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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:06:00 -
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Well either CCP got hacked again or there is a new exploit. Woke up, logged in and found that I had "Player Donated" all my ISK to someone named love555 that had only existed for one day. Filed a petiton and changed my password but since my old password was yH1,ooth odds of someone *****ing it were pretty slim.
Needless to say when I looked love555 was a day old character and CCP needs to ban the account and give me my ISK and anything that was removed from my account. Anyone else missing ISK this morning.
All I have to say is I am glad there is no abort on lab/manufacturing since that was where most of my T2 and high end BPOs were.
What a fine way to start the weekend.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Greavus
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:08:00 -
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Im sorry to hear that :( really does suck
Have u tried to petition?
Greavus
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:10:00 -
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Ultimate suckage Miri, not good to hear.
The problem I have with Eve's security is that if you discover someones user name there is nothing to prevent a brute force attack on the password.
I hope you get your stuff back, and if you need some cash until then, let me know.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:10:00 -
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I filed one right after I changed my Password or right before.. but yeah I did.
Now I only have to wait the 2-4 days before I get the email asking if I still have this problem, the bad guy swaps the ISK around and cancels this account and I am told too bad.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:12:00 -
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Not been hacked, got all my stuff and all my loving ISK.
So u must have been very unlucky.
It is malice software than can listen to ur keyboard so scan ur computer with a-virus, ad aware etc etc.
Maybe u should wipe ur drive and re-install the OS.
I would however suggest a long passwd with letters and numbers, and not use family names or obvius items etc.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Avon
Ultimate suckage Miri, not good to hear.
The problem I have with Eve's security is that if you discover someones user name there is nothing to prevent a brute force attack on the password.
I hope you get your stuff back, and if you need some cash until then, let me know.
That is why I think Eve had to be Hacked. My account name is something made up, which I will not put here, and as I listed my password was random characters upper, lower, and special characters. So, how did they get my account name, I never give it out, and how did they brute force that password, I made it hard on purpose. That is why I think that CCP or the Eve servers got hacked.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Rafein
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:15:00 -
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There has been a new wor going around that exploits and old hole in WIndows.
Update windows and Virus programs. was an update available today.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:15:00 -
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Ouch, I feel for you and hope CCP gets your stuff back fast.
It is however nice to see that the new factory design has made someone happy to date.
As for banning love555's account, I would bet dimonds vs coal that love555 is a char on a trial account but the only follow the money trail should work.
As far as I know there are very few ways to transfer isk or goods that does not leave a trail that CCP can follow.
Good luck getting you isk and stuff back.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:16:00 -
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Also, CCP's passwords can be quite long in length. Try using a phrase or something instead of a standard 8 character password.
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:16:00 -
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keyloggers 4tl
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Miri Tirzan
Originally by: Avon
Ultimate suckage Miri, not good to hear.
The problem I have with Eve's security is that if you discover someones user name there is nothing to prevent a brute force attack on the password.
I hope you get your stuff back, and if you need some cash until then, let me know.
That is why I think Eve had to be Hacked. My account name is something made up, which I will not put here, and as I listed my password was random characters upper, lower, and special characters. So, how did they get my account name, I never give it out, and how did they brute force that password, I made it hard on purpose. That is why I think that CCP or the Eve servers got hacked.
I think CCP servers being hacked is unlikely, but far from impossible.
It is more likely that your computer was compromised, or your details where somehow phished off you.
Either way, this does need to be looked in to, and whoever did this needs to have any accounts they may have banned.
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:19:00 -
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I think is technically impossible to ***** ccp's userdatabase due to the network structure they use. But i might be wrong.
However the biggest change (esp with the big exploit in Windows currently) is that you got infected by somekinds of keylogger. So i would suggest you reinstall windows and get yourself a good firewall/virus-scanner.
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Miri Tirzan
Originally by: Avon
Ultimate suckage Miri, not good to hear.
The problem I have with Eve's security is that if you discover someones user name there is nothing to prevent a brute force attack on the password.
I hope you get your stuff back, and if you need some cash until then, let me know.
That is why I think Eve had to be Hacked. My account name is something made up, which I will not put here, and as I listed my password was random characters upper, lower, and special characters. So, how did they get my account name, I never give it out, and how did they brute force that password, I made it hard on purpose. That is why I think that CCP or the Eve servers got hacked.
I think CCP servers being hacked is unlikely, but far from impossible.
It is more likely that your computer was compromised, or your details where somehow phished off you.
Either way, this does need to be looked in to, and whoever did this needs to have any accounts they may have banned.
I agree on that the server is unlike to be compromised, then loads of accounts would have been trifled with.
But I feel with ur companion, some people are so rotten that they should have been fed to the wolves.
Lets hope CCP rock bottom on this asap, and make a press statement.
Plan
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:22:00 -
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it wouldnt be CCP end i think u would have a trojin on youre PC have u visited an unoffical eve site or given youre password anywhere ? have u used the same password to log perhaps into a forum related to eve (unoffical fansite or the like)
That could be the source - my password used for eve is not used anywhere else just for this reason there have also been emails apparently targeting those that give their main email accounts on corp forums - alliance forusm claiming to be from CCP admin (perhaps u replied to one of these ?) u need to be very careful
No doubt its something at youre end and not CCP otherwise all the t2 BPOS would be in someones account and not just some lone characters ISK.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:22:00 -
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http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/03/technology/windows_virusthreat/index.htm?cnn=yes linky
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Chadawahee
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:26:00 -
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They better not do that to me or I am going to use some medieval torturing methods and teach them the meaning of pain
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Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:29:00 -
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ccp would have to ascertain that you didnt create a second trial account and pass the money to yourself on a different I.P. Also, the hack, I think, is not server side, but rather on your computer.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Darkdashing
ccp would have to ascertain that you didnt create a second trial account and pass the money to yourself on a different I.P. Also, the hack, I think, is not server side, but rather on your computer.
No they wouldn't. There would be no benefit to doing that whatsoever.
They're giving the money back, not creating new money to replace the old. Or at least they should.
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:31:00 -
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Yup its your PC I think.
Worth scanning it before pointing the finger elsewhere.
Also if your on a shared network, if your getting internet access via a server, someone could just be monitoring network traffic... I dont believe eve packets are encrypted and so your passwords are sent plain text over the network and internet... easy enough to sniff out given the right bit off software, and some time.
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Lovesan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:36:00 -
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Yeah, it happend to my friend too. (Scyrdein)
His account was hacked and his character was deleted. So he can`t restore his account because his email was changed. It happend before new year and he still offline because his petition is still awaiting a reply from a senior GM staff.
Why it`s so easy to change a email, and there is no confirmation for it? If user changes his email, then there should be confirmation sent to his old and then to his new email. Why there is no such simple security check in eve? 
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:41:00 -
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Some trading might involve revealing your account name - character transfers for example. Brute forcing the password does seem a bit far-fetched though. I dunno, it all sounds a bit nasty and like it's someone you know. To find out your account name, and do whatever it takes to work out your password. Let's face it, it's not going to be a random passing hacker, is it?
Anyway, hope it gets sorted out quickly for you.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:41:00 -
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why no simple security checks on eve - well hello i mean alts - corp theifs hello they actively encourage ingame greifing - some nasty types of individuals - and some ebayers have methods of getting youre details and clearning out yore account (mostly to sell on ebay) at least the horror stories we have read here. Sorry for youre lost but always use a non core email account for anything related to eve (keep youre secure email account out of it) - never give youre email account on any forums etc (or barring that have a 2nd one for correspondance forum registration etc) never visit any unoffical sites promising eve downloads ore other benefits (no doubt some are traps)
Keep youre PC secure.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:44:00 -
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KIA was once the victim of such an act.
We had everything stolen, all of our cash, every asset, and my main character was pod killed without implants many times.
The GMS passed it to a their leader, who sorted it with a very swift response. All of my items were returned, and my character given back his skill points.
It is against the law for such hacking, and had CCP released the identity of the culprit to me, i would of prosecuted him to the very best of my ability and means. Unfortunately, they chose not to.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:48:00 -
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yes i do hope its resolved - as for the legal source of the hacking if u took it to law enforcement agencies and it was in a country with a internet legal treaty with iceland - then perhaps if u took it further and the culprit was also in one country where they could be prosecuted then CCP may have been forced to reveal teh identy
That said i would think if its a piece of software u have picked up on some unoffical fansite or other type of website someone has spammed in game etc then it would probably be a country where they cant be touched - i think we all have a fair idea same place macroers - ebay farmers come from and this covers up to 40-50 countries where u could make a profit from such neforius activities in which case u wouldnt stand a chance
Just hope its resolved ASAP if it is in fact a act of illegal activitiy
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: sonofollo
yes i do hope its resolved - as for the legal source of the hacking if u took it to law enforcement agencies and it was in a country with a internet legal treaty with iceland - then perhaps if u took it further and the culprit was also in one country where they could be prosecuted then CCP may have been forced to reveal teh identy
GB, the servers are in great brittan and thus if the servers are hacked into the crime is comitted in GB.
Net law is actually rather interesting and can cause alot of odd discussions, way back when I played MUD's the USA passed a Decency act prohibiting anyone from using anything but aproved language on the net. That law only applied to US part of the internet.
I ran into a rather anoying player who was griefing me and we got into a discussion, after a while he stated that he had logged the entire discussion we had had and would report me to the powers that be.
I can not say how good it felt to explain to this person that I was sitting in sweden and was not bount by that law and that the MUD was also based in sweden and thus also followed swedish law, infact the only person that could get prosecuted by the US law was him.
Right on cue he told me to "**** off" and went away :)
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:03:00 -
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well moving to internet law there has been some progress but most countries outside the austrialia-new zealand, japan, GB and western europe and US-canada arent really able to be chased up for any offenses committed
Why do u think after the USA most spam is routed through china (originates from US scamsters - other regions of course) and routed through china to avoid detection or legal risk.
Though now the source can be tracked in some cases but still.
U need to be paranoid about internet security also
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:05:00 -
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Let's not wander in to a discussion on internet law.
This thread deserves to stay on topic.
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:14:00 -
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WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this.
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Alinea
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:18:00 -
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Tonight I have the same. Wallet empty to a player named "Dhampire". I see nothing else left atm. I don't know who can catch my PW. I'm a security freak, No scam sites in use very hard pw, unique never use on other place. No one knows my PW. My system is clear, never use outlook and other "big holes" in securtiy. Looking for response from CCP....
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Lyah Moonshade
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:26:00 -
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Smells like a keylogger to me as stated in previous posts. That or the Macrominers are looking into new ways of making easy ISK 
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Mirander
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:29:00 -
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Will things like zone alarm protect against key-loggers? How does one get infected by a key-logger?
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Creyster
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:31:00 -
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Well..that there are some major security holes in eve are well known.. when we have pointed that out and showed CCP what is wrong and how they can solve it you most offen dont get a reply..
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:21:07
WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this. and you had a 3-phrase password? only 3 characters? hahahah. next thing you are going to tell me is you have AOL for an ISP.
no really though 3 characters is NOT enough for a secure password. try along the order of at least 10 characters for a SECURE password.
If I was looking for the perpetrator, the finger of suspicion would be pointing right at the owner of this alt right now. What's the matter, BoB kill your indy or something?
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:21:07
WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this. and you had a 3-phrase password? only 3 characters? hahahah. next thing you are going to tell me is you have AOL for an ISP.
no really though 3 characters is NOT enough for a secure password. try along the order of at least 10 characters for a SECURE password.
If I was looking for the perpetrator, the finger of suspicion would be pointing right at the owner of this alt right now. What's the matter, BoB kill your indy or something?
yes i have declared a jihad against BoB. death to all their isks. 
im sorry that this memeber of BoB is a carebear in not getting proper windows updates, but how does that make someone who planted a keylogger on her computer, and then took her isk?
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: itsatrappp
Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:21:07
WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this. and you had a 3-phrase password? only 3 characters? hahahah. next thing you are going to tell me is you have AOL for an ISP.
no really though 3 characters is NOT enough for a secure password. try along the order of at least 10 characters for a SECURE password.
If I was looking for the perpetrator, the finger of suspicion would be pointing right at the owner of this alt right now. What's the matter, BoB kill your indy or something?
yes i have declared a jihad against BoB. death to all their isks.
im sorry that this memeber of BoB is a carebear in not getting proper windows updates, but how does that make someone who planted a keylogger on her computer, and then took her isk?
Seriously wtf are you talking about? It's gibberish.
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:40:53
Originally by: Gunstar Zero
Originally by: itsatrappp
Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:21:07
WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this. and you had a 3-phrase password? only 3 characters? hahahah. next thing you are going to tell me is you have AOL for an ISP.
no really though 3 characters is NOT enough for a secure password. try along the order of at least 10 characters for a SECURE password.
If I was looking for the perpetrator, the finger of suspicion would be pointing right at the owner of this alt right now. What's the matter, BoB kill your indy or something?
yes i have declared a jihad against BoB. death to all their isks.
im sorry that this memeber of BoB is a carebear in not getting proper windows updates, but how does that make someone who planted a keylogger on her computer, and then took her isk?
Seriously wtf are you talking about? It's gibberish.
ok i will slow down for you, because you can't seem to get it
the character Wanoah said that by first post makes me look like a hacker ,and i was considered a primary target in the hunt to who hacked her account..
now as for the second part, well you can expect your isk and or real life isk accounts to be removed soon if you don't know about the new windows patch.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 06/01/2006 12:43:12
apperantly the more ignorant among you, including the OP dont know the new virus going around, easily can insert loggers inot your comp.
microsoft wont be releasing the update for a few days i think, some other av progs allready have.
A report shows most people affected by this virus are people that view wmv p*rn movies
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Creyster
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Creyster on 06/01/2006 12:46:32
Originally by: itsatrappp
ok i will slow down for you, because you can't seem to get it
the character Wanoah said that by first post makes me look like a hacker ,and i was considered a primary target in the hunt to who hacked her account..
now as for the second part, well you can expect your isk and or real life isk accounts to be removed soon if you don't know about the new windows patch.
Are you retarded irl aswell????
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griff1972
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:46:00 -
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someone may of got your ip from you useing a team speak server or other such softwear, hack your pc and possimble inserted a key logger onto your pc, or may be a admin for a gaming web site where they have an eve froum and would be able to get your pc's ip
Get your self a virus/trojan scanner more than 1 as some find stuff others dont, keep its data base upto date and install a firewall
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:48:00 -
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well this suck
lets hope is not ccp to blame
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Creyster
Edited by: Creyster on 06/01/2006 12:46:32
Originally by: itsatrappp
ok i will slow down for you, because you can't seem to get it
the character Wanoah said that by first post makes me look like a hacker ,and i was considered a primary target in the hunt to who hacked her account..
now as for the second part, well you can expect your isk and or real life isk accounts to be removed soon if you don't know about the new windows patch.
Are you retarded irl aswell????
hello carebear, new worm on internet=if you don't patch your accounts will get hacked. gosh you carebears think that you are safe?
you might as well thank me now for informing you of this
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Serem
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Posted - 2006.01.06 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
Edited by: Gonada on 06/01/2006 12:43:12
microsoft wont be releasing the update for a few days i think, some other av progs allready have.
In case you are referring to the recent wmf exploit: Microsoft released a patch a couple of hours ago.
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Udat
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:01:00 -
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Please keep this on topic.
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Eagleye Rendar
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:01:00 -
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I would like our super-expert technicians of keyloggers like Isatrapp to explain us a few things:
1- where did you read that the new vulnerability of Windows would let a hacker steal your passwords ? Link to official sources please.
2- how did the hacker get to know of the existance of Miri Tirzan ? There are millions of users on the internet and to contact one to install a keylogger on his/her computer you must know their IP. This is quite hard to get to know unless the hacker is sniffing the network of CCP.
The only other chance is that Miri Tirzan got to a website owned by the hacker and that can exploit windows security holes to install a keylogger program on a PC. But even then, Miri must have a static IP and no protection whatsoever installed on or before his/her computer...
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:12:00 -
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Ok, I scanned my system just to make sure and I do not have any know virus or key loggers. I have all current patches, I do computer security for a living and have my system locked down.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 13:13:00
Originally by: Eagleye Rendar
I would like our super-expert technicians of keyloggers like Isatrapp to explain us a few things:
1- where did you read that the new vulnerability of Windows would let a hacker steal your passwords ? Link to official sources please.
2- how did the hacker get to know of the existance of Miri Tirzan ? There are millions of users on the internet and to contact one to install a keylogger on his/her computer you must know their IP. This is quite hard to get to know unless the hacker is sniffing the network of CCP.
The only other chance is that Miri Tirzan got to a website owned by the hacker and that can exploit windows security holes to install a keylogger program on a PC. But even then, Miri must have a static IP and no protection whatsoever installed on or before his/her computer...
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/01/05/wmfflaw/index.html
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you better call your bank
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lawl
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the WMFFLAW allows you to upload whatever the heck you want onto peoples computers
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Serem
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eagleye Rendar
I would like our super-expert technicians of keyloggers like Isatrapp to explain us a few things:
1- where did you read that the new vulnerability of Windows would let a hacker steal your passwords ? Link to official sources please.
2- how did the hacker get to know of the existance of Miri Tirzan ? There are millions of users on the internet and to contact one to install a keylogger on his/her computer you must know their IP. This is quite hard to get to know unless the hacker is sniffing the network of CCP.
The only other chance is that Miri Tirzan got to a website owned by the hacker and that can exploit windows security holes to install a keylogger program on a PC. But even then, Miri must have a static IP and no protection whatsoever installed on or before his/her computer...
Just atheory of course:
Most of the players visit fansites and forums every now and then. Every single site/forum could contain such a wmf file desinged to log your account data and send it. If you are using Internet Explorer then clicking on a link that contains such a wmf file (could also be named as .jpeg or .gif) will automatically allow remote code execution.
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Serpensis
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:17:00 -
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to the op: CCP should be able to find the IP which the basterward who emptied your account connected from, and then file a petition (!) with the ISP responsible for that IP-range.
On another note, if CCP is serious about their reputation, they should actually ban all accounts belonging to/paid by that user/creditcard, to show that they dont tolerate this sort of monkeybusiness. Imho, that is.
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:18:00 -
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do you use any eve add-ons, i.e
char manager
quickfit
shipfit
various trading export software
i.e. something that could be logging and forwarding info?
or
do you have roomies or corpmates who've been given your pword to help out you forgot about?
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:19:00 -
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Oh, and I dont use IE because of the holes in it.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
do you use any eve add-ons, i.e
char manager
quickfit
shipfit
various trading export software
i.e. something that could be logging and forwarding info?
or
do you have roomies or corpmates who've been given your pword to help out you forgot about?
none of the above. I will not use addons that need my account name or password. I dont share my password.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:22:00 -
[52]
Originally by: itsatrappp
Originally by: Creyster
Edited by: Creyster on 06/01/2006 12:46:32
Originally by: itsatrappp
ok i will slow down for you, because you can't seem to get it
the character Wanoah said that by first post makes me look like a hacker ,and i was considered a primary target in the hunt to who hacked her account..
now as for the second part, well you can expect your isk and or real life isk accounts to be removed soon if you don't know about the new windows patch.
Are you retarded irl aswell????
hello carebear, new worm on internet=if you don't patch your accounts will get hacked. gosh you carebears think that you are safe?
you might as well thank me now for informing you of this
I ran an unpatched copy of windows XP (no SP1, or SP2) for over six months on ADSL and never got the most minor virus. Look up "firewall" on Google, and install one and firefox. Oh and don't install warezed programs.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:26:00 -
[53]
Miri, just petition and pass on all details to the GM's.
If your a/c was hacked it will be fixed and the player banned.
I remember when KIA got done over in NVA, it was all fixed expertly by the GM's.
dbp
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:27:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Gonada
A report shows most people affected by this virus are people that view wmv p*rn movies
 *coughs* Better run a scan... 
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Eagleye Rendar
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:31:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Eagleye Rendar on 06/01/2006 13:33:15
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 13:13:00
1)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/01/05/wmfflaw/index.html
2)
you better call your bank
3)
lawl
4)
the WMFFLAW allows you to upload whatever the heck you want onto peoples computers
1) CNN is not an official source about Windows OS. I probably know more about Windows than Marsha Walton.
2) my bank does not use a simple password protection like MMORPGs. I hope your bank does the same, assuming you are old enough to be able to own a bank account. Also, does this advice come from someone who has so strong beliefs and knowledges but can't notice that the OP password was composed from 8 charachters and not 3 ? Ah well...
4) to upload something somewhere you must first know where is this somewhere and how to contact it. The only real way the OP could get a keylogger is through a web page, but I doubt he visited a chinese website like those that offer you ingame money etc, or at least I hope he didn't.
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Dunhill Malakut
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:34:00 -
[56]
Hmmmm.... the server/database OS is ***cough cough*** windows (hack friendly OS).
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netochka
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:35:00 -
[57]
U really need to understand what hacking is.
Anyone could backdrop CCP's line, port scan, find the right entry, conenct the port, slam thru using brute force.
There are thousands of ways of hacking a server/mainframe
I suggest u check ur pc for a keylogger
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netochka
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:36:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Dunhill Malakut
Hmmmm.... the server/database OS is ***cough cough*** windows (hack friendly OS).
And u are a fool, windows is no more hack friendly than a stupid linux box
i have both
if you cant protect your pc dont ***** when u get hacked
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:36:00 -
[59]
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 13:39:02
Originally by: Eagleye Rendar
Edited by: Eagleye Rendar on 06/01/2006 13:33:15
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 13:13:00
1)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/01/05/wmfflaw/index.html
2)
you better call your bank
3)
lawl
4)
the WMFFLAW allows you to upload whatever the heck you want onto peoples computers
1) CNN is not an official source about Windows OS. I probably know more about Windows than Marsha Walton.
2) my bank does not use a simple password protection like MMORPGs. I hope your bank does the same, assuming you are old enough to be able to own a bank account. Also, does this advice come from someone who has so strong beliefs and knowledges but can't notice that the OP password was composed from 8 charachters and not 3 ? Ah well...
4) to upload something somewhere you must first know where is this somewhere and how to contact it. The only real way the OP could get a keylogger is through a web page, but I doubt he visited a chinese website like those that offer you ingame money etc, or at least I hope he didn't.
here you go, and lawl that cnn is not an offical source
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/912840.mspx
pure ownage
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Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:40:00 -
[60]
You need to education yourself with internet security, simple things like using different password with certain amount of password complexity helps along away too, when I say password complexity, using uppercase, lowercase and special characters can be your best friend and changing you're password every month also a good pointer.
Since you use a shared medium with other people around the world, you run the risk every time you log onto the internet.
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Dunhill Malakut
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:42:00 -
[61]
Originally by: netochka
Originally by: Dunhill Malakut
Hmmmm.... the server/database OS is ***cough cough*** windows (hack friendly OS).
And u are a fool, windows is no more hack friendly than a stupid linux box
i have both
if you cant protect your pc dont ***** when u get hacked
Don't be so aggressive!
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netochka
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:47:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Dunhill Malakut
Originally by: netochka
Originally by: Dunhill Malakut
Hmmmm.... the server/database OS is ***cough cough*** windows (hack friendly OS).
And u are a fool, windows is no more hack friendly than a stupid linux box
i have both
if you cant protect your pc dont ***** when u get hacked
Don't be so aggressive!
Sorry, i just hate n00bs screaming H4X everytime there pc gets wasted by sumone
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Alerce
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:47:00 -
[63]
If you use the hidden option: remember password, then remove that option.
Because at that point, your password can be read from the config file.
Its not even encrypted.
Better never use that option and do not watch stupid EVE movies nowadays, because of the hole in windows, that is pretty dangerous.
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Dudley Beekle
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:51:00 -
[64]
I'm beginning to get a bad feeling about this. I can't log in using my normal account any longer. It was fine this morning. Given the amount of security on my machines and the fact that I don't often install anything I doubt if it's a keylogger.
Just have to wait for a response to my email I guess 
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empire nublette
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Posted - 2006.01.06 13:59:00 -
[65]
Originally by: itsatrappp
Edited by: itsatrappp on 06/01/2006 12:21:07
WRONG FORUM NOOB, mods please move this. and you had a 3-phrase password? only 3 characters? hahahah. next thing you are going to tell me is you have AOL for an ISP.
no really though 3 characters is NOT enough for a secure password. try along the order of at least 10 characters for a SECURE password.
the password he gave out was 8 characters! it included a comma and uppercase characters.
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Mina Roberts
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:02:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Mina Roberts on 06/01/2006 14:02:29
i to cannot log in on 2 of my accounts - password wrong
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Olsen'Kra
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:02:00 -
[67]
I hope this is sorted, as I am loged/posting in with this character, but I cannot get into "My account" settings with the same info.. Something very unsettling is going on..
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krims0n
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:02:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Dudley Beekle
I'm beginning to get a bad feeling about this. I can't log in using my normal account any longer. It was fine this morning. Given the amount of security on my machines and the fact that I don't often install anything I doubt if it's a keylogger.
Just have to wait for a response to my email I guess
Same here. We're doomed !
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Ruth Angelstar
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:04:00 -
[69]
i can also not log onto my main account, and it did have the information saved on firefox, i guess it compromised from there :S
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Lord Helios
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:04:00 -
[70]
i carnt login to my main account either password is wrong apperently
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The Foundation
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:05:00 -
[71]
I was in game and on forums before downtime. When I tried to log back into forums it said my password was incorrect, I tried to login to my account and same thing. I requested password change, still waiting on it to be sent me email (has been 30 mins). I hope to not find anything missing   .
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Muleee
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:11:00 -
[72]
Can't login to the forums on my main account either.... hmmm
Best of CCP to not rush the servers back up until we get more info.
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Uggster
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:12:00 -
[73]
This is begining to sound a bit nasty
As someone who does not pretend to be a computer whizz-kid I have an hounest question :
If I changed my password would someone using a keystroke tracking program be able to know it right away or would they have to keep checking up on data coming to them ( or however it's done) to see a repeated word/alpha-numeric combo that they could then try as my PW ?
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Lina Morgai
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:14:00 -
[74]
Originally by: The Foundation
I requested password change, still waiting on it to be sent me email (has been 30 mins). I hope to not find anything missing .
I'm in the same situation and I'm damn worried.
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Mark Amarr
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:17:00 -
[75]
This is worrying.
I have 2 accounts - I can't check on server at the moment as it appears to be down, but when I try to log into forums with my other account it says 'login credentials incorrect' - but this one is still okay.
I know I have my password and login right, so the only way they could be incorrect is if someone/something else has changed 'em
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:20:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Miri Tirzan
Oh, and I dont use IE because of the holes in it.
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Sexy Bear
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:21:00 -
[77]
Servers down due to database problems: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=274812
Maybe the cause for not being able to access certain accounts?
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:24:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Uggster
This is begining to sound a bit nasty
As someone who does not pretend to be a computer whizz-kid I have an hounest question :
If I changed my password would someone using a keystroke tracking program be able to know it right away or would they have to keep checking up on data coming to them ( or however it's done) to see a repeated word/alpha-numeric combo that they could then try as my PW ?
That would only depend on the patience or skills of the hacker : imo yes they will see everything and its of almost no use to change the password till oyu get rid of that logger.
I suggest you change password immediately , delete the logger and change it again.
On another note : i must say i'm very very dissapointed by that alt who calls himself itsatrap :
i'm very close to thinking you actually support this kind of behaviour and for that you should be podded multiple times on all the characters you have without a clone. After that your accounts should be banned and you should disconnect your computer and blow up your modem , after that blow up the computer aswell because you're to much of an ass to be owning one anyhow.
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zepter
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:25:00 -
[79]
i can't log in with my other account either..
let's hope the cause is the database problems.
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Antic
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:32:00 -
[80]
Dont forget the MRU lists. You dont need to keylog to steal a pasword nowadays. If your windows have the password saving or auto keyword recognizing enabled, wich most has, then all the data, such as your passwords, are saved in the MRU lists. A trojan only have to steal these lists and then they have access to a great deal of information.
Run Adaware for example and it will find those lists for you and give you the option to delete everything currently in them (wich dosnt mean they wont fill up again in teh future).
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Uggster
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:34:00 -
[81]
Originally by: RedClaws
Originally by: Uggster
This is begining to sound a bit nasty
As someone who does not pretend to be a computer whizz-kid I have an hounest question :
If I changed my password would someone using a keystroke tracking program be able to know it right away or would they have to keep checking up on data coming to them ( or however it's done) to see a repeated word/alpha-numeric combo that they could then try as my PW ?
That would only depend on the patience or skills of the hacker : imo yes they will see everything and its of almost no use to change the password till oyu get rid of that logger.
I suggest you change password immediately , delete the logger and change it again.
On another note : i must say i'm very very dissapointed by that alt who calls himself itsatrap :
i'm very close to thinking you actually support this kind of behaviour and for that you should be podded multiple times on all the characters you have without a clone. After that your accounts should be banned and you should disconnect your computer and blow up your modem , after that blow up the computer aswell because you're to much of an ass to be owning one anyhow.
Thx for the advice and also quoted for truth.
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Ceyrin
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:37:00 -
[82]
Look at the login window of EVE. there is a IMPORTANT message. some of you would changed the password. you get a email from ccp for this info.
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Nexus1972
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:38:00 -
[83]
Interestingly yesterday morning when i tried to log in i was told my account was disabled, and that my subscription payment had failed. Upon checking my card details had disappeared. Upon re-inserting my card details it worked. Very starnge because at no time has there been < ú4000 in the account - I put it down to a db glitch - there isnt anything more sinister going on is there?
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:38:00 -
[84]
Well, with so many accounts being attacked and CCPs database being down. One might think that someone hacked the server, ripped off ISK and things, then hosed the DB so that the theft could not be traced.
So for those that say I need to clean up my PC, I doubt that my PC compromised 50+ accounts and trashed a DB.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:40:00 -
[85]
think my poor 2nd account (wich is pritty much broke  ) got affected aswell wich a reset password
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:40:00 -
[86]
how can you surf the web when your pc is "locked down"?
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Jack Tau
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:44:00 -
[87]
I think it is extremely unlikely that eve was hacked, as they will use a 1-way encryption method that would make stolen password data useless. Its far, far more likely that a lot of people have had a keylogger on there machine for some time and not noticed.
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Ramses OverDark
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:46:00 -
[88]
"Sorry, i just hate n00bs screaming H4X everytime there pc gets wasted by sumone"
But of course you do... must hurt even more when they are, as in this instance, quite correct.
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Udat
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Posted - 2006.01.06 14:57:00 -
[89]
Now that there is an offical response from Oveur, please read this thread.
I will lock this thread to allow the discussion to take place in the stickied thread.
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