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Bane Veradun
Failcascade Imminent
27
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:13:00 -
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Only a fool believes in the security of hisec. I-áam you. I am the madness that lurks within you all, begging to be free at every moment in your deepest animal mind. I am what you hide from in your beds every night.-á I am what you sedate into silence and paralysis when you go to the nocturnal haven where I cannot tread. |

Addavar Thearox
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:24:00 -
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Some 400 mil dual boxing battleship setups can rake in as much as 100mill an hour on level 4s. This is pure darwinism at its finest. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
800
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:48:00 -
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In fairness, nowhere is safe if you fly a 60bil Navy Raven. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4333
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:55:00 -
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Highsec clearly needs to be made safer, or missions done by 60bil isk ravens need to be buffed to compensate the pilots for their risk There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Highsec clearly needs to be made safer, or missions done by 60bil isk ravens need to be buffed to compensate the pilots for their risk Any non-cap ship worth over 10 Billion ISK shoud be automatically invulnerable. After all it's only fair....
Heh..heh heh...HA HA HA HA HA HA HA , sometimes I'm so funny... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |

Abdullah Bahdoon
Somali Initiative for Dialogue and Posting
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:11:00 -
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This is not fair ! Officer spawns happen more often in highsec than in nullsec. |

Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:25:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Just made some maths... @550 million per PLEX, we're talking about spending the equivalent to 1,600 euros in a ship + 900 in bounties. Kinda outrageous for some space pixels. 
Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK.
In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels?
Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought..
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13512
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:50:00 -
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Ihazcheez Hashur wrote: Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK.
In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels?
Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought..
If a bank did that, said carebear would never see it, the money would just disappear into "fees".
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Lyttle Spacedust
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:54:00 -
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OK, so what's the point of having theseships if you cant fly it and show it off in hi-sec? |

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
85
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:07:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link. The post links to a KM Against forum rules.
Good thing you quoted it and now posted it yourself...
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Alara IonStorm
5307
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:10:00 -
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Lyttle Spacedust wrote:OK, so what's the point of having theseships if you cant fly it and show it off in hi-sec? Modules give you an advantage in a task, it is up to you to weigh whether the risk of that advantage is worth the reward of increased performance. When you over bling a ship to the point where it gives no meaningful advantage in such task such as over stacking or over active tanking then you create risk without reward. To put it another way having an over swollen **** is useless if you can't **** her with it.
These modules are meant to be used, if you have over expensive bling you don't need, leave it in the hanger. Take screen caps to show it off safely, you can peacock it all you want in space, just don't be surprised when a hunter shoots and stuffs your bird. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4340
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:29:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:To put it another way having an over swollen **** is useless if you can't **** her with it.
you can peacock it all you want in space, just don't be surprised when a hunter shoots and stuffs your bird. To put it another way, the over swollen **** is chopped off There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Maliandra
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.09.15 07:25:00 -
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Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Just made some maths... @550 million per PLEX, we're talking about spending the equivalent to 1,600 euros in a ship + 900 in bounties. Kinda outrageous for some space pixels.  Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK. In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels? Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought.. It doesn't quite work like that though, considering I can "make" $20 by going into hi-sec with some alts and AFK mining while I do house chores for the day.
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
209
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Posted - 2013.09.15 08:14:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion.
Except the SNI is nowhere near as efficient as the RNI for Lvl 4 PVE.
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3401
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Posted - 2013.09.15 08:54:00 -
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The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.
We are the players.
So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.
It's dumb all around.
Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?
So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.
Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.
Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed. |

Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1515
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:20:00 -
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I have to say, makes me smile that I know and went to school with 2 of the guys that pulled that off. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
171
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Posted - 2013.09.15 12:19:00 -
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Herzog - absolutely agree - we the players made that ship what it was and now we are circle-jerking it's demise. This was one of the reasons I wrote the post that included this mittani redirect under the heading What are your Eve goals - and I still subscribe to the fact that it is overkill, but what do you spend your in-game money on? I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |

baltec1
Bat Country
8003
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:08:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.
We are the players.
So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.
It's dumb all around.
Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?
So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.
Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.
Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed.
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:56:00 -
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the only safe place is nullsec, invunerable stations and stuff... pewww, its more risk shooting an asteroid in highsec ... |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13820
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:09:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:the only safe place is nullsec, invunerable stations and stuff... pewww, its more risk shooting an asteroid in highsec Harry Forever, bringing danger to nullsec erryday**
**Cynofrigs and Indys only, exclusions may apply. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
Article 8 is ToSh |

Caliph Muhammed
Perkone Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:15:00 -
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A lot of jelly and butthurt in this thread. He bought the ship to use it and unlike 99% here can afford to do so. |

Calel
S.H.I.E.L.D Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:16:00 -
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Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13820
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:22:00 -
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Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. WatGäó
I'm not sure if you're serious, or if you're even playing the same game as the rest of us. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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BLACK-STAR
495
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:24:00 -
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Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. That's possibly the dumbest thing I ever read today. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1416
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:32:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?
Isn't it great?
Also, he indicates that 'we the players' influence that market. Personally, I've never done any trade in those sorts of bling modules, so I've never had any influence whatsoever on their prices. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1416
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:33:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. That's possibly the dumbest thing I ever read today.
Day's just getting started. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:56:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:baltec1 wrote:
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?
Isn't it great? Also, he indicates that 'we the players' influence that market. Personally, I've never done any trade in those sorts of bling modules, so I've never had any influence whatsoever on their prices. Sigh, I mean at least when Boat lost a titan it was exciting, you know... Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications" |

Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:21:00 -
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some people have way of tracking people in came like a GPS. someone has a program that tells them what ship is where and fitted with what . i knew of a site that can track players in game 2 years ago..I stop playing and now i don't remember what that site was. |

Alara IonStorm
5330
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:38:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion. Except the SNI is nowhere near as efficient as the RNI for Lvl 4 PVE. And? Doesn't make My Navy Scorp less efficient then That 44 billion ISK sh*t fit[, which was the only thing I was comparing, not the hulls themselves.
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Fighter Maurset
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:18:00 -
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Just have to ask here...
Apparently the podded fella can afford to loose his ship, since he placed a 1 billion bounty on each of the (32?) players involved in ganking him. Does this not sum up to a value of 160 billion in bounty damage? I would say this gives the podded fella the final laugh...
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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