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Crellion	Posted - 2006.01.06 06:48:00 - [151] Please try to post sane and close to reasonable opinions in this thread. I read it all and was amazed. I am sorry that -v- command has effectively posted here that we are not to reply. I dont mind I get my fun in space. Good luck to all.
Bluestealth	Posted - 2006.01.06 07:18:00 - [152] Hi everyone, can people start scheduling things during late US time? k thanks :) lo Sir JoJo... and the others
DarkAgent	Posted - 2006.01.06 11:20:00 - [153] Edited by: DarkAgent on 06/01/2006 11:21:22 Edited by: DarkAgent on 06/01/2006 11:20:27 Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now. can you show any skrin ? i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses . here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader Well but LAG doesn't only occur to you, it's the same for everyone. I had the exactly same kind of lag in another battle with RA after we killed a pos (i think it was in qq3) and lost my ship. Yes of course it's near to unplayable, but it's not unfair. Maybe that Vid will make some developers think about that lag, allthough I doubt it.
el toppolino	Posted - 2006.01.06 11:27:00 - [154] well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.01.06 11:46:00 - [155] Hmmm reading this loooong tread I tought that a declaration of war from -V- was on the way ... but nothing appeared in my eve mail
DjDangle	Posted - 2006.01.06 11:47:00 - [156] Originally by: DeadDuck Hmmm reading this loooong tread I tought that a declaration of war from -V- was on the way ... but nothing appeared in my eve mail Whats the point in wasting isk, neither of our sides spend much time if any in empire. "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
Dak Torin	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:21:00 - [157] Im sure we could make the war mutal.
Omeega	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:36:00 - [158] well i'd like to add something. Lag will be terrible for the one jumping in (we had those kind of problems with HF) while the lag for the ones jumped will be minimal. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Omeega	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:37:00 - [159] Originally by: el toppolino Edited by: el toppolino on 06/01/2006 11:33:30 well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P and btw corak: i have never ever seen such an incorrect killboard as the on of red alliance. i miss about half of the lossmails if not even more (note: this is not smack) ravens have EW nowadays. Corak does what we all do. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Siobhan Ni	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:38:00 - [160] Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now. can you show any skrin ? i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses . here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader I made a few observations in that video that may explain why some people had lag. The video author had sound enabled, turrent effect and all other effects enabled. These three things contribute significantly to client lag. I always turn them all off. I also seen a lot of drones shooting the retribution in the video, and perhaps killing it. We used our drones to attack frigs, not to cause lag as some RA have suggested. N-RAEL does seem to suffer badly from lag and no one side suffers from it exclusively. Perhaps the devs could divert more resrouces to this choke point?
munchy	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:42:00 - [161] Originally by: el toppolino Edited by: el toppolino on 06/01/2006 11:33:30 well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P and btw corak: i have never ever seen such an incorrect killboard as the on of red alliance. i miss about half of the lossmails if not even more (note: this is not smack) i love the v killboard, been keeping track of it for a while, and i like the whole fleet battle thing, but V's killboard is far from accurate, it says you've only ever lost like 1 fleet battle =/ and at least half of your losses are not posted. personally i've barely looked at the RA kms so far but most kms's are missing kills and losses. ---
Harcole	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:54:00 - [162] Originally by: Edoo Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now. can you show any skrin ? i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses . here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader omg... zoom out, turn off turret effects and effects to reduce lag, and do not switch on AB when trying to warp, and you should have tried to activate your armor rep in advance to hitting armor as for the zoome out turn off effect and stuff... why? I can assure you its not client lag, I'm not going to post here but needless to say my current machine can circles round eve... As for the AB, it was more a case of... OMG it worked, than quick hit AB I'm trying to warp. I spent 5 mintues trying to shoot that merlin(?) that I was bouncing! Any roads don't hijack the thread, I fight my way be it right wrong or in-different, as long as I'm trying I'm happy . Cheers Harcole
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:56:00 - [163] To found out the real losses from both sides you have to match both killing boards involved in a fleet battle. Most probably people will post all their victorys but the big majority will not post is losses . So to found out the final result just let it pass 24h and check all the victorious kill mails from both sides and you will see who killed more in one battle.
Virtua Ursula	Posted - 2006.01.06 15:54:00 - [164] Originally by: Phoenicia I have arrived Note that the above screenie was taken after a very exciting 1-on-1 runin with a Red Alliance Malediction. Kudos to Weboide for sticking around after the first volley hit. Heyhey, i really liked that fight, too bad i couldn't get you before that last cruise missile... Anyway, i had fun, thanks Phoenicia Maybe sometime we'll try this again.
weboide	Posted - 2006.01.06 15:59:00 - [165] Originally by: Phoenicia I have arrived Note that the above screenie was taken after a very exciting 1-on-1 runin with a Red Alliance Malediction. Kudos to Weboide for sticking around after the first volley hit. Heyhey, i really liked that fight, too bad i couldn't get you before that last cruise missile... Anyway, i had fun, thanks Phoenicia Maybe sometime we'll try this again.
sallyr	Posted - 2006.01.06 17:04:00 - [166] Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Qui Chen Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now. can you show any skrin ? i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses . here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game! you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems. Was also present and had the same problems, watched my Brutixs shield slowly go down, then armour, then hull, once hull got to 50% it allowed me to warp out, I slowly started to repair damage then found myself back at the battle in a pod, during the whole thing was unable to move or activate any mods, I'm afraid no matter how much you stamp your feet EVERYONE is experiancing the exact same thing ITS NOT JUST YOU, so stop using this an any form of a defense everytime you lose a battle, we all have to use the same server..... we already went over this, but i dont really care. The fact of the matter if you have the same problems then how the hell can u kill anything? i know i couldnt have killed anything with the lag i had, so how did you win an unfightable fight? Its just funny how over and over again you say we had the same thing and we won. when with the experience i had i dont see how any1 could have even fired! (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Oursulag	Posted - 2006.01.06 18:16:00 - [167] Tbh this whole killboard discussion is pointless. Both sides obviously don't post all their losses. I mean, c'mon, one of the dreadnought killmails hasnt even been posted, then how can you seriously claim the killboards to be useful, or even accurate?
Grunton	Posted - 2006.01.07 01:13:00 - [168] I cannot speak for other corps who are friends of alliances but speaking from personal experience: My corp flies along with a lot of different groups, I make kills and I die (more of the latter), I post neither my kills or my losses on any kill board. So if I am flying with a gang and I get shot down the loss only gets recorded on the kill board of the person who made the kill. Not sure how wide spread this scenario is but it does occur. And before someone tells me to get a kill board, YOU pay for it and I will use it. On another note: Death to -V-!
ninja boy	Posted - 2006.01.07 05:30:00 - [169] hmmm lets put some "full size" killmails.... http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=kill&id=25603 -1 dread......
Corak	Posted - 2006.01.07 08:03:00 - [170] Section XIII 4TW !!! Veritas ask ccp fix lafs and can stay without kill :) here is sam kills too UA Industry :: We produce frags
Kim Wu	Posted - 2006.01.07 09:02:00 - [171] bleh ----------------------------------
DjDangle	Posted - 2006.01.07 10:55:00 - [172] Originally by: ninja boy hmmm lets put some "full size" killmails.... http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=kill&id=25603 -1 dread...... Bless, we got 2 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
Crellion	Posted - 2006.01.07 11:40:00 - [173] Originally by: sallyr Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Qui Chen Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now. can you show any skrin ? i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses . here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game! you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems. Was also present and had the same problems, watched my Brutixs shield slowly go down, then armour, then hull, once hull got to 50% it allowed me to warp out, I slowly started to repair damage then found myself back at the battle in a pod, during the whole thing was unable to move or activate any mods, I'm afraid no matter how much you stamp your feet EVERYONE is experiancing the exact same thing ITS NOT JUST YOU, so stop using this an any form of a defense everytime you lose a battle, we all have to use the same server..... we already went over this, but i dont really care. The fact of the matter if you have the same problems then how the hell can u kill anything? i know i couldnt have killed anything with the lag i had, so how did you win an unfightable fight? Its just funny how over and over again you say we had the same thing and we won. when with the experience i had i dont see how any1 could have even fired! Are you actually saying: "-v- zomg haxors wtfbbq me" ? If you are pls note this is like the oldest self humiliating post in eve... gj
Komolov	Posted - 2006.01.07 12:09:00 - [174] French power! LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads. Hope it was fun and good fight for both sides. -------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B
Light Darkness	Posted - 2006.01.07 13:18:00 - [175] Originally by: Komolov French power! LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads. Hope it was fun and good fight for both sides. Lol...yea that wasnt calculatet. But we got our goal. Was a nice fight. Now i must look bevore every jump that i got enough cap. Regards /LD -V-President -V-Fleet Command
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.01.07 13:32:00 - [176] Originally by: Komolov French power! LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads. Well that alsow means that he is actually using them to fight, and not only to be parked somewhere. Wich I must admit is nice
Zakalwe	Posted - 2006.01.07 15:15:00 - [177] Any clue about those killboard probs but at the time i write here : January 7 : RA KB declare 2 lossemail. -V- KB declare 13 RA killmails. Last killmails from -V- time 14.23 Now look time i write this post : so the cause is not time to post KM. The cause is another thing : RA KB (losses) are not near the truth. On the other side -V- declare 4 lossemails RA KB declare : 11 KM -V- KB (losses) are not near the truth. To get a clue of the real thing, you have to count the kill from both side, lossemails arent posted. None the lesse we could say that to describe the reality of losses, -V- is first ! Hmmm... Dan Simmons Hyperion and Iain.M.Banks Culture Novels : for SF Connoisseurs only
DarkAgent	Posted - 2006.01.07 17:01:00 - [178] i posted a thread in te ideas forum about a neutral killboard that uses the serverlogs as source. if you want to contribute, go ahead: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=274391
Freya Selene	Posted - 2006.01.07 17:28:00 - [179] Originally by: Corak Section XIII 4TW !!! Veritas ask ccp fix lafs and can stay without kill :) here is sam kills too Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing. Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+. I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up. The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers. Shame it has to come to offhours POS wars. (witch i cant attend due to RL) Altho there is light in the end of this dark road... i notice RED's regrouping, could it be true........
Amerame	Posted - 2006.01.07 18:03:00 - [180] Originally by: Freya Selene Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing. Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+. I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up. The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers. It might actually be hard to understand but people do play when you're not online, and stuff happens when you're not around. Saying RA has not engaged a single -V- just make you look like a fool.

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