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Sakkar Arenith PIE Inc. 0	Posted - 2011.10.29 11:12:00 - [1] - Quote Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 65	Posted - 2011.10.29 11:27:00 - [2] - Quote Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers Have you ever done sanctums with ships throwing tons of torpedoes on you ship? - sure that "large" gfx is silly, plus get rid of it would just help hamsters from both sides
Pattern Clarc Aperture Harmonics 210	Posted - 2011.10.29 11:39:00 - [3] - Quote +1 Yep. Weapon hit effects are sorely needing a revamp. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Large Collidable Object morons. 454	Posted - 2011.10.29 12:40:00 - [4] - Quote Yes - they always were horrible - I remember back when I started, I didn't even get what they were supposed to depict... morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding!
Dave Kaplinski School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.29 13:54:00 - [5] - Quote +1
Samroski Games Inc. EVE Trade Consortium 6	Posted - 2011.10.29 14:32:00 - [6] - Quote Sakkar Arenith wrote: i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? Cheers Strange how tastes differ. I love the torpedo hit effect, and hope CCP never change it :)
Roosterton Eternal Frontier 121	Posted - 2011.10.29 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote I find it ridiculous how torps have bigger explosions than citadel torps.
Zendoren Aktaeon Industries The Black Armada 25	Posted - 2011.10.29 14:45:00 - [8] - Quote Roosterton wrote: I find it ridiculous how torps have bigger explosions than citadel torps.
Generals4 260	Posted - 2011.10.29 14:52:00 - [9] - Quote Samroski wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? Cheers Strange how tastes differ. I love the torpedo hit effect, and hope CCP never change it :) *-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.*
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 167	Posted - 2011.10.29 16:23:00 - [10] - Quote Well torpdedos do have dumb warheads and have an uncontrolled explosions so by all means its explosion should always be larger than a cruiser missiles smart warhead.
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 37	Posted - 2011.10.29 16:24:00 - [11] - Quote Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something.
Hershman G-Weezy 36	Posted - 2011.10.29 16:48:00 - [12] - Quote I was just wondering about this two days ago. Would be nice to get an update for those textures.
Veronica Kerrigan Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY 2	Posted - 2011.10.29 16:56:00 - [13] - Quote Generals4 wrote: Samroski wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? Cheers Strange how tastes differ. I love the torpedo hit effect, and hope CCP never change it :) not empty quoting an empty quote. I love the torpedo effect.
trexinatux Bipedal Carnivore Club 12	Posted - 2011.10.29 17:42:00 - [14] - Quote Yay, new explosions please. Also, everyone keep asking, maybe we'll get it soon. I support anything that beautifies Eve. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
mkint 216	Posted - 2011.10.29 17:56:00 - [15] - Quote JC Anderson wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.)
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 37	Posted - 2011.10.29 18:04:00 - [16] - Quote mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.) Hell if I know.. I'm clueless to this sort of stuff... Just did a few searches and found this though, but no idea if it applies to this convo. It's about plasma explosive propulsion in space or something. A bomb with a cylinder of reaction mass expands into a flat, disk-shaped wave of plasma when it explodes. A bomb with a disk-shaped reaction mass expands into a far more efficient cigar-shaped wave of plasma debris. The cigar shape focuses much of the plasma to impinge onto the pusher-plate. The maximum effective specific impulse, Isp, of an Orion nuclear pulse drive generally is equal to: I_{sp} = \frac{C_0 \cdot V_e}{g_n}
Flakey Foont Republic University Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2011.10.29 18:08:00 - [17] - Quote I like it...
mkint 218	Posted - 2011.10.29 18:41:00 - [18] - Quote JC Anderson wrote: mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.) Hell if I know.. I'm clueless to this sort of stuff... Just did a few searches and found this though, but no idea if it applies to this convo. It's about plasma explosive propulsion in space or something. A bomb with a cylinder of reaction mass expands into a flat, disk-shaped wave of plasma when it explodes. A bomb with a disk-shaped reaction mass expands into a far more efficient cigar-shaped wave of plasma debris. The cigar shape focuses much of the plasma to impinge onto the pusher-plate. The maximum effective specific impulse, Isp, of an Orion nuclear pulse drive generally is equal to: I_{sp} = \frac{C_0 \cdot V_e}{g_n} Why would you intentionally make any weapon explosive round? Especially one that wants to punch through thick shields, armor, and hull. Even we with our primitive technology make RPG's with a focused blast to punch through more than a foot of steel. And they do NOT explode in a ring (1:28).
Mehrdad Kor-Azor Viziam Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2011.10.29 18:52:00 - [19] - Quote Speaking of torpedoes... Where's my Khanid Torpedo Abaddon???
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 55	Posted - 2011.10.29 18:55:00 - [20] - Quote mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.) Hell if I know.. I'm clueless to this sort of stuff... Just did a few searches and found this though, but no idea if it applies to this convo. It's about plasma explosive propulsion in space or something. A bomb with a cylinder of reaction mass expands into a flat, disk-shaped wave of plasma when it explodes. A bomb with a disk-shaped reaction mass expands into a far more efficient cigar-shaped wave of plasma debris. The cigar shape focuses much of the plasma to impinge onto the pusher-plate. The maximum effective specific impulse, Isp, of an Orion nuclear pulse drive generally is equal to: I_{sp} = \frac{C_0 \cdot V_e}{g_n} Why would you intentionally make any weapon explosive round? Especially one that wants to punch through thick shields, armor, and hull. Even we with our primitive technology make RPG's with a focused blast to punch through more than a foot of steel. And they do NOT explode in a ring (1:28). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous-rod_warhead
mkint 218	Posted - 2011.10.29 19:01:00 - [21] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.) Hell if I know.. I'm clueless to this sort of stuff... Just did a few searches and found this though, but no idea if it applies to this convo. It's about plasma explosive propulsion in space or something. A bomb with a cylinder of reaction mass expands into a flat, disk-shaped wave of plasma when it explodes. A bomb with a disk-shaped reaction mass expands into a far more efficient cigar-shaped wave of plasma debris. The cigar shape focuses much of the plasma to impinge onto the pusher-plate. The maximum effective specific impulse, Isp, of an Orion nuclear pulse drive generally is equal to: I_{sp} = \frac{C_0 \cdot V_e}{g_n} Why would you intentionally make any weapon explosive round? Especially one that wants to punch through thick shields, armor, and hull. Even we with our primitive technology make RPG's with a focused blast to punch through more than a foot of steel. And they do NOT explode in a ring (1:28). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous-rod_warhead Good luck penetrating a 1600mm (about 5' thick) titanium plate with something like that.
Seleia O'Sinnor Arklight Project Fade 2 Black 5	Posted - 2011.10.29 20:47:00 - [22] - Quote Yes! The explosions of torpedoes look like a super nova. Please revamp them, ccp.
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 37	Posted - 2011.10.29 20:55:00 - [23] - Quote mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: mkint wrote: JC Anderson wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: Hi there, I was just wondering, whether the winter expansion will finally revamp the current explosion gfx of torpedoes. It seems to be a ill conceived remnant of the times when Missiles were supposed to do area damage, but since that has been long gone, i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? If nothing else, take the citadel explosions and shrink em down a bit and stick them on normal torpedoes. Cheers They are supposed to be nuclear... I guess they are just trying to show the shockwave or something. And exactly what kind of device makes a ring-shaped explosion? I watch a lot of Mythbusters, and have yet to see anything explode in a ring shape. Speaking of which, my favorite MythBusters explosion is a conflagration of natural gas (not an energetic explosion, but one so cool it looks like a special effect.) Hell if I know.. I'm clueless to this sort of stuff... Just did a few searches and found this though, but no idea if it applies to this convo. It's about plasma explosive propulsion in space or something. A bomb with a cylinder of reaction mass expands into a flat, disk-shaped wave of plasma when it explodes. A bomb with a disk-shaped reaction mass expands into a far more efficient cigar-shaped wave of plasma debris. The cigar shape focuses much of the plasma to impinge onto the pusher-plate. The maximum effective specific impulse, Isp, of an Orion nuclear pulse drive generally is equal to: I_{sp} = \frac{C_0 \cdot V_e}{g_n} Why would you intentionally make any weapon explosive round? Especially one that wants to punch through thick shields, armor, and hull. Even we with our primitive technology make RPG's with a focused blast to punch through more than a foot of steel. And they do NOT explode in a ring (1:28). Again, hell if I know! I was only pointing out the flat ring blast wave crap.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 151	Posted - 2011.10.29 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote Quote: Why would you intentionally make any weapon explosive round? Any sort of area of effect weapon, as opposed to one intending to penetrate a specific point. Of course, you are quite correct in that the traditional role of a torpedo is to penetrate a hull. I know that weapon effects are slated to be reworked, but I have no idea if that is going to include torpedo explosions. Hopefully it will include all missile explosions. Personally I hope that eventually we see some work done on making a shield effect visible when a weapon impacts it. Back when I used to do Homeworld mods we found that the secret with their engine was not to try and incorporate that kind of effect into the ship itself, but instead incorporate it into the hit effect that each weapon used. Probably not applicable in EVE however. To kill the enemy and break their toys! It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto.
Lorminator Cell 317 1	Posted - 2011.10.29 21:08:00 - [25] - Quote just swap the bomb and torpedo effects; then the effects match the warhead better...
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 37	Posted - 2011.10.29 21:13:00 - [26] - Quote Lorminator wrote: just swap the bomb and torpedo effects; then the effects match the warhead better... Not to bad of an idea actually.
Igualmentedos Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive 51	Posted - 2011.10.29 21:26:00 - [27] - Quote Veronica Kerrigan wrote: Generals4 wrote: Samroski wrote: Sakkar Arenith wrote: i wonder how long will we have to suffer from those GIGANTIC, UGLY onion rings, after a puny torpedo hit? Cheers Strange how tastes differ. I love the torpedo hit effect, and hope CCP never change it :) not empty quoting an empty quote. I love the torpedo effect. ^this
Yvan Ratamnim Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 21	Posted - 2011.10.29 21:31:00 - [28] - Quote Have to agree, werent we promised that the new gun effects were coming "soon" after the release of the turrets themselves? And thereby the explosion effects would also be coming i would think?
Sakkar Arenith PIE Inc. 7	Posted - 2011.10.30 13:47:00 - [29] - Quote Just to clarify, I am not bothered by the sound (lol eve has soud...) or the shape, or the praticular spin or future tech reasoning behind the torpedoes explosion effect. Even though its silly, and cliche.. What bothers me and most other people I reckon, is the fact that its HUMONGOUS!!!!111 The effects radius is like 60 kilometers, and that is just dumb. This , above all else, is what needs revamping.
Goodwill George For a fistful of Veldspar 0	Posted - 2011.10.30 14:27:00 - [30] - Quote mkint wrote: Good luck penetrating a 1600mm (about 5' thick) titanium plate with something like that. Comparing real-life to sci-fi crew checking in. Metal fattigue should do the job for you, if you blast the said plate repeatedly with nuclear warheads.

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