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sim2killa
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Posted - 2003.08.20 05:48:00 -
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i was ferrying in korama with my fellow corp members when this guy named turrak just startung to steal are ore and because of the new patch we couldnt fight back and kill him or fend him off.
yes i know we could buy secure cans but why waste the money there ok but there hold is a bit small for there price especially when we mined over 60million in ore today and didnt have much trouble with lotters till about 515 eve time then the trouble started saddly. i think there should be something done about these vile inhuman players of eve.
or atleast give us the ablity to kill the people stealling from are can;s or make a much bigger can for ore like 10000 that fits in a 6000 or 7500 cargo
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Talak Relketh
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Posted - 2003.08.20 05:54:00 -
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Unfortunately, that's the price you pay for not using secure cans 
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MAXIUM MINING
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Posted - 2003.08.20 05:57:00 -
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My solution has always been to get a buddy. We get into Kestrels and load 4 cruise missiles each. One ship with EM, other with Exp. I fire my missiles and then get jammed and blown away and he then fires his. And the dumb n00b in the indy dies. If you wanna be extra cruel have a third friend to kill the pod.
Kestrels are worth nothing. Any thing is more then enough firepwr to take out an indy of any class. Cops don't jam till you fire your fire shot. For a kestrel thats about 1000 dmg with skills. Idiots always ignor frigs and ore jackers feel safe in empire space. For some reason they always demand you replace their ship.
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Turrak
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:00:00 -
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I love ore.
Ore Inspection Team 1
Surveyor of fine ores.
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Leon Aerie
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:01:00 -
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yes, ore is nice!
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:07:00 -
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figures that 2 thieves would responed to my thread
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Woda Hszan
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:12:00 -
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As in all games of this type, where player have to gather something. There are always other players who are to lazy to gather them selves and would rather just loot or kill for it.
Just look at Ultima Online for an example.
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ChaosTEK
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: ChaosTEK on 20/08/2003 06:37:59
Get some of them huge secure containers. They hold around 3500 each. Dump as much of them around as you need.... problem solved.
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2003.08.20 06:55:00 -
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do they work now or are the big cans still bugged?
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BlindFury
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Posted - 2003.08.20 07:03:00 -
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too bad so sad, next time use a secure container.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.20 07:12:00 -
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Stealing from others gives them a sadistic pleasure...
The *****ing, the whining, the crying the angry clenched fist waving up and down, the verble threats..ahhh. 
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Garreck
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Posted - 2003.08.20 07:36:00 -
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There are a couple of things one can do to help with security status: be on good terms with a good agent and buy back security status or go to low security space and hunt NPC's for a while. Having established that security status is easy enough to fix...
If anybody steals your stuff, blast 'em. Just make sure you can get the heck out before CONCORD comes in and ruins your righteous fury.
Garreck
Aeternus Crusade
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:14:00 -
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". For some reason they always demand you replace their ship.
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They really do that?
The nerve of some people
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chayneic
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:23:00 -
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Turrak lost his Indy in Pen tonight. Justice was at least served temporarily.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:24:00 -
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Turrak = Ywev.
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Vierna Hu'Net
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:30:00 -
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Have secondary "bad" characters most of the time we have no problems, but i know that Home World Tech has some players with secondary accounts who have "bad" characters, they jump the belt and shoot the thief then relog to their "good" characters again!
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yarr
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:30:00 -
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people steal ore because it's legal, easy, and unless you pick on someone with a big set o' balls, there are no repurcussions.
-Get a load of large secure containers
-Be less greedy, return to base more
-Kill them and run
-ignore them, and lose your ore
-log off, and come back when they're sleeping
-stabs thems in their eyeses
These are your options. If I were you, I'd start at the top and work your way down.
and asking for a +40% cargo container is laughable. don't even.
If all these options fail, don't hesitate to supply me with your location. I guarantee those guys won't get your ore*.
*before I do.
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:45:00 -
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This is why you make an alt with a combat frigate. When theres an ore theif about kill him and his pod.. sure concord come in and kill your poor little frigate but no big deal. The Alt takes the sec hit and the ore theif looses his ship and isk for a clone and with any luck a whole load of skills and items.
When they demand their ship back its a simple case of demand all the ore hes ever stolen back :)
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Ganymedes
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Posted - 2003.08.20 08:57:00 -
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The sudden increase in ore thieves is caused by well-known pirates using alts to steal ore, probably out of boredom or some sort of twisted lameness.
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Loupdinour
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Posted - 2003.08.20 14:16:00 -
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Vierna Hu'Net, from what I've seen, we haven't bothered to log on alts to do our justice to theives, we just take the hit on the shoulder and let it go. Since we are out in 0.0 space 90% of our time, low sec status for killing a thief is no biggie. Gimmie a gun, tell me who to shoot and I'll comply.
Just my comment/opinions, not that of Homeworld Technologies.
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.08.20 14:48:00 -
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MMORPG's at there best imitate life. Eve does this better than most I have seen. We have all different types in this game and that is what makes it interesting.
Most of us would never in RL think about being pirates and thieves, it not something most people do in polite society. But ingame we can explore our darker selves and have fun doing it.
In most of the rpg's I have played I have been the palidan type of charactor. Defender of the weak aand all that jazz. Granted there are all medival settings and fit my personality.
Eve is different. For one thing it most closely imatates life today. Trading, markets corperations, etc. I'm very successfully in my business but I do everything above board.
So when playing this game I want to do something out of charactor, I'm a rouge. I may steal your ore cans or I may defend you from ore stealing pirates, whatever suits my fancy. I may camp a gate and ask for tolls or I may help clear a blockade.
The one thing I don't want to see are more restrictions though. If you want to be safe in mining use secure containers or more indies. If you are worried about blockades get a escort. There is so much more that when can do with this game than is commonly done now. Let the game breath and I think everyone will have much more fun.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.08.20 15:12:00 -
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Best solution for right now, is to mine in lower security places 0.4 or less. We have killed 5-6 people so far for approaching the cans in past 2 months.
Secure can is not an option if you're a fast miner, because you can strip mine the field pretty quick and you have to keep dropping new containes as you move on. There is no way to destroy the secure cans, I could only imagine what the asteroid belt would look like, it would probably cause allot of lag.
It sux for the new players, so I am sure CCP will do something about it.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.20 16:48:00 -
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Other than securing the new huge/giant containers, they won't do anything. They don't have to. Ore thieving only occurs when people try to use jettison cans to do massive amounts of mining on their own, and don't have a hauler to run it back to base.
If you mine fast, then giving someone a cut of your profit will hurt less.
the only other thing I can see CCP doing is putting the hacking skill/tools/etc. in, so people can start thieving again.
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Loupdinour
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Posted - 2003.08.20 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Loupdinour on 20/08/2003 16:50:56
Good post/opinions Turtle. Unfortunatly there aren;t enough people who can make contructive critisizm or adapt in this game. The majority it seems are one of two extreemists:
"Carebears" wanting to be able to play the game in complete safety and
"Whiners" who want CCP to make the game how they want it since they pay for it, forgetting there are other people's opinions out there.
The people who don't fit into those two catagories are the ones who understand that this is CCP's game and they will change it how they wish into what they wish the game to be.
IMHO the Carebears should go play single-player games or a MMPOG that has non-PvP servers and hope people don't use exploits on them. The Whiners should go create their own computer game/join the CS team of Eve to show us all how it is done.
Back to what this thread was created for. Simple fact, if you wish to mine quickly, you loose security of your ore. You have to make a comprimize at some point. For the anti-gate camping people, like Turtle said, get an escourt before you advance into unsafe territory (yes that means you cant be all alone and take all the profit, life sucks move on).
For all those who wish to "overthrow the mods", go make another messege board to go gripe on. The rules are set forth by CCP and the people at Polaris follw them, so stop being on thier case.
To the people complaining about customer support, petition in a calm matter with as much USEFUL information as you can and try to show how to repeat the problem. But before that even happens, look and see on the boards if it is already been brought to everyone's attention and is being worked on.
And Finally, to those who make seperate threads on a subject already being discussed, prepair for it to get locked and you have a link shown to you as to where to post it. You create more and more crap threads and you are keeping Polaris away from doing what they should be doing (which btw ISN'T to babysit you).
All you Anti-Mods people, be lucky I am not a Polaris Mod. If so, I'd make them all look like nice people and I'd be one hella iron-fisted Mod. I would be enforcing the 3 strike rule...if I have to lock 3 threads of yours that have repeataly have broken forum rules, you would be banned. Be lucky al lthat has been happening so far are thread locks/deletions and you haven't been banned from the forums and/or the game itself for the way you conduct yourselves here.
My lunch-break is over and I have no way to end this so, continue your lives and be happy all 
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:00:00 -
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The truth is that it's not actually stealing if you don't have a secure can. The Devs have been clear on this. Anything you jettison is free for anyone's taking. It's like putting a couch in front of the trash dumpster. It's especially dumb to mine to a jettisoned can in high sec space. There is so much for you to lose other than your ore if you try to retaliate. If you want to do the mine to a can thing, do it in lower sec systems without much traffic.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Lysithea
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:23:00 -
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The fact is: stealing from a container that does not belong to you or your corp is (or should be) a crime.
Realistically, the coding for that kind of logic would be difficult. If you made thievery a crime punishable by Concord, you would likely see Concord vessels firing upon people who have been hired to haul ore. If anything, they should find a way to allow players to shoot thieves without Concord getting invloved.
The logic rule would be: if Player A takes material from a cargo container belonging to Corp B, then anyone in Corp B can legally shoot Player A. If Player A is a member or friend of Corp B, then no shots would be fired for obvious reasons. If Player A is a true thief, then he gets shot and Concord doesn't get involved.
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Alain Josviar
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:24:00 -
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Let me guess, at one time you had a higher level frigate with 2 miner 1's and no offensive weapons mounted on it?
Dumping mined ore to an unlocked container floating around in space is like leaving your wallet full of money sitting in the middle of a homeless shelter. Don't be shocked when you return to find it empty.
Asinine.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:45:00 -
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Its called salvage rights. Anyting floating unsecured in space is free loot and free for the taking. Buy a secure container or get a big indy to keep your ore in.
Of course if you mine in 0.0 space and "salvage" some ore that a big corp thinks they have a claim to you might have a problem. You might even find yourself waking up in a clone vatt or at the very least getting to know the inside of your escape pod a little better.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zakura on 20/08/2003 17:46:10
is it really that much ore thieves? .. where are u mining? .. If u are in 0.8 and lower there is pirates, not many n00bs go there, they are in 1.0 .. Ore thieves have steal from my can 2 times, 2 diffrent guys.. We almost killed one of them, the concord blew our thorax's though.. but.. that guy didnt steal anymore - and the other guy also got podded.. and didnt steal anymore.. So wtf - kill them! 
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Pradoker
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Posted - 2003.08.20 17:57:00 -
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Just hire SuperDeep Haulers Corp. I would be glad to help you transport your ore to safe location for a % of the profits. I have a bestower and can lend you large secure containters (extra charge.) to keep it safe.
Ingame name Pradoker.
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