Oracle
- Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed and 7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range per level.
- 95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Energy Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Energy Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

- Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.
- 95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets 40% reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers 58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers

Talos
- Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level.
- 95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Tornado
- Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret Rate of Fire and 10% bonus to Large Projectile Turret falloff per level.
- 95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Projectile Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Projectile Turrets

Would this be a bad time to mention the Paladin and the Kronos?

Game Fixed.

Now, even if you disagree with this point, i sill think its unfair the Talos is the only of the four that receives ewar bonuses

web range = minmatar

web strength = gallente

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Well, some of it fixed...

Anyway, OP, problem? Go QQ in your FOTM glass, I want some muthafucking web strength on my slow-ass hulls.

Oh a WOW thing. You know whats funny about your insult, is i've literally played about 30 minutes of WoW (and never went back) Yet you are the one who's making references to WoW items. Go back to your fairys and goblins, kid

Oh a WOW thing. You know whats funny about your insult, is i've literally played about 30 minutes of WoW (and never went back) Yet you are the one who's making references to WoW items. Go back to your fairys and goblins, kid

FOTM glass?

Oh a WOW thing. You know whats funny about your insult, is i've literally played about 30 minutes of WoW (and never went back) Yet you are the one who's making references to WoW items. Go back to your fairys and goblins, kid

how is FOTM a "wow thing"? are you some kind of idiot?

I was hoping there would be others who saw these bonuses as in need of tweaking. I really dont want to see the Rapier and Huginn get shoved aside for a gallente ship.

With it's fall off bonus to large guns combined with it's speed advantage, the Tornado should have the edge over the short range though powerful webs of the Talos unless the Talos can warp right on top of the Tornado.

Internet meme's can be confusing, best just to avoid them and avoid commenting on them whenever possible.

Yeah but what does it matter if the tornado has to fight outside of point range? Its enemy can simply leave. While Gallente's version has the ability to 'do it all', high damage, high tackle, all in the same package.

If hybrids suck so bad then why not give the caldari bc a similar bonus?

FOTM glass?

Oh a WOW thing. You know whats funny about your insult, is i've literally played about 30 minutes of WoW (and never went back) Yet you are the one who's making references to WoW items. Go back to your fairys and goblins, kid

Slight Tangent... Does ths mean we'll be able to fit a rack of Tachs on a bc...?

Because Webs are useless on a Rail Boat.

then how about a target painter bonus to go along with the torps?

or give the oracle a neut bonus

Because Webs are useless on a Rail Boat.

and a web range bonus on the Tornado.

Now, even if you disagree with this point, i sill think its unfair the Talos is the only of the four that receives ewar bonuses

Swap the web bonus to 5% tracking bonus or even 7.5% to match the megathron's bonus.

Or remove Talos drones and nerf base speed so it can't break 2.4km/s with ease.

Web/Target Painters have always been a minmatar ewar bonus. Gallente have traditionally always gotten bonuses to their point ranges and sensor damps....

Please keep the ewar seperated. The pirate faction ships have mixed some of these abilities (obviously because they are intended to be a mixture of technology from the two empires) but these tier3 ships, from what i understand, are not Pirate ships and should not be mixing bonuses from other races

meh

I dont consider my post to be 'whining'.

Web range bonus would be much more useful

web range = minmatar

web strength = gallente

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Web range bonus would be much more useful but yes it would kinda make the minmatar recons somewhat obsolete in fleets if it was put on the talos, as it stands, Talos is great for screwing ceptors, Rapier is great for catching stuff running back to gates or trying to run away.

Seems to work fine!

I don't see the problem here, just get close and face-melt.

I'm pretty sure this is so minmatar can't pull of their old trick of going "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'LL NEVER HIT ME!!!!!" and orbiting the new battlecruisers at 500m in ridiculously fast ships. Weak tank on the new BC means that they need to make up for it by HITTING the minmatar bastards with those new big guns.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'LL NEVER HIT ME!!!!!"

olololololololololl seen proposed design of talos ? glad im amarr hahah good luck with the ugliest gallente ship yet. i say this because regardless of what the attributes say the ships image has alot to do with it's popularity (especially amongst gallente dog scum) it looks like the worst possible combination of a Ratrod and a Toaster oven, (that was subsequently impregnated by a typewriter) argue all you want about bonuses... what i want to know is when is the art director getting fired and can his replacement please design the amarr ship thank you.

Anyways, this is not fair. Gallente's tier3 is the only one with any ewar bonuses, and its a minmatar ewar bonus.

why not add a role bonus so that the guns have lower sig resolution (from 400 to 300) and then replace the web strenght bonus for a tracking bonus like on the mega...

that way both rails and blasters can take advantage of the ships bonus...

I highly doubt a T1 gank BC is going to replace two T2 recons...

Especially since people take those recons specifically for the range bonus, rather than strength.