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Garreck	Posted - 2006.01.09 05:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Feenixx Lies why would i lie? Im not mad cus i lost a tristen lol. Silly Fool don't let your pride blind you from the truth. I didnt get mad beacuse i lost a tristen i was upset that you took so long to target me after i undocked. Its a tristen 200k is easy to make for a replacement. I think you were more angry witht he fact that when i was in Alentene last ngiht none of you could catch my Mighty Tristen, 1 lock in 2 hrs isnt a bas start tho. GL to you tho in your future pirating venues Cripes a'mighty...what's all this hub-bub about a tristan? And why does the loss of one frigate and the time it takes to lock/kill one become the central theme for this conflict? I'm not privy to the details of Aegis Militia's objectives here, but if you don't want to lose more tristans (or get angry because it takes Militia ships so long to lock yours) then yield to the terms (which, I understand, are reasonable.) If you don't mind losing tristans or getting your blood-pressure up over lock-times...then continue the fight. But good Lord, don't flood the FTL waves with the rest of this silliness. Garreck Aku. Soku. Zan.
Feenixx	Posted - 2006.01.09 06:51:00 - [32] Im not getting my blood pressure up, its a tristen i dont really care too much. But i like what you said :) siliness ahoy!
Crausaum	Posted - 2006.01.09 07:09:00 - [33] Edited by: Crausaum on 09/01/2006 07:14:09 Greetings ladies and gentlemen. I doubt that many of you know me or have even seen me in passing but I am the new executor of The Cyrene Initiative and I have decided to come forward with some hard facts from Cyrene itself for you all to mull over. The Coreli Corporation - Even inside The Cyrene Initiative it is debated if their departure at the start of the war was just an unpleasant circumstance or intentional. For the most part their members left on good terms as a good portion of Coreli pilots seem to have been unaware of their corporations intentions. The alliance Senate was never given any hint that there was a problem with Aegis Militia despite the fact that we have a Senate for diplomatic issues. We found out about AM via a Concord issued war declaration letter that showed up in our inboxes along with a letter about the Coreli corporation's imminent departure. Cyrene Now - At present Cyrene has 45 pilots, many with little to no practical combat experience. However these remaining pilots are proving themselves dedicated by merely staying with the alliance though these troubled times and I salute them for it. Once the war is over over we will rebuild and make sure to avoid the errors that lead to us losing 3/4 of the alliance pilots in one swift blow. The War - We're outnumbered 5 to 1 and most of our pilots lack expierience. There is going to be no war, just a lot of boredom while we make AM spend hours (if not days) to get it's kills. Maybe we'll even get lucky and take one of them out at some point. Aegis Malitia - From memory; AM demanded that we renounce all ties with Minmatar terrorists and that we trade them 1000 slaves that they would pay for, to show our support of slavery. As we have no ties with Matari terrorists we found the first demand a little hard to satisfy but were informed that we could also renounce any future support of Matari terrorists. We refused on principle, why should we make a declaration whenever some consortium of thugs decides to declare war on us? On the issue of slavery we neither support it nor actively fight it. We simply respect Federation laws wherever we travel and trading a thousand human live to save our skins is a line we will not cross. AM has at times stated that we were responsible for the use of Insorium on numerous Amarr worlds but the last time I check Cyrene's membership rosters we seem to lack any Blood Raiders. And on a final note could someone please tell what Aegis Militia pilots mean when they say they are going to "Reclaim" me? I am aware of the historical Reclaiming of the Amarr empire but I have been unable to find how these pilots would do such a thing to me. Perhaps I am just overlooking the required forms my local Concord station? Until such time as I can be sure of their intentions I shall simply instruct my pod's translation software to translate it to "Yarrr! We're going to BBQ you!!1" as this seems to much more in standing with the thought the AM pilots are trying to convey. -Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.01.09 08:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Feenixx Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Feenixx Edited by: Feenixx on 08/01/2006 23:39:33 for anonymity sake this pilot chose to talk to me, thus the name. But this person is a trusted source from within AM. You mean like how Coreli was a noble pro-Federation corporation? 1 word , What? You say the source is a trusted person within AM, and I'm saying Coreli was a noble pro-Federation corporation. I'm making fun of you because my comment about Coreli being noble OR pro-federation is completely bogus, thus, I am saying your 'source' is bogus. ((maybe less people use my reponse than I thought, I know others in my area have responded to what they find bogus with something bogus, I can't imagine it's something regional, like the word gumband or yinz.)) Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
Aaeandar Vienne	Posted - 2006.01.09 08:10:00 - [35] Facts stated in this thread: Coreli admits to aiding minmatar terrorists. Coreli was the executor corp in CYI. To say that CYI has never aided Minmatar terrorists is a lie, as Coreli has stated repeatedly that they have. Each member of an alliance is accountable for the actions of all other members. This is what makes an alliance, an alliance. The reclaiming begins with Amarr!
Luance DeAngeluotti	Posted - 2006.01.09 08:31:00 - [36] Edited by: Luance DeAngeluotti on 09/01/2006 08:32:31 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine This thread makes me despair for the Gallente Yeah, me too. I am very sad that things took this turn. ((For those who are interested in what is going on from an ooc pov read these threads: Fist contact AM to Coreli My try to open channels My last statement ))
Luance DeAngeluotti	Posted - 2006.01.09 08:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Aaeandar Vienne Facts stated in this thread: Coreli admits to aiding minmatar terrorists. Coreli was the executor corp in CYI. To say that CYI has never aided Minmatar terrorists is a lie, as Coreli has stated repeatedly that they have. Each member of an alliance is accountable for the actions of all other members. This is what makes an alliance, an alliance. Sadly this logic sounds true. Sorry friends in the CYI. I was trying to take the heat for the actions I made. I failed. I will now go into hiding and try to finish the research on my own. Best wishes for you. May your hybrids always strike true and may Gallente technology prevail over Amarr faith.
Kodan Ajex	Posted - 2006.01.09 10:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine This thread makes me despair for the Gallente Agreed it makes me question my belief in the Gallente "The truest measure of a society is how it treats its elderly, its pets, and its prisoners."
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2006.01.09 11:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Crausaum trading a thousand human lives to save our skins is a line we will not cross You have my respect for this, it takes a brave man to stand by his morals in the face of violence. - - Just a simple Ultimate Undeniable Underdog.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.01.09 11:14:00 - [40] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 09/01/2006 11:17:00 Originally by: Aegis Stormborn I cannot help but wonder why Coreli was allowed to leave The Cyrene Initiative in such an awful state? What makes you think they ever had any input on the matter? Originally by: Aegis Stormborn May your meeting our demands be swift and may we soon be seeing eye-to-eye in the dealing with those who have damned you. Coreli offered you your slaves, you refused, now the option is open again? Desperatly looking for a reason huh? Originally by: Aaeandar Vienne Coreli admits to aiding minmatar terrorists. Actually we tried to retrieve the formula from the Minmatar, which most likely would have either been developed into a bioweapon or an awfully expensive cure to vitoc. Then i again, the bioweapon would only be useful against those that holds slaves which is currently just the Amarrian Empire, the Khanid Kingdom and possibly the Caldari state in the future. -------------

Lord Elric	Posted - 2006.01.09 11:41:00 - [41] Crausaum good luck old friend I hope all gose well for you. "Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary." -Special Operations Service requisition form-
Brutal Butcher	Posted - 2006.01.09 12:05:00 - [42] Edited by: Brutal Butcher on 09/01/2006 12:06:11 Originally by: Crausaum Edited by: Crausaum on 09/01/2006 07:27:02trading a thousand human lives to save our skins is a line we will not cross. humans? its not because they got hands and feet that they are humans... i mean, comon,... monkeys have hands and feet too and they arent human neither.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.01.09 14:48:00 - [43] Originally by: Brutal Butcher Originally by: Crausaum trading a thousand human lives to save our skins is a line we will not cross. humans? its not because they got hands and feet that they are humans... i mean, comon,... monkeys have hands and feet too and they arent human neither. The fact that one of them could impregnate your daughter DOES make them human. Your mistake is in attributing far, far too much merit on the basis of humanity alone. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Brutal Butcher	Posted - 2006.01.09 15:14:00 - [44] my apologies. sometimes my racial jokes are a bit too rude for some people
Soratah	Posted - 2006.01.09 16:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Originally by: Crausaum trading a thousand human lives to save our skins is a line we will not cross You have my respect for this, it takes a brave man to stand by his morals in the face of violence. You just have words for them Khaldorn? No pilots or soldiers to fill their ranks, no ships to protect their skies from holy pillars of fire? For that I would call aid, but they're like lost ship with trailing supporters all ragged and grey, and you yourself more begger-like than the rest. CYI have declared they will stick by their principles and remain defiant against us. They shall burn or capitulate the choices are simple. The fact they're here complaining about the injustice of it is laughable. Neither are the demands and expectations of AM unreasonable. Choice was made, die was cast we all live with the concequences. Regards
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2006.01.09 17:15:00 - [46] Originally by: Soratah You just have words for them Khaldorn? No pilots or soldiers to fill their ranks, no ships to protect their skies from holy pillars of fire? For that I would call aid, but they're like lost ship with trailing supporters all ragged and grey, and you yourself more begger-like than the rest. How many slavers burned at our hands while you sat and did nothing Soratah? Hyprocrit. I have no pilots to give them, for I command none. But I expect nothing more from a slaver. However, what crimes are these people guilty of in your eyes now that Corelli have left their ranks? - - The fire burns..
Soratah	Posted - 2006.01.09 17:31:00 - [47] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Originally by: Soratah You just have words for them Khaldorn? No pilots or soldiers to fill their ranks, no ships to protect their skies from holy pillars of fire? For that I would call aid, but they're like lost ship with trailing supporters all ragged and grey, and you yourself more begger-like than the rest. How many slavers burned at our hands while you sat and did nothing Soratah? Hyprocrit. I have no pilots to give them, for I command none. But I expect nothing more from a slaver. However, what crimes are these people guilty of in your eyes now that Corelli have left their ranks? Alas what a fool I was to not expect you to be reading the IGS post every minute of the day. Considering how I spent more hours in space fighting scum like you than you have had hot dinners means only one thing. That you are indulging in ANOTHER fallacious and illogical arguement. I really should stop overestimating you it's a habit of mine to believe that everyone is sentient. But alas.. As for your question, the alliance as it is stands and stood for the belief that support of the Matari republic is a noble cause and should be undertaken. Aegis is making an example of them. They have the choice to continue to exist as retainers to the empire, or to share the fate of the Matari terrorist groups. It's simple I will not comment further on this thread im needed in space hunting and killing enemies of the Empire. Regards Soratah
Aran Cole	Posted - 2006.01.09 18:58:00 - [48] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 09/01/2006 11:17:00 Originally by: Aegis Stormborn I cannot help but wonder why Coreli was allowed to leave The Cyrene Initiative in such an awful state? What makes you think they ever had any input on the matter? Originally by: Aegis Stormborn May your meeting our demands be swift and may we soon be seeing eye-to-eye in the dealing with those who have damned you. Coreli offered you your slaves, you refused, now the option is open again? Desperatly looking for a reason huh? Originally by: Aaeandar Vienne Coreli admits to aiding minmatar terrorists. Actually we tried to retrieve the formula from the Minmatar, which most likely would have either been developed into a bioweapon or an awfully expensive cure to vitoc. Then i again, the bioweapon would only be useful against those that holds slaves which is currently just the Amarrian Empire, the Khanid Kingdom and possibly the Caldari state in the future. Do you see that? That's my look of utter shock that someone as honest and trustworthy as the golden-tongued Joshua Foiritain would say something so utterly untrue. Someone catch me, I'm about to faint. _______________________
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.01.09 19:57:00 - [49] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino How many slavers burned at our hands while you sat and did nothing Soratah? Hyprocrit. I have no pilots to give them, for I command none. But I expect nothing more from a slaver. However, what crimes are these people guilty of in your eyes now that Corelli have left their ranks? I'd say they're guilty of the same crimes many groups the Ushra Khan attack... being connected to an enemy in some way. Granted, being part of the same alliance is a better connection than some of the "well you're caldari, you're allies with the amarr so you must support slavery" bull I've heard from some U'K members. Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
Mather Maelstrom	Posted - 2006.01.09 22:31:00 - [50] Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 09/01/2006 22:35:51 ((What feenixx did here was incorrect and I hope people can let that stuff go)) Though Josh is a filthy traitor I know those words are spoken true, so stop the AM propaganda wagon thereà I hope everyone recognises that from all parties hurt here, Luance and others like him (including me) have been hurt deeply. Our words are being spoken and they are used by to many to lightlyà I hope some feel ashamed about the course the communications have taken. To Malthros: You stay a smelly Caldari that works for CAIN, but I respect your wisdom and understanding that you have shown lately. Though not always correct there are many on Galnet that should take you as an example. To the part where you mentioned UÆK; I hardly recall ties with the UÆK unless you mean the cross-fire between Coreli and the UÆK when Coreli was fighting a war versus smugglers? This is not about the UÆK, this is about forcing to give up all connections with the Matari people in general. I can confirm that the State is supporting Slavery. Many Gallente have been given out missions where in our space the Amarr have set up large slave compounds that are being guarded by both Caldari and Amarr navy forces. As you are working for the Caldari Navy you are not aware of this. Being a Caldari does not make you a slaver though only if you work for and support the State you are contributing to slavery. I couldnÆt care less about that now though. In my time how often did I see support from the Minmatar and how often was it given? The Federation is putting resources in an everlasting election that should be used for its citizens. IÆm a pod pilot I will survive, how often did I not go into battle getting blown up loosing countless of crewman? who am I to judge? I no longer have the spirit to judge 'courses' being taken. In the end we al fight for power and wealthà ((I hope CCP can make a news post about current developments soonÖ, would be nice to know more about the Caldari-Amarr alliance my agents keep ranting on about.)) //No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\

Maggot	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:03:00 - [51] Mather Maelstrom, please tell me which UK member said Caldari are all supporters of slavery Given we have many caldari in our ranks I find that highly unlikely. Your anti U'K stance does make me wonder though if in fact you do support slavery.
Gorion Wassenar	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:13:00 - [52] Well, there was that time you attacked CAIN. That kinda sours relationships. ------------------ CEO of TKI Public Channel: TKI-Net http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=37594&TabID=333614
Mather Maelstrom	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:21:00 - [53] Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 09/01/2006 23:26:08 Maggot I am replying to Malthros who said: ôGranted, being part of the same alliance is a better connection than some of the "well you're caldari, you're allies with the amarr so you must support slavery" bull I've heard from some U'K members.ö You are mistaken by who is saying what I am afraid. In fact my comments on that part only seem to be in your favor if his claims are true. My only dispute with the UÆK is that during the war versus smugglers the UÆK have engaged Coreli forces, that at that time still served the Gallente Federation. I myself always believed in good bonds between the two were possible, as such I showed up at your Protest against the Republic concerning the Insorum Prototype. I like to add I was one of only ætwoÆ from Coreli that showed you that respect and clearly that has already been forgotten. //No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\
Justicia Universi	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:35:00 - [54] Congratulations to Aegis Militia, I am sure your attempts to destroy a Gallante Based RP Alliance will make you look like champions to your peers. I am sure the other Amarran RP Corp/ Alliances like CVA, 1PG, PIE and ISGD will wonder in awe at your brave Alliance with your actions in Gallante space. How tales of your courage and bravery will be told by generations of Amarrans to come. The Matari tremble at your prowess and skill destroying Tristans and new pilots with such hardened veterans. I salute you... Hard days lay ahead for Cyrene but we will endure and those whom are left will only be that much more committed to the cause.
Maggot	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:41:00 - [55] Edited by: Maggot on 09/01/2006 23:42:56 Mather Maelstrom, many apologies, I addressed the wrong person, I have amended my question. Too much pod duty has made my eyes tired. Time for a few hours rest I think.
Mather Maelstrom	Posted - 2006.01.09 23:48:00 - [56] I understand and already assumed it was most likely a mistake. No harm is done. ((for all readers please ignore the post from Justicia I can see that it is ooc, but the whole thing is quite an emotional thing and emotions get in the way of rationality. I have already contacted her with an eve-mail that if she wishes to express anti AM feelings it is better done IC to avoid further trash talk)) //No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\
Karl Mattar	Posted - 2006.01.10 00:39:00 - [57] To those Gallente who remain in the Cyrene Initiative, and now face the superior forces of the Aegis Milita, I express my condolences. I wish upon you the ability to grow a spine, and put up a good fight. There are few things less worthy than slaughtering a foe that won't even fight back. At least die on your feet, and not running and hiding in a hole, until that hole is made your grave. As far as the Coreli go, they are beneath contempt. They have betrayed their blood, and their Federation. One who turns his back on his homeland is shamed. On who does so on the eve of war, is vile to the extreme. You made promises to your people, and walked away. Coreli will forever be listed as unreliable, and even worse, unemployable. The Coreli epitomize the obvious result of egalitarianism. In your quest for equality, you have instilled the values of self-preservation over the duty to your homeland. Every man for himself, and not one for another. Like escape pods leaving a flaming ship, all of you fold when asked to put your own interests aside for the good of your Federation. In the end, I offer up the best wishes of a Patriot to the Aegis Militia. May your victory be swift, complete, and permanent. And may you find at least one foe in the Cyrene Initiative that is worthy of an honorable death.
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.01.10 02:45:00 - [58] Originally by: Karl Mattar To those Gallente who remain in the Cyrene Initiative, and now face the superior forces of the Aegis Milita, I express my condolences. I wish upon you the ability to grow a spine, and put up a good fight. There are few things less worthy than slaughtering a foe that won't even fight back. At least die on your feet, and not running and hiding in a hole, until that hole is made your grave. As far as the Coreli go, they are beneath contempt. They have betrayed their blood, and their Federation. One who turns his back on his homeland is shamed. On who does so on the eve of war, is vile to the extreme. You made promises to your people, and walked away. Coreli will forever be listed as unreliable, and even worse, unemployable. The Coreli epitomize the obvious result of egalitarianism. In your quest for equality, you have instilled the values of self-preservation over the duty to your homeland. Every man for himself, and not one for another. Like escape pods leaving a flaming ship, all of you fold when asked to put your own interests aside for the good of your Federation. In the end, I offer up the best wishes of a Patriot to the Aegis Militia. May your victory be swift, complete, and permanent. And may you find at least one foe in the Cyrene Initiative that is worthy of an honorable death. Very well said, and I second the notion. Good luck to AM, although I'm sure you won't need it. ----- All for the Good of Many Caldari Navy
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.01.10 03:31:00 - [59] Originally by: Maggot Your anti U'K stance does make me wonder though if in fact you do support slavery. You being terrorists and petty thieves who have stolen from the State in no way makes me support slavery. You attacking companies simply because they deal with slavers, or those attempting to recover property which is rightfully theirs, is another story. I do however, not support your terrorist organization. If you think that not supporting the U'K means supporting slavery, then you are a sad little man, but luckily, I know you don't actually have views which are that skewed... right? Originally by: Oveur I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.01.10 05:00:00 - [60] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 10/01/2006 05:02:36 Originally by: Mather Maelstrom To the part where you mentioned UÆK; I hardly recall ties with the UÆK unless you mean the cross-fire between Coreli and the UÆK when Coreli was fighting a war versus smugglers? This is not about the UÆK, this is about forcing to give up all connections with the Matari people in general. quite untrue we said you must have no ties to Minmatar Terrorists. Minmatar Terrorist do NOT comprise the sum total of my people. You can fight Terrorism and still communication, trade and such with Minmatar peoples. How insulting you automatically assume every Minmatar is a stinking Terrorist. Originally by: Karl Mattar In the end, I offer up the best wishes of a Patriot to the Aegis Militia. May your victory be swift, complete, and permanent. And may you find at least one foe in the Cyrene Initiative that is worthy of an honorable death. this has already happened, today. there are worthy members among Cyrene, worthy to be Reclaimed into the Empire for their valor. For that i salute them. please don't take the com-silence personaly, we don't chatter in local. Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=242744



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