silly when a 2006 BMW X5 says it cant in the manual.
R3 1D	Posted - 2006.01.02 01:47:00 - [13] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. you would hav a heart attack abt Jeremy clarkson driving to work in his ford gt then he has fill up on the way cuz his car does 70miles on full tank and he lives 74 miles away You'd probably also love the time he smashed the crap out of a Toyota Landcruiser (although they did still get it to work in the end) (Yes, my main account is broken)
Bhaal	Posted - 2006.01.02 02:06:00 - [14] Edited by: Bhaal on 02/01/2006 02:06:25 Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. I drive to work everyday in a 4WD pickup with a 5.7 liter engine, I do it because I can... P.S. I wanted the 7.4 liter engine when I bought my truck, but their were none available, maybe my next truck will have one ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Nuala Reece	Posted - 2006.01.02 06:59:00 - [15] It was a tax dodge, pure and simple, from what I read. Farming vehicles, like trucks, are exempt from some tax in the US - so the manufacturers get to make them cheaper by using a truck chassis with a different body on it. And then sell for the same inflated prices as ordinary road vehicles. After that it was just clever marketting helped ably along by sheep-like consumer mentality, and the roads are full of pointless, environmentally unsound SUVs. But that's the point of marketing - to sell us stuff we don't need at any cost. I'm with Bill Hicks on the marketing issue Originally by: Hicks By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there's no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers, Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no fcking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fcked and you are fcking us. Kill yourself. It's the only way to save your fcking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, "he's doing a joke..." there's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fcking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend - I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fcking machinations. I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, "Oh, you know what Bill's doing, he's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart." Oh man, I am not doing that. You fcking evil scumbags! "Ooh, you know what Bill's doing now, he's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We've done research - huge market. He's doing a good thing." Godammit, I'm not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every fcking thing on this planet! "Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that." God, I'm just caught in a fcking web! "Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar..." How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fcking babies at night, don't you?" So kind of on the cynical side there Be Free Starlancers
Logan Xerxes	Posted - 2006.01.02 07:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Nuala Reece It was a tax dodge, pure and simple, from what I read. Farming vehicles, like trucks, are exempt from some tax in the US - so the manufacturers get to make them cheaper by using a truck chassis with a different body on it. And then sell for the same inflated prices as ordinary road vehicles. After that it was just clever marketting helped ably along by sheep-like consumer mentality, and the roads are full of pointless, environmentally unsound SUVs. But that's the point of marketing - to sell us stuff we don't need at any cost. I'm with Bill Hicks on the marketing issue Originally by: Hicks By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there's no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers, Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no fcking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fcked and you are fcking us. Kill yourself. It's the only way to save your fcking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, "he's doing a joke..." there's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fcking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend - I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fcking machinations. I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, "Oh, you know what Bill's doing, he's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart." Oh man, I am not doing that. You fcking evil scumbags! "Ooh, you know what Bill's doing now, he's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We've done research - huge market. He's doing a good thing." Godammit, I'm not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every fcking thing on this planet! "Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that." God, I'm just caught in a fcking web! "Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar..." How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fcking babies at night, don't you?" So kind of on the cynical side there QFT Originally by: Balrog Valarauko Iknew a guy back in high school that was from Romania I think. His name was Anus. No joke...poor kid.[/qu
JeanLuc Picarde	Posted - 2006.01.02 08:39:00 - [17] could we kindly get off the US bashing? please? thanks.
Noden Vorpalstar	Posted - 2006.01.02 09:02:00 - [18] Originally by: JeanLuc Picarde could we kindly get off the US bashing? please? thanks. QFT and signed
Lorette	Posted - 2006.01.02 09:06:00 - [19] Well not to add to the american bashing, but unless im mistaken they are the only people who produce cars the size of small houses, every now and then i see a chevy thats so big it nearly takes up more than one lane of our roads. They are honestly 1.5x the size of cars made anywhere else. The reason is the american culture in general is ....larger in size than the norm and so they need larger cars, and as someone before stated theres a mentailty that a larger car is more safe than a small one...which isnt really true. No american bashing there, just the truth.
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2006.01.02 09:09:00 - [20] The US is the symbol of the western world, so bashing of the western world naturally slaps the US in the face. Of course, it is not America's fault that Sweden is importing American culture and ideals, but I still. Cars overall are bull**** (not just SUVs), and too bad for the US, they are the face of the automobile evolution despite how the rest of the world contributed pretty much the same to history. I suppose that is the price to pay for being the loudest parrot in the cage...
Quaren	Posted - 2006.01.02 10:21:00 - [21] Well they I read an article about the Porche SUV where they tested it and asked the question: "What is the purpose of this car?" what they concluded was that since you had to buy extra equipment for more then +200% the cost of the original car for it to even be able to go slightly offroad, the thing they could say in its defence and the only thing it had going for it was that it had increased Porches profit in Sweden by 300%.
Sentani	Posted - 2006.01.02 10:37:00 - [22] Edited by: Sentani on 02/01/2006 10:42:14 its funny how the SUV/largecar owners whine about the gas prices... they have brougth it on themselfs... and the "becouse i can" argument just speaks volumes about your inteligense... ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.02 10:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. you would hav a heart attack abt Jeremy clarkson driving to work in his ford gt then he has fill up on the way cuz his car does 70miles on full tank and he lives 74 miles away jeremy clarkson is a tosser, tell me something i don't know
TauTut	Posted - 2006.01.02 10:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Filan what i want to know is why does something like the BMW X5 or the mercedes M-Class say "Not for Offroad Use" in the manual, how the hell can an SUV not be for offroad use when thats one of the reasons for having 4WD. my Chevy S-10 offroads just fine and its 10 years old, kinda silly when a 2006 BMW X5 says it cant in the manual. lma lil ao !! Well that plus the spray on mud that you can buy now says a lot about how dumb the whole thing is. Anyway ... what we really need are Jetpacks -TT
Coconut Joe	Posted - 2006.01.02 11:30:00 - [25] You got to admit that its fascinating how good those marketing types are. They've got people thinking that attacking the idea of SUVs is attacking the idea of America. My neighbour has an SUV, and im in the suburbs of London, UK. I like to call him 'berk' in an effectionate voice. Anyways, this SUV thing is just a trend, it'll start dieing out as the oil prices start getting higher and higher. ---- Nifty
Sentani	Posted - 2006.01.02 11:34:00 - [26] lets hope so atleast... it may become a status symbol tho... "i can drive this gas gussler becouse i have more money then you and dont give a **** about anything besides myself" ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.
Hellraiza666	Posted - 2006.01.02 12:02:00 - [27] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. you would hav a heart attack abt Jeremy clarkson driving to work in his ford gt then he has fill up on the way cuz his car does 70miles on full tank and he lives 74 miles away jeremy clarkson is a tosser, tell me something i don't know -------------------------------------------- In War There Are No Runners Up...
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.02 12:05:00 - [28] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: Dark Shikari I never understand why people drive to work every day in an SUV. Its a complete waste of gas and makes no sense whatsoever. you would hav a heart attack abt Jeremy clarkson driving to work in his ford gt then he has fill up on the way cuz his car does 70miles on full tank and he lives 74 miles away jeremy clarkson is a tosser, tell me something i don't know
MaxPower	Posted - 2006.01.02 12:13:00 - [29] Canyonero! Hold ctrl press f (this opens up a 'find' function) Type Canyonero Quality! Inappropriate Signature Image Removed - Imaran
My grandfather	Posted - 2006.01.02 16:37:00 - [30] My uncle recently bought a real old-timer range rover. The thing is ***** huge. It swallows more then double the gas I spend driving, so he put it on LPG. Works perfectly, is cheaper and doesn't use that much. I've even read on the internet that they are working on a hydrogen SUV. Personally, I just like the look and confort of an SUV. American or not, I don't give a **.

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