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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1735
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:18:00 -
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The story at themittani.com:
http://themittani.com/news/60-billion-isk-raven-down-gankers-rejoice
Holy mother of God. How can anyone fly a ship worth 60 billion? 
I'm a full time devoted carebear, and I've heard enough horror stories to know that bling ships are walking dead ships. But that Navy Raven makes the average bling look cheap. Gankers estimate loss in ~60 billion, killmail estimates it in 44 billion.
In one hand I feel bad for the guy (you must really be very carebear to buy almost the best possible tank) but on the other hand... he should had known better. All what his tank needed to die were numbers.
Auntie Ish advice to carebears: don't fly bling ships. Seriously. Violet = poo.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
892
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:26:00 -
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Who said he got ISK from carebear grind? Maybe he just happen to have enough throwaway RL cash for PLEX and he just enjoyed 1 mission per day flying shinies? Not smartest thing to do but v0v
Also his employment history is quite stretched over the years, I wouldn't be surprised if that toon was also a part of his shopping frenzy. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
53
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:28:00 -
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Damn. While I normally have limited respect for gankers, that was a damn fine job. |

Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
64
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:28:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:The story at themittani.com: http://themittani.com/news/60-billion-isk-raven-down-gankers-rejoiceHoly mother of God. How can anyone fly a ship worth 60 billion?  I'm a full time devoted carebear, and I've heard enough horror stories to know that bling ships are walking dead ships. But that Navy Raven makes the average bling look cheap. Gankers estimate loss in ~60 billion, killmail estimates it in 44 billion. In one hand I feel bad for the guy (you must really be very carebear to buy almost the best possible tank) but on the other hand... he should had known better. All what his tank needed to die were numbers. Auntie Ish advice to carebears: don't fly bling ships. Seriously. Violet = poo.  Reported for posting kill mail. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |

Alara IonStorm
5278
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:30:00 -
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The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.
Gold. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1736
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:33:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.  Gold.
Wait a minute... he was ganked by 33 guys... he should just hire some mercs for that price, shouldn't him?  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
892
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:34:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail.
Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link.
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Alara IonStorm
5278
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:38:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.  Gold. Wait a minute... he was ganked by 33 guys... he should just hire some mercs for that price, shouldn't him?  Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion.
This is not a practical person. |

Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
65
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:38:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link. The post links to a KM
Against forum rules. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |

Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
9
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:11:00 -
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The myth of invulnerability. No combination of either isk or SP or both grants you that in New Eden. I've actually heard "I thought I couldn't be killed!" whined in local through their tears.
Less than smart. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |

Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:16:00 -
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Undocks in 60 billion ship and gets ganked. ... ... ... ... Buys another one.  |

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
90
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:28:00 -
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ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them? Return varied color to Gallente ships! not everything looks good in DARK GREEN! |

Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
238
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:35:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link. The post links to a KM Against forum rules.
Dont apply to be a forum mod, your obviously bad at it "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Mr Pragmatic
631
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:40:00 -
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That's so raven. Gäó Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1908
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:45:00 -
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Eraza wrote:ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them?
DA FIAPOWAHHHH Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13489
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:49:00 -
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My Raven was equipped with the following...
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Zappity
Kurved Space
346
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:54:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link. The post links to a KM Against forum rules.
Well there are kill mails here too: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=252
You should probably report me now.
Haha, 60b. The mind boggles... Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
782
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:04:00 -
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Much more stylish than just biomassing character with assets before leaving the game. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1738
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:05:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.  Gold. Wait a minute... he was ganked by 33 guys... he should just hire some mercs for that price, shouldn't him?  Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion. This is not a practical person.
Just made some maths... @550 million per PLEX, we're talking about spending the equivalent to 1,600 euros in a ship + 900 in bounties. Kinda outrageous for some space pixels.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3248
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:08:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Eraza wrote:ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them? DA FIAPOWAHHHH Also MOAR OFFICUR |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
563
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:59:00 -
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same ship
Posted earlier |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1741
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Posted - 2013.09.07 12:50:00 -
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Always title your threads clearly. Mine is longer nao.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:00:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Wow....whatta sissy loser...I bet you tattled on the other kids to your mommie daily...
Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
MIS Auxiliaries Kadeshians
30
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:19:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:The story at themittani.com: http://themittani.com/news/60-billion-isk-raven-down-gankers-rejoiceHoly mother of God. How can anyone fly a ship worth 60 billion?  I'm a full time devoted carebear, and I've heard enough horror stories to know that bling ships are walking dead ships. But that Navy Raven makes the average bling look cheap. Gankers estimate loss in ~60 billion, killmail estimates it in 44 billion. In one hand I feel bad for the guy (you must really be very carebear to buy almost the best possible tank) but on the other hand... he should had known better. All what his tank needed to die were numbers. Auntie Ish advice to carebears: don't fly bling ships. Seriously. Violet = poo.  Reported for posting kill mail.
I've seen you say this to a few threads that had a themittanidotcom link. The problem is that there have been tons and tons of themittanidotcom links that link to killmails on the forums (whoa . . . linkception), and yet I've only seen you around to 'report' articles that link to the officer fit navy raven. Something tells me that you are either:
1) An alt of the poor idiot who decided to fly a bling ship. 2) A friend of the poor idiot who decided to fly a bling ship. or 3) A person who gave the poor idiot who decided to fly a bling ship ISKies.
With the way your acting the only thing I have to say is CoD is adda way --> Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |

Dyvim Slorm
Dronetech Prime
155
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:51:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.  Gold. Wait a minute... he was ganked by 33 guys... he should just hire some mercs for that price, shouldn't him? 
At 33Bil he could've bought a merc corp  |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16348
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:46:00 -
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Dyvim Slorm wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:The Article wrote:So far his only rebuttal as been to give us all 1bil bounties.  Gold. Wait a minute... he was ganked by 33 guys... he should just hire some mercs for that price, shouldn't him?  At 33Bil he could've bought a merc corp  Don't be silly. At 33bil, he would only have been able to fit at most two battleships GÇö clearly not enough for merc work.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
27
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:58:00 -
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I Could buy one every 10 months 
but i am guessing genius didn't have over 112m sp to back it up....ROFL |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
558
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:03:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Auntie Ish advice to carebears: don't fly bling ships. Seriously. Purple = poo. 
Well don't fly them in highsec where anybody can get close to you easily.
In nullsec/WH's you can fly bling ships with near immunity. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
2251
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:18:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Holy mother of God. How can anyone fly a ship worth 60 billion? 
Probably for the same reasons people are campaigning to get CCP wasting money on WIS so they can show off their spacebarbie dresses costing as much as a said ship in a space MMO.
You know... morons. You know... morons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4327
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:48:00 -
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highsec is too dangerous, needs a buff There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Bane Veradun
Failcascade Imminent
27
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:13:00 -
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Only a fool believes in the security of hisec. I-áam you. I am the madness that lurks within you all, begging to be free at every moment in your deepest animal mind. I am what you hide from in your beds every night.-á I am what you sedate into silence and paralysis when you go to the nocturnal haven where I cannot tread. |

Addavar Thearox
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:24:00 -
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Some 400 mil dual boxing battleship setups can rake in as much as 100mill an hour on level 4s. This is pure darwinism at its finest. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
800
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:48:00 -
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In fairness, nowhere is safe if you fly a 60bil Navy Raven. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4333
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:55:00 -
[34] - Quote
Highsec clearly needs to be made safer, or missions done by 60bil isk ravens need to be buffed to compensate the pilots for their risk There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Highsec clearly needs to be made safer, or missions done by 60bil isk ravens need to be buffed to compensate the pilots for their risk Any non-cap ship worth over 10 Billion ISK shoud be automatically invulnerable. After all it's only fair....
Heh..heh heh...HA HA HA HA HA HA HA , sometimes I'm so funny... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |

Abdullah Bahdoon
Somali Initiative for Dialogue and Posting
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:11:00 -
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This is not fair ! Officer spawns happen more often in highsec than in nullsec. |

Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:25:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Just made some maths... @550 million per PLEX, we're talking about spending the equivalent to 1,600 euros in a ship + 900 in bounties. Kinda outrageous for some space pixels. 
Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK.
In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels?
Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought..
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13512
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:50:00 -
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Ihazcheez Hashur wrote: Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK.
In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels?
Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought..
If a bank did that, said carebear would never see it, the money would just disappear into "fees".
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Lyttle Spacedust
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.08 12:54:00 -
[39] - Quote
OK, so what's the point of having theseships if you cant fly it and show it off in hi-sec? |

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
85
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:07:00 -
[40] - Quote
Ohishi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ohishi wrote:Reported for posting kill mail. Reported for stupidity. Learn a difference between article and killmail link. The post links to a KM Against forum rules.
Good thing you quoted it and now posted it yourself...
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Alara IonStorm
5307
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Posted - 2013.09.08 13:10:00 -
[41] - Quote
Lyttle Spacedust wrote:OK, so what's the point of having theseships if you cant fly it and show it off in hi-sec? Modules give you an advantage in a task, it is up to you to weigh whether the risk of that advantage is worth the reward of increased performance. When you over bling a ship to the point where it gives no meaningful advantage in such task such as over stacking or over active tanking then you create risk without reward. To put it another way having an over swollen **** is useless if you can't **** her with it.
These modules are meant to be used, if you have over expensive bling you don't need, leave it in the hanger. Take screen caps to show it off safely, you can peacock it all you want in space, just don't be surprised when a hunter shoots and stuffs your bird. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4340
|
Posted - 2013.09.08 19:29:00 -
[42] - Quote
Alara IonStorm wrote:To put it another way having an over swollen **** is useless if you can't **** her with it.
you can peacock it all you want in space, just don't be surprised when a hunter shoots and stuffs your bird. To put it another way, the over swollen **** is chopped off There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Maliandra
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.09.15 07:25:00 -
[43] - Quote
Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Just made some maths... @550 million per PLEX, we're talking about spending the equivalent to 1,600 euros in a ship + 900 in bounties. Kinda outrageous for some space pixels.  Pertty much this. It's what happens when real life value can be calculated through what it'd cost to replace using an in game method of purchasing ISK. In this case, the guy was mugged of [if the quote is correct] 1,600 Euros. Ever heard the saying: dont fly what you can't afford to lose? Well, that goes for everyone -10 euros everytime you lose 300m isk. Can everyone afford to just throw 10 euros on pixels? Clearly a group of players, delighted in stripping this guy of 1600 euros. Wonder if they'd grin from ear to ear if a misc bank transaction took 35 euros of all party members involved and deposited it back to said carebear.. interesting thought.. It doesn't quite work like that though, considering I can "make" $20 by going into hi-sec with some alts and AFK mining while I do house chores for the day.
|

John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
209
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 08:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
Alara IonStorm wrote:Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion.
Except the SNI is nowhere near as efficient as the RNI for Lvl 4 PVE.
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3401
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 08:54:00 -
[45] - Quote
The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.
We are the players.
So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.
It's dumb all around.
Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?
So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.
Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.
Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed. |

Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1515
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 10:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
I have to say, makes me smile that I know and went to school with 2 of the guys that pulled that off. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
171
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Posted - 2013.09.15 12:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
Herzog - absolutely agree - we the players made that ship what it was and now we are circle-jerking it's demise. This was one of the reasons I wrote the post that included this mittani redirect under the heading What are your Eve goals - and I still subscribe to the fact that it is overkill, but what do you spend your in-game money on? I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |

baltec1
Bat Country
8003
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 13:08:00 -
[48] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.
We are the players.
So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.
It's dumb all around.
Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?
So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.
Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.
Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed.
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
the only safe place is nullsec, invunerable stations and stuff... pewww, its more risk shooting an asteroid in highsec ... |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13820
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 15:09:00 -
[50] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the only safe place is nullsec, invunerable stations and stuff... pewww, its more risk shooting an asteroid in highsec Harry Forever, bringing danger to nullsec erryday**
**Cynofrigs and Indys only, exclusions may apply. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
Article 8 is ToSh |

Caliph Muhammed
Perkone Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:15:00 -
[51] - Quote
A lot of jelly and butthurt in this thread. He bought the ship to use it and unlike 99% here can afford to do so. |

Calel
S.H.I.E.L.D Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13820
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 15:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. WatGäó
I'm not sure if you're serious, or if you're even playing the same game as the rest of us. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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BLACK-STAR
495
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:24:00 -
[54] - Quote
Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. That's possibly the dumbest thing I ever read today. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1416
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:32:00 -
[55] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?
Isn't it great?
Also, he indicates that 'we the players' influence that market. Personally, I've never done any trade in those sorts of bling modules, so I've never had any influence whatsoever on their prices. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1416
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:33:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:Calel wrote:Most likely another 3 or 4 accounts cancelled due to high sec ganking which translates to less bling in the CCP wallet. I wonder how much high sec ganking is really costing CCP and the game in general. That's possibly the dumbest thing I ever read today.
Day's just getting started. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:56:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:baltec1 wrote:
A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?
Isn't it great? Also, he indicates that 'we the players' influence that market. Personally, I've never done any trade in those sorts of bling modules, so I've never had any influence whatsoever on their prices. Sigh, I mean at least when Boat lost a titan it was exciting, you know... Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.
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Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:21:00 -
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some people have way of tracking people in came like a GPS. someone has a program that tells them what ship is where and fitted with what . i knew of a site that can track players in game 2 years ago..I stop playing and now i don't remember what that site was. |

Alara IonStorm
5330
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:38:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Should went out the window when he hopped in a 44 billion ISK sh*tfit to do missions that is about as efficient as my 0.55 billion ISK Navy Scorpion. Except the SNI is nowhere near as efficient as the RNI for Lvl 4 PVE. And? Doesn't make My Navy Scorp less efficient then That 44 billion ISK sh*t fit[, which was the only thing I was comparing, not the hulls themselves.
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Fighter Maurset
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:18:00 -
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Just have to ask here...
Apparently the podded fella can afford to loose his ship, since he placed a 1 billion bounty on each of the (32?) players involved in ganking him. Does this not sum up to a value of 160 billion in bounty damage? I would say this gives the podded fella the final laugh...
If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2780
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:26:00 -
[61] - Quote
I've seen some stupid come out in some threads, but gawd dayuum, I've only read half the posts in this one so far and It make me wanna burn my humanity membership card. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13824
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:43:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I've seen some stupid come out in some threads, but gawd dayuum, I've only read half the posts in this one so far and It make me wanna burn my humanity membership card.
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Tanthalassa
State War Academy Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:12:00 -
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What's the point in running lvl 4 missions in these expensive fits anyways? Could simply multibox a few characters in junky fits, that could be more effective.
I guess some people cannot resist since they love those "purples." |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20849
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:20:00 -
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First thought: Autsch... Second thought: Seriously?  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Ciyrine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:56:00 -
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Lets pretend ur a big industrialist the multi boxes a mining fleet. Or make billions in the market. Ur wallet has 900 bil and u stopped really trying to make more because whats the point. Or hes too busy running his law firm in RL to play more than an hour or two a day.
Hes got the money to throw away and it has little meaning to him. U guys will cry about 60mil loss but its only a small nuisance to him
This player may not enjoy more efficiently running 2 bs missions. He enjoys having the most bling ship he can without hassle of multi boxing. U guys think hes a stupid eve player but hes already won eve or life and now hes playing pixel ships the way he wants not the way the forums say he should
Tldr : get some persective ur perception of eve is not everyones |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
275
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:45:00 -
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Loot fairy said yes for once. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4331
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:02:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:A lot of jelly and butthurt in this thread. He bought the ship to use it and unlike 99% here can afford to do so.
Well I am sure several of us can buy more than one of those ships. Does not mean we find it useful or even smart  Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
820
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:03:00 -
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Eraza wrote:ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them?
I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers ..... deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3402
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only reason why that Raven cost 60 bil was because of what players will pay for those modules.
We are the players.
So we are the ones responsible for that Raven costing that much.
It's dumb all around.
Now the question I think of is, were there so much intended botting and nullsec ratting in carriers expected that such a ship would be possible?
So that a ship, the hull costing less than 1 billion, can be equipped to the level of costing 60 billion, is an indication that nullsec may be in need of a loot nerf.
Strangely enough, too much ISK in the game creates the potential for these modules to cost so much, but these modules create the incentive to have so much ISK in the first place.
Thus I would also suspect that being able to NOT engage the Sansha Mothership in highsec incursions and just grind away should also be addressed. A high sec mission runner earns enough isk to slap a titans worth of isk into a raven and you demand null be nerfed?
I demand nothing.
I just can't help but notice that this wellspring from which all that is wrong with the game (AKA "highsec") is what makes nullsec so profitable to be in.
It's a kind of symbiosis that has developed.
What do people do in highsec? They make free easy ISK running incursions (and milking them) or missions. What do they do with that money? They buy stuff that comes from nullsec. From who? People who think highsec is all about carbears and earning ISK and want to go to nullsec because they are afraid someone in the forums will have a bad opinion of them.
What do they do out in nullsec? Farm. Just like they did in highsec. Only now they have the Nullsec Leet Card ("Never post in the forums without it") and can't be called a carebear in the forums.
So they farm these modules that are worth these heinous amounts of ISK and sell them to.....
people in highsec who run incursions and or missions.
If I were to really be demanding, it would be that people shut their pie holes long enough to realize the contradictions in their little dogmatic bubbles.
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
844
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:37:00 -
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... rabble, rabble.

Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.09.16 05:27:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Eraza wrote:ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them? I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers ..... deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough Top deadspace stuff is standard on supercarriers, but officer stuff is pretty much titans. Or mission-running ships in highsec, apparently.
I don't think purple weapons are worthwhile over T2 for almost all applications, since that prevents you from using T2 ammo, and getting bonuses from the X Specialization skill.
CFC fits for capitals are usually T2, though some faction mods are recommended for some ships (check the lossmails, some caps will have faction modules). We've seen some factioned-up PL carriers though. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications" |

Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.09.16 05:29:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ciyrine wrote:Lets pretend ur a big industrialist the multi boxes a mining fleet. Or make billions in the market. Ur wallet has 900 bil and u stopped really trying to make more because whats the point. Or hes too busy running his law firm in RL to play more than an hour or two a day.
Hes got the money to throw away and it has little meaning to him. U guys will cry about 60mil loss but its only a small nuisance to him
This player may not enjoy more efficiently running 2 bs missions. He enjoys having the most bling ship he can without hassle of multi boxing. U guys think hes a stupid eve player but hes already won eve or life and now hes playing pixel ships the way he wants not the way the forums say he should
Tldr : get some persective ur perception of eve is not everyones He should be protected more by ccp's npcs and game mechanics. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications" |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
419
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Posted - 2013.09.16 06:32:00 -
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It cost 60 bil and do 900 dps...
Eos does more than that...EOS!! http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1858
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Posted - 2013.09.16 06:55:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:It cost 60 bil and do 900 dps...
Eos does more than that...EOS!!
But, 2070 DPS tank... The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4333
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:09:00 -
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Alavaria wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Eraza wrote:ok, is there any reason to ever use those "purple" mods?, well, the med and low slot ones go well with capital ships, but those tobias and estamels launchers?
just, fit one, and you are asking to be ganked is there any legit, non-stupid use for them? I thought they were only really used by the pilots of supers ..... deadspace & regular faction mods I can understand on mission or normal pvp boats if you feel space-rich enough Top deadspace stuff is standard on supercarriers, but officer stuff is pretty much titans. Or mission-running ships in highsec, apparently. I don't think purple weapons are worthwhile over T2 for almost all applications, since that prevents you from using T2 ammo, and getting bonuses from the X Specialization skill.
Depends on how smart is the guy who decides what to buy.
I have several deadspace shield boosters on several ships (and much more). I could buy the 1.5B ones or 200M ones that require a tiny CPU more, with the same huge other stats. I went for the latter, nobody is going to gank a ship with a 200M shield booster, dread guristas other stuff worth 50M instead of the 400M perfectly identical Caldari Navy stuff and so on.
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Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:18:00 -
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Using an X-type hardener is top end. A b-type is much cheaper Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications" |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
10072
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Posted - 2013.09.16 10:46:00 -
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March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
751
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Posted - 2013.09.16 11:19:00 -
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