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Xavier Higdon
Breakwater Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.02 13:26:00 -
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What is with the obsession of arguing against finite resources being available to active players? Is the older, more entrenched player base so afraid of new players? The guy above me uses that crap line of saying the OP thinks he's owed something, but he's arguing inactive players are owed the right to lock up resources. Arguing first come, first served only makes sense when the first guy is there, otherwise it's not that at all. You're arguing you're always first because you once were first. I understand that the entrenched players in this game are terrified of losing their status, but that just isn't a good reason to argue for the right of inactive players to hold finite resources. You guys would have flipped out if TEST could have defended their space by simply not logging in. And yet here you are, arguing that very point simply because it doesn't harm you today. Come tomorrow, when you find out some guy who hasn't logged in for a couple years is holding the only BPO of a ship you want, you'll be here crying like babies, claiming CCP intentionally gave him the BPO because they're helping "the other guys". |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
509
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Posted - 2013.09.02 13:41:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:What is with the obsession of arguing against finite resources being available to active players? Is the older, more entrenched player base so afraid of new players? The guy above me uses that crap line of saying the OP thinks he's owed something, but he's arguing inactive players are owed the right to lock up resources. Arguing first come, first served only makes sense when the first guy is there, otherwise it's not that at all. You're arguing you're always first because you once were first. I understand that the entrenched players in this game are terrified of losing their status, but that just isn't a good reason to argue for the right of inactive players to hold finite resources. You guys would have flipped out if TEST could have defended their space by simply not logging in. And yet here you are, arguing that very point simply because it doesn't harm you today. Come tomorrow, when you find out some guy who hasn't logged in for a couple years is holding the only BPO of a ship you want, you'll be here crying like babies, claiming CCP intentionally gave him the BPO because they're helping "the other guys".
I think you misunderstand.
What people are saying is there's already protection for these finite resources. Rent in a station increases drastically if that station is full. So if the OP is at a station that really is full, then the people in that station will be paying a lot for it. So if they aren't active, it's doubtful they will be paying it for long.
Office rent increases by over 300% if the station remains full. That means that if a corp rented the last office, and it cost the minimum of 10000 isk, and they held it for 12 months, by the end of the 12 months, they would have paid 2.65b isk total, and their next bill would be 5.3b isk. 6 months later (18 month in) they would have paid 1.9 trillion isk total.
The point being that stations don't stay full for that long, and if it's full, you can be damn sure the majority of the people continuing to pay are either active, or will have a very sad look on their face when they next become active.
The OP has no way of proving the people currently renting are inactive, they are only guessing at that, and with what I presented above, and what other have said, you should hopefully be able to see that it's unlikely they really are.
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Daimon Kaiera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.09.02 14:29:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? Because people who actually play the game need the space.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
509
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Posted - 2013.09.02 14:31:00 -
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Daimon Kaiera wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? Because people who actually play the game need the space. HFAFHFAFHHAHAHUFHWAUHFWUIHFHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAH
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Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate
Brigands of New Eden
86
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:06:00 -
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Daimon Kaiera wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? Because people who actually play the game need the space. HFAFHFAFHHAHAHUFHWAUHFWUIHFHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAH
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
1310
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:17:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:but he's arguing inactive players are owed the right to lock up resources.
If the corp that rents the office can continue to pay the bill each month, they have the right to it. It doesn't matter if the members log in, or not. If no one ever logs in and no one ever does anything to put money in the corp wallet, then one fine month that bill will not be paid, the corp hangar will be impounded, and the office will become available.
So there is indeed a limit to how long a truly inactive corp can hold onto an office. It's the size of their wallet when they leave.
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
257
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Posted - 2013.09.03 00:29:00 -
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Othran wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:I don't think OP really wants to pay rent in a full station, once he sees what the bill is. Indeed. I was once paying 76mill/month for an office in N-DQ (Great Wildlands) and that wasn't maxed out. Was bad enough for a shithole like GW though 
Paid 350/month for that one once ;)
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Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate
Brigands of New Eden
87
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Posted - 2013.09.03 04:57:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If they're still paying, why should they be kicked out? Because people who actually play the game need the space. Tough friggin luck... If they are paying the bill it's their space. They were there first, move somewhere else and stop whining as though anyone owes you something...and if you "tracked me down" to beg for my space I'd tell you to get stuffed....
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