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Ada Wong	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:37:00 - [1] In order to all the "i want this and that" threads here i come: I think it was in E-ON where i read "Titans are going to be the biggest things in eve althaught we planing for something REAL BIG" now i wonder what could that be? Ever heard of the theroy of the Dyson Sphere? (seen in lots of movies and also in the game Freelancer) Basicaly a gigantic sphere as big as a solar system and you live on the inside of it. NOW ccp! I WANT A DYSON SPHEERE ! p.s. : wrote drunk, may i forgive myself tomorrow :)
Koro Kar'Amarr	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:39:00 - [2] I thought you were talking about the new dyson ball vacuum cleaner thingy.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:41:00 - [3] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/01/2006 01:42:10 Dyson spheres would be truly awesome. However, they lie completely beyond the technological level of the EVE civilization. The resources required would be not that of a ship, or a station, but a trillion times more--that of a hundred PLANETS (or more). And building one that had gravity (required if you want to have a civilization living on the inside, to keep the atmosphere down) would mean it would spin, which would require the material it is made of to be as strong as an atomic nucleus. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Slaveabuser	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:44:00 - [4] Ok. No more star trek for you. Quote: Originally by: Eris Discordia:As a minmatar I have to say I'm Amarr property.
Ada Wong	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:46:00 - [5] but but but..... :(
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 08/01/2006 01:50:13 I want a Dyson Sphere with a DoomsDay device, and an engine. Death Stars are just to damned tiny.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Slaveabuser Ok. No more star trek for you. Star trek is not nearly cool enough to have Dyson Spheres. OK, so one episode had one. I don't care. That was TNG, that was awesome, and it even starred Scotty - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
The Enlightened	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:54:00 - [8] Deathstar baby yeah!
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Dark Shikari And building one that had gravity (required if you want to have a civilization living on the inside, to keep the atmosphere down) would mean it would spin, which would require the material it is made of to be as strong as an atomic nucleus. Theres artificial gravity in the eve universe... Anyways, hows about a ring world?
Amataras	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:55:00 - [10] I read that Dyson Spheres are theoretically impossible to build due to a huge number of conflicting forces. The nearest anyone could get would be a "Dyson Cluster" of several separate plates orbiting a star in a sphere-like formation. The Eve Diplomacy Table
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:55:00 - [11] I predicted this topic several hours ago, along with my reply to it, which will be about the mobius sphere. I'd also like to see a mobius sphere. Maybe as part of an event.
Ada Wong	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:56:00 - [12] weeeeee gimme a ringworld gimme gimme
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 01:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Dark Shikari And building one that had gravity (required if you want to have a civilization living on the inside, to keep the atmosphere down) would mean it would spin, which would require the material it is made of to be as strong as an atomic nucleus. Theres artificial gravity in the eve universe... Sure? Its not mentioned anywhere, but if there is, that would solve that problem. At the same time, if a single artificial gravity generator failed, the storms generated would be insane. Quote: Anyways, hows about a ring world? Assuming you don't spin it for gravity and instead have gravity generators, a ringworld is much more reasonable. You'd have to have a very powerful solar-powered laser to defend it against meteors, but the cost depends on the size. A Niven-sized standard ringworld is a few hundred meters thick, 1 AU in radius, 1 million kilometers wide, with 1000 km high walls. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/01/2006 01:57:14 Originally by: Hllaxiu Theres artificial gravity in the eve universe... Sure? Its not mentioned anywhere, but if there is, that would solve that problem. The new chronicle in EON issue 2 denoted artificial gravity inside a rogue drone hive. Also, ships have crews so I would assume artificial gravity is a must there.
Nanus Parkite	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:12:00 - [15] Theres at least 1 quite old chronicle which desribes someone walking around in their ship and climbing ladders which infers artificial gravity.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:31:00 - [16] I want to live inside a Rubic's Cube! No wait... that's not right
Filan	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:32:00 - [17] hmm a ring world would be interesting but the only ones i know are the Halos.
Gib Goblin	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:34:00 - [18] There must be some kind of artificial gravity in EVE, otherwise how do you account for the fact ships can accelerate and decelerate to speeds beyond that of light...ie WarpDrive The inertia would squish anything living and crush just about everything else. -- Vice Admiral - Military Command -- -- --- --- ---- ----- ------ I don't 'do' dead. ------ ----- ---- --- --- --
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Gib Goblin There must be some kind of artificial gravity in EVE, otherwise how do you account for the fact ships can accelerate and decelerate to speeds beyond that of light...ie WarpDrive The inertia would squish anything living and crush just about everything else. No normal drive, by definition, could speed up faster than light. Any such drive, however it worked, would be inertialess. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
MWEI	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:39:00 - [20] Edited by: MWEI on 08/01/2006 02:39:18 Uhm, as for gravity... Anyone that has the technology to buil the sphere to begin with should have the basic idea of how to create artificial gravity? Its like saying, building a cruise ship have problems because theres no steam engine big enough to push it. Uhm, maybe bad example, but you get the idea
Ayla Vanir	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:40:00 - [21] Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:43:21 Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:40:51 Originally by: Filan hmm a ring world would be interesting but the only ones i know are the Halos. There was a trilogy of sci-fi books I'd read a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away...?) entitled Titan, Wizard & Daemon. There was some sort of a ring world involved. And just to complete my transformation to geek, I'll mention that Tolkien's creation story described in the Valequenta Silmarillion, and subsequent chapters on the origins of Middle Earth and it's denizens, involved Middle earth as being flat or otherwise non-sphere shaped. When the 'breaking of the world' came to pass, the only way for the middle-earth bound elves to get back to their original lands was to "take the straight path" (quotes from Tolkien) and "escape the circles of the world". That was my understanding / interpretation of it anyway. [edited to correct some things needing correcting Escrow Market Revamp
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:44:00 - [22] Originally by: MWEI Edited by: MWEI on 08/01/2006 02:39:18 Uhm, as for gravity... Anyone that has the technology to buil the sphere to begin with should have the basic idea of how to create artificial gravity? Its like saying, building a cruise ship have problems because theres no steam engine big enough to push it. Uhm, maybe bad example, but you get the idea Not really. We do not know, today, whether artificial gravity is possible, let alone how to do it. We do know how to build a ringworld, if only theoretically - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
David Sinclair	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:47:00 - [23] Originally by: The Enlightened Deathstar baby yeah! The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Quafe.
Irias Salo	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:48:00 - [24] In the book Ringworld (been a while since I read it) but gravity and that I think was explained. Also didn't say that planets themselves where incorporated into the ring. Now if that was just a ring, then as said earlier a full sphere would take thousands the amount of minerals needed for a titan. Sig designed by Deadeye Dave contact him for more info.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Irias Salo In the book Ringworld (been a while since I read it) but gravity and that I think was explained. Also didn't say that planets themselves where incorporated into the ring. Ringworld said that a solar system was converted into a ring, or at least the mass of a solar system. "Gravity" is simply the spinning of the ring, at about 750 miles per second. Quote: Now if that was just a ring, then as said earlier a full sphere would take thousands the amount of minerals needed for a titan. Well a titan is only a few miles long... maybe trillions of trillions? - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.08 02:59:00 - [26] We have Hardin's Disco Balls in EVE. Not as large as Dyson Sphere i'd guess, but infinitely superior... :s
Lord Aradon	Posted - 2006.01.08 03:08:00 - [27] Edited by: Lord Aradon on 08/01/2006 03:08:21 woopsie, nearly made a mockery of myself then Free Websites
Tekka	Posted - 2006.01.08 03:13:00 - [28] Dyson is a brand of vacum cleaners, thus I was expecting a Sphere that sucked everything into it. ¼_¼
Xanthus Aurellius	Posted - 2006.01.08 05:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Ayla Vanir Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:43:21 Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:40:51 Originally by: Filan hmm a ring world would be interesting but the only ones i know are the Halos. There was a trilogy of sci-fi books I'd read a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away...?) entitled Titan, Wizard & Daemon. There was some sort of a ring world involved. And just to complete my transformation to geek, I'll mention that Tolkien's creation story described in the Valequenta Silmarillion, and subsequent chapters on the origins of Middle Earth and it's denizens, involved Middle earth as being flat or otherwise non-sphere shaped. When the 'breaking of the world' came to pass, the only way for the middle-earth bound elves to get back to their original lands was to "take the straight path" (quotes from Tolkien) and "escape the circles of the world". That was my understanding / interpretation of it anyway. [edited to correct some things needing correcting All hail Larry Niven and the Ringworld series! No other ringworld is as cool. Therefore: Read Ringworld, or you're not truely a geek.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.08 05:09:00 - [30] Originally by: Xanthus Aurellius Originally by: Ayla Vanir Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:43:21 Edited by: Ayla Vanir on 08/01/2006 02:40:51 Originally by: Filan hmm a ring world would be interesting but the only ones i know are the Halos. There was a trilogy of sci-fi books I'd read a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away...?) entitled Titan, Wizard & Daemon. There was some sort of a ring world involved. And just to complete my transformation to geek, I'll mention that Tolkien's creation story described in the Valequenta Silmarillion, and subsequent chapters on the origins of Middle Earth and it's denizens, involved Middle earth as being flat or otherwise non-sphere shaped. When the 'breaking of the world' came to pass, the only way for the middle-earth bound elves to get back to their original lands was to "take the straight path" (quotes from Tolkien) and "escape the circles of the world". That was my understanding / interpretation of it anyway. [edited to correct some things needing correcting All hail Larry Niven and the Ringworld series! No other ringworld is as cool. Therefore: Read Ringworld, or you're not truely a geek. And there's now four books in the series - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.

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