Are we playing the same game or am I just smelling highsec carebear who got scammed?

So if ButthurtMcGee decides to report me for selling him 6 Tech moons that actually belonged to Evoke 2 years ago am I going to get banned?

"It's only there to catch goonies"

"grr goonies. ok"

Here's some other humor for this. According to the definition given, strictly by the rules, anyone claiming to have a mining permit from the New Order is misrepresenting themselves as a member of a group, if they don't actually have a permit. (We consider all valid permit holders a member of our highsec coalition).

Unfortunately, we were told we don't count as a "group" according to CCP definition. CFC though, is considered a "group" so anyone trying to pull the "join GoonSwarm" scam, be careful!

b. In-game names may not:
Impersonate or parody an NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members) for the purpose of misleading other players.

c. No player may use the character name of another player to falsely represent his or her identity. Player created corporation and alliance names also fall under this policy, as do names of any other in-game entities.

You aren't an evoke spy, are you

And here I thought that one was topless

So if ButthurtMcGee decides to report me for selling him 6 Tech moons that actually belonged to Evoke 2 years ago am I going to get banned?

And here I thought that one was topless

Also for the new players here, I would like to remind you that CCP tried to ban scamming in the past.

What you did there..I see it

Apparently. This ruling really does screw with a ton of scams in EVE.

I guess Mittens is gonna have to shut down his trusted third party escrow service.

So I noticed there was a small update to the EVE terms of service, noted here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-terms-of-service-update-1/

No comment thread was provided. This new "update" adds this:



This effectively bans most scamming and appears to be entirely unwarranted and an intrusion into the sandbox, made without comment or justification. Of course, this may be poorly worded and intended to address a specific problem, in which case I think a discussion of the subject would produce a much better result - after all, this will be cited by every scamee in a petition and if it doesn't mean what it says, some new GM will quickly make a mistake. As written, one of our members who scams someone with the time-honored recruitment scam will get petitioned when someone says that he wasn't authorized to represent Goonswarm.

If it does mean what it says - the GM team has decided to ban most scamming ("why yes, I'm a representative of NC. and can rent you Scalding Pass, pay no attention to the part of the game that tells you I'm in Goonwaffe") I'd like an explanation as to why such a massive intrusion into one of the core features of EVE was warranted. I mean, if you actually get scammed by someone claiming to represent one of the EVE [b]NPC Corporations[/u] you deserve everything that's coming to you.

This appears to be the GM team simply giving in to the masses of people who just spam unjustified petitions. I don't want to get ahead of the facts without a GM or CCP response, but this clearly warrants one.

Harsh..;-;

I didn't see it. But perhaps it's best that way.

I don't know about you, but I hear that goons use the mittani all the time.

I plan to use him as a third party when buying a supercap from my friend, in fact

OK, now here's my question. Since when has ISD been allowed to make interpretations of the EULA as CCPs agent? I know they ENFORCE the rules set down by CCP, but an ISD declaring "X is a real group protected under EULA" and "Y is not a real group" is a pretty big declaration for a player volunteer to make.


Catch the right ISD, and we can ~disband~ coalitions as needed, just by stating they don't fall under this EULA clause's protections.

Greetings,

Impersonation has been prohibited for a long time.

The EULA clearly states that:

GÇ£No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identityGÇ¥

A similar clause has been in the EVE Online Naming Policy for a good while:

GÇ£c. No player may use the character name of another player to falsely represent his or her identity. Player created corporation and alliance names also fall under this policy, as do names of any other in-game entities.GÇ¥

The TOS update is therefore nothing new, merely a clarification of what has been policy for ages.

Recruitment scams using your own corp/alliance are fine, claiming to be working on behalf of players/groups of players you're not affiliated with is considered impersonation and a violation of our policies.

Thanks for clarifying. Would you like to join Goonwaffe?

So I noticed there was a small update to the EVE terms of service, noted here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-terms-of-service-update-1/

No comment thread was provided. This new "update" adds this:



This effectively bans most scamming and appears to be entirely unwarranted and an intrusion into the sandbox, made without comment or justification. Of course, this may be poorly worded and intended to address a specific problem, in which case I think a discussion of the subject would produce a much better result - after all, this will be cited by every scamee in a petition and if it doesn't mean what it says, some new GM will quickly make a mistake. As written, one of our members who scams someone with the time-honored recruitment scam will get petitioned when someone says that he wasn't authorized to represent Goonswarm.

If it does mean what it says - the GM team has decided to ban most scamming ("why yes, I'm a representative of NC. and can rent you Scalding Pass, pay no attention to the part of the game that tells you I'm in Goonwaffe") I'd like an explanation as to why such a massive intrusion into one of the core features of EVE was warranted. I mean, if you actually get scammed by someone claiming to represent one of the EVE [b]NPC Corporations[/u] you deserve everything that's coming to you.

This appears to be the GM team simply giving in to the masses of people who just spam unjustified petitions. I don't want to get ahead of the facts without a GM or CCP response, but this clearly warrants one.

Greetings,

Impersonation has been prohibited for a long time.

The EULA clearly states that:

GÇ£No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identityGÇ¥

A similar clause has been in the EVE Online Naming Policy for a good while:

GÇ£c. No player may use the character name of another player to falsely represent his or her identity. Player created corporation and alliance names also fall under this policy, as do names of any other in-game entities.GÇ¥

The TOS update is therefore nothing new, merely a clarification of what has been policy for ages.

Recruitment scams using your own corp/alliance are fine, claiming to be working on behalf of players/groups of players you're not affiliated with is considered impersonation and a violation of our policies.

Greetings,

Impersonation has been prohibited for a long time.

The EULA clearly states that:

GÇ£No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identityGÇ¥

A similar clause has been in the EVE Online Naming Policy for a good while:

GÇ£c. No player may use the character name of another player to falsely represent his or her identity. Player created corporation and alliance names also fall under this policy, as do names of any other in-game entities.GÇ¥

The TOS update is therefore nothing new, merely a clarification of what has been policy for ages.

Recruitment scams using your own corp/alliance are fine, claiming to be working on behalf of players/groups of players you're not affiliated with is considered impersonation and a violation of our policies.

Greetings,

Impersonation has been prohibited for a long time.

The EULA clearly states that:

GÇ£No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identityGÇ¥

A similar clause has been in the EVE Online Naming Policy for a good while:

GÇ£c. No player may use the character name of another player to falsely represent his or her identity. Player created corporation and alliance names also fall under this policy, as do names of any other in-game entities.GÇ¥

The TOS update is therefore nothing new, merely a clarification of what has been policy for ages.

Recruitment scams using your own corp/alliance are fine, claiming to be working on behalf of players/groups of players you're not affiliated with is considered impersonation and a violation of our policies.

Come on, where's your creativity. As a member of GoonWaffe this is the perfect opportunity to sell people permits to scam in your name (because if they have your permit they are not technically 'falsely' presenting themselves as your representative - and a representative is not necessarily the guy who is allowed to add someone to the corp).
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And then threaten to withdraw that permit and petion them unless they give you 80% of their earnings.