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Luance DeAngeluotti
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:11:00 -
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Aegis Militia declared war because Coreli attacked Amarr paramilitaries.
Regarding this I would like to make the following statement.
Only Coreli and NOT The Cyrene Initiative attacked Amarr forces because I urged them to do so.
I have a very personal interest in recovering a cure for Vitoc based on the research by the late Dr. Ullia Hnolku. So I engineered several situations where my 'corpmates' did have no other choice but to engage Amarr (and also Caldari) forces. The last attack of Coreli against a convoy of Amarr paramilitaries was led by my sister Seraphin. She thought she could help me get out of my prison in Amarr space and was fortified in her belief by this communication that she received:
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2005.12.08 03:02 You do not know me, but I understand that you have some cause for a grievance against the paramilitary organisation known as the First Praetorian Guard. With this in mind, I have some information that may be of interest to you. 1PG have been contracted to provide security for a cargo shipment from Amarr space to the Federation. An Ammatar with a chequered employment record has been contracted to ship goods to Gallente territory, and security is being provided by loyalist paramilitaries - I suspect that that there could even be some kind of plot against the Federation. Intercepting the convoy could well confirm or allay such suspicions. The shipment is due to depart at around 19:00 (Eve Standard Time) on the 11th December, 107. It is my intention to try and follow the convoy personally and maybe see what it is carrying. It would be terrible if an accident was to befall it in the pirate-infested low security space though, wouldn't it? Sincerely, Hethiba Jemah
A communication from a person afterwards claiming to be the victim I might add.
I now have secured all data concerning the research for the vitoc cure from Coreli laboratories.
I will try to finish the research alone with the help of Gallente and Caldari scientists. I will start my own corporation to do this.
But my hate for certain factions within the Amarr is burning deep. They are responsible for the death of my sister and me loosing almost two weeks of my memory.
I will avenge the death of Seraphin. I will find out if the 1st Praetorian Guard really held me hostage for two weeks. I will pursue every Amarr threatening the Gallente way of life. I will find a cure to vitoc and make it available to the Minmatar Republic. It is me that you should wage war against, I am your problem....
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.01.08 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 08/01/2006 13:30:40 I will turn my back on the Gallente Federation and Minmatar Republic. My hopes and dreams are to see the better for both, but I will no longer fight for either one of them.
I've seen the Minmatar heart grow small towards the Gallente in their ongoing struggle and bloodshed against the Amarr. Together with the recent betrayals within the Coreli Corporation I no longer have the energy or spirit to fight for either one of them.
However you are truly a loyal Gallente citizen Luance and I hope that I may consider you a friend and as such you can count on my support if I am able to provide it.
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Kaeleron
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Posted - 2006.01.08 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Luance DeAngeluotti Aegis Militia declared war because Coreli attacked Amarr paramilitaries.
Regarding this I would like to make the following statement.
Only Coreli and NOT The Cyrene Initiative attacked Amarr forces because I urged them to do so . . . It is me that you should wage war against, I am your problem....
Sometimes the actions of one cost more to all than one would hope. An alliance pledges to strive or fall together. It seems Cyrene is going to have to show their true mettle.
All that is essential for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. |

Nooey
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Posted - 2006.01.08 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeleron Sometimes the actions of one cost more to all than one would hope. An alliance pledges to strive or fall together. It seems Cyrene is going to have to show their true mettle.
That's all well and good Kaeleron, but Coreli, and Coreli only, has started a war and fled on Day 1.
I am told that nobody else within The Cyrene Initiative was even made aware of Coreli's actions.
You're indeed right an Alliance pledges to fall or strive together, it seems the Executor Corp has decided to abandon such a pledge, and has run off with their tail between their legs to go become Serpentis minions.
I wish the remaining people within the Alliance all the best with cleaning up the atrocious mess their so called Exector has left them.
Disgustingly weak character shown by Coreli, most notably their CEO.
But not exactly surprising.
I'll be interested in whether Aegis Militia pursues the real culprits here, or blindly lashes out at those whose only guilt is association.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.01.08 18:31:00 -
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As the pressure of a looming war increases, the Gallente corporations already begin to fall apart, and alliances shatter.
How predictable.
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Callistus
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Posted - 2006.01.08 19:23:00 -
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The current Coreli situation has been weeks in the planning. The decision by the Aegis Militia to declare war on the Cyrene Initiative is simply bad timing.
However Mr Nooey rightly points out that it was actions taken by Coreli, and Coreli only, which AM have used to justify this war. Yet with Coreli no longer a member of the Initiative the Aegis Militia continues its attacks upon them.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.01.08 21:10:00 -
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The only act of friendship that those betrayers showed us on the end was in accepting any ęsurrenderĘ treaties that AM made (such as the 1000 slaves). AM however are only looking for a war so they continued to declare on the alliance anyways, my bet is that they moved their forces weeks in advance and that peace was never an option. AM set out for war and nothing not even surrendering under terms seems to make them stop this war.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.08 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Callistus The current Coreli situation has been weeks in the planning. The decision by the Aegis Militia to declare war on the Cyrene Initiative is simply bad timing.
Several of us have also been pointing out your CEO's relations with the Federation's largest active enemy, and many of your followers ignored it due to powerful Federation brainwashing.
The Federation can't even trust its own citizens, and these actions take place so easily it seems. Perhaps the Intakis who form their own State won't have to worry about the Gallente attempting to oppress them, because the Federation is going to crumble before long at this rate.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.08 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Several of us have also been pointing out your CEO's relations with the Federation's largest active enemy, and many of your followers ignored it due to powerful Federation brainwashing.
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.01.08 21:56:00 -
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You reap what you sow. Maybe being more active in what the head was doing would have helped the hands. ------------------
CEO of TKI Public Channel: TKI-Net
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.08 22:10:00 -
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I find this Funny as this war has nothing to do with us attacking Amarr forces but more on the soul fact that AM wants a fight beacuse they are bored. Am Are Griefer Pirates at heart hiding behind a Vail Claming to be protecting the empire. And its also funny how many people AM have pushed into this war that never wanted it.
[ 2006.01.08 20:25:56 ] Petitioner ofAM > anyways, not everyone in AM is supporting this, and quite a few of us aren't of the opinion that attacking CYI was even a reasonable move to begin with [ 2006.01.08 20:26:02 ] Feenixx > id resect even more if i could get an answer to y some one claiming to protect the empire would run a war against another alliance that has the same gold [ 2006.01.08 20:26:06 ] Feenixx > goals* [ 2006.01.08 20:26:27 ] Petitioner ofAM > this has barely anything to do with actual RP [ 2006.01.08 20:26:33 ] Feenixx > yes i know [ 2006.01.08 20:26:46 ] Feenixx > thus y im so agervated [ 2006.01.08 20:27:20 ] Petitioner ofAM > some members of AM have been planning this for a month or so, and did alot of prep work, anyways so when the war couldn't be justified there was some extreme conflict [ 2006.01.08 20:28:39 ] Petitioner ofAM > anyways, the general leadership has basically been forced to continue on with the war, even though im pretty sure they understand that there is no justifiable reason
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2006.01.08 23:35:00 -
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For the record:
"Petitioner ofAM" is not or ever have been speaking on behalf for AM in an official capacity.
I will investigate to the best of my abilities as to the true name behind the coward curtain above, but I suspect it is of "outside the alliance" origin, if it is found to be internal the offender will be taken care of. ___________________________
Aegis Militia Diplomatic Relations Officer C.E.O. of SHOD
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.08 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM. |

Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:08:51 how would you know if this "petitioner of AM" was trusted when they are saying exactly the opposite of the allaince?
it matters not anyway
I will have my boot on Cyrene leadership throat soon enough, you will be Reclaimed just like me and no petty forum smack will stop it.
you are just angry becuase you got dropped like a sac of rocks in luminair.
learn to fight, not Forum flame.
Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=242744 |

Lijah Valencourt
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lijah Valencourt on 09/01/2006 00:09:49 *Lijah yawns
Whatever Tomahawk. Coreli are in Curse, see you there. We were the ones who get your panties in a bunch were we not? Leave Cyrene alone 
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:11:54
Originally by: Lijah Valencourt Edited by: Lijah Valencourt on 09/01/2006 00:09:49 *Lijah yawns
Whatever Tomahawk. Coreli are in Curse, see you there. We were the ones who get your panties in a bunch were we not? Leave Cyrene alone 
yes you run away and then make threats...
first the non-traitors to Gallente die. then after they are Reclaimed maybe you. But keep running though, it makes me laugh.
Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=242744 |

Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:08:51 you are just angry becuase you got dropped like a sac of rocks in luminair. learn to fight, not Forum flame.
Ok see perfect example, your all proud that you were Camping the station with 5 pilots and took town a mighty tristen! What an accomplishment! I know them Tristen's can really be hard to kill. You know with all that armor they have. |

Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Feenixx
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:08:51 you are just angry becuase you got dropped like a sac of rocks in luminair. learn to fight, not Forum flame.
Ok see perfect example, your all proud that you were Camping the station with 5 pilots and took town a mighty tristen! What an accomplishment! I know them Tristen's can really be hard to kill. You know with all that armor they have.
i agree actually, but you are the one who got angry about it not us.
there were seven of you hiding from our five. you did somthing stupid and I got to blow your smart mouth up. kudos to me but don't get all excited over a tristan and make these forum lies. it is petulant.
Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=242744 |

Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Feenixx Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM.
of course, I am also the new emperor of Amarr 
Whether real or imaginary the log carries no weight in its current state and bears no merit here in this arena. Any further discussion on this log or the coward behind it can be brought to myself, Graelyn, or the Executor of the Alliance, Mirial via private chat. ___________________________
Aegis Militia Diplomatic Relations Officer C.E.O. of SHOD
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Feenixx
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:08:51 you are just angry becuase you got dropped like a sac of rocks in luminair. learn to fight, not Forum flame.
Ok see perfect example, your all proud that you were Camping the station with 5 pilots and took town a mighty tristen! What an accomplishment! I know them Tristen's can really be hard to kill. You know with all that armor they have.
i agree actually, but you are the one who got angry about it not us.
there were seven of you hiding from our five. you did somthing stupid and I got to blow your smart mouth up. kudos to me but don't get all excited over a tristan and make these forum lies. it is petulant.
Lies why would i lie? Im not mad cus i lost a tristen lol. Silly Fool don't let your pride blind you from the truth. I didnt get mad beacuse i lost a tristen i was upset that you took so long to target me after i undocked. Its a tristen 200k is easy to make for a replacement. I think you were more angry witht he fact that when i was in Alentene last ngiht none of you could catch my Mighty Tristen, 1 lock in 2 hrs isnt a bas start tho.
GL to you tho in your future pirating venues |
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Artemis
Originally by: Feenixx Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM.
of course, I am also the new emperor of Amarr 
Whether real or imaginary the log carries no weight in its current state and bears no merit here in this arena. Any further discussion on this log or the coward behind it can be brought to myself, Graelyn, or the Executor of the Alliance, Mirial via private chat.
Im sorry but only me and one other know who gave this testament, And nither of us will speak his name aloud. |

Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:33:00 -
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Any further discussion on this log or the coward behind it can be brought to Lord Artemis, Graelyn, or the Executor of the Alliance, Mirial via private chat. |

Robet Katrix
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Feenixx
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Feenixx
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 09/01/2006 00:08:51 you are just angry becuase you got dropped like a sac of rocks in luminair. learn to fight, not Forum flame.
Ok see perfect example, your all proud that you were Camping the station with 5 pilots and took town a mighty tristen! What an accomplishment! I know them Tristen's can really be hard to kill. You know with all that armor they have.
i agree actually, but you are the one who got angry about it not us.
there were seven of you hiding from our five. you did somthing stupid and I got to blow your smart mouth up. kudos to me but don't get all excited over a tristan and make these forum lies. it is petulant.
Lies why would i lie? Im not mad cus i lost a tristen lol. Silly Fool don't let your pride blind you from the truth. I didnt get mad beacuse i lost a tristen i was upset that you took so long to target me after i undocked. Its a tristen 200k is easy to make for a replacement. I think you were more angry witht he fact that when i was in Alentene last ngiht none of you could catch my Mighty Tristen, 1 lock in 2 hrs isnt a bas start tho.
GL to you tho in your future pirating venues
In the end you DIED. and your POD, that died too
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Robet Katrix
In the end you DIED. and your POD, that died too
Um ok? Can i have another? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 00:59:00 -
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In other thoughts I wish you all well hunting with Cyrene, in 20 hrs I will we leaving Coreli to Further my self in other ways than piracy. As for AM goes you certainly have some nice pilots, but some of you could use a manners check. It was good fighting against you. I wish you well and safe flying. |

Aegis Stormborn
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Posted - 2006.01.09 01:22:00 -
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Luance DeAngeluotti,
It is an unfortunate circumstance we all find ourselves in. Though I've no sympathies for the Gallente Federation, it is obvious that subterfuge and blatant betrayal has led The Cyrene Initiative to such a pitiful circumstance. Coreli, by your own admittance has brought this about and yet it strikes me as odd that the shell that remains of The Cyrene Initiative is asking AM to pursue Coreli and you - your last "masterful" play?
The truth of the matter is - the demands enforced on the Cyrene Initiative have still not been met and the demands themselves are not strenuous by any stretch of imagination. Pride seems to be the largest interference to a peaceful conclusion and I cannot help but wonder why Coreli was allowed to leave The Cyrene Initiative in such an awful state? If the Initiative had any pride they let it leave with the last untouched Coreli hauler - well, the ones that we hadn't already targeted and destroyed.
To the members of The Cyrene Initiative: Yours is the responsibility to atone for the sins of a cowardly corporation. I cannot speak for the Alliance, but I can firmly state that piracy conducted by any corporation is dealt with very swiftly when we have the opportunity of executing judgment for their crimes. Should I cross the Coreli let us both pray that justice provides a swift reward to the betrayers and back-stabbers. May your meeting our demands be swift and may we soon be seeing eye-to-eye in the dealing with those who have damned you.
Aegis Stormborn
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Feenixx Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM.
You mean like how Coreli was a noble pro-Federation corporation?
Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
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Feenixx
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Posted - 2006.01.09 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Feenixx Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM.
You mean like how Coreli was a noble pro-Federation corporation?
1 word , What? |

Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.01.09 02:17:00 -
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This thread makes me despair for the Gallente 
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Oisin
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Posted - 2006.01.09 02:21:00 -
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Please excuse me if I fail to weep at this news. Coreli, in my opinion, has been a toxic and divisive influence in the Federation they claim to support. Now, perhaps, we can begin working together to bring about true equality, respect, and comradeship between the races of the Federation - because without these things, the Federation's days are surely numbered.
As for Coreli's prospective move to Curse, all I can do is wish your pilots and crews the best of luck. Down there, you'll need all the good fortune you can get.
Placid Reborn is Recruiting
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