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Spokie
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Posted - 2006.01.05 01:14:00 -
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How many players would quit Eve if they where forced to leave their NPC corp after 30 days?
The way I see it, macroers and isk farmers are the biggest concern in Eve at the moment. At least 9 or 10 new threads a day pop up with this solution or that solution on how to deal with them.
But the problem is a very simple one to fix. Eve's game mechanics protect macroers. Forcing players to leave the sanctury of an NPC corp after their initial 30-day trial is over would remove that protection and make it open-season on all macroers. There would be no more need to waste time sending in petitions, and GM's would be free from being bogged-down investigating them. And CCP wouldn't have to lose any income from banning macroers account. Heck, they could even legalise it!
Now some will say that innocent newer players will be griefed as they'll be forced to form their own corps after 30 days or join exisiting player-run corps... but this already happens anyway - just take a look through the crime and punishment forum from time to time to see someone complaining his corp of noobs are being wardecced by hardcore PvP'ers.
So the question is this.... what is the lesser of two evils?
1. Macorers are forced into creating corporations - thus making them vulnerable to war declarations. The playerbase now has the ability to police them.
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2. Legitimate new players are thrown in at the deep end after 30 days by having to create their own corp or joining an existing corp (and thus possibly subject to similar war decs by griefer corps). I suspect the majority of new players do join player corps or make their own corp within 30 days of starting Eve anyway tbh!
Please discuss, and try to keep it civil 
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Spokie
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Posted - 2006.01.05 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Spokie on 05/01/2006 01:30:22
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-Someone has to be the 'voice of experience' in the NPC corp to help out the newbs.
There are many other channels in-game where new players can seek help.
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-Not everyone wants to have to deal with guild/corp politics.
They wouldn't have to if they made their own corp just for themselves.
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-It often takes a long time to find a corp that really 'fits' you well.
See above.
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-NPC corps are a way for players to flee wars they do not wish to get involved in.
Good point. But using NPC corps like that is also abused by players that wish to "dodge" a certain war. It's an exploit too IIRC.
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-Solo is a valid playstyle, according to CCP. NPC corps are really the only way to do that.
No. You can play solo in your own 1-man corp.
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Spokie
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Posted - 2006.01.05 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Spokie on 05/01/2006 01:40:09
Originally by: Ukucia
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
i just dont see companies spending revenue to stop revenue and its sad...the players who just enjoy, love and really are here to game are the true and most harmed by this not the game makers or farmers...
IMO, there is no 'evil money-grubbing plot' to keep bots around.
The problem is there is no automated solution to stopping bots. Every significant MMOG has a bot problem. None of them have come up with an automated solution for it, because no automated solution exists.
Bots wouldn't be an issue anymore in Eve if a macroers NPC-corp protection was removed.
Bots could even be legalised! But expect someone to come along and war dec your corp for using them! Thats the beauty of Eve. 
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Spokie
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Posted - 2006.01.05 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ukucia
Originally by: Spokie
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-Solo is a valid playstyle, according to CCP. NPC corps are really the only way to do that.
No. You can play solo in your own 1-man corp.
Which is a problem when someone decides to grief your solo-corp by wardecing you.
The anti-war protection of NPC corps is a 'good thing', IMO, and should be available to players who don't want to play that (boring) way.
Well thats true too.
So the question is, do we protect the few players who may be subject to that, or do we want to curb (and possibly eliminate completely) the farmers and macroers that are infesting the game. 
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