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Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:46:00 -
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Well, my alliance just moved to a new region and we have a pretty awesome station with a clone bay. The only catch is all of the office space is at capacity, with most of these being corps that have been inactive for years.
Is there anyway to evict these corps? I have yet to find an active member in any of them, let alone a director or CEO. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3585
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:49:00 -
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If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:50:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out?
Because people who actually play the game need the space. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16282
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:50:00 -
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They do close after a certain period of activity. That period is one month after the last bill was paid and/or the money ran out. If the station is full, those bills will ramp up pretty quickly and empty the wallet faster.
Evicting people who are still paying the bills doesn't make much sense.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Baggo Hammers
49
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:They do close after a certain period of activity. That period is one month after the last bill was paid and/or the money ran out. If the station is full, those bills will ramp up pretty quickly and empty the wallet faster. Evicting people who are still paying the bills doesn't make much sense. 
It does if you are a spoiled twit. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:They do close after a certain period of activity. That period is one month after the last bill was paid and/or the money ran out. If the station is full, those bills will ramp up pretty quickly and empty the wallet faster. Evicting people who are still paying the bills doesn't make much sense. 
I'm all for keeping offices for people who actively submit PLEX to keep their accounts open in the corp's leadership. But if they haven't even renewed their registeration to be a pilot in the last 5 years. They're not coming back. CCP needs to purge this nonsense. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16282
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:58:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:I'm all for keeping offices for people who actively submit PLEX to keep their accounts open in the corp's leadership. But if they haven't even renewed their registeration to be a pilot in the last 5 years. They're not coming back. CCP needs to purge this nonsense. If they stopped playing 5 years ago, they would have lost the office 5 years ago since auto-payment of bills hadn't been introduced yet. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:I'm all for keeping offices for people who actively submit PLEX to keep their accounts open in the corp's leadership. But if they haven't even renewed their registeration to be a pilot in the last 5 years. They're not coming back. CCP needs to purge this nonsense. If they stopped playing 5 years ago, they would have lost the office 5 years ago since auto-payment of bills hadn't been introduced yet.
I realize it's tricky to just remove people's assets or do things to their inactive character's stuff in space. But after some X amount of time, penalties should be imposed for inactive accounts. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3585
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:03:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Tippia wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:I'm all for keeping offices for people who actively submit PLEX to keep their accounts open in the corp's leadership. But if they haven't even renewed their registeration to be a pilot in the last 5 years. They're not coming back. CCP needs to purge this nonsense. If they stopped playing 5 years ago, they would have lost the office 5 years ago since auto-payment of bills hadn't been introduced yet. I realize it's tricky to just remove people's assets or do things to their inactive character's stuff in space. But after some X amount of time, penalties should be imposed for inactive accounts.
There already is a penalty, they can't play. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:07:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Tippia wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:I'm all for keeping offices for people who actively submit PLEX to keep their accounts open in the corp's leadership. But if they haven't even renewed their registeration to be a pilot in the last 5 years. They're not coming back. CCP needs to purge this nonsense. If they stopped playing 5 years ago, they would have lost the office 5 years ago since auto-payment of bills hadn't been introduced yet. I realize it's tricky to just remove people's assets or do things to their inactive character's stuff in space. But after some X amount of time, penalties should be imposed for inactive accounts. There already is a penalty, they can't play.
So if they can't play, why would they care what happens to their offices? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16282
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:07:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:I realize it's tricky to just remove people's assets or do things to their inactive character's stuff in space. But after some X amount of time, penalties should be imposed for inactive accounts. There are. Their assets are impounded and they have to pay to get them back. Until they stop paying their bills, there's no reason to complicate matters and kick them out just because you don't want to keep looking for a different station that offers the same services.
Btw, why didn't you do that before the move? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

GreenSeed
673
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:08:00 -
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oh boy... i know of a story that has the same plot.
this fable on eve online will end in explosions, instead of... ahem ... weird.
(great comic btw, worth a read.) |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:I realize it's tricky to just remove people's assets or do things to their inactive character's stuff in space. But after some X amount of time, penalties should be imposed for inactive accounts. There are. Their assets are impounded and they have to pay to get them back. Until they stop paying their bills, there's no reason to complicate matters and kick them out just because you don't want to keep looking for a different station that offers the same services. Btw, why didn't you do that before the move?
We're using the other station, but it still gave me the idea that wasted space should be cleaned up.
Anyway, after debating this out this idea seems dumb. So my next course of action is to actually solve this via the sandbox aka pleading with a CEO I find that's active and offer him isk to move or threaten boat violence etc. |

Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate Brigands of New Eden
85
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:20:00 -
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The rent in these offices, by the way, is 29k isk.... haha I'll be waiting a loooooooong time for someone to default :) |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16282
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:22:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:The rent in these offices, by the way, is 29k isk.... haha I'll be waiting a loooooooong time for someone to default :) If they're full, it'll go up quick enough. It's that low, you can rest assured that it's not actually a particularly popular station and a slot or five will open up in short order. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3151
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Posted - 2013.09.01 18:35:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:this fable on eve online will end in explosions, instead of... ahem ... weird. .... wat? Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Brethren.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.01 19:38:00 -
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A lot of people have offices everywhere just so they can drop cyno alts anywhere they need to.
for a cyno only pilot you can pod kill yourself to any of your offices with zero effect on your skillpoints. |

Zappity
Kurved Space
336
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Posted - 2013.09.01 20:34:00 -
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OP, you are not reading the answers. Bills are not paid automatically so there are active players paying for those offices. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |

Diablo Ex
Lilith's Shadow
200
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Posted - 2013.09.01 20:43:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:oh boy... i know of a story that has the same plot. this fable on eve online will end in explosions, instead of... ahem ... weird. (great comic btw, worth a read.)
O.O
Oh wow.... Go Goldie! Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
79
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:32:00 -
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hm, i have noticed this a lot lately, all over, when looking for offices, some systems i work in, there is no chance of ever getting an office, and i still see no people in local where i see offices for rent, most of them, hundreds of millions of isk, even semi empty systems, 100m+ per month for an office yes, it's high demand and such, but still,
other things aside, i miss the time years ago, when i could just GET an office, no availability issues, mabey it's time to increase the number of offices per station, there are easily at least five times more corps then there were back when this system was designed, mabey the system should be updated? Return varied color to Gallente ships! not everything looks good in DARK GREEN! |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1288
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:57:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Well, my alliance just moved to a new region and we have a pretty awesome station with a clone bay. The only catch is all of the office space is at capacity, with most of these being corps that have been inactive for years.
Is there anyway to evict these corps? I have yet to find an active member in any of them, let alone a director or CEO.
That fact that they don't want to talk to you is not an indicator that they are inactive.
The fact that they continue to pay the bills in a full station is an indicator that they're active enough to retain the office. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1288
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:00:00 -
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Eraza wrote:hm, i have noticed this a lot lately, all over, when looking for offices, some systems i work in, there is no chance of ever getting an office, and i still see no people in local where i see offices for rent, most of them, hundreds of millions of isk, even semi empty systems, 100m+ per month for an office yes, it's high demand and such, but still,
other things aside, i miss the time years ago, when i could just GET an office, no availability issues, mabey it's time to increase the number of offices per station, there are easily at least five times more corps then there were back when this system was designed, mabey the system should be updated?
You're looking in the wrong systems. My alt corp has four conveniently located offices throughout New Eden, and pays the grand total of 40k per month for all of them. They all have repair service, clone service, and ample manufacturing space, and are no farther than 5 jumps from major trade hubs. If you want super cheap rent, you're going to have to commute. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
91
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Posted - 2013.09.02 02:58:00 -
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Zappity wrote:OP, you are not reading the answers. Bills are not paid automatically so there are active players paying for those offices.
You have been able to set up auto pay for bills for quite a few years now so no, as long as the corp wallet has enough to cover the bills and auto pay was turned on (who dosent do this, seriously) then ya they will continue to be paid until the corp wallet gets too low. |

Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
688
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Posted - 2013.09.02 07:17:00 -
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Eraza wrote:hm, i have noticed this a lot lately, all over, when looking for offices, some systems i work in, there is no chance of ever getting an office, and i still see no people in local where i see offices for rent, most of them, hundreds of millions of isk, even semi empty systems, 100m+ per month for an office yes, it's high demand and such, but still,
other things aside, i miss the time years ago, when i could just GET an office, no availability issues, mabey it's time to increase the number of offices per station, there are easily at least five times more corps then there were back when this system was designed, mabey the system should be updated? if were just going to increase the amount of offices, why not just remove the office cap on stations period? oh thast right, because its first come first serve, you want them gone, either buy the office from them, or violence their assets until they have to close some offices to save cash. cant afford to do either of those? i dont think your corp has very much need of an office then |

Andracin
Sickology
221
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Posted - 2013.09.02 07:59:00 -
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You also have the option of contacting the corporations currently holding up offices. If they truely no longer need the office you can probably find one who will part with it for some ISK. |

Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.09.02 11:23:00 -
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Zappity wrote:OP, you are not reading the answers. Bills are not paid automatically so there are active players paying for those offices.
Rent can be paid automatically from the corp wallet, so if someone stopped playing with say 20mil in the acc and had set the 29k rent on auto it's going to be paid for a looong time.
Maybe if the owner of the office hasn't logged on for say 6 months it should go back on the market, other games do this to stop a finite number of assets being effectively locked out of use by players who have effectively quit.
Maybe CCP could also look into ensuring that only plexed players can pay the rent as well. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16292
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Posted - 2013.09.02 11:38:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Rent can be paid automatically from the corp wallet, so if someone stopped playing with say 20mil in the acc and had set the 29k rent on auto it's going to be paid for a looong time. GǪbut again, if the rent is 29k, there will be plenty of space in that station or the rent will shoot up very quickly. A full station will see a rental increase of just over 300% per month. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1299
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Posted - 2013.09.02 11:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:Rent can be paid automatically from the corp wallet, so if someone stopped playing with say 20mil in the acc and had set the 29k rent on auto it's going to be paid for a looong time. GǪbut again, if the rent is 29k, there will be plenty of space in that station or the rent will shoot up very quickly. A full station will see a rental increase of just over 300% per month.
Ninja'd by Tippia before I could reply.
I don't think OP really wants to pay rent in a full station, once he sees what the bill is. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Othran
Route One
583
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Posted - 2013.09.02 11:49:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:I don't think OP really wants to pay rent in a full station, once he sees what the bill is.
Indeed. I was once paying 76mill/month for an office in N-DQ (Great Wildlands) and that wasn't maxed out. Was bad enough for a shithole like GW though 
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.09.02 12:48:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? Because people who actually play the game need the space. Tough friggin luck...
If they are paying the bill it's their space. They were there first, move somewhere else and stop whining as though anyone owes you something... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |
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