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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:05:00 -
          [1] 
 /signed
 
 Lets start the fun....
 
 
 Regards
 /LD
  
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:05:00 -
          [2] 
 
 Like you all may know V and RA were never the best friends. We were always shooting eachother since V was founded. After V conquered the Great Wildlands and "5" gave some of their regions to RA, cause they were sick of RA¦s lame POS wars, we more or less "tolerated" the RA presence in and arround N-Rael. Small fights, some gank squads, killing only if we met some RA in this named corridor was the result. There were no bigger attacks on eachothers territory.
 
 The recent developments in the south made us think about our standings, we even tried to speak to RA about NAP, to give both sides advantages in using the shared corridor.
 RA¦s answer: "Attack 5, and we will have a NAP!"
 We didnt agree, result: No NAP.
 The same game they did after 5 tried to get into negotiations with RA. "Attack V and we have a NAP".
 5 didnt agree, result: NO NAP.
 
 This,in our eyes,ignorant and arrogant behavior of RA we wont tolerate anymore. The political situations speaks for itself: RA is based in the south but blocking all negoatiations of nearly all south alliances and trying to manipulate everyone to help them with their goals.
 Not acceptable anymore. At least for us.
 
 The battle results for now:
 
 - V won all larger Fleet engagements vs a very confused acting RA the last days and killed a lot of RA ships.
 - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 - V killed 2 of their Dreadnought¦s this morning, which were obviously not prepared for anything.
 
 We know you RA are a proud alliance, we also know that it will be hard to fight vs you, and yes we respect you too but you should think about stepping back out of you arrogance and ignorance.
 
 Thats our message to you. WAR! Bring it on. This was just the beginning.
 
 
 
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  Lunas Feelgood
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:09:00 -
          [3] 
 I have fought V they are good.
 
 BTW LD how does it feel to kill a dread then lose a dread much better right???
  
 I wish RA and V the best of fun
  
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        |  Rexthor Hammerfists
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:10:00 -
          [4] 
 Head Hunta II
 "RA¦s answer: "Attack 5, and we will have a NAP!"
 We didnt agree, result: No NAP."
 
 props for that, the other way, too ofc ;)
 
 
 and gl with ur anti ra actions
 
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:10:00 -
          [5] 
 This should be fun
  ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  juduzz
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:11:00 -
          [6] 
 GL V
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  ZedLey
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:12:00 -
          [7] 
 
 Bout time someone cuts the fat off from RA again such as Alcatraz inc and other beginner corps.
 
 Not soon before RAT. declares war on -V- aswell ;)
 
 
 
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:13:00 -
          [8] 
 The fun has only just begun
  
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        |  Lanari
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:13:00 -
          [9] 
 good stuff, i hope the future is jst like it has been the last few days...very successfull
  
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        |  Robapin
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:14:00 -
          [10] 
 War War War War War
  
 
 
 
 
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        |  thoth foc
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:15:00 -
          [11] 
 no more hiding behind POS's.. should be interesting.. hf all :)
 
 --thoth
 [5],
 ex-Curse Alliance
 ex-DSMA
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:16:00 -
          [12] 
 newbs
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  Adam C
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:18:00 -
          [13] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug newbs
 
 
 u have copia OWNED
 
 
 
 
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        |  FdD Banshee
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:22:00 -
          [14] 
 It's really a sad story. I used to fight RA a lot and its maybe only half a year ago. They used to have some of the best pilots in this game even if a lot of ppl didnt like their way of playing this game. But what happend the lets call it "new RA" is just a shame. Where are all those good pilots we used to know ? Where are the R.A.T. guys we fought, where are the local smacking, hard hitting, npc abusing RA pilots we used to know ? Oh yes, i remember loosing my first scorpions to RA and i was mad at them but always respected their way of no mercy. But whats now ? They turned into "oh we lost a few fights because of the ebil lag"-forum complaining and other ppl Txploid user calling pilots. Those guys i used to know never started to clutter up the forums.
 
 I dont even know if RED is still red or taken over by stars and stripes.
 
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        |  Jouyn Fethan
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:26:00 -
          [15] 
 doesnt ound very sporting of u RA
 
 Good luck all who take them on
 
 booise, jouyn
  
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        |  munchy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:28:00 -
          [16] 
 yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
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        |  Pehova Mindtriq
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:28:00 -
          [17] 
 If i was in RA I wouldn't sign any NAP's either unless i had something to gain from it. They need enemies aswell or the pvpers leave the alliance.
 
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:29:00 -
          [18] 
 At last \o/
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Brisi
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:31:00 -
          [19] 
 War ftw!
 
 
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:40:00 -
          [20] 
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 newbs i will also say.
 
 HH saying you won the last engagments.
 
 But from the start -v- still has lost a "few" billions (x'000'000'000?) compared to RA.
 
 So please, you don't have the right to act arrogant.
 
 You're still the only alliance who managed to lose 15bs's in a 16v16 fight.
 
 So don't come tell RA they are noobs.
 
 And yeah. RAT. will do something about that as i need to protect my complexwhoringNPCingMiningT3russianAlt.
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:42:00 -
          [21] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 newbs i will also say.
 
 HH saying you won the last engagments.
 
 But from the start -v- still has lost a "few" billions (x'000'000'000?) compared to RA.
 
 So please, you don't have the right to act arrogant.
 
 You're still the only alliance who managed to lose 15bs's in a 16v16 fight.
 
 So don't come tell RA they are noobs.
 
 And yeah. RAT. will do something about that as i need to protect my complexwhoringNPCingMiningT3russianAlt.
 
 
 
 We dont loose billions and dont act arrogant
  
 BTW where we loose 15 bs in a 16 BS fleet? If you can show me where i will accept it.
  
 And RAT are welcome...
 ... so we both can meet us again on a drink after the fight.
  
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  LVirus
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:47:00 -
          [22] 
 oo, my corp seems to be top5 in RA killboard. Shouldnt that board be only for RA?
 (plz paste all your mails so we can get even higher, ktnxbye:))
 
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:47:00 -
          [23] 
 Edited by: HeadHunta II on 05/01/2006 00:47:54
 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 newbs i will also say.
 
 HH saying you won the last engagments.
 
 But from the start -v- still has lost a "few" billions (x'000'000'000?) compared to RA.
 
 So please, you don't have the right to act arrogant.
 
 You're still the only alliance who managed to lose 15bs's in a 16v16 fight.
 
 So don't come tell RA they are noobs.
 
 And yeah. RAT. will do something about that as i need to protect my complexwhoringNPCingMiningT3russianAlt.
 
 
 
 The "start" was long time ago. And between the start and now happend a lot. Maybe you get your "good feeling" from what happend long time ago, me not i look at what is called "now".
 
 And where i mentioned that RA are newbs? Nowhere. So pls dont try again to accuse us of something. You guys are way to fast with this stuff.
 
 
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  chris almighty
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:48:00 -
          [24] 
 look guys guys
 
 dont cry over eachother ur both gd allainces cant we just get along and after v pushed me out cos i killed one of ther ceo alt (by accident!!!) i wasnt happy but i still love v and i still wub RA (go russians!!) get along
 
 ......bunch of lies so i can use ur space dont listen to chris lares hes ebil i tell yeee and omeega is a right ebil peep dont get in his undies
  
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:49:00 -
          [25] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 Sry my old enemy friend. We got new members. Sure. But also we got new friends and good fighters.
 
 We dont wanted to engage RA offensive. You know that we both got a "Play field" in N-Rael. Both parts respected that.
 
 NOW !!
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  chris lares
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:50:00 -
          [26] 
 lets talk like gentle folk light darkness i luuubbb ur chicken thighs tbh
  
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:51:00 -
          [27] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 
 where is the 15v15 battle?
 
 
 
 
 check on the RA killboard for this date
 
 2005.04.27 16:14
 
 system : N7-BIY
 
 but anyways we'll see us in space, maybe.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Shin Ra
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:55:00 -
          [28] 
 Now that V got rid of Tyrell corp, I think RA should cut all their english, forum posting, corps. Then you guys should both have some real fun.
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 00:56:00 -
          [29] 
 
  Originally by: HeadHunta II Edited by: HeadHunta II on 05/01/2006 00:47:54
 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 newbs i will also say.
 
 HH saying you won the last engagments.
 
 But from the start -v- still has lost a "few" billions (x'000'000'000?) compared to RA.
 
 So please, you don't have the right to act arrogant.
 
 You're still the only alliance who managed to lose 15bs's in a 16v16 fight.
 
 So don't come tell RA they are noobs.
 
 And yeah. RAT. will do something about that as i need to protect my complexwhoringNPCingMiningT3russianAlt.
 
 
 
 The "start" was long time ago. And between the start and now happend a lot. Maybe you get your "good feeling" from what happend long time ago, me not i look at what is called "now".
 
 And where i mentioned that RA are newbs? Nowhere. So pls dont try again to accuse us of something. You guys are way to fast with this stuff.
 
 
 
 
 "you guys" ?
 
 you have one point when you say RA is not what it used to be.
 
 But don't forget RA still has it's core and if you manage to kill some miners in n-rael it doesn't mean you'll takeover the whole thingie.
 
 But then again i wish you good luck.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Jenny Spitfire
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:03:00 -
          [30] 
 Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/01/2006 01:04:49
 
 war is RAw.
 
 RAWR
 
 
    
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 RecruitMe@NOINT!
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:06:00 -
          [31] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 Sry my old enemy friend. We got new members. Sure. But also we got new friends and good fighters.
 
 We dont wanted to engage RA offensive. You know that we both got a "Play field" in N-Rael. Both parts respected that.
 
 NOW !!
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 
 no no no. you used to convo me when we were at war ;)
 
 was cool i managed to train my german skills abit. now nothing :(
 
 
 
 Sure old friend. We tryed it together. I remember.
  
 But that was a time where we both respected us and both terretorys.
 
 Now with ALTZ and COPIA (engage V in GW)you entered a way we dont like. So what would you do??
 
 Still sitting in GW and do nothing? We both have pvp hearts and we both know the answers we would take.
  
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  Exaali Vendraxxil
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:08:00 -
          [32] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that? Not our fault.
 
 Perhaps you should have a word with Fury Corp, then. As far as I know any incursions into GW proper were in response to incursions by Fury into RA space.
 
 Std disclaimer: not an RA official.
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:12:00 -
          [33] 
 but meh stop complaining about who started what!
 
 i'm just saying i've seen you making more classy announcement like...
 
 *we are sure there's some vodka bottles in cache stations* or so.
 
 that's it ;)
 
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Archonon
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:14:00 -
          [34] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness /signed
 
 Lets start the fun....
 
 Regards
 /LD
  
 
 And two mounth later will i have a convo of u crying for a nap again ? this time u'll die
 
 -V- what a joke
 _______________________
 Lokan > fire
 Lokan > what's up with
 section 13?
 Lokan > they flaming us
 on the forums
 
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        |  FdD Banshee
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:14:00 -
          [35] 
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that? Not our fault.
 
 Perhaps you should have a word with Fury Corp, then. As far as I know any incursions into GW proper were in response to incursions by Fury into RA space.
 
 
 Killing not blue's at the PUZ <-> N-RAEL (Great Wildlands) area isnt a crime since it is not RA space
 
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        |  Exaali Vendraxxil
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:15:00 -
          [36] 
 
  Originally by: FdD Banshee Killing not blue's at the PUZ <-> N-RAEL (Great Wildlands) area isnt a crime since it is not RA space
 
 I know. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about FUCO going into Insmother. But whatever.
 
 PS: Hi Banshee!
  
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:15:00 -
          [37] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega but meh stop complaining about who started what!
 
 i'm just saying i've seen you making more classy announcement like...
 
 *we are sure there's some vodka bottles in cache stations* or so.
 
 that's it ;)
 
 
 
 
 ICQ biach ?
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  FdD Banshee
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:19:00 -
          [38] 
 Edited by: FdD Banshee on 05/01/2006 01:21:31
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil 
  Originally by: FdD Banshee Killing not blue's at the PUZ <-> N-RAEL (Great Wildlands) area isnt a crime since it is not RA space
 
 I know. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about FUCO going into Insmother. But whatever.
 
 PS: Hi Banshee!
  
 
 Hi Exaali, nice to read you here.
 Well according to the map you could be right .... be i dont like the map, according to my map its [5] territory only RA got it claimed because of setting up countless of POS'ses in a short time instead of fighting for it.
  
 
 
 
  Originally by: Archonon 
 And two mounth later will i have a convo of u crying for a nap again ? this time u'll die
 
 -V- what a joke
 
 
 Shmm, thats a section XIII guy saying that .... what a laugh
  
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        |  DUFFMANX
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:20:00 -
          [39] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 Sry my old enemy friend. We got new members. Sure. But also we got new friends and good fighters.
 
 We dont wanted to engage RA offensive. You know that we both got a "Play field" in N-Rael. Both parts respected that.
 
 NOW !!
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 
 no no no. you used to convo me when we were at war ;)
 
 was cool i managed to train my german skills abit. now nothing :(
 
 
 
 Sure old friend. We tryed it together. I remember.
  
 But that was a time where we both respected us and both terretorys.
 
 Now with ALTZ and COPIA (engage V in GW)you entered a way we dont like. So what would you do??
 
 Still sitting in GW and do nothing? We both have pvp hearts and we both know the answers we would take.
  
 Regards
 /LD
 
 
 1 thing ur neglecting to say Ld is that from our [ALTZ] point of view we have been engaging ye -V- for a very long time as much as possible in our own way long b4 we accepted a gracious invitation from RA.
 
 This even dates back to formation of -V- and when we were deklein residents of Iron, we have always tried to make a dent in yer operations so i dont see how your statement adds up to recent actions by us makin a difference cept the fact we r now in RA
  
 
  Originally by: Eshtir If your transmission is missing, it might have been destroyed by our "OOC Deathstar".
 -Eshtir
 
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        |  Kaeten
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:20:00 -
          [40] 
 
 yea Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Head Hunta II
 "RA¦s answer: "Attack 5, and we will have a NAP!"
 We didnt agree, result: No NAP."
 
 props for that, the other way, too ofc ;)
 
 
 and gl with ur anti ra actions
 
 
 
  Latest Movie: RKK - Meatshield
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        |  Vince Draken
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:20:00 -
          [41] 
 Ahh, this looks so familar.
 
 First off, I'll expect to see RAT taking charge again. I am interested to see how RA feels now that dreads are improved + the change in POS warfare.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
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        |  Mustapha leak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:22:00 -
          [42] 
 Edited by: Mustapha leak on 05/01/2006 01:22:48
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that? Not our fault.
 
 Perhaps you should have a word with Fury Corp, then. As far as I know any incursions into GW proper were in response to incursions by Fury into RA space.
 
 Std disclaimer: not an RA official.
 
 
 damnit we've been rumbled
  . now how about section thirteen constantly using the GW complex, red friendly haulers complaining about -V- shooting them in n-rael because it's red space. 
 you know we're old friends of warRages and were just popping in for a cuppa so no telling tales pls.
 
 
 bleh alt4tlose. mithrindar
 
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        |  liquidism
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:23:00 -
          [43] 
 yarr
 
 gl hf both of you
 
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:41:00 -
          [44] 
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that? Not our fault.
 
 Perhaps you should have a word with Fury Corp, then. As far as I know any incursions into GW proper were in response to incursions by Fury into RA space.
 
 Std disclaimer: not an RA official.
 
 
 You have been using N-RAEL and cliaming its yours for months, you have been whoring our complex for months, you have been attacking our miners in systems near said complex, and you claim that we started this? sounds like the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing to me.
 
 Our leaders even tryed to enter into talks about allowing you access through our space to get to your own, and you threw it back in our face, this entire war was started by your alliances arrogance pure and simple, trying to say it was caused by us is just pure nonesense.
 
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        |  MalaMo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:53:00 -
          [45] 
 Is it time to say RA is DEAD
  Sowwy
  couldn't resist  -------------
 Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly.
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        |  Drew Kelly
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 01:54:00 -
          [46] 
 Hush......
 
 
 
 I hear the drums of war!!
 
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        |  Flamia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:05:00 -
          [47] 
 
  Originally by: Vince Draken Ahh, this looks so familar.
 
 First off, I'll expect to see RAT taking charge again. I am interested to see how RA feels now that dreads are improved + the change in POS warfare.
  
 
 especially since RA have no dreads left lol
 
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        |  Metal Dude
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:12:00 -
          [48] 
 
  Originally by: Nebuli 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that? Not our fault.
 
 Perhaps you should have a word with Fury Corp, then. As far as I know any incursions into GW proper were in response to incursions by Fury into RA space.
 
 Std disclaimer: not an RA official.
 
 
 You have been using N-RAEL and cliaming its yours for months, you have been whoring our complex for months, you have been attacking our miners in systems near said complex, and you claim that we started this? sounds like the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing to me.
 
 Our leaders even tryed to enter into talks about allowing you access through our space to get to your own, and you threw it back in our face, this entire war was started by your alliances arrogance pure and simple, trying to say it was caused by us is just pure nonesense.
 
 
 Typical RA(T). Did you expect anything different from them after seeing how they handled our NAP?
 
 Anyway, Good luck -V-. You have our support. Who knows. I'm always up for shooting RA(T) and maybe without their time zone POS advantage, they might actually have to come out and fight. That in itself might be worth a trip.
  
 
 
 The truth will set you free
 
 * Proud to be ATUK *
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        |  The Enslaver
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:13:00 -
          [49] 
 <3 V
 
 Keep it clean lads.
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 Shinra Director
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:16:00 -
          [50] 
 
  Originally by: Metal Dude I'm always up for shooting RA(T)
 
 
 
 I`ve never seen you in Detorid... But wait, i`ve seen character, with bio "alt of metal dude". He ran from us 4 systems, and logged off.
 
 This is main problem of 80% ATUK. You talk too much, and fight too little.
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  Komolov
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:17:00 -
          [51] 
 Last assumption was wrong along with any assumptions that V could win.
 
 RA have a lot of noobs inside for the moment so this war will give them nice school. As for whinning on forums about lag exploits i can not blame new pilots, but unfortunately for -V- even oldest and most experienced pilots of RA noticed that lag is very unusual for size and intencity of battles they were involved in.
 
 --------------------
 Sincerely yours,
 Dmitry V. Komolov
 FSP-B
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        |  putukas
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:21:00 -
          [52] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Metal Dude I'm always up for shooting RA(T)
 
 
 
 I`ve never seen you in Detorid... But wait, i`ve seen character, with bio "alt of metal dude". He ran from us 4 systems, and logged off.
 
 This is main problem of 80% ATUK. You talk too much, and fight too little.
 
 
 i think you eat your own words. We have been in fight with reds more or less about 1 month and never seen any RAT ppl.......
 
 anyway stop talking and come to jlo :p bring it on we are ready and waiting for you.
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:30:00 -
          [53] 
 I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  putukas
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:40:00 -
          [54] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 common smack talk by red alliance. thats why they need to be crushed down and educated how to eat their own dirt
 
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        |  Elenia Kheynes
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:41:00 -
          [55] 
 pffft... all those wars everywhere ^^
 
 It's getting difficult to be everywhere at the same time
  
 
 Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 02:58:00 -
          [56] 
 
  Originally by: Archonon 
 
 And two mounth later will i have a convo of u crying for a nap again ? this time u'll die
 
 -V- what a joke
 
 
 [sarcasm on]Can i have a nap now? Cuz you scare me to death.[/sarcasm off]
 -----------------------
 
 The Canadian got in a store and said to the seller:
 - I'm a Canadian and I can kill you!
 - Can what?
 - Canadian!
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 03:02:00 -
          [57] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 
  
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        |  slip66
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 03:13:00 -
          [58] 
 Gl -V-,
 
 RA still have skilled pilots + RAT. There also seem to be a lot of new hanger on corps in RA now too though. So I'm sure that will help your kill ratio :)
 
 The russian contingent will defenitly bring it to you guys. Hope both sides Have fun.
 
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        |  Metal Dude
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 03:59:00 -
          [59] 
 Edited by: Metal Dude on 05/01/2006 04:03:43
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Metal Dude I'm always up for shooting RA(T)
 
 
 
 I`ve never seen you in Detorid... But wait, i`ve seen character, with bio "alt of metal dude". He ran from us 4 systems, and logged off.
 
 This is main problem of 80% ATUK. You talk too much, and fight too little.
 
 
 No, we waited for you to show up for over a month. When you finally showed up, it was in the middle of the night with your POS 4-5 alliance fleet to shoot a defenseless station after we already moved out, but don't worry my little Russian friend. We'll be back in due time. Now it's your turn to wait, but rest a sure. We will be back.
  
 
 
 The truth will set you free
 
 * Proud to be ATUK *
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        |  Galavet
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:11:00 -
          [60] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 So is RAT part of RA, because the way this reads you are.. But during the ATUK wars I could have swore you said you were seperate?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
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        |  Tyrian Solteuer
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:24:00 -
          [61] 
 As always Tyrell and the Curse Coalition fully support V's efforts against the Red Alliance and we look forward to being able to assist them in any way possible. Rock on V, we're big fans!
  
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        |  Jacuro
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:24:00 -
          [62] 
 War declared, smacking stopped, lets have a party
 (ill be back soonish )
 
 
 -:= -V- Fleet Command =:-
 
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        |  Crellion
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:26:00 -
          [63] 
 
  Originally by: Komolov Edited by: Komolov on 05/01/2006 02:17:59
 Assumption about dreads was wrong along with any assumptions that V could win.
 
 RA have a lot of noobs inside for the moment so this war will give them nice school. As for whinning on forums about lag exploits i can not blame new pilots, but unfortunately for -V- even oldest and most experienced pilots of RA noticed that lag is very unusual for size and intencity of battles they were involved in.
 
 
 Quoted so that more peeps will get to see this little gem
  
 
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        |  Jacuro
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:26:00 -
          [64] 
 
  Originally by: Archonon 
  Originally by: Light Darkness /signed
 
 Lets start the fun....
 
 Regards
 /LD
  
 
 And two mounth later will i have a convo of u crying for a nap again ? this time u'll die
 
 -V- what a joke
 
 
 
 Harsh words my young padawan..
 May the force be with you,
 
 -:= -V- Fleet Command =:-
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:28:00 -
          [65] 
 Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/01/2006 04:28:01
 
  Originally by: Galavet 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 So is RAT part of RA, because the way this reads you are.. But during the ATUK wars I could have swore you said you were seperate?
 
 
 
 
 
 Incorrect, sir.
 
 Old school RA are our friends. And we often fly with them in past. I used to lead fleet very often, as Zloba (main ruteam fleetleader) - don`t pvp too much.
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  LTD THOR
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 04:58:00 -
          [66] 
 die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
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        |  Good AtMath
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 05:00:00 -
          [67] 
 
  Originally by: putukas 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 common smack talk by red alliance. thats why they need to be crushed down and educated how to eat their own dirt
 
 
 Might be too late, I think they sold the dirt on ebay too.
 
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        |  William Dampier
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 05:58:00 -
          [68] 
 
  Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer As always Tyrell and the Curse Coalition fully support V's efforts against the Red Alliance and we look forward to being able to assist them in any way possible. Rock on V, we're big fans!
  
 
 
 I am pretty sure -V- has their own supplier of warp core stabs, not sure what help tyrell could possibly be
 
 
 
 
 V I R I I HeadQuarters
 http://virii.homeip.net
 
 
 
 
 
 V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
 
 
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 08:11:00 -
          [69] 
 
  Originally by: LTD THOR die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 nice, nice
  
 All luck
 [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Reite
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 08:42:00 -
          [70] 
 Good luck Light Darkness and -V- :)
 
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        |  Thyrniros
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 08:50:00 -
          [71] 
 Welcome to the club -v- . I'll buy you a drink in detorid once :) just some minor details to tend to first
  
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        |  nirana
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 09:07:00 -
          [72] 
 Edited by: nirana on 05/01/2006 09:09:43
 heady 4tw.
 RA 4tl.
 
 oh yeah forgot
 
 AEON <3
 
 Go -V- \o/
 
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        |  Knat
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 09:50:00 -
          [73] 
 Good luck -V-.
 
 And i hope both sides will have tons of fun and only little lag
  
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:03:00 -
          [74] 
 
  Originally by: Knat 
 And i hope both sides will have tons of fun and only little lag
  
 
 To be bad boy a bit I have to wish RA to have same fun like we did back in cache
   [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:21:00 -
          [75] 
 i wish V good luck especially as a few corpmates headed for V weeks ago. hope you get good fights and get what you wanted. i wish both sides plenty of fleet action, fun and a lag-free server.
 
 one addition, there seemed to be a little discussion about who violated the other's borders. you are talking about ganksquads, but i know there is at least 1 RA pos in GW, owner corp is section 13, and i bet they were not allowed placing it there. send me an eve mail for coordinates if you like.
 
 
 ----------------
 (\_/)
 (O.o)
 (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination.
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:22:00 -
          [76] 
 Edited by: DeadDuck on 05/01/2006 10:25:36
 I was wondering why RA wasn't at war with -V- ... now things will be clear ...
 
 See you then in JL0
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Kriger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:49:00 -
          [77] 
 Edited by: Kriger on 05/01/2006 10:56:25
 
  Originally by: Xaarist i wish V good luck especially as a few corpmates headed for V weeks ago. hope you get good fights and get what you wanted. i wish both sides plenty of fleet action, fun and a lag-free server.
 one addition, there seemed to be a little discussion about who violated the other's borders. you are talking about ganksquads, but i know there is at least 1 RA pos in GW, owner corp is section 13, and i bet they were not allowed placing it there. send me an eve mail for coordinates if you like.
 
 
 
 Tnx m8.. :)
 
 And if u r refering to the pos in QQ3, we blew that one up some days ago.. :) And a good part of the 2 RA fleets that came to assist it ;) Was good fun.. thumbs up to RA for engaging twice and not logging.
 
 Secondly.. RAT.. whats up with all the smack? Not one decent post from u guys.. Grow up... if u cant be constructive, dont "contribute"...
 
 
 Kriger
 
 
 -[the above represent my views alone, not those of my corp or alliance unless stated otherwise]-
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        |  zincol
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:53:00 -
          [78] 
 Edited by: zincol on 05/01/2006 10:53:34
 /me places 500isk that RA comes out tops.
 
 LD please lower the CAP II prices on market...
 
 
 edit : G/L all.
 
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        |  nirana
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 10:55:00 -
          [79] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 i cant remember the last time u jumped in, when not having 3:1 numbers
  oh wait. u never jumpin.
  
 maybe u should be the one saying "safespot fellows safespot" ?
 
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        |  Pantheon Lea
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 11:21:00 -
          [80] 
 Edited by: Pantheon Lea on 05/01/2006 11:25:31
 
  Originally by: Crellion 
  Originally by: Komolov Edited by: Komolov on 05/01/2006 02:17:59
 Assumption about dreads was wrong along with any assumptions that V could win.
 
 RA have a lot of noobs inside for the moment so this war will give them nice school. As for whinning on forums about lag exploits i can not blame new pilots, but unfortunately for -V- even oldest and most experienced pilots of RA noticed that lag is very unusual for size and intencity of battles they were involved in.
 
 
 Quoted so that more peeps will get to see this little gem
  
 
 No need to, you can't see the invisible fleet of -V-
  
 
 
  Pantheon Lea 
 
 Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers - We mean you no harm
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 11:23:00 -
          [81] 
 Edited by: DjDangle on 05/01/2006 11:27:52
 
  Originally by: Archonon 
  Originally by: Light Darkness /signed
 
 Lets start the fun....
 
 Regards
 /LD
  
 
 And two mounth later will i have a convo of u crying for a nap again ? this time u'll die
 
 -V- what a joke
 
 
 For "A joke" We seem to have done a pretty good job of annihalating every fleet you've thrown at us.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  nync
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 12:57:00 -
          [82] 
 Edited by: nync on 05/01/2006 12:57:34
 GL all, hf.
 2:el topolino, lvirus - use more wcs, 3 might be not enough next time.
 2:Lanari -- attacking mamonth is not an option then u are flying a close range inty, cos not all who fly indys are newbie miners
  and logging off to save ur pod is kinda lame  
 WTS Light Darkness corpse.
 
 
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:03:00 -
          [83] 
 
  Originally by: nirana 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 i cant remember the last time u jumped in, when not having 3:1 numbers
  oh wait. u never jumpin.
  
 maybe u should be the one saying "safespot fellows safespot" ?
 
 
 If we never jumped, why you called DELTA and FINFL to Detorid ?
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  thoth foc
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:16:00 -
          [84] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug If we never jumped, why you called DELTA and FINFL to Detorid ?
 
 
 rat barely came to detorid (despite promising otherwise) some RA turned up shot stations after we took down our pos's.. ran/logged when we tried engage (and according them that was on your orders) and deployed alot of POS's..
 
 i guess delta/FINFL came down to be as bored as we were..
 
 --thoth
 [5],
 ex-Curse Alliance
 ex-DSMA
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        |  Harcole
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:19:00 -
          [85] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 Sry my old enemy friend. We got new members. Sure. But also we got new friends and good fighters.
 
 We dont wanted to engage RA offensive. You know that we both got a "Play field" in N-Rael. Both parts respected that.
 
 NOW !!
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 
 I'm the only one from ALTZ that flew with that fleet. last time I checked I was one man in about hundread! But nice to know that my presence was felt... even if I couldn't shoot any guns!!!
  
 As for "The Fives" jaw staggering comment of cutting the fat, I never asked to join RA, we were offered the choice, we took it, you think we're noobs, come join us I'm sure we can show you a few tricks still, but then I have enough respect to appreciate that your not noobs and have enough combat experience to keep us all happy.
 
 If all you can do is smack stick to Empire, I moved out here for some piece and quite, grats to -V- for bringing on the fight and I look forward to the honrable combat that will ensue.
 
 Cheers
 Harcole
 
 
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:31:00 -
          [86] 
 I'm fairly sure it was regarding ALTZ activities leading up to joining RA, not one incident.
  ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Awalance
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:34:00 -
          [87] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: nirana 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 i cant remember the last time u jumped in, when not having 3:1 numbers
  oh wait. u never jumpin.
  
 maybe u should be the one saying "safespot fellows safespot" ?
 
 
 If we never jumped, why you called DELTA and FINFL to Detorid ?
 
 
 
 same reson why you call PA/FE/NBSI in
 ------------------------
 
 
 
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        |  Harcole
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:38:00 -
          [88] 
 
  Originally by: Pepperami I'm fairly sure it was regarding ALTZ activities leading up to joining RA, not one incident.
  
 
 
 Shhhh you'll burst my bubble!
  
 
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        |  Recco
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 13:55:00 -
          [89] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 
 
 
 
 Ohh plz, get your story corectly before u say anything, some guys in -V- came into scalding pass and Insmother to look for esay kills. We follow¦d them into G-W, kill some of your guys instead, that game was play¦d for 1 week, [ If I remember it correctly ] So basicly u can blaim and flaim your own alliance members.
 
 
 ___________________________________
 
 Icelander that loves to drink.
 
 Viking and going some day to Valhalla
 
 
 
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 14:16:00 -
          [90] 
 The fact is that everybody was shooting everybody in 0 space ... we were (are) KOS for you, and you were (are) KOS for us ... Only in empire that rule didnt apply ...
 
 With the war declared things will change alot, maybe -V- thinks that the only thing that will change is that we can now shoot each other in empire ...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 14:49:00 -
          [91] 
 
  Originally by: William Dampier 
 I am pretty sure -V- has their own supplier of warp core stabs, not sure what help tyrell could possibly be
 
 
 
 
  Im disappointed you guys are hiding these days. I use to hear such good things about Virri, but frankly you guys are overrated... stop crying stab and log back in. -----------------------
 
 The Canadian got in a store and said to the seller:
 - I'm a Canadian and I can kill you!
 - Can what?
 - Canadian!
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        |  Mangus Thermopyle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:04:00 -
          [92] 
 After the war we had with V, I have to say that they are the most fearless and fun opponents you can have. Skilled, brave and always up for a fight. GL V
 
 
  Originally by: Tholarim And i don't mind being dispised.
 
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:09:00 -
          [93] 
 
  Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle After the war we had with V, I have to say that they are the most fearless and fun opponents you can have. Skilled, brave and always up for a fight.
 
 
 That is alsow true ... they just cant resist a fight oportunity
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Rogthgar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:14:00 -
          [94] 
 Cache cleared.
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        |  raistalin
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:28:00 -
          [95] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega but meh stop complaining about who started what!
 
 i'm just saying i've seen you making more classy announcement like...
 
 *we are sure there's some vodka bottles in cache stations* or so.
 
 that's it ;)
 
 
 
 
 Out of curiosity, are you the original Omeega from CLS or was the account sold? I just ask cuz your personalities seem quite different from forum and then Teamspeak.
 
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        |  Edoo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:30:00 -
          [96] 
 
  Originally by: Rogthgar 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 Who cares who you are?
 
 
 I care
  
 he is teh thug
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:33:00 -
          [97] 
 Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/01/2006 15:34:57
 
  Originally by: Rogthgar 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 Who cares who you are?
 
 
 You. Will. Soon.
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 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  Dreez
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:33:00 -
          [98] 
 
 
  Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq If i was in RA I wouldn't sign any NAP's either unless i had something to gain from it. They need enemies aswell or the pvpers leave the alliance.
 
 
 You obviosly dont know RA they dont have any pure PvPers.
 If RA dont get any enemies , they dont care and just go mining
 23/7.
 
 GL & HF to -V- , and be prepared for the most boring war ever.
 
 
 Current Location: In my Blasterthron chasing TomB with a blowtorch
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 15:52:00 -
          [99] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/01/2006 15:34:57
 
  Originally by: Rogthgar 
  Originally by: Evil Thug I think you need to ask your alliance m8s who am I. And ask RED, who lead theyr gang, when VI got totally owned with score like 1 - 11, little, tiny n00b.
 
 
 Who cares who you are?
 
 
 You. Will. Soon.
 
 
 Well I don't know about anyone else, but that comment has scared me so much I am now cancelling my account with Eve and moving to Alaska,
 
 Who wants my stuff.
 
 Sarcasm 4tw \o/
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  HatePeace LoveWar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:05:00 -
          [100] 
 There's something so special between LD & Omeegaa awwww
 
 Tycalos > everyone log in at once to lag them out and crash the node
 ^^FE Desperation
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        |  ninja boy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:06:00 -
          [101] 
 Edited by: ninja boy on 05/01/2006 16:06:35
 
  
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        |  Vashi Dokumentu
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:07:00 -
          [102] 
 
  Quote: die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 I`m sry if i didnt see your smiley face......
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:07:00 -
          [103] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
 
 You. Will. Soon.
 
 
 Theres not enough room on these forums for your ego. Zip your pants up we dont care how big your e-peen is... calling people "little tiny newbs" just makes you look stupid.
 -----------------------
 
 The Canadian got in a store and said to the seller:
 - I'm a Canadian and I can kill you!
 - Can what?
 - Canadian!
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:22:00 -
          [104] 
 
  Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu 
  Quote: die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 I`m sry if i didnt see your smiley face......
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
 
 Well done, you are truely uber.
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Sir JoJo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:35:00 -
          [105] 
 
  Originally by: Harcole 
  Originally by: Pepperami I'm fairly sure it was regarding ALTZ activities leading up to joining RA, not one incident.
  
 
 
 Shhhh you'll burst my bubble!
  
 
 ALTZ in RA
          
  Originally by: Eris Discordia As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
 
 
 
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        |  Kriger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 16:56:00 -
          [106] 
 Edited by: Kriger on 05/01/2006 16:57:23
 
  Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu 
  Quote: die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 I`m sry if i didnt see your smiley face......
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
 
 Ohh.. your first kill kiddo? u must be so proud...
  Some1 hand him a banana.. 
 
 
 Kriger
 
 
 -[the above represent my views alone, not those of my corp or alliance unless stated otherwise]-
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        |  LTD THOR
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:03:00 -
          [107] 
 
  Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu 
  Quote: die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 I`m sry if i didnt see your smiley face......
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
 
 
  <- here, you hero! greetings to your gangm8s.. 
 
 
 
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        |  LVirus
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:06:00 -
          [108] 
 
  Originally by: nync Edited by: nync on 05/01/2006 12:57:34
 GL all, hf.
 2:el topolino, lvirus - use more wcs, 3 might be not enough next time.
 2:Lanari -- attacking mamonth is not an option then u are flying a close range inty, cos not all who fly indys are newbie miners
  and logging off to save ur pod is kinda lame  
 WTS Light Darkness corpse.
 
 
 
 
 LOLLOLOLO
 send me a screenshot from killmail where i have used WCS and ill give you 100m isk.
 Damn noob, our corp doesnt even have wcs bpo. Tho i must admit, we have about 100 wcs in corp hangar, all found in RA lootcans. If i ever win WCS II bpo in lottery, ill prolly trash it.
 
 
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        |  Tassi
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:12:00 -
          [109] 
 
  Originally by: munchy yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
 
 
 Munchy you blamed infod that we joined an alliance, and now YOU go to the guys that spamm local with letters i cant decode ...
 
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        |  DarkAgent
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:15:00 -
          [110] 
 
  Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu 
  Quote: die with a smile for this time.. you had your chance for diplomatic relationships. maybe you will respond next time.
 
 
 I`m sry if i didnt see your smiley face......
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well then why dont we stick to the truth and post the WHOLE KILLMAIL
 
 
 
 2006.01.04 01:54
 
 Victim: LTD THOR
 Alliance: Veritas Immortalis
 Corp: Sensus Numinis
 Destroyed: Armageddon
 System: JLO-Z3
 Security: 0.0
 
 Involved parties:
 
 Name: Vashi Dokumentu (laid the final blow)
 Security: -3.0
 Alliance: None
 Corp: The xDEATHx Squadron
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
 
 Name: Drew Kelly
 Security: 3.8
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: Copia-WarRages Armaments
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: Tempest
 
 Name: VERVOLF
 Security: 4.4
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: RUS-1-UKR
 Ship: Tempest
 Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I
 
 Name: WarRages
 Security: 2.2
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: Copia-WarRages Armaments
 Ship: Scorpion
 Weapon: ECM - Ion Field Projector II
 
 Name: Pharyx
 Security: 0.6
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: Copia-WarRages Armaments
 Ship: Taranis
 Weapon: Warrior I
 
 Name: dodgeydan
 Security: -8.3
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: Copia-WarRages Armaments
 Ship: Incursus
 Weapon: Incursus
 
 Name: Amaani
 Security: -0.5
 Alliance: Red Alliance
 Corp: Copia-WarRages Armaments
 Ship: Scorpion
 Weapon: ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
 
 
 Destroyed items:
 
 Heat Sink I
 Radio L
 Radio L
 Valkyrie I (Drone Bay)
 Valkyrie I (Drone Bay)
 Tachyon Beam Laser I
 Tachyon Beam Laser I
 Valkyrie I (Drone Bay)
 Radio L
 Tracking Enhancer I
 Warp Core Stabilizer I
 Warp Core Stabilizer I
 Multifrequency L (Cargo)
 Multifrequency L (Cargo)
 Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation
 Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
 Warp Core Stabilizer I (Cargo)
 Nanofiber Internal Structure I (Cargo)
 Nanofiber Internal Structure I (Cargo)
 
 
 Owned by truth
 
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:18:00 -
          [111] 
 V leave out the kill mails, don't drop to RA's level
  
 .. Or we could just call everyone "silly little noobs" and get right into it.
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Phoenicia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:19:00 -
          [112] 
 /me sets autopilot N-Rael.
 
 
 Time to see if I can pick off some slow warpers again
  
 
 
 
 
 "There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!"
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        |  Nitalya
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:24:00 -
          [113] 
 
  Originally by: Harcole\ 
 I'm the only one from ALTZ that flew with that fleet. last time I checked I was one man in about hundread! But nice to know that my presence was felt... even if I couldn't shoot any guns!!!
  
 As for "The Fives" jaw staggering comment of cutting the fat, I never asked to join RA, ALTZ were offered the choice, which ALTZ took, you think we're noobs, come join us I'm sure we can show you a few tricks still, but then I have enough respect to appreciate that your not noobs and have enough combat experience to keep us all happy.
 
 If all you can do is smack stick to Empire, I moved out here for some piece and quite, grats to -V- for bringing on the fight and I look forward to the honrable combat that will ensue.
 
 Cheers
 Harcole
 
 
 im not one to post much on the forms or smack... but after seeing this i just wanteed to point out that alctz joined RA cause they couldnt handle getting pwnd by themselfs in GW. before alctz came back to GW they asked infod to leave -V- alliance and help them claim GW. its sad that it comes to this since INFOD used to respect and like alcatraz now they are acting like a bunch of smack talking noobs. good luck guys and i hope balta comes to his senses and realizes that joining RA isnt the answer to his problems.
 
 LONG LIVE -V-
 
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        |  Lt Hole
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:47:00 -
          [114] 
 
  Originally by: Shin Ra Now that V got rid of Tyrell corp, I think RA should cut all their english, forum posting, corps. Then you guys should both have some real fun.
 
 
 I can feel the love.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Harcole
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 17:57:00 -
          [115] 
 
  Originally by: Nitalya 
  Originally by: Harcole\ 
 I'm the only one from ALTZ that flew with that fleet. last time I checked I was one man in about hundread! But nice to know that my presence was felt... even if I couldn't shoot any guns!!!
  
 As for "The Fives" jaw staggering comment of cutting the fat, I never asked to join RA, ALTZ were offered the choice, which ALTZ took, you think we're noobs, come join us I'm sure we can show you a few tricks still, but then I have enough respect to appreciate that your not noobs and have enough combat experience to keep us all happy.
 
 If all you can do is smack stick to Empire, I moved out here for some piece and quite, grats to -V- for bringing on the fight and I look forward to the honrable combat that will ensue.
 
 Cheers
 Harcole
 
 
 im not one to post much on the forms or smack... but after seeing this i just wanteed to point out that alctz joined RA cause they couldnt handle getting pwnd by themselfs in GW. before alctz came back to GW they asked infod to leave -V- alliance and help them claim GW. its sad that it comes to this since INFOD used to respect and like alcatraz now they are acting like a bunch of smack talking noobs. good luck guys and i hope balta comes to his senses and realizes that joining RA isnt the answer to his problems.
 
 LONG LIVE -V-
 
 
 I was quite happy getting "pwned" in GWL's, hell 90% of my stuff is still in Kasrasi. Whats wrong with joining an Alliance? Other than I can't understand a word of Russian, but hey I'm still doing what I do best. Shotting the red things, and crying when I get podded!
 
 If your missing me from 8yc area I'll come back all you need to do is ask nicely!
 
 Cheers
 Harcole
 
 
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        |  MalaMo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 18:12:00 -
          [116] 
 
  Originally by: Lt Hole 
 I can feel the love.
 
  
 
 
 Love is in the air
 Everywhere I look around
 Love is in the air
 Every sight and every sound
    -------------
 Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly.
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        |  WarRages
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 18:15:00 -
          [117] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:43:33
 Edited by: Omeega on 05/01/2006 00:40:05
 
 P.S. Hi LD. your alliance changed a lot. You used to convo mee to talk very nice now you seem to want to rule the world.
 
 
 
 Sry my old enemy friend. We got new members. Sure. But also we got new friends and good fighters.
 
 We dont wanted to engage RA offensive. You know that we both got a "Play field" in N-Rael. Both parts respected that.
 
 NOW !!
 
 RA engaged us offensive with Copia and ALTZ and opened the war into our terretory. Why YOU dont respected that?
 
 Not our fault.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 
 
 Cmon LD i would hope you would know better than that, CWRA Fleets were only sent into GW after one of V's corp's (Fury Corp) decided to come into C-J and attack us.
  
 So anyway respect m8t and see you on the battle, looking forward to some fun fights and gl to all. Primary 4TW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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        |  Ghost Reaper
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 18:18:00 -
          [118] 
 all i gota say is, GO V!!!!!!
 Red cant be trusted for anything, u get a nap with them and then they still shoot u! they say sry it was a misike then do it again.....wtf? i hope V owns RA, but then again WHEN red is loosing they'll just retreat bak to there pos wars as usual!
 
 GO V :)
 
 GR
 
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        |  Katya Detia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 18:32:00 -
          [119] 
 Welcome to the party -V- :D Nice to be fighting along side you once again.. :)
 
 
 Join Black Sea Industries today!!!
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        |  linseed
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 18:46:00 -
          [120] 
 
  Originally by: DarkAgent 
 Warp Core Stabilizer I (Cargo)
 
 
 
 he he is this just incase?
 
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        |  Duraeli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 19:04:00 -
          [121] 
 Seems to me like we have a bit of a title fight here between the Germans in -V- and the Russians in RA.
 
 I'd love to be on one Universal Teamspeak or Ventrillo server to listen in on that engagement.
 ----------------------------------------------
 Persona non grata
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        |  Haldane IV
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 19:06:00 -
          [122] 
 I believe Red Alliance would do well to think hard about what HeadHunta II says in the pen-ultimate paragraph of his announcement. Until their leaders heed what he says there, I for one am honoured to have -V- as brothers in arms.
 
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        |  stuart waterman
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 19:41:00 -
          [123] 
 Wishing you all the best V
 
 knock em dead
 
 
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        |  Rogthgar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 19:53:00 -
          [124] 
 You. Will. Soon.
 
 
 Looking foward to seeing you in a kill mail under Victim.
 <img src="http://sig.veritas-immortalis.org/?id=Rogthgar">
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        |  sallyr
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 19:59:00 -
          [125] 
 
  Originally by: Duraeli Seems to me like we have a bit of a title fight here between the Germans in -V- and the Russians in RA.
 
 I'd love to be on one Universal Teamspeak or Ventrillo server to listen in on that engagement.
 
 
 rofl you have no idea how true that will turn out to be
   
 history 4tw
 (\_/)
 (O.o)
 (> <)
 
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        |  Shinnen
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 20:07:00 -
          [126] 
 
  Originally by: stuart waterman Wishing you all the best V
 
 knock em dead
 
 
 
 we sure will:
 
 process of killing RA, kill them, kill their clone, kill their clone's clone, kill their clone's clone's clone, ( I think you get the picture )
 
 They are gonna wish they'd never been cloned.
 ---
 
 INFOD
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 20:39:00 -
          [127] 
 
  Originally by: sallyr 
 history 4tw
 
 
 Bunch of outlaws front of the lines tripping the mines... (Alcz? RAT? :P )
 Massive numbers, numbers and numbers.. if they retreaded in tactical view, shot (or machinegunned) on sight by there commanders.....
 
 History 4tL
 
 
 
 
 
 No iam not German.
 
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        |  Phoenicia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 21:02:00 -
          [128] 
 
 
 I have arrived
 
 Note that the above screenie was taken after a very exciting 1-on-1 runin with a Red Alliance Malediction. Kudos to Weboide for sticking around after the first volley hit.
 
 "There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!"
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        |  Phoenicia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 21:33:00 -
          [129] 
 Your slightly delayed live N-Rael reporter/propaganda provider posts once again:
 
 
 WarRages is being naughty. Bad Man!
 
 
 
 
 "There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!"
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        |  Logan Williams
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:00:00 -
          [130] 
 
  Originally by: Duraeli Seems to me like we have a bit of a title fight here between the Germans in -V- and the Russians in RA.
 
 I'd love to be on one Universal Teamspeak or Ventrillo server to listen in on that engagement.
 
 
 Russians: (something roughly translated to "Vodka is better than beer")
 
 Germans: (something roughly translated to "Beer is better than Vodka, oh yah, and something about your mother!!")
 
 Russians : (Something difficultly translated to "Vodka is better than beer, oh yah, and something about your mother AND your sister!!")
 
 Germans: (something barely translatable as "Slur slur gurgle *hic* and your little brother too!!")
 
 Russians: ("ZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZZZzzzz")
 Germans : ("ZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz")
 
 
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        |  munchy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:07:00 -
          [131] 
 
  Originally by: Tassi 
  Originally by: munchy yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
 
 
 Munchy you blamed infod that we joined an alliance, and now YOU go to the guys that spamm local with letters i cant decode ...
 
 
 yeah but u joined smelly v!!! its different =P
 and dw about the letters in local dude, alliance chat is so confusing
   
 might be time to take corp russian lessons
   ---
 
 
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        |  Sir JoJo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:14:00 -
          [132] 
 
  Originally by: munchy 
  Originally by: Tassi 
  Originally by: munchy yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
 
 
 Munchy you blamed infod that we joined an alliance, and now YOU go to the guys that spamm local with letters i cant decode ...
 
 
 yeah but u joined smelly v!!! its different =P
 and dw about the letters in local dude, alliance chat is so confusing
   
 might be time to take corp russian lessons
   
 
 i thought ALTZ was better then that RA why??? did u guys kick balta out or what?
 
  Originally by: Eris Discordia As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
 
 
 
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        |  munchy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:19:00 -
          [133] 
 
  Originally by: Sir JoJo 
  Originally by: munchy 
  Originally by: Tassi 
  Originally by: munchy yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
 
 
 Munchy you blamed infod that we joined an alliance, and now YOU go to the guys that spamm local with letters i cant decode ...
 
 
 yeah but u joined smelly v!!! its different =P
 and dw about the letters in local dude, alliance chat is so confusing
   
 might be time to take corp russian lessons
   
 
 i thought ALTZ was better then that RA why??? did u guys kick balta out or what?
 
 
 LOL of course not!! balta was the one who pushed the button
  ---
 
 
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:20:00 -
          [134] 
 1. There is nothing like Germans vs Russians. Dont get game related things into private stuff.Keep it ingame. V isnt only germans and RA isnt only russians.
 2. We posted our view of things, and thats it. After seeing V-members going to post nearly the same level as some RA guys, my message to these members: Stop that pls.Thx.
 3. One mentioned here that V want to get more territory. Wrong. V have no intentions to claim anything more then we have atm. We know what we are able to defend and what not. Some alliances still dont get to that point it seems.
 4. Post your opinion to this thread if you want but if you have nothing more to say then stupid flames and lies, then better shut your mouth before more crap comes out.
 
 Thx
 
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  munchy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:22:00 -
          [135] 
 
  Originally by: HeadHunta II 
 3. One mentioned here that V want to get more territory. Wrong. V have no intentions to claim anything more then we have atm. We know what we are able to defend and what not.
 
 
 
 thats what u said when you were invading gw =P
 ---
 
 
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        |  Phoenicia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:24:00 -
          [136] 
 
  Originally by: Phoenicia Edited by: Phoenicia on 05/01/2006 21:46:10
 Your slightly delayed live N-Rael reporter/propaganda provider posts once again:
 
 
 WarRages is being naughty. Bad Man!
 
 N-Rael update:
 A *very* bad man.
 
 
 
 
 
 Conclusion
 
 N-Rael is safe again. For this day at least.
 
 "There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!"
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        |  Sir JoJo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:38:00 -
          [137] 
 
  Originally by: munchy 
  Originally by: Sir JoJo 
  Originally by: munchy 
  Originally by: Tassi 
  Originally by: munchy yay! war with v again
   been a while since ive had a full on fleet battle with v
 
 
 Munchy you blamed infod that we joined an alliance, and now YOU go to the guys that spamm local with letters i cant decode ...
 
 
 yeah but u joined smelly v!!! its different =P
 and dw about the letters in local dude, alliance chat is so confusing
   
 might be time to take corp russian lessons
   
 
 i thought ALTZ was better then that RA why??? did u guys kick balta out or what?
 
 
 LOL of course not!! balta was the one who pushed the button
  
 
 
 Then stop Brainwash him.....
 
  Originally by: Eris Discordia As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
 
 
 
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 22:52:00 -
          [138] 
 
  Originally by: Phoenicia 
  Originally by: Phoenicia Edited by: Phoenicia on 05/01/2006 21:46:10
 Your slightly delayed live N-Rael reporter/propaganda provider posts once again:
 
 
 WarRages is being naughty. Bad Man!
 
 N-Rael update:
 A *very* bad man.
 
 
 
 
 
 Conclusion
 
 N-Rael is safe again. For this day at least.
 
 
 
  
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        |  putukas
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.05 23:28:00 -
          [139] 
 For me all this offensive attack started from this.
 ok another day camping in n-rael so somekind of alliance Stella Nova alliance jumped in in haulers and we killed one. He screamed on local first this:
 
 Ultimage > freindly
 Ultimage > RED freindly
 Ultimage > stop
 putukas > we know
 putukas > thats why u die
 
 So we killed him. After that they smacked in konora local chat:
 
 Ultimage > jesus *******h christ
 Panoramix > fran, dont jump
 Panoramix > -- V -- are camping
 Ultimage > -- V -- are ******* gankers
 Ultimage > they say its their space. their space my ass
 Infineon > call the ******* alliance on their ass
 Ultimage > we will see about that when F-E, Red alliance
 and our guys ******* ram theird heads up their ass
 Ultimage > and since when is this area anybodys space but RA?
 
 So we wanna make sure everybody knows GW is -V- space not RA¦s not stella nova or who ever.
 End of story.
 
 
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 00:06:00 -
          [140] 
 So Ladys and Gents....and -V- members. Stay on topic. We sayed what -V- do and want. So no smack. Doesnt matter !!!!
 
 We will have nice fights and fun.
 
 So -V- pls stop now !!!!!!!!
 
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  Jack Beauregarde
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 00:28:00 -
          [141] 
 
  Originally by: Light Darkness So Ladys and Gents....and -V- members. Stay on topic. We sayed what -V- do and want. So no smack. Doesnt matter !!!!
 
 We will have nice fights and fun.
 
 So -V- pls stop now !!!!!!!!
 
 
 I don¦t see that -V- didn¦t do anything else than smacktalk in this thread......
  
 GL RA, get up and kick some ass......
  
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 00:47:00 -
          [142] 
 ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Edoo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 01:04:00 -
          [143] 
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 omg... zoom out, turn off turret effects and effects to reduce lag, and do not switch on AB when trying to warp, and you should have tried to activate your armor rep in advance to hitting armor
  
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 01:07:00 -
          [144] 
 
  Originally by: Corak RED lost 0 poses .
 
 
 Sorry to correct you, but you lost a pos in QQ3 and one in JLO - we also lost one other small pos. You lost 2 dreads aswell. Also, maybe you don't understand our goals.
 
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Daroh
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 01:11:00 -
          [145] 
 Edited by: Daroh on 06/01/2006 01:14:24
 We all hope that CCP will fix that lags. Coz that lags are always very hard when we fight against -v- and i never saw such lags before RMR even in much bigger fights. Pilots disconnecting after jumping in gate, impossible to lock targets, devices cannt be activated and just a freeze of screen and disconnect. Its not about modem, i have 60mc ping to CCP.
 Dont forget that we never surrender. Now training for fighting in lags and while disconnected
  gl )
 Edited: dreads are ships ) why we shouldnt lost them in fight and change them on your BS? 2 dreads its only about 4***...not a big price for us )))
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 01:25:00 -
          [146] 
 Sure. VI used drones, to make fight more enjoyable
  -----------------------------------------------
 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 02:53:00 -
          [147] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Sure. VI used drones, to make fight more enjoyable
  
 
 /emote yawn
 
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        |  Chinsor
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 03:43:00 -
          [148] 
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thats the worst lag i've ever seen
  
 
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        |  Qui Chen
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 04:33:00 -
          [149] 
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game!
  you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems.  
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 06:24:00 -
          [150] 
 
  Originally by: Qui Chen 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game!
  you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems.  
 
 Was also present and had the same problems, watched my Brutixs shield slowly go down, then armour, then hull, once hull got to 50% it allowed me to warp out, I slowly started to repair damage then found myself back at the battle in a pod, during the whole thing was unable to move or activate any mods, I'm afraid no matter how much you stamp your feet EVERYONE is experiancing the exact same thing ITS NOT JUST YOU, so stop using this an any form of a defense everytime you lose a battle, we all have to use the same server.....
 
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        |  Crellion
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 06:48:00 -
          [151] 
 Please try to post sane and close to reasonable opinions in this thread. I read it all and was amazed. I am sorry that -v- command has effectively posted here that we are not to reply. I dont mind I get my fun in space. Good luck to all.
 
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        |  Bluestealth
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 07:18:00 -
          [152] 
 Hi everyone, can people start scheduling things during late US time? k thanks :)
 
 lo Sir JoJo... and the others
 
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        |  DarkAgent
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 11:20:00 -
          [153] 
 Edited by: DarkAgent on 06/01/2006 11:21:22
 Edited by: DarkAgent on 06/01/2006 11:20:27
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well but LAG doesn't only occur to you, it's the same for everyone.
 I had the exactly same kind of lag in another battle with RA after we killed a pos (i think it was in qq3) and lost my ship.
 Yes of course it's near to unplayable, but it's not unfair.
 Maybe that Vid will make some developers think about that lag, allthough I doubt it.
 
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        |  el toppolino
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 11:27:00 -
          [154] 
 well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P
 
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 11:46:00 -
          [155] 
 Hmmm reading this loooong tread I tought that a declaration of war from -V- was on the way ... but nothing appeared in my eve mail
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 11:47:00 -
          [156] 
 
  Originally by: DeadDuck Hmmm reading this loooong tread I tought that a declaration of war from -V- was on the way ... but nothing appeared in my eve mail
  
 
 
 Whats the point in wasting isk, neither of our sides spend much time if any in empire.
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Dak Torin
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:21:00 -
          [157] 
 Im sure we could make the war mutal.
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:36:00 -
          [158] 
 well i'd like to add something. Lag will be terrible for the one jumping in (we had those kind of problems with HF) while the lag for the ones jumped will be minimal.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:37:00 -
          [159] 
 
  Originally by: el toppolino Edited by: el toppolino on 06/01/2006 11:33:30
 well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P
 
 and btw corak: i have never ever seen such an incorrect killboard as the on of red alliance. i miss about half of the lossmails if not even more (note: this is not smack)
 
 
 ravens have EW nowadays. Corak does what we all do.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Siobhan Ni
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:38:00 -
          [160] 
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 I made a few observations in that video that may explain why some people had lag. The video author had sound enabled, turrent effect and all other effects enabled. These three things contribute significantly to client lag. I always turn them all off. I also seen a lot of drones shooting the retribution in the video, and perhaps killing it. We used our drones to attack frigs, not to cause lag as some RA have suggested. N-RAEL does seem to suffer badly from lag and no one side suffers from it exclusively. Perhaps the devs could divert more resrouces to this choke point?
 
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        |  munchy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:42:00 -
          [161] 
 
  Originally by: el toppolino Edited by: el toppolino on 06/01/2006 11:33:30
 well hearing the target calling explains much for me. not a good choice in my opinion in most case. but keep on calling ravens primary :P
 
 and btw corak: i have never ever seen such an incorrect killboard as the on of red alliance. i miss about half of the lossmails if not even more (note: this is not smack)
 
 
 i love the v killboard, been keeping track of it for a while, and i like the whole fleet battle thing, but V's killboard is far from accurate, it says you've only ever lost like 1 fleet battle =/ and at least half of your losses are not posted. personally i've barely looked at the RA kms so far but most kms's are missing kills and losses.
 ---
 
 
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        |  Harcole
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:54:00 -
          [162] 
 
  Originally by: Edoo 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 omg... zoom out, turn off turret effects and effects to reduce lag, and do not switch on AB when trying to warp, and you should have tried to activate your armor rep in advance to hitting armor
  
 
 as for the zoome out turn off effect and stuff... why? I can assure you its not client lag, I'm not going to post here but needless to say my current machine can circles round eve...
 
 As for the AB, it was more a case of... OMG it worked, than quick hit AB I'm trying to warp. I spent 5 mintues trying to shoot that merlin(?) that I was bouncing! Any roads don't hijack the thread, I fight my way be it right wrong or in-different, as long as I'm trying I'm happy .
 
 Cheers
 Harcole
  
 
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 12:56:00 -
          [163] 
 To found out the real losses from both sides you have to match both killing boards involved in a fleet battle. Most probably people will post all their victorys but the big majority will not post is losses
  . 
 So to found out the final result just let it pass 24h and check all the victorious kill mails from both sides and you will see who killed more in one battle.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Virtua Ursula
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 15:54:00 -
          [164] 
 
  Originally by: Phoenicia 
 I have arrived
 Note that the above screenie was taken after a very exciting 1-on-1 runin with a Red Alliance Malediction. Kudos to Weboide for sticking around after the first volley hit.
 
 
 Heyhey, i really liked that fight, too bad i couldn't get you before that last cruise missile...
 Anyway, i had fun, thanks Phoenicia
  Maybe sometime we'll try this again.  
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        |  weboide
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 15:59:00 -
          [165] 
 
  Originally by: Phoenicia 
 I have arrived
 Note that the above screenie was taken after a very exciting 1-on-1 runin with a Red Alliance Malediction. Kudos to Weboide for sticking around after the first volley hit.
 
 
 Heyhey, i really liked that fight, too bad i couldn't get you before that last cruise missile...
 Anyway, i had fun, thanks Phoenicia
  Maybe sometime we'll try this again.  
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        |  sallyr
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 17:04:00 -
          [166] 
 
  Originally by: Nebuli 
  Originally by: Qui Chen 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game!
  you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems.  
 
 Was also present and had the same problems, watched my Brutixs shield slowly go down, then armour, then hull, once hull got to 50% it allowed me to warp out, I slowly started to repair damage then found myself back at the battle in a pod, during the whole thing was unable to move or activate any mods, I'm afraid no matter how much you stamp your feet EVERYONE is experiancing the exact same thing ITS NOT JUST YOU, so stop using this an any form of a defense everytime you lose a battle, we all have to use the same server.....
 
 
 
 we already went over this, but i dont really care. The fact of the matter if you have the same problems then how the hell can u kill anything?
 i know i couldnt have killed anything with the lag i had, so how did you win an unfightable fight?
 Its just funny how over and over again you say we had the same thing and we won. when with the experience i had i dont see how any1 could have even fired!
 (\_/)
 (O.o)
 (> <)
 
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        |  Oursulag
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.06 18:16:00 -
          [167] 
 Tbh this whole killboard discussion is pointless. Both sides obviously don't post all their losses. I mean, c'mon, one of the dreadnought killmails hasnt even been posted, then how can you seriously claim the killboards to be useful, or even accurate?
 
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        |  Grunton
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 01:13:00 -
          [168] 
 I cannot speak for other corps who are friends of alliances but speaking from personal experience:
 
 My corp flies along with a lot of different groups, I make kills and I die (more of the latter), I post neither my kills or my losses on any kill board. So if I am flying with a gang and I get shot down the loss only gets recorded on the kill board of the person who made the kill. Not sure how wide spread this scenario is but it does occur.
 
 And before someone tells me to get a kill board, YOU pay for it and I will use it.
 
 On another note:
 
 Death to -V-!
  
 
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        |  ninja boy
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 05:30:00 -
          [169] 
 hmmm lets put some "full size" killmails....
  
 http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=kill&id=25603
 
 -1 dread......
  
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 08:03:00 -
          [170] 
 Section XIII 4TW !!!
  Veritas ask ccp fix lafs and can stay without kill :)
 here is sam kills too
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Kim Wu
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 09:02:00 -
          [171] 
 bleh
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 10:55:00 -
          [172] 
 
  Originally by: ninja boy hmmm lets put some "full size" killmails....
  
 http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=kill&id=25603
 
 -1 dread......
  
 
 Bless, we got 2
  
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Crellion
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 11:40:00 -
          [173] 
 
  Originally by: sallyr 
  Originally by: Nebuli 
  Originally by: Qui Chen 
  Originally by: Corak ok . RED is now were like Xetics aliance, 1500 members is not 30 its jast lot easy targets . but we need say thk to CCP (meby not to CCP) for they good game witout GAME LAGS
  . how its look you can see here . but veritas tacklers skramb without problem and do DM too  to Hed Hunta - V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 can you show any skrin ?
 i know you lost large POS in JLO and put second ant atm in JLO is 1 your and 2 us Large . RED lost 0 poses .
 here you can wach kills and loses when i is gang leader
 
 
 
 
 
 i was in this -V- gang! i shot one of your Megathrons down and then: nothing, zero, njente, nada ... out of game!
  you know what i mean? you are not alone with this problems.  
 
 Was also present and had the same problems, watched my Brutixs shield slowly go down, then armour, then hull, once hull got to 50% it allowed me to warp out, I slowly started to repair damage then found myself back at the battle in a pod, during the whole thing was unable to move or activate any mods, I'm afraid no matter how much you stamp your feet EVERYONE is experiancing the exact same thing ITS NOT JUST YOU, so stop using this an any form of a defense everytime you lose a battle, we all have to use the same server.....
 
 
 
 we already went over this, but i dont really care. The fact of the matter if you have the same problems then how the hell can u kill anything?
 i know i couldnt have killed anything with the lag i had, so how did you win an unfightable fight?
 Its just funny how over and over again you say we had the same thing and we won. when with the experience i had i dont see how any1 could have even fired!
 
 
 
 
 Are you actually saying: "-v- zomg haxors wtfbbq me" ? If you are pls note this is like the oldest self humiliating post in eve... gj
 
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        |  Komolov
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 12:09:00 -
          [174] 
 French power!
  
 LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads.
 
 Hope it was fun and good fight for both sides.
 
 --------------------
 Sincerely yours,
 Dmitry V. Komolov
 FSP-B
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 13:18:00 -
          [175] 
 
  Originally by: Komolov French power!
  
 LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads.
 
 Hope it was fun and good fight for both sides.
 
 
 Lol...yea that wasnt calculatet. But we got our goal.
 
 Was a nice fight. Now i must look bevore every jump that i got enough cap.
  
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 13:32:00 -
          [176] 
 
  Originally by: Komolov French power!
  
 LD made new record 'cause he's atm only pilot in EVE who already lost two dreads.
 
 
 
 
 Well that alsow means that he is actually using them to fight, and not only to be parked somewhere. Wich I must admit is nice
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Zakalwe
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 15:15:00 -
          [177] 
 Any clue about those killboard probs but at the time i write here :
 
 January 7 :
 
 RA KB declare 2 lossemail.
 
 -V- KB declare 13 RA killmails.
 
 Last killmails from -V- time 14.23
 Now look time i write this post : so the cause is not time to post KM.
 The cause is another thing : RA KB (losses) are not near the truth.
 
 On the other side
 
 -V- declare 4 lossemails
 
 RA KB declare : 11 KM
 -V- KB (losses) are not near the truth.
 
 To get a clue of the real thing, you have to count the kill from both side, lossemails arent posted.
 None the lesse we could say that to describe the reality of losses, -V- is first !
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hmmm...
 
 Dan Simmons Hyperion and Iain.M.Banks Culture Novels : for SF Connoisseurs only
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        |  DarkAgent
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 17:01:00 -
          [178] 
 i posted a thread in te ideas forum about a neutral killboard that uses the serverlogs as source. if you want to contribute, go ahead: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=274391
 
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 17:28:00 -
          [179] 
 
  Originally by: Corak Section XIII 4TW !!!
  Veritas ask ccp fix lafs and can stay without kill :)
 here is sam kills too
 
 
 Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing.
 Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+.
 
 I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up.
 
 The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers.
 
 Shame it has to come to offhours POS wars. (witch i cant attend due to RL)
 
 Altho there is light in the end of this dark road... i notice RED's regrouping, could it be true........
 
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        |  Amerame
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 18:03:00 -
          [180] 
 
  Originally by: Freya Selene 
 
 Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing.
 Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+.
 
 I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up.
 
 The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers.
 
 
 
 
 It might actually be hard to understand but people do play when you're not online, and stuff happens when you're not around. Saying RA has not engaged a single -V- just make you look like a fool.
 
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        |  Drew Kelly
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 19:13:00 -
          [181] 
 Edited by: Drew Kelly on 07/01/2006 19:14:18
 
  Originally by: Freya Selene 
 
 Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing.
 Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+.
 
 I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up.
 
 The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers.
 
 Shame it has to come to offhours POS wars. (witch i cant attend due to RL)
 
 Altho there is light in the end of this dark road... i notice RED's regrouping, could it be true........
 
 
 Most people dont realize this but the timezones between -V- and RA are definitly a huge factor in this war. So whenever you have a big fleet RA is not capable of matching and whenever we have a big fleet you are not capable of matching; this is not always true but is true most of time. Anyways it is the small fights that are the fun ones for now, the big ones just lag. and btw I love my Tempest
  
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 19:57:00 -
          [182] 
 
  Originally by: Drew Kelly Edited by: Drew Kelly on 07/01/2006 19:14:18
 
  Originally by: Freya Selene 
 
 Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing.
 Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+.
 
 I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up.
 
 The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers.
 
 Shame it has to come to offhours POS wars. (witch i cant attend due to RL)
 
 Altho there is light in the end of this dark road... i notice RED's regrouping, could it be true........
 
 
 Most people dont realize this but the timezones between -V- and RA are definitly a huge factor in this war. So whenever you have a big fleet RA is not capable of matching and whenever we have a big fleet you are not capable of matching; this is not always true but is true most of time. Anyways it is the small fights that are the fun ones for now, the big ones just lag. and btw I love my Tempest
  
 
 Sleep is for the weak
  
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  prathe
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 20:56:00 -
          [183] 
 ahhh well blah blah blah lets just have fun grab some kills then we can chat and chastise each other to death when it's over .
  
 
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 22:08:00 -
          [184] 
 
  Originally by: prathe ahhh well blah blah blah lets just have fun grab some kills then we can chat and chastise each other to death when it's over .
  
 
 
 Totally agree ;)
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.07 22:36:00 -
          [185] 
 
  Originally by: Drew Kelly Edited by: Drew Kelly on 07/01/2006 19:14:18
 
  Originally by: Freya Selene 
 
 Watching that killboard i can only conclude one thing.
 Interceptions on the back of wondering persons gething ganged 1 vs 6+.
 
 I have flown in some fleet ops now and iam disapointed that RED has not enganged any single fleet we brought up.
 
 The only time i see RED use battleships is when they sit at 100km away from jumpgates fit with snipersetup and stabelisers.
 
 Shame it has to come to offhours POS wars. (witch i cant attend due to RL)
 
 Altho there is light in the end of this dark road... i notice RED's regrouping, could it be true........
 
 
 Most people dont realize this but the timezones between -V- and RA are definitly a huge factor in this war. So whenever you have a big fleet RA is not capable of matching and whenever we have a big fleet you are not capable of matching; this is not always true but is true most of time. Anyways it is the small fights that are the fun ones for now, the big ones just lag. and btw I love my Tempest
  
 
 Dont know exactly about the timezones, indeed that shall be a big factor. I live in Europa in GMT+1. Sorry i cant be there when you all are massivly online.
 
 But about able to match. If RED is able to field 25 frigs/cruisers to skirmish that would easy counter the gang of 20 i where in last night if they did field battleships.
 
 My appoligies as i might believe myself is starting to flame, but thats probly couse we all like to win badly
  
 I wish everyone happy hunting, and ill refrain myself from posting on this subject...... for now..
  
 See ya in S.Pass!
 
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        |  MACTEP
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 16:13:00 -
          [186] 
 Edited by: MACTEP on 10/01/2006 16:22:16
 
  Originally by: HeadHunta II 
 
 The battle results for now:
 
 1.- V won all larger Fleet engagements vs a very confused acting RA the last days and killed a lot of RA ships.
 2.- V took their station in scalding pass, killed 2 POS for now.
 3.- V killed 2 of their Dreadnought¦s this morning, which were obviously not prepared for anything.
 
 
 
 
 1. Won ? realy? lags / bookmarks warriors.....stop using game bugs and fight honestly(i am talking about combats 20+ ships)
 2.right..np we ll take it back anyway
 3.right..np we bought 2 new
 
 anyway you have lots of good fighters
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 16:36:00 -
          [187] 
 ok RED don`t post loses in 60% on us killboard and 20% kills too :)
 but atm in game with nice ccp lags we can`1t fight if in lokal is 15+ members .
 yestarday we go 56 members gang and on every gate 5-8 members jast crashed .
 BIG thk to CCP
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 16:49:00 -
          [188] 
 
  Originally by: MACTEP 1. Won ? realy? lags / bookmarks warriors.....stop using game bugs and fight honestly(i am talking about combats 20+ ships)
 
 
 FRBYT  (read before you talk)
 
 And other than that, it's really only amusing to see you blaming the loss on anything , except your opponents skills/luck/tactics. Says something about your ability to cope with losing, doesn't it?
  
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 16:57:00 -
          [189] 
 I'm sorry but wtf are you on about with the bkmks, is this the best excuse you guys can come up with for losing?
 
 Everyday I read some RA posts and chat to pilots in local and start to get some respect for you guys, then you post utter **** like this.
 
 So much I could comment on about lame tactics, but I wont because that would be lowering myself to your standard, but you have got to stop using excuses like bkmk copying and stuff, where the hell you get this crap from I realy dont know.
 
 Ask any of our enemys we have fought, we are always honorable pilots who dont smack in local, honor 1 vs 1s etc, we play to fight, we play to pvp, we WANT fleet fights, you think we want to lag out?
 
 Real;y goes to show how much you guys are struggling when you keap pulling the exploit cards.
 
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        |  Exaali Vendraxxil
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 20:02:00 -
          [190] 
 The way I see it, you guys (V) are trying to have it both ways here. On the one hand, you're "lagging out" just like we are. On the other hand, you're "pwning us with your superior tactics and skill." So, which is it? I don't see how both statements can be true. How can your "superior tactics" even come into play in a fleet battle when you're all "lagged out"?
  
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        |  Sethon
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 20:11:00 -
          [191] 
 
  Originally by: putukas For me all this offensive attack started from this.
 ok another day camping in n-rael so somekind of alliance Stella Nova alliance jumped in in haulers and we killed one. He screamed on local first this:
 
 Ultimage > freindly
 Ultimage > RED freindly
 Ultimage > stop
 putukas > we know
 putukas > thats why u die
 
 So we killed him. After that they smacked in konora local chat:
 
 Ultimage > jesus *******h christ
 Panoramix > fran, dont jump
 Panoramix > -- V -- are camping
 Ultimage > -- V -- are ******* gankers
 Ultimage > they say its their space. their space my ass
 Infineon > call the ******* alliance on their ass
 Ultimage > we will see about that when F-E, Red alliance
 and our guys ******* ram theird heads up their ass
 Ultimage > and since when is this area anybodys space but RA?
 
 So we wanna make sure everybody knows GW is -V- space not RA¦s not stella nova or who ever.
 End of story.
 
 
 
 Stella Nova United policy, is no smack, and if you cannot say GF or something nice, return with a fighting ship to fix it, or don't say anything. I will handle this personally, and smacking from SNU will not be tolerated.
 
 If any SNU member smacks, in local, evemail, private convo I want a log of it, and I will deal with such pilots harshly.
 
 We recognize GW and N-Rael as -v- territory, and may our future fights be clean, and without smack.
 
 Sethon,
 Chairman
 Stella Nova United
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        |  DarkAgent
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 20:12:00 -
          [192] 
 Edited by: DarkAgent on 10/01/2006 20:15:45
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil The way I see it, you guys (V) are trying to have it both ways here. On the one hand, you're "lagging out" just like we are. On the other hand, you're "pwning us with your superior tactics and skill." So, which is it? I don't see how both statements can be true. How can your "superior tactics" even come into play in a fleet battle when you're all "lagged out"?
  
 
 were killing you with our "superior tactics" allthough we lag as well :D
 
 I would really like to have a statement of the developers about this lag and the bookmark issue. I don't think that bookmark stuff even works.
 
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        |  Shinnen
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 22:03:00 -
          [193] 
 RA cannot face that they are simply worse PvPers.
 
 WE ROOOOOOOOOOOL!
 
 RA SUCKS
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 INFOD
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        |  Aramark
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:02:00 -
          [194] 
 i have had fun in battles with RA. it is a game, and play as one. but i just have a question to any -v- that can awnswer. after a battle i was order to pick up loot and doing so. i found a can with over a 1000 bookmarks in a couple cans. again i am not flaming just am wondering why some of your pilots are flying around with thousands of bookmarks in there cargo hold. and if you don't want to answer here that is fine, my eve mail works just fine. best of luck to all and GF's
 
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        |  Exodusi Animus
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:25:00 -
          [195] 
 Edited by: Exodusi Animus on 10/01/2006 23:26:07
 Edited by: Exodusi Animus on 10/01/2006 23:25:54
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        |  Shinnen
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:28:00 -
          [196] 
 
  Originally by: Aramark i found a can with over a 1000 bookmarks in a couple cans.
 
 
 A) that makes no sense
 B) you lie!
 
 
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 INFOD
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        |  Ultimage
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:29:00 -
          [197] 
 Edited by: Ultimage on 10/01/2006 23:29:31
 
  Quote: For me all this offensive attack started from this.
 ok another day camping in n-rael so somekind of alliance Stella Nova alliance jumped in in haulers and we killed one. He screamed on local first this:
 
 Ultimage > freindly
 Ultimage > RED freindly
 Ultimage > stop
 putukas > we know
 putukas > thats why u die
 
 So we killed him. After that they smacked in konora local chat:
 
 Ultimage > jesus *******h christ
 Panoramix > fran, dont jump
 Panoramix > -- V -- are camping
 Ultimage > -- V -- are ******* gankers
 Ultimage > they say its their space. their space my ass
 Infineon > call the ******* alliance on their ass
 Ultimage > we will see about that when F-E, Red alliance
 and our guys ******* ram theird heads up their ass
 Ultimage > and since when is this area anybodys space but RA?
 
 So we wanna make sure everybody knows GW is -V- space not RA¦s not stella nova or who ever.
 End of story.
 
 
 This was me being stupid and showing my newbness at the time. Gotta respect -v- and the power they have in GW. Why they cant come to some accomadation with RA is beyond me tho.....
 
 
 Ultimage
 CEO, Exodus Centre Librettist
 
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        |  Darkrydar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:39:00 -
          [198] 
 AHAHA, it seems the RA Excuse Machine is in full swing.
 
 Face it, your small pos tower deployment simply won't cut it anymore.
 You got nerfed.
 I laughed.
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.10 23:48:00 -
          [199] 
 
  Originally by: Ultimage 
 
 This was me being stupid and showing my newbness at the time. Gotta respect -v- and the power they have in GW. Why they cant come to some accomadation with RA is beyond me tho.....
 
 
 
 
 Well like was said in the announcement, we tried for open discussions and RA threw it back in our face. Now they are suffering from their own arrogance.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Nebuli
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 02:47:00 -
          [200] 
 
  Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil The way I see it, you guys (V) are trying to have it both ways here. On the one hand, you're "lagging out" just like we are. On the other hand, you're "pwning us with your superior tactics and skill." So, which is it? I don't see how both statements can be true. How can your "superior tactics" even come into play in a fleet battle when you're all "lagged out"?
  
 
 N-RAEL fleet fight where your video was made, it clearly demonstrates your lack of co-ordination and discipline in battle, you had a FC calling targets right? I was totaly lagged out during the entire fight, couldnt activate a single module or move, I was killed by one of your ravens and a frig, now listen to the video again, does it ever mention my name as a primary? nope it does not, so why were 2 ships engaging me?
 
 Just quit with the excuses its getting boring it realy is, like today a RED chap jumps into the system, whats the first thing he says? "OMG you V bkmk copiers, havnt lagged all day the second I jump into a system with you I lag badly, haxsors" or something to that effect.
 
 What do you honestly think we do, sit in the system all day copying bkmks waiting for some RED to jump in? you must be crazy, and besides lets say, for example that is what we do, I have yet to see any proof that copying bkmks lags out the entire system and everyone in it anyway, I mean come on, and even if that were the case WE WOULD LAG JUST AS BAD, so your entire argument is moot anyway, even if we did (which we dont) copy bkmks to the lag the system we both have the same lag, so guess what, back to square one and both having the same problem.
 
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 03:34:00 -
          [201] 
 
  Originally by: Aramark i have had fun in battles with RA. it is a game, and play as one. but i just have a question to any -v- that can awnswer. after a battle i was order to pick up loot and doing so. i found a can with over a 1000 bookmarks in a couple cans. again i am not flaming just am wondering why some of your pilots are flying around with thousands of bookmarks in there cargo hold. and if you don't want to answer here that is fine, my eve mail works just fine. best of luck to all and GF's
 
 
 Ofcourse you made a screenshot to backup your accusation.
  
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        |  Aramark
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 03:58:00 -
          [202] 
 screen shots were taken yes sir.
 
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        |  Freya Selene
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 04:04:00 -
          [203] 
 
  Originally by: Aramark screen shots were taken yes sir.
 
 
 Then could you be so kind to post the screenshot and show the name of the canister?
 
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        |  Aramark
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 04:43:00 -
          [204] 
 waiting the respose from CCP to see what the outcome is. was told to "sit tight until investigation was complete." maybe you are all right. i'm not pointing fingers hence i asked. i'll wait until ccp as gettin back to me before i post anything more on that subject.
 until than, is there any idea when the lag will be fixed?
 
 cheers and GL to all
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 07:59:00 -
          [205] 
 ok . yestarday us gang 14 members warp on CHIMP gang in detorid CHIMP be 20-25 at gate and in lokal be ~70 members .
 after warp on gate we have 0 lags --------- 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!
 next - all a live and all go to seif :) sfter this i and Fenix UA go on POS and take shatles and go to konora ( and be were happy about no lags ) but when we be closer to Scalding Pass we start laged (litle) oh and when we jamp in 1v- sistem on us gate be ~5-7 Veritas inters ------------ BIG LAG , Fenix UA warping away from gate to 1 mil km and laged on this CCP seif spot 5 min . ok whats a point ------------------------ WAY WE LAGED IF IN LOKAL , ON GATE IS VERITAS MEMBERS AND WHY WE DON`T LAGED IF WE FIGHT VS ANATHERE ENEMEIES ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 and + you uber pvprs (who can kill only noobs) why you don`t go fight in empire you seat in 0.0 in n-rael 2j from your fleet is 5 us members gang but you don`t go !!!!!!!!!!??????? meby you jast can`t kreate lags in empire ???
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 08:41:00 -
          [206] 
 
  Originally by: Corak ok . yestarday us gang 14 members warp on CHIMP gang in detorid CHIMP be 20-25 at gate and in lokal be ~70 members .
 after warp on gate we have 0 lags --------- 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!
 next - all a live and all go to seif :) sfter this i and Fenix UA go on POS and take shatles and go to konora ( and be were happy about no lags ) but when we be closer to Scalding Pass we start laged (litle) oh and when we jamp in 1v- sistem on us gate be ~5-7 Veritas inters ------------ BIG LAG , Fenix UA warping away from gate to 1 mil km and laged on this CCP seif spot 5 min . ok whats a point ------------------------ WAY WE LAGED IF IN LOKAL , ON GATE IS VERITAS MEMBERS AND WHY WE DON`T LAGED IF WE FIGHT VS ANATHERE ENEMEIES ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 and + you uber pvprs (who can kill only noobs) why you don`t go fight in empire you seat in 0.0 in n-rael 2j from your fleet is 5 us members gang but you don`t go !!!!!!!!!!??????? meby you jast can`t kreate lags in empire ???
 
 
 lol! First calm down. Secondly, using your evidence, which is backed up by some rather convincing punctuation, it must be true that v members emit lag wherever they go. Also, yeah, our lag modules are 0.0 only modules.
 
 On a more serious note, you look like a right fool posting this drivel, in another thread on this forum there is a kill mail of an RA POD with loads of BMs in his hold, strange huh? But I suppose the ones who scream it loudest are most right, huh?
 
 If you're gonna continually scream exploit at us, I'll petition the BOB GMs under harrasment and they'll sort you out. You think we exploit, petition it, just like we did when we noticed many RA members continued to use wasps, and when certain other questionable "tactics" were employed.
 
 I suggest you take a self-imposed holiday from this thread, you seem only to get worked up by it and it can't be good for your health.
 
 Oh and on the empire note.. Why the hell would Veritas relocate to empire to attack you.. have you seen the map.. the route to your space? Our conflict is over 0.0, no declaration will change that.
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Cardassius
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 08:54:00 -
          [207] 
 I'm sorry corak, but I've seen movies of RED alliance members opening their eve-mail, having sound on, overview opened up etc..
 You know those things lag you badly? Escpecially when in a battle?
 
 I've fought you and your guys a lot and I never expected you to be so childish like you are now.
 
 A few pointers when going into battle:
 - don't open eve-mail
 - have overview settings to show only enemies
 - close overview when jumping/warping into enemy fleet
 
 
 ASCI Recruiting!
 
 
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 08:59:00 -
          [208] 
 RA, i'm sorry, but you are sounding like crying little school girls.
 
 Honestly, read back through your posts, your sounding pathetic. Your loosing engagements plain and simple because youa re disorganised, it has nothing to do with us. If you really believe that some guy is gonna sit there copying bookmarks while he's seeing enemy flash up on his overview then i'm sorry you must be totally stupid.
 
 No, the more likely answer is that we are inflicting heavy losses on you and the RA propoganda machine is in full swing to come up with an excuse so the rest of the players that don't like you don't start realising that the mighty RA actually isn't as mighty as you led everyone to believe and that you cannot hold your space.
 
 Now doesn't that sound more like the truth.
 
 Grow up.
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:00:00 -
          [209] 
 Edited by: Darcuese on 11/01/2006 09:01:21
 funny reading
  
 I guess RA F1, F2, F3, etc,etc dont work that well
  Maybe you should just join ISS since you are POS masters
  [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:01:00 -
          [210] 
 Yeah, expected a little more of a serious debate than this hax'nsploits screaming, especially from you Corak..
 
 If there's anything to it, I'm sure the GMs will sort it out. If not, then they'll let you know.
 
 Reading the latest RA replies, the only thing that comes to my mind is the picture of a russian crying in front of his monitor somewhere in Siberia...
 
 -------------------------------
 Dont speak english... anchor, anchor anchor..
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:04:00 -
          [211] 
 
  Originally by: Cardassius 
 A few pointers when going into battle:
 - don't open eve-mail
 - have overview settings to show only enemies
 - close overview when jumping/warping into enemy fleet
 
 
 
 I do every bit of this every day, and steel CTDed on every second jump, or on every jump, when you are nearby or in same constalation/region. Yesterday there wasn't even minimal lag when meet LV gang of 36 pilots, or was warping on CHIMP gang.
 
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        |  Cardassius
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:14:00 -
          [212] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 I do every bit of this every day, and steel CTDed on every second jump, or on every jump, when you are nearby or in same constalation/region. Yesterday there wasn't even minimal lag when meet LV gang of 36 pilots, or was warping on CHIMP gang.
 
 
 ASK RAT if they had lag in e02 fighting us 30 vs 30.
 
 I had NO CTD in 2006 YET, while others of my alliance have constant CTD's.
 Could be their PC setups?
 
 I've flown from konora to e02 and seen many CTD and more lagwarp out when jumping in. I've had lagwarpouts once or twice.
 
 
 
 ASCI Recruiting!
 
 
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:22:00 -
          [213] 
 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati Reading the latest RA replies, the only thing that comes to my mind is the picture of a russian crying in front of his monitor somewhere in Siberia...
 
 
 This one looks like a harrasment...
 
 
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:26:00 -
          [214] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati Reading the latest RA replies, the only thing that comes to my mind is the picture of a russian crying in front of his monitor somewhere in Siberia...
 
 
 This one looks like a harrasment...
 
 
 
 oh for god sake, stop clutching at straws.
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:30:00 -
          [215] 
 
  Originally by: Pepperami 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati Reading the latest RA replies, the only thing that comes to my mind is the picture of a russian crying in front of his monitor somewhere in Siberia...
 
 
 This one looks like a harrasment...
 
 
 
 oh for god sake, stop clutching at straws.
 
 
 Then stop beating your chest and say that you win fight by your superior skill and tactic when half of enemy fleet could shoot at you due to been lagged.
 Until then I leaving myslef right to:
  Quote: clutching at straws
 
 
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:35:00 -
          [216] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati Reading the latest RA replies, the only thing that comes to my mind is the picture of a russian crying in front of his monitor somewhere in Siberia...
 
 
 This one looks like a harrasment...
 
 
 
 Ok, so me thinking and picturing you guys being russian (probably because you talk russian in local half the time) is harrasment, but you accussing a large group of people of misusing and abusing the game without any shred of evidence is not?
  
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:37:00 -
          [217] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 Until then I leaving myslef right to:
  Quote: clutching at straws
 
 
 
 Cool. So long as we're in agreement that that is all you're doing.
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:41:00 -
          [218] 
 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati Ok, so me thinking and picturing you guys being russian (probably because you talk russian in local half the time) is harrasment, but you accussing a large group of people of misusing and abusing the game without any shred of evidence is not?
  
 
 When it happens once - It's bad luck
 When in happens second time - It's puting some thought into your's head
 When it happens every time - It is regularity, and should be dealt with.
 
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 09:54:00 -
          [219] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct When it happens once - It's bad luck
 When in happens second time - It's puting some thought into your's head
 When it happens every time - It is regularity, and should be dealt with.
 
 
 There could be other sources you know, as mentioned before. Might be the longer physical telephone lines (Germany for instance is much closer to the UK and iceland than Russia for instance). Might be different approaches and measures to handle with lag (see Carda's reply). I could go on speculating, but in the end neither your or my words will solve anything.
 
 Let the GMs do their job and let's get back ingame.
 
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        |  Kriger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 10:42:00 -
          [220] 
 At this point id like to urge all -V- members to stop commenting on RA's exploit accusations.
 They are obviously beyond any sane, normal reasoning, so lets not waste more time and energy on it. Fortunately it seems that most (sane) ppl in EVE can see through RA's behavior, so let's just kill these guys n get it over with.
 
 Kriger
 
 
 -[the above represent my views alone, not those of my corp or alliance unless stated otherwise]-
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        |  Faruda
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:16:00 -
          [221] 
 
  Originally by: Kriger At this point id like to urge all -V- members to stop commenting on RA's exploit accusations.
 They are obviously beyond any sane, normal reasoning, so lets not waste more time and energy on it. Fortunately it seems that most (sane) ppl in EVE can see through RA's behavior, so let's just kill these guys n get it over with.
 
 Very funny. Only Veritas members howls and whines, but it is RA behaviour? Why? O, yes! Gebbels-style propaganda... Good disciple.
 
 Btw, in this thread Veritas have won RA. What is the situation on battlefield? Are Veritas going to follow by The Five path?
 
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        |  Mimio
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:19:00 -
          [222] 
 Edited by: Mimio on 11/01/2006 12:21:16
 Wrong post
 
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:23:00 -
          [223] 
 
  Originally by: Mimio Edited by: Mimio on 11/01/2006 12:21:16
 Wrong post
 
 
 
   [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  DarkAgent
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:33:00 -
          [224] 
 I think this stupid discussion is allready going far to long. So I demand the GM's or whoever got authority to judge the situation so that all this proveless accusations are dealt with for once and forall.
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:44:00 -
          [225] 
 
  Originally by: Pepperami 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 Until then I leaving myslef right to:
  Quote: clutching at straws
 
 
 
 Cool. So long as we're in agreement that that is all you're doing.
 
 
 Meh, thelung187 alt?
 
 Do you see my bear next to me?
 Do you see me feeding it with vodka and children?
 Do you see the children I sell to live and eat?
 Do you see the roids I sell on ebay?
 Do you see the KGB agents next to you?
 
 Are you just stupid?
 
 LD, make this stop please.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 12:45:00 -
          [226] 
 
  Originally by: DjDangle RA, i'm sorry, but you are sounding like crying little school girls.
 
 Honestly, read back through your posts, your sounding pathetic. Your loosing engagements plain and simple because youa re disorganised, it has nothing to do with us. If you really believe that some guy is gonna sit there copying bookmarks while he's seeing enemy flash up on his overview then i'm sorry you must be totally stupid.
 
 No, the more likely answer is that we are inflicting heavy losses on you and the RA propoganda machine is in full swing to come up with an excuse so the rest of the players that don't like you don't start realising that the mighty RA actually isn't as mighty as you led everyone to believe and that you cannot hold your space.
 
 Now doesn't that sound more like the truth.
 
 Grow up.
 
 
 the mighty dj spoke.
 
 now let me go puke.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:01:00 -
          [227] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
 
 the mighty dj spoke.
 
 
 
 
 And don't you forget it
  
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:09:00 -
          [228] 
 
  Originally by: Cardassius 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 I do every bit of this every day, and steel CTDed on every second jump, or on every jump, when you are nearby or in same constalation/region. Yesterday there wasn't even minimal lag when meet LV gang of 36 pilots, or was warping on CHIMP gang.
 
 
 ASK RAT if they had lag in e02 fighting us 30 vs 30.
 
 I had NO CTD in 2006 YET, while others of my alliance have constant CTD's.
 Could be their PC setups?
 
 I've flown from konora to e02 and seen many CTD and more lagwarp out when jumping in. I've had lagwarpouts once or twice.
 
 
 
 
 You wanted to ask RAT. about lag in e02 battle ?
 HAHHAHAHAHAH
 e02 = NOT LAGGY BATTLE !
 
 Hint. All effects turned off. All turret effects - too. No opening ppl and places. Still shooting by invisible enemys 4tw. Another hint. There is enemy fleet, sitting @ station, about 30 ships. Can you see them ? Me - not.
 
 Skill is always the same. Even with lags like those - we came on top with kills. And dont tell bull****, that this battle was 30 v 30. 25 vs 50 - more real. ****loads of t1 frigs 4tw.
 -----------------------------------------------
 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  coldheat
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:24:00 -
          [229] 
 Well reading all this crap posted here time to make up balance and say the things that need to be said.
 
 
 As always my conclusion is again everybody talking like they are THE OWNER and same people doing the SMACK again to even make things more worse and dramatise it all up. After reading this the people that post here go back and watch BOLD AND BEAUTIFULL again as it shuts you up.
 
 Now go fight your war so we dont have to read these stupid threads anymore.
 
 The wars make this game great and LAG will be fact even with the new hardware in place.
 
 so said what i wanted now close thread mr. GM
  
 
 
 
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:32:00 -
          [230] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug <whine>
 
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Long whine.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Long whine
 
 
 I think pretty much nobody cares about you personally anymore.
 
 You pretty much deserve what's coming to you.
 
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        |  Cardassius
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:37:00 -
          [231] 
 Evil thug, what do i see on the movie? Trails ON! Overview settings borked?
 
 Last thing i say see ya on the battlefield.
 
 ASCI Recruiting!
 
 
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:40:00 -
          [232] 
 Sure, sure, its always pleasure to think, that you are uber, and winning with skills, but not with lags. Dream on, n00b
  -----------------------------------------------
 Ash to Ash
 Dust to Dust
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        |  Kaar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:50:00 -
          [233] 
 time for a thread lock please
  
 
 ----
 <3 pep
 
 
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 13:58:00 -
          [234] 
 
  Originally by: Kaar time for a thread lock please
  
 lock
  ... we just started. 
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        |  Pastora
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:11:00 -
          [235] 
 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati 
  Originally by: Evil Thug <whine>
 
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Long whine.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Long whine
 
 
 I think pretty much nobody cares about you personally anymore.
 
 You pretty much deserve what's coming to you.
 
 
 w00t, w00t, you got pwned in that fight, and now you start to smack yourself. chill out, dude.
 _______________________________________________
 If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
 I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
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        |  Kriger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:15:00 -
          [236] 
 Uhm not sure if u quoted me by mistake.. but.. what _ARE_ you talking about?
 
 
  Originally by: Faruda Very funny.
 
 Uhm.. ok wasnt trying to be but.. tnx i guess...
 
 
  Originally by: Faruda Only Veritas members howls and whines, but it is RA behaviour?
 
 well.. ive looked twice.. nowhere in my post do i see the words "whine and howl".
 so i have to assume this is your view on RA's behavior somehow..? if u think so m8..
 i just said some RA members seemed to be lacking common sense with regard to how basic networks work.
 
 
  Originally by: Faruda Why? O, yes! Gebbels-style propaganda... Good disciple.
 
 Oh no!! he compared us to Gebbels! wait.. who da h*** is Gebbels?! And more importantly.. _WHAT_ propaganda? you lost me there m8... gotta be a bit more specific...
 
 So.. i assume your quoting me was a mistake then... cya ingame all..
 
 
 Kriger
 
 
 -[the above represent my views alone, not those of my corp or alliance unless stated otherwise]-
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        |  Kriger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:17:00 -
          [237] 
 Edited by: Kriger on 11/01/2006 14:23:21
 *deleted*
 had enough of this thread tbh...
  
 Kriger
 
 
 -[the above represent my views alone, not those of my corp or alliance unless stated otherwise]-
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        |  Crellion
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:20:00 -
          [238] 
 Indeed we at -v- are ebil haxorz. So much so that I jumped day b4 yesterday in a Taranis into a system wih ONLY 3 RA.
 
 A Deimos (who cnat catch and mwd Ranis even in his dreams) an Incursus and a Helios.
 
 They proceeded to kill my poor new Ranis WITHOUT ME FIRING A SINGLE SHOT or using my repairer AT ALL (or warping out or mwding away or or or)
 
 WHY??? Because I was admiring the view of the entry stargate in the PREVIOUS starsystem while AT THE SAME TIME I had auto piloted to the NEXT gate of the NEXT system where I was being shot to pieces.
 
 (killmail available on -v- killboard)
 
 Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:31:00 -
          [239] 
 
  Originally by: Crellion 
 Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 keep your breath.
 
 Evil thug is arrogant yes. This we all know.
 
 And please do not forget, what you write here, 5% of RA sees it.
 
 You are fighting against a forum ghost. Go get'em in game tiger, go.
 
 I wish -v- good luck.
 
 I say hi to LightDarkness
 
 And am impressed with -v-'s forum whoring warrior skills (almost as tough as ours *RAT.*)
 
 Can't wait to see you people in system without lag.
 
 We'll give you some fun again, don't worry.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Pastora
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:32:00 -
          [240] 
 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 and again... who is talking about smack?! chill out, dude
 
 turning off autopilot might help too.
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 If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
 I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:43:00 -
          [241] 
 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 
          "Thats why we are playing EVE online" (c)
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 Dust to Dust
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        |  Crellion
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:44:00 -
          [242] 
 
  Originally by: Pastora 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 and again... who is talking about smack?! chill out, dude
 
 turning off autopilot might help too.
 
 
 I had no problem with the loss dude and I agree autopiloting in 0.0 is lazy and dangerous but after all its only RA ... Anyway the reason I posted this is to show to RA that the fact that -v- do not normally whine doesnt mean that we dont have lag. And that when we can be arsed to whine we are ace at that too :) (Please note my loss is almost 3 days old. I posted it today as an example and not because I want the bloody ranis back or to claim Patpong and his mates are Haxorz)
 
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        |  Mithrindar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 14:49:00 -
          [243] 
 Edited by: Mithrindar on 11/01/2006 14:56:15
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Cardassius 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 I do every bit of this every day, and steel CTDed on every second jump, or on every jump, when you are nearby or in same constalation/region. Yesterday there wasn't even minimal lag when meet LV gang of 36 pilots, or was warping on CHIMP gang.
 
 
 ASK RAT if they had lag in e02 fighting us 30 vs 30.
 
 I had NO CTD in 2006 YET, while others of my alliance have constant CTD's.
 Could be their PC setups?
 
 I've flown from konora to e02 and seen many CTD and more lagwarp out when jumping in. I've had lagwarpouts once or twice.
 
 
 
 
 You wanted to ask RAT. about lag in e02 battle ?
 HAHHAHAHAHAH
 e02 = NOT LAGGY BATTLE !
 
 Hint. All effects turned off. All turret effects - too. No opening ppl and places. Still shooting by invisible enemys 4tw. Another hint. There is enemy fleet, sitting @ station, about 30 ships. Can you see them ? Me - not.
 
 Skill is always the same. Even with lags like those - we came on top with kills. And dont tell bull****, that this battle was 30 v 30. 25 vs 50 - more real. ****loads of t1 frigs 4tw.
 
 
 all this movie shows is that your ship is off grid from the eo2 station, your fleet warped into this point to snipe
  . 
 I'm in this movie also as I slipped of grid while being chased by a red interceptor, my screen lagged and all ships in the station grid vanished from my overview and yours apeared.
 
 your fleet warped in to snipe at the edge of a grid tile, this does not show lag.
 I also have a movie showing red drones on overview at the same point,I move towards station and the drones dissapear and -v- fleet appears on overiew.
 
 plz get your facts right or stop trying to produce false evidence of lag.
 
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        |  Faruda
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:01:00 -
          [244] 
 
  Originally by: Kriger Uhm not sure if u quoted me by mistake.. but.. what _ARE_ you talking about?
 
 Nope, I quoted you intentionally. Because you are demagogue.
 
 
  Quote: 
 
  Originally by: Faruda Only Veritas members howls and whines, but it is RA behaviour?
 
 well.. ive looked twice.. nowhere in my post do i see the words "whine and howl".
 
 Please, stop your demagogy. I told that only Veritas members whine and howl, but I do not said that you are whine and howl.
 
 
  Quote: so i have to assume this is your view on RA's behavior somehow..? if u think so m8..
 
 I do not see whinig and howling from RA. Almost do not see. At least not in this thread. And I DO NOT LIKE RA. And I have REAL REASONS do not like RA.
 
 
  Quote: i just said some RA members seemed to be lacking common sense with regard to how basic networks work.
 
 Bet you also do not know how network works.
 
 Why? O, yes! Gebbels-style propaganda... Good disciple.
 
  Quote: Oh no!! he compared us to Gebbels!
 
 Stop your demagogy. Not you, but your style. Not with Gebbels. But with Gebbels propaganda. Do you understand the difference? Btw, nothing personal against you.
 
 
  Quote: wait.. who da h*** is Gebbels?! And more importantly.. _WHAT_ propaganda? you lost me there m8... gotta be a bit more specific...
 
 Please try to read something. Eve is good game, but there are also good books.
 
 
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        |  Faruda
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:05:00 -
          [245] 
 
  Originally by: Crellion Indeed we at -v- are ebil haxorz. So much so that I jumped day b4 yesterday in a Taranis into a system wih ONLY 3 RA.
 
 A Deimos (who cnat catch and mwd Ranis even in his dreams) an Incursus and a Helios.
 
 They proceeded to kill my poor new Ranis WITHOUT ME FIRING A SINGLE SHOT or using my repairer AT ALL (or warping out or mwding away or or or)
 
 WHY??? Because I was admiring the view of the entry stargate in the PREVIOUS starsystem while AT THE SAME TIME I had auto piloted to the NEXT gate of the NEXT system where I was being shot to pieces.
 
 (killmail available on -v- killboard)
 
 Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 Please, typical Veritas@Forum behaviour, whining, squelling, howling and crying. And mumbling.
 
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        |  Phoenicia
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:07:00 -
          [246] 
 So, talking about lag-exploits eh? I do have more screenies of RA camps with drones out and none of their opponents in sight.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Yulag
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:12:00 -
          [247] 
 
  Originally by: Faruda Please, typical Veritas@Forum behaviour, whining, squelling, howling and crying. And mumbling.
 
 
 Tbh VI is one of the quietest alliances in the game, usually dont ***** at all around here and i think they have a lot of respect for that. i think they are just getting tired of this whole exploit thing and who wouldnt. I mean, theres been half a dozen threads about it now or what. If i were to hear the same about my alliance every day I would say something about it too, and if it doesnt stop, again. You are definitely giving them not enough credits. It could have been much much worse...
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:15:00 -
          [248] 
 Edited by: Terradoct on 11/01/2006 15:15:23
 
  Originally by: Phoenicia So, talking about lag-exploits eh? I do have more screenies of RA camps with drones out and none of their opponents in sight.
 
 
 Pheona you look beautifull, but don't make yourself look silly
  
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        |  Fojar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:16:00 -
          [249] 
 
  Quote: 
 Please try to read something. Eve is good game, but there are also good books.
 
 
 
 The name was goebbels numpty, not gebbels.
 
 No wonder people have no clue what your on about.
  
 Don't speak Russian.....F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 etc.
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:27:00 -
          [250] 
 
  Originally by: Mithrindar 
 plz get your facts right or stop trying to produce false evidence of lag.
 
  
 
 Okay, mister. Please, tell me, how many times my pilot clicked on "warp to" button. Please, include, that he wasn`t scrambled. If i`m not mistaken - it took around 50 seconds to ship, to execute command.
 
 I don`t know. May be we have different criteria for lag
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 Dust to Dust
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        |  Mithrindar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:52:00 -
          [251] 
 Edited by: Mithrindar on 11/01/2006 15:54:23
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug Still shooting by invisible enemys 4tw. Another hint. There is enemy fleet, sitting @ station, about 30 ships. Can you see them ? Me - not.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 with this statement you imply the fleet at the station was "invisible" and are still shooting your ship because of lag.
 
 you are infact off the station grid the fleet are not invisible just on another map grid in eo2.
 I agree there was lag in system I lost a cruiser which was docking at the station, when I apeared in station i was in a capsule.
 
 what i'm trying to say is your warp in position caused the -v- fleet to be invisible, not lag.
 
 
 
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        |  WarRages
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 15:59:00 -
          [252] 
 I don't know if V uses lame tactics to make the fights go in there favor and tbh i don't really give a ****, what ****es me off is the posts about how to reduce in game lag, i mean does no one see the point that we should not have to do these things just to play the game. I've seen V throw out drones in fleet battles and i've seen V use wasp drones, i've also seen RA use these same things, but cmon guys what the hell are they in this game for if we cannot use them for there intended purposes.
 
 There is a reason the are called combat drones they are used in combat. FFS the problem is atm in this game you cannot do **** because EVE cannot handle all of us playing. If i was the CEO of CCP the first thing i would do is ******* kick the devs and testers square in ass while handing them a pink slip.
 
 I mean come on release a patch and then deal with 100 patches to follow to fix bugs and another 100 patches to fix server problems and then 100 more patches to fix all of the other crap thats wrong in this game.
 
 Seriously this game tbh has gone straight down the toilet and in my opinion RED Moon Rising should be changed to Brown Blob in the Toilet. If we want to have a huge fleet battle of 100 ships than dammit all we should be able to do this.
 
 And at this time unfortunetly your lucky if you can have a fun fight with 20vs20. And i'm sorry but honestly we are just totally frustarted atm i mean to sit there in fleet and hear a primary being called and yet you see 0 targets in the overview or in-space while watching your ship getting OMGWTFPWN is just not fun.
 
 And then of course my all time favorite is when its petitioned the all time classic response from GM's is sorry but we have no records of this what so ever. I like to send a routine response to them when i get this of well give it a month and the log will finally load somewhere in the server.
 
 "END OF RANT"
 
 
 
 
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        |  Kalyster
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 16:00:00 -
          [253] 
 Please, do not get any wrong idea about a whole alliance just by reading few of its pilots, and above all don't write things you might regret after the lag problem resolution.
 This applies to both sides.
 
 From experience, eve players should know that whining doesn't pay and bragging has never helped any credibility.
 For the sake of what's left of your alliance reputation, stop it and just play, this is the best way to defend your point of view since guns never lie.
 
 
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        |  Mithrindar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 16:02:00 -
          [254] 
 Edited by: Mithrindar on 11/01/2006 16:04:07
 btw I have this spot bookmarked and readily show how the ships at the station vanish and apear on overview along with the lagspikes that comes with moving across a grid.
 feel free to ask a gm to come look at this nice sniping spot you had,I'm on most nights and will be happy to help you out with anything that reduces lag.
  
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        |  Toyal Wiulaz
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 16:30:00 -
          [255] 
 +1 to warages post!
 oh and for figthing, you should be able to activate your guns to do so!
  
 Both side love fleet battle, but server cant handle. Let's wait for the next other patch named "Nerfing lag 0.9b".
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 I speak QC tabarnak! QC 4tw! :)
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        |  Pepperami
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 16:35:00 -
          [256] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
  Originally by: Pepperami 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 Until then I leaving myslef right to:
  Quote: clutching at straws
 
 
 
 Cool. So long as we're in agreement that that is all you're doing.
 
 
 Meh, thelung187 alt?
 
 Do you see my bear next to me?
 Do you see me feeding it with vodka and children?
 Do you see the children I sell to live and eat?
 Do you see the roids I sell on ebay?
 Do you see the KGB agents next to you?
 
 Are you just stupid?
 
 
 What? That makes no sense, I was merely tired of the continual BS spouted from *certain parts of* RA, and that post in perticular was aimed at one person. Then you're talking about KGB and Kids? What the hell are you on about? I think you've misunderstood something here, Omeega.
 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
 LD, make this stop please.
 
 
 
 Maybe you should suggest the same to your RA friends.
 
 This thread is a waste of everyones time, it's funny since the RAs I've chatted to in-game are quite cool.
 ___________________________
 
 
 
  Originally by: TheKiller8 anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a racist.
 
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 19:42:00 -
          [257] 
 End of topic. Move along.
 
 
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  Hast
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 20:22:00 -
          [258] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 
          "Thats why we are playing EVE online" (c)
 
 
 
 Evil thug is a newb™
  
 
 
 P.S. I swear Omeega made me do it
 
 Give miners a log off timer
 
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        |  Zagum Darkfin
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 20:23:00 -
          [259] 
 Hey rages, nice post. LTN Shoot. :)
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 20:37:00 -
          [260] 
 
  Originally by: Hast 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 
          "Thats why we are playing EVE online" (c)
 
 
 
 Evil thug is a newb™
  
 
 
 
 
 P.S. I swear Omeega made me do it
 
 
 One day, i`ll persuade my corp to NAP -LV- so we`ll be able to hold our hands, and mine veldsepar, or even scordite in Jita
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 Dust to Dust
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        |  Darkrydar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 20:48:00 -
          [261] 
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
  Originally by: Cardassius 
 A few pointers when going into battle:
 - don't open eve-mail
 - have overview settings to show only enemies
 - close overview when jumping/warping into enemy fleet
 
 
 
 I do every bit of this every day, and steel CTDed on every second jump, or on every jump, when you are nearby or in same constalation/region. Yesterday there wasn't even minimal lag when meet LV gang of 36 pilots, or was warping on CHIMP gang.
 
 
 Maybe you missed the fact thee was a patch yesterday that seems tro have improved lag, alot...
 
 But, I guess you need excuses to feel beter better about your failings...
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 20:52:00 -
          [262] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Hast 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 
          "Thats why we are playing EVE online" (c)
 
 
 
 Evil thug is a newbÖ
  
 
 
 
 
 P.S. I swear Omeega made me do it
 
 
 One day, i`ll persuade my corp to NAP -LV- so we`ll be able to hold our hands, and mine veldsepar, or even scordite in Jita
  
 
 i just want to hug hast in 0.0
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Vex Seraphim
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 21:25:00 -
          [263] 
 Hi mom i'm in a forum thread!
 
 To be on topic:
 GL to RA, RAT, V, LV, 5iVE, ISD, CCP, and the GM's!
 
 kthx!
  
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        |  Hast
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.11 22:21:00 -
          [264] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Hast 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Crellion Now will you IDIOTS of RA and COMPLETE IDIOT evil thug stop making these RIDICULOUS posts please? THANK YOU ffs!
 
 
 
          "Thats why we are playing EVE online" (c)
 
 
 
 Evil thug is a newb™
  
 
 
 
 
 P.S. I swear Omeega made me do it
 
 
 One day, i`ll persuade my corp to NAP -LV- so we`ll be able to hold our hands, and mine veldsepar, or even scordite in Jita
  
 
 i just want to hug hast in 0.0
 
 
 
 usually when we hug it ends up with a baby on ebay
  
 Give miners a log off timer
 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 07:40:00 -
          [265] 
 
  Originally by: Darkrydar 
 
 Maybe you missed the fact there was a patch yesterday that seems to have improved lag, alot...
 
 But, I guess you need excuses to feel beter better about your failings...
 
 
 I do not make or search any excuses when I lose, I admint my defeat and not scrying here on forum or anywhere. But what ******* me most is that if my fleet or large gang that I was part of it is lost battle due to lag, and oposite side stating that they win it due to superrior tactics and PvP skills, and at the same time saying that they where in lag too. Whould you stay silent if your gang was lagged , and you lose half of it and your oponets come here and scream on all eve that they own you like newbs? I doubt it.
 
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        |  Kaemper
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 08:11:00 -
          [266] 
 Edited by: Kaemper on 12/01/2006 08:11:05
 
  Originally by: Terradoct 
 I do not make or search any excuses when I lose, I admint my defeat and not scrying here on forum or anywhere. But what ******* me most is that if my fleet or large gang that I was part of it is lost battle due to lag, and oposite side stating that they win it due to superrior tactics and PvP skills, and at the same time saying that they where in lag too. Whould you stay silent if your gang was lagged , and you lose half of it and your oponets come here and scream on all eve that they own you like newbs? I doubt it.
 
 
 This kinda makes me laugh.. any1 who has been following the whole V vs RA thing lately knows this whole smack'o'rama started out with RA repeatedly accusing V of some bm exploit. Find the threads/posts yourselves.. interesting how you suddenly try to put it as if your bm exploit accusations were a result of V gloating...?
 
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        |  Nitalya
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 08:16:00 -
          [267] 
 
  Originally by: WarRages RED Moon Rising should be changed to Brown Blob in the Toilet.
 
 
 i think this is the best thing to come out of this topic
  i think its time for ccp to upgrade the hamster. 
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 08:17:00 -
          [268] 
 
  Originally by: Kaemper 
 This kinda makes me laugh.. any1 who has been following the whole V vs RA thing lately knows this whole smack'o'rama started out with RA repeatedly accusing V of some bm exploit. Find the threads/posts yourselves.. interesting how you suddenly try to put it as if your bm exploit accusations were a result of V gloating...?
 
 
 This started because V stated that they wining us by skills, while 2 fights in a raw there was huge lag, and they won them only due to this, not skills or tactic.
 
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        |  LoveSlave Dave
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 08:22:00 -
          [269] 
 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=272639
 Daddy does it to me cos he loves me
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        |  Rumata
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 08:49:00 -
          [270] 
 hmm last 2 days rat killed to -V- 18 Battleships, support i have not time to count ...
 nice start
  damn exams i cant take part in this fest
  
 
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        |  Kaemper
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 09:04:00 -
          [271] 
 Edited by: Kaemper on 12/01/2006 09:15:22
 
  Originally by: Terradoct This started because V stated that they wining us by skills ....
 
 
 I disagree.
 
 Its true some V members came with statements regarding skills, but these comments were made in a context of trying to explain why V had come out the victors in a laggy battle (for both parties afaik), in response to repeated RA accusations of V creating the lag by use of the (yet to be proven) "bm exploit". As I understood it, the point some RA members were trying to make was that V won because they/V werent lagged out due to the mentioned "exploit". V responded by saying that they too were lagged out, and perhaps they/V won due to a better tactic, skill, etc. I wont speculate as to wether or not V used better tactics.. only point im trying to make here is the chronology. As i see it, V didnt start this smacking n whining. They joined in after a while but they didnt start it.
 
 
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 09:39:00 -
          [272] 
 Edited by: Darcuese on 12/01/2006 09:39:25
 Hmm....RA are bit anoyed by some things.
 
 My heart cant stand the emotions ....urgghh...*taking a pill*...ughh...better
  . 
 This thread already gone to far....lots of copypaste posts lately...start a new one
  [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 09:47:00 -
          [273] 
 
  Originally by: Rumata hmm last 2 days rat killed to -V- 18 Battleships, support i have not time to count ...
 nice start
  damn exams i cant take part in this fest
  
 
 
 can I make a post on the fall of -v-? please rumi please <3
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 09:49:00 -
          [274] 
 heh i don`t know who lost and who won but atm i saw only 1 when we start war vs veritas in epire , Veritas aliance left 3 korps :) war is active i think 2 days .
 but Veritas and any anathere i can say only 1 - you can`t won mebers who is from old russteam (and new members who want be like old russteam) , you can only put **** here on forum .
 and if this LAGS is ccp problem i realy want to see fights after they fix it . atm you kill only noobs and crazy pilots like RaSatan who fly in dregnaut like in frig .
 and from Veritas i can say good only about 1 member who kill me 3 times in inter duels :)
 
 
 
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 09:53:00 -
          [275] 
 
  Originally by: MACTEP 
 1. Won ? realy? lags / bookmarks warriors.....stop using game bugs and fight honestly(i am talking about combats 20+ ships)
 
 
 
 THIS one is especially for YOU:
 
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 Phased Plasma S, Qty: 23
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 and these are only the destroyed ones. however, i think the can never opened. i will send the full killmail to those who want it. contact me ingame for it please. so there is no point in blaming -V- without a proof for something your pilots do and are proven to do.
 
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 (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination.
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        |  Terradoct
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:00:00 -
          [276] 
 Xaarist
 Could you please send me via eve-mail full kill mail of that pilot (not edited)
 
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:03:00 -
          [277] 
 sent
 
 regards, Xaarist
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        |  Chippie MS
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:03:00 -
          [278] 
 Edited by: Chippie MS on 12/01/2006 10:03:56
 No he cant as he hasnt got the full mail but i have a copy and paste on our forums that I can send to you if you want.
 
 Or if you want i can post it on the ra forums
 
 
 **EDIT*** bah ok he can lol
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:06:00 -
          [279] 
 it seems the full mail is on our forums, at least it looks like a complete mail to me...
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        |  Chippie MS
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:06:00 -
          [280] 
 Oh and I was there and the system was laggy but god knows if this was due to this instance or down to amount of players etc etc etc Im just hoping that people are not trying to see if this is an actual exploit and use it to there advantage..... personally i cant see how it would only lag a certain amount of people and not just the whole sector and therefore seems totally pointless to me.
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        |  Chippie MS
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:11:00 -
          [281] 
 Yes it is I took it from the 42 killmail section we have on there (its not public just a forum section) If someone gives me the RA forum address i can post it for you if you want or i could ut it in the public section of zavion.dk/detorid but i dont want to start a flame war/moaning/arguement over this its a RA internal issue if people are doing this.
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 10:11:00 -
          [282] 
 Edited by: Darcuese on 12/01/2006 10:13:36
 
  Originally by: Corak 
 but Veritas and any anathere i can say only 1 - you can`t won mebers who is from old russteam (and new members who want be like old russteam) , you can only put **** here on forum
 
 
 
   . Corak....old russteam/spirit is history...no only in EVE
  
 "Shadow leaches" 4tl
 
 
 [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Rumata
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 11:22:00 -
          [283] 
 
  Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 12/01/2006 10:13:36
 
  Originally by: Corak 
 but Veritas and any anathere i can say only 1 - you can`t won mebers who is from old russteam (and new members who want be like old russteam) , you can only put **** here on forum
 
 
 
   . Corak....old russteam/spirit is history...no only in EVE
  
 "Shadow leaches" 4tl
 
 
 
 
 
 hello my name is history
  
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        |  Logan Williams
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 11:56:00 -
          [284] 
 Did someone say "History"? I'm hoping that this turns out similar to the last time the Germans decided to invade the Russians during Winter.
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 11:58:00 -
          [285] 
 
  Originally by: Logan Williams Did someone say "History"? I'm hoping that this turns out similar to the last time the Germans decided to invade the Russians during Winter.
 
 
 History and memories...best food for youngsters
  ...raise their spirit with stories then let them fight and taste the final expiriance...death  [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
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        |  Cilppiz
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 12:09:00 -
          [286] 
 
  Originally by: Logan Williams Did someone say "History"? I'm hoping that this turns out similar to the last time the Germans decided to invade the Russians during Winter.
 
 
 And in the end RA will collapse like Soviet Union, and territories it had will be restored to those they belong to?
  
 Sounds like win-win situation for us
  
 
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        |  Iberi
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 12:09:00 -
          [287] 
 Btw, for my acknowldge.
 Does RA allows/supports pirating? Because looks that answer is positive, and members of Red Alliance could pirate anywhere anytime.
 
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        |  Ivoryman
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 12:35:00 -
          [288] 
 The three -V- corporations mentioned as "surrendering" are Silent Service Operations, Lost In Space, and Spankage. These three corporation started into a merger before the Christmas holidays. The new corporation is Art of War. Said three corporations did not "Surrender", they were released from -V- alliance as they were no longer active corporations.
 Consider this an "official" statement, as I was CEO of Silent Service Operations and am current CEO of Art of War.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Ivoryman - A-WAR
 CEO- Art of War
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 14:12:00 -
          [289] 
 
  Originally by: WarRages I don't know if V uses lame tactics to make the fights go in there favor and tbh i don't really give a ****, what ****es me off is the posts about how to reduce in game lag, i mean does no one see the point that we should not have to do these things just to play the game. I've seen V throw out drones in fleet battles and i've seen V use wasp drones, i've also seen RA use these same things, but cmon guys what the hell are they in this game for if we cannot use them for there intended purposes.
 
 There is a reason the are called combat drones they are used in combat. FFS the problem is atm in this game you cannot do **** because EVE cannot handle all of us playing. If i was the CEO of CCP the first thing i would do is ******* kick the devs and testers square in ass while handing them a pink slip.
 
 I mean come on release a patch and then deal with 100 patches to follow to fix bugs and another 100 patches to fix server problems and then 100 more patches to fix all of the other crap thats wrong in this game.
 
 Seriously this game tbh has gone straight down the toilet and in my opinion RED Moon Rising should be changed to Brown Blob in the Toilet. If we want to have a huge fleet battle of 100 ships than dammit all we should be able to do this.
 
 And at this time unfortunetly your lucky if you can have a fun fight with 20vs20. And i'm sorry but honestly we are just totally frustarted atm i mean to sit there in fleet and hear a primary being called and yet you see 0 targets in the overview or in-space while watching your ship getting OMGWTFPWN is just not fun.
 
 And then of course my all time favorite is when its petitioned the all time classic response from GM's is sorry but we have no records of this what so ever. I like to send a routine response to them when i get this of well give it a month and the log will finally load somewhere in the server.
 
 "END OF RANT"
 
 
 
 
 
 respectfully post and agreed.
 
 /me winks to warrages
  
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 14:14:00 -
          [290] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 12/01/2006 09:49:18
 
  Originally by: Rumata hmm last 2 days rat killed to -V- 18 Battleships, support i have not time to count ...
 nice start
  damn exams i cant take part in this fest
  
 
 
 can I make a post on the fall of -v-? please rumi please <3
 
 wait we WTFPWNEDBBQED em
 
 ok now -v- mode off.
 
 -WE LOVE GreatWildlands, we are here to stay-
 
 Good luck.
 
 
 
 
 Sry to destroy your dreams my old enemy friend. But a few kill cant win a war.
  
 You love GW? We also. So we will see you there if we finished our OP¦s. I hope we will get nice fights.
 
 Regards
 /LD
  
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 14:22:00 -
          [291] 
 so does this mean GW is officially contested between RA(T) and V now?
  
 hey wait -
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 14:37:00 -
          [292] 
 
  Originally by: Xaarist so does this mean GW is officially contested between RA(T) and V now?
  
 hey wait -
    
 
 Better stay where you are now. @ safe spot.
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        |  HeadHunta II
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:09:00 -
          [293] 
 I really wonder why this thread hasnt been locked yet. There are so much pointless flames in here that i cant and wont look at this thread anymore. Our Statement was clear, and all the smack and flames here wont stop us anyway.
 
 And yes, RAT. (who are not RA
  ) are atm operating in E02 and are ganking some of us, who are doing their daily buisness in the surrounding systems. But if RA thinks, sending RAT. into GW will stop us from attacking them in their space, and force us to move back into E02 area for that time wont work i can asure you  . GL RAT. ganking our carebears, if its that what you are able to. Lets see if RAT. are still there if most of us will come back one time. Doubt it.
 
 V did a good job for now in RA space and i want to thx every V member making that possible. And again: We just began. Thx.
 
 "I also use this post to order ALL V-Members again to NOT reply to any insult, smack, provocations thrown at us in this thread here. Not worth it. EVERY V-MEMBER posting again in this thread HAVE TO PAY 10M TO THE ALLIANCE. THX."
 
 
 
 
 "-V- Vice President"
 "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs"
 "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
 
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        |  Fojar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:10:00 -
          [294] 
 Edited by: Fojar on 12/01/2006 15:11:57
 Edited by: Fojar on 12/01/2006 15:11:28
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Xaarist so does this mean GW is officially contested between RA(T) and V now?
  
 hey wait -
    
 
 Better stay where you are now. @ safe spot.
 
 
 Who's Safespotting?
  
 Don't speak Russian.....F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 etc.
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        |  Xaarist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:21:00 -
          [295] 
 if i stay here in my office (really a safe place to be) i can not play eve and will have to continue forumwhoring - it's your choice
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        |  Jenny Spitfire
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:28:00 -
          [296] 
 
  Originally by: Fojar Edited by: Fojar on 12/01/2006 15:11:57
 Edited by: Fojar on 12/01/2006 15:11:28
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Xaarist so does this mean GW is officially contested between RA(T) and V now?
  
 hey wait -
    
 
 Better stay where you are now. @ safe spot.
 
 
 Who's logging?
  
 
 Edited for correctness.
 
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:38:00 -
          [297] 
 
  Originally by: Xaarist if i stay here in my office (really a safe place to be) i can not play eve and will have to continue forumwhoring - it's your choice
  
 
 Yeah. I forum *****d yesterday 13 v battleships. Without any battleship losses.
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        |  Hast
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:39:00 -
          [298] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Xaarist if i stay here in my office (really a safe place to be) i can not play eve and will have to continue forumwhoring - it's your choice
  
 
 Yeah. I forum *****d yesterday 13 v battleships. Without any battleship losses.
 
 
 newb
 
 Give miners a log off timer
 
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 15:48:00 -
          [299] 
 HH,
 
 RA doesn't send RAT.
 
 We do as we please.
 
 Hed-gp is dead.
 
 We want easy kills and carebears kills because we can't kill dreads or freighters or even equal number fleets.
 
 We had two choices.
 
 Either LV (hast is their only carebear we could chain it but he only flies noob ships)
 
 Either -v- who said they were gonna kill RA because they had downed 2 RA dreads (4B out of someone who has 50B+ in his own wallet).
 
 
 So I told Evil Thug, let's try to kill some real pvpers!!!
 
 But now you say we kill your carebears.
 
 Damn it.
 
 I prefered killing BOS in syndicate ( \o/ noobjuice!!! )
 
 But we are here and we'll continue, until we're satisfied.
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 16:17:00 -
          [300] 
 Veritas what you want to prove in this topic ?
  oh and all russteam old is in RAT . only 5-10 members not to join atm to RAT :) but i think its hapend soon .
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  cflux
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 16:26:00 -
          [301] 
 I really think this thread should be closed. Rage and Terror fights very well. VI fights very well. This is pointless and fighting has been much better than this thread makes it to be.
 
 Just remember that CHIMP's can throw bananas harder than any of you.
 Chimaera Pact - Monkey say, Monkey do.
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 16:28:00 -
          [302] 
 Why is RAT in GW when the V fighters are in RA space. If you want a fight go there and find one. If you want an easier fight then stay away from the main V forces.
 
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        |  Rumata
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 17:15:00 -
          [303] 
 
  Originally by: Raid Why is RAT in GW when the V fighters are in RA space. If you want a fight go there and find one. If you want an easier fight then stay away from the main V forces.
 
 
 Ok rgr
 main V forces is forum eve-online.com
 BUagagaga
 
    
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:10:00 -
          [304] 
 
  Originally by: Rumata 
  Originally by: Raid Why is RAT in GW when the V fighters are in RA space. If you want a fight go there and find one. If you want an easier fight then stay away from the main V forces.
 
 
 Ok rgr
 main V forces is forum eve-online.com
 BUagagaga
 
    
 
 Uhh maybe you should read my post again. What I said was V is in RA space. Now if you think that means V are on the forums then RA space must = the forums.
 
 Theres an edit button i hope you use it.
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:19:00 -
          [305] 
 heh Veritas take 1 station .
 Chimp take two station
 = chimp won
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        |  MalaMo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:31:00 -
          [306] 
 
  Originally by: Raid Why is RAT in GW when the V fighters are in RA space. If you want a fight go there and find one. If you want an easier fight then stay away from the main V forces.
 
 
 I hope you dont have any connection with military wing in your aliance.
 What do you think will criple more -V- killing fighters or killing industry wich supports fighters ?
 With RAT in GW -V- doest have any more "safe space" where can resuply in peace.
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:36:00 -
          [307] 
 
  Originally by: Raid 
 Uhh maybe you should read my post again. What I said was V is in RA space. Now if you think that means V are on the forums then RA space must = the forums.
 
 Theres an edit button i hope you use it.
 
 
 We were bored. There were almost no targets in HED pipe. At this time, few guys, from Veritas - started to claim, that they are uber. We decided to prove, that they are wrong.
 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 Enough said.
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:43:00 -
          [308] 
 
  Originally by: MalaMo 
  Originally by: Raid Why is RAT in GW when the V fighters are in RA space. If you want a fight go there and find one. If you want an easier fight then stay away from the main V forces.
 
 
 I hope you dont have any connection with military wing in your aliance.
 What do you think will criple more -V- killing fighters or killing industry wich supports fighters ?
 With RAT in GW -V- doest have any more "safe space" where can resuply in peace.
 
 
 If you know your enemy (which it doesnt seem like you do) surely you realize that killing industrials will not stop them from attacking RA. Maybe if there was conquerable station and you could capture their space then i would see the point in going after their home. Simply killing industrial ships will not cripple a wealthy alliance. With the way the game is setup they can capture all the RA stations and hold them for 6 months before running out of resources.
 
 I wont tell you how to push V back, but what i will tell you is you will never get it done by avoiding conflicts.
 
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        |  Evil Thug
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:48:00 -
          [309] 
 
  Originally by: Raid If you know your enemy (which it doesnt seem like you do) surely you realize that killing industrials will not stop them from attacking RA. Maybe if there was conquerable station and you could capture their space then i would see the point in going after their home. Simply killing industrial ships will not cripple a wealthy alliance. With the way the game is setup they can capture all the RA stations and hold them for 6 months before running out of resources.
 
 I wont tell you how to push V back, but what i will tell you is you will never get it done by avoiding conflicts.
 
 
 Sir, are you blind ?
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 18:52:00 -
          [310] 
 Edited by: Raid on 12/01/2006 18:52:39
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Raid 
 Uhh maybe you should read my post again. What I said was V is in RA space. Now if you think that means V are on the forums then RA space must = the forums.
 
 Theres an edit button i hope you use it.
 
 
 We were bored. There were almost no targets in HED pipe. At this time, few guys, from Veritas - started to claim, that they are uber. We decided to prove, that they are wrong.
 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 Enough said.
 
 
 Fair enough, I was looking for a reason why you are staying away from the V fleet and you answered my question.
 
 edit: my previous post was made while you were writing your reply thats why i didn't see it.
 
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        |  stuart waterman
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 19:35:00 -
          [311] 
 
  Originally by: Corak heh Veritas take 1 station .
 Chimp take two station
 = chimp won
  
 
 You really think Veritas want the stations ?.
 If I know V are all they would have just taken the station to bring your guys out to fight :).
 
 I think I remember V saying thier original statement, "We don't want your space, we just want to have fun".
 
 P.S.
 Jenni...10 mil fee payable to headhunter for replying after the cut off point :).
 
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        |  Komolov
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 20:47:00 -
          [312] 
 Today i accidentally jumped onto CHIMPs main fleet (running many alts sux :) ). After 5 minutes of watching of me peacefully flying around that fleet without any damage and without half of modules I decided you already had enough fun with my frozen body and restarted client just to see warm welcome from clone facility staff :)
 
 Lags SUX.
 
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 Dmitry V. Komolov
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        |  maxsuicide1
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.12 20:58:00 -
          [313] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
  Originally by: Raid 
 Uhh maybe you should read my post again. What I said was V is in RA space. Now if you think that means V are on the forums then RA space must = the forums.
 
 Theres an edit button i hope you use it.
 
 
 We were bored. There were almost no targets in HED pipe. At this time, few guys, from Veritas - started to claim, that they are uber. We decided to prove, that they are wrong.
 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 Enough said.
 
 
 damn u make me so hard when u talk cool.
  
 ♥ for the RAT guys
  
 my friend in V tells me u guys are having some great fights, wish i was there
  
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 00:07:00 -
          [314] 
 lol Veritas take station for what ?
  we jamp same h ago in n-rael with 3 BS and 1 hac on gate be 8 inters 3 hacs 1 cruiser 2 BS = all this mix gang veritas ans shadow run without any shoot !
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        |  Light Darkness
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 02:48:00 -
          [315] 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
 
 Sir, are you blind ?
 
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 
 
 
 Your Dread is already in Doril i heard. So V is open and say welcome for the fight Mr. Evil Thug.
 
 Regards
 /LD
 
 *-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
 
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 05:19:00 -
          [316] 
 Not one Dread... 4 RAT dreads were in doril. 3 made it out :P
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        |  Mindlles
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 10:34:00 -
          [317] 
 Edited by: Mindlles on 13/01/2006 10:40:41
 
  Originally by: Evil Thug 
 
 We were bored. There were almost no targets in HED pipe. At this time, few guys, from Veritas - started to claim, that they are uber. We decided to prove, that they are wrong.
 
 Atm we are unable to participate in fleet battles, due to lags. We are waiting for 64bit server upgrade. Then - we`ll engage V primary force, and destroy it, like we did many times.
 
 Enough said.
 
 
 U are lying, we scared u away :P
 
 Edit : toke away the nice part =)
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        |  Martyr 01
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 13:24:00 -
          [318] 
 Edited by: Martyr 01 on 13/01/2006 13:25:19
 After having Corak's clearly malicious lie that Chimp took 2 stations relayed to me, I have been authorised to release footage from our top-secret archives detailing all our recent operations by way of rebuttal.
 
 Shame on you man.
 
 Linkage
 
 In case you're wondering, aye it really is Klezz
  
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        |  Klezz
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 14:11:00 -
          [319] 
 
  Originally by: Martyr 01 
 
 In case you're wondering, aye it really is Klezz
  
 
 
 Good to have you back Martyr 01 , i see ALOT of work comming your way
   
 
 
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        |  Martyr 01
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 16:14:00 -
          [320] 
 Martyr 01 perfectly backfires and strikes himself wrecking for omgwtfpaperwork
  
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        |  Finix Jaeger
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 17:44:00 -
          [321] 
 Edited by: Finix Jaeger on 13/01/2006 17:45:04
 And thats me in the background throwing ***** at Rover Vitesse...
 
 Good times to be had
  
 
 *edit* Ahh, come on. They where alowed to say ***** in Madagascar, I even remember ppl laughing at that bit...
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 Rover Vitesse > Finix, i am not going to go all the way tonight
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        |  Rover Vitesse
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 18:05:00 -
          [322] 
 Okay CHIMPS, get out of this thread and get back to those Veldspar rocks. I'm back from work in 2 hours and I want to get the big Shuttle manufacturing job started.
 
 Shame on you, hijacking someone elses thread. Why don't you do what everyone else does and get a State War Academy alt to start a thread about you, or just post your own "I Love Me" threads like Burn Eden?
  Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda
 Rovers Chronicles
 
 
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        |  Fedaykin Naib
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 19:29:00 -
          [323] 
 GO CORAK!!!!! \\o \o/ o//
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 "Long Live the Fighters!"
 
 "The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
 
 
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        |  Liet Traep
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.13 19:37:00 -
          [324] 
 Head Hunta your own .5 allies have done the same divide and conquer trick. Look at how they helped you vs Foundation or what happened with the formation of ASCN. RA trying to set their enemies against each other is an old trick often used in Eve.
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 09:24:00 -
          [325] 
 lol jast RAT and RED bay dreds in doril :)
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 09:28:00 -
          [326] 
 Fedaykin go help me im bored
  oh and Veritas i want say sorry to you from me about LAGs . i be in fight vs your gang we be ~25-30 in lokal and got 0 LAGs . its i think is ccp . they realy take money from peoples i think not for they work but jast for life :)
 on server be 13-14 k members and all be good 0 lags but when is 15k + ========= LAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSS.
 Sorry Veritas about my points same days ago , about your lags and BM`s
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        |  Fedaykin Naib
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 10:14:00 -
          [327] 
 
  Originally by: Corak Fedaykin go help me im bored
  oh and Veritas i want say sorry to you from me about LAGs . i be in fight vs your gang we be ~25-30 in lokal and got 0 LAGs . its i think is ccp . they realy take money from peoples i think not for they work but jast for life :)
 on server be 13-14 k members and all be good 0 lags but when is 15k + ========= LAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSS.
 Sorry Veritas about my points same days ago , about your lags and BM`s
  
 
 I would love to bro, but ive caughten myself up into something new. But, dont worry the ole times will soon come again
  
 
 "Long Live the Fighters!"
 
 "The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
 
 
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        |  Fedaykin Naib
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 10:14:00 -
          [328] 
 
  Originally by: Corak Fedaykin go help me im bored
  oh and Veritas i want say sorry to you from me about LAGs . i be in fight vs your gang we be ~25-30 in lokal and got 0 LAGs . its i think is ccp . they realy take money from peoples i think not for they work but jast for life :)
 on server be 13-14 k members and all be good 0 lags but when is 15k + ========= LAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSS.
 Sorry Veritas about my points same days ago , about your lags and BM`s
  
 
 I would love to bro, but ive caughten myself up into something new. But, dont worry the ole times will soon come again
  
 
 "Long Live the Fighters!"
 
 "The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
 
 
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 11:14:00 -
          [329] 
 Martyr 01
 Forty Two
 Chimaera Pact ---------------- what i lie ?????????????
 i say chimp take 2 stations veritas take 1 station = chimera won :)
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 11:14:00 -
          [330] 
 Martyr 01
 Forty Two
 Chimaera Pact ---------------- what i lie ?????????????
 i say chimp take 2 stations veritas take 1 station = chimera won :)
 UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Martyr 01
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.14 14:50:00 -
          [331] 
 Lies, filthy malicious lies!
 
 
 
 Martyr 01 >> Minister Of Disinformation
 
 
  
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        |  king borg
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.15 01:21:00 -
          [332] 
 im back
   lets have some fun
  
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        |  Corak
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.15 19:19:00 -
          [333] 
 
  UA Industry :: We produce frags
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        |  Fojar
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.16 12:54:00 -
          [334] 
 
  Originally by: Martyr 01 Lies, filthy malicious lies!
 
 
 
 Martyr 01 >> Minister Of Disinformation
 
 
  
 
 Stop taunting the poor ruskies
  
 Don't speak Russian.....F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 etc.
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        |  Omeega
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.16 13:45:00 -
          [335] 
 
  Originally by: Fojar 
  Originally by: Martyr 01 Lies, filthy malicious lies!
 
 
 
 Martyr 01 >> Minister Of Disinformation
 
 
  
 
 Stop taunting the poor ruskies
  
 
 That's what's cool with the RA, no propaganda can be used against'em ;)
 
 Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
 
 
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        |  Hast
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.16 13:50:00 -
          [336] 
 
  Originally by: Omeega 
  Originally by: Fojar 
  Originally by: Martyr 01 Lies, filthy malicious lies!
 
 
 
 Martyr 01 >> Minister Of Disinformation
 
 
  
 
 Stop taunting the poor ruskies
  
 
 That's what's cool with the RA, no propaganda can be used against'em ;)
 
 
 
 like you would understand it anyways
  
 my place or your place? ♥
 
 Give miners a log off timer
 
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        |  DAUNGA
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.01.16 18:39:00 -
          [337] 
 Dame Sally: '"Yes, I will marry you" cried Geraldine. "I will! I will!". The End. How many pages?
 
 Miss Grace: Um, twelve.
 
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        |  Brother Benthor
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 10:14:00 -
          [338] 
 Edited by: Brother Benthor on 13/02/2006 10:14:53
 ... cleared
 
 
 Sig violated as requested - Cortes
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        |  Admiral IceBlock
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 10:25:00 -
          [339] 
 yes we all know how effective the red propoganda machine is...
 
 
 "We brake for nobody"
 
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        |  DjDangle
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 10:55:00 -
          [340] 
 Damn is this still going...
 
 
 
 
 
 "On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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        |  Aeon Yakati
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 11:32:00 -
          [341] 
 O RLY?
  
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        |  Jenny Spitfire
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 11:58:00 -
          [342] 
 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati O RLY?
  
 
 YA RLY!
  ----------------
 
 RecruitMe@NOINT!
 RAWRRRRRRR!!1 - Imaran
  Wrangler, stealing Eris pink since a few days ago.
 We always knew you had a thing for pink - Vanamonde
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        |  Chowdown
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 12:12:00 -
          [343] 
 
  Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati O RLY?
  
 
 YA RLY!
  
 
 No Wai
 
 here comes the Chuck Norris joke ..........
 
 
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        |  Brother Benthor
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 12:50:00 -
          [344] 
 
  Originally by: Chowdown 
  Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 
  Originally by: Aeon Yakati O RLY?
  
 
 YA RLY!
  
 
 No Wai
 
 here comes the Chuck Norris joke ..........
 
 
 Wai duuddee !!
 
 
 Sig violated as requested - Cortes
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        |  Teblin
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.02.13 15:25:00 -
          [345] 
 This thread ran its course a month ago. Let dead threads rest, please
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