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Condordia Apoclypia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.10 11:58:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:Scammers Tears, Best Tears :D
yep , this is nice , love to read all those whiny north gay boys. |
Condordia Apoclypia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:03:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Congratulations! You may discuss the ToS changes in here so long as you do it civilly, and without attacking CCP, ISD or each other. Thank you. To be fair, the op is kinda attacking ISD and CCP. I was seeing that as well, equally discussing a change made by CCP with anything but approval can be seen as attacking the decision so I fail to see the facility to discuss?
me too , even withs this isd in this tread i still report , cant w8 to report them all if i see those scams :) |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
445
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:03:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:Scammers Tears, Best Tears :D
The best part of this post, the first line of his corp's bio.
If you were requested ISK to join corp, you've been scammed, and you're stupid for not reading this first!
Pots and kettles man.... Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13639
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:04:00 -
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Condordia Apoclypia wrote:Lair Osen wrote:Scammers Tears, Best Tears :D yep , this is nice , love to read all those whiny north gay boys.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Congratulations! You may discuss the ToS changes in here so long as you do it civilly, and without attacking CCP, ISD or each other. Thank you. This thread is open on sufferance, calling people gay boys and gloating over tears are hardly in keeping with the stipulations of the quote above.
It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like the change to the ToS, don't ruin this rare opportunity.
If you can't post nicely in it, don't post. Alternatively start your own thread dedicated to collecting scammer tears. I am furnishing this post "as is". I do not provide any warranty for the post whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the post will be error-free.
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Condordia Apoclypia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:06:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Condordia Apoclypia wrote:Lair Osen wrote:Scammers Tears, Best Tears :D yep , this is nice , love to read all those whiny north gay boys. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Congratulations! You may discuss the ToS changes in here so long as you do it civilly, and without attacking CCP, ISD or each other. Thank you. This thread is open on sufferance, calling people gay boys and gloating over tears are hardly in keeping with the stipulations of the quote above. It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like the change to the ToS, don't ruin this rare opportunity. If you can't post nicely in it, don't post. Alternatively start your own thread dedicated to collecting scammer tears.
that was my point lol
edit: i learn form the best ingame btw |
Lair Osen
Unlawful Unit
24
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote: This thread is open on sufferance, calling people gay boys and gloating over tears are hardly in keeping with the stipulations of the quote above.
It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like the change to the ToS, don't ruin this rare opportunity and get it locked.
If you can't post nicely in it, don't post. Alternatively start your own thread dedicated to collecting scammer tears.
Well if you insist.
"You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity."
Seems fine to me, nothing wrong with a bit more honesty ingame. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43790
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:18:00 -
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THIS is the EVE Community at its most despicable.
Thank goodness EVE is really all about the game and not its community anymore.
Were it all about the 'community' the whole thing would have imploded a little over 2 years ago. And it almost did.
Sad. Just sad. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
325
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:29:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..
I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.
A 'full explanation' I don't think will be good enough, the current wording is confusing, vague, and inaccurate with the current historical use of 'impersonation', such as playing as an NPC corp or saying I'm a valid 3rd party money trader. |
Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:52:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like ...
It shouldn't be a rare event.
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1803
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:55:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:If I were to say "I represent the group of players known as "people who live in nullsec", pay me 10bn isk and you will be given a free pass to all of nullsec."
^ i would now be banned, correct?
On the plus side it would potentially mean that the bumpers wouldn't be able to claim to be from/an agent of New Order when they are not, maybe even cut down on the sheer volume of spam they pump into local which is probably the most irritating part of their activity. Its not all bad.
I am an agent of the New Order though, lucky for you that I am here. Simply pay me the 10m for your permit and you will be granted a years worth of mining in our space (systems rated between 0.5 and 1.0 inclusive) |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13640
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:05:00 -
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Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like ... It shouldn't be a rare event. I agree, but it is what it is. I am furnishing this post "as is". I do not provide any warranty for the post whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the post will be error-free.
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Pap Uhotih
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:08:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Pap Uhotih wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:If I were to say "I represent the group of players known as "people who live in nullsec", pay me 10bn isk and you will be given a free pass to all of nullsec."
^ i would now be banned, correct?
On the plus side it would potentially mean that the bumpers wouldn't be able to claim to be from/an agent of New Order when they are not, maybe even cut down on the sheer volume of spam they pump into local which is probably the most irritating part of their activity. Its not all bad. I am an agent of the New Order though, lucky for you that I am here. Simply pay me the 10m for your permit and you will be granted a years worth of mining in our space (systems rated between 0.5 and 1.0 inclusive)
I'm not a miner, I'm just one of the many thousands of people that have to suffer the dribble that gets posted in local. Since New Order is a character and various corporations and alliances have similar names perhaps you should be more cautious about who exactly you are so openly claiming to be an agent of, I definitely think you are breaking the rules and I'm going to tell my mummy all about you nasty people as well as chastising you with various iterations and variations of the word 'um', so there. |
Anomaly One
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:08:00 -
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I really hope it doesn't mean what it says it means, otherwise this is a slippery slope for the game becoming another ultima online..
CCP should include a long definition of what this game is about when someone creates an account..
"...Sandbox... blablabla... do w/e you want... blablabla... if you are stupid enough to get scammed no you can't file a petition to claim your shinies back.."
The only person you can trust with your items is YOU whether it's in eve online or real life. And the good thing about eve is that if you get scammed you can make them pay for their actions in your own way. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
467
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:22:00 -
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Aryth wrote:We believe that this was intended as a clarification to prevent the Pizza incident from reoccurring. Where people edited the Wiki to say they were ISD verified trusted 3rd parties (Then scammed using that page).
If so a new rule adding ISD and the Wiki to the "out of bounds" parties seems like the best solution.
So because of this scammers who use "api verified" fake sites could fall under this same ban?
A lot of isk doublers are going to be in for a treat if that's the case... "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8684
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:22:00 -
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This isn't the first time that new rules are snuck in under the guise of a "clarification." For example, when the GM team decided to forbid people from lurking in the recruitment channel to find marks to scam, they claimed that "it has always been the rule" but before that, nobody was getting warnings/bans for searching for marks in the recruitment channel.
If you're going to make up completely ambiguous nonsense that screams "selective enforcement" then stop trying to sneak it under the radar as a "clarification" and just ban scamming if that's the end goal. Then you can engage in experiments like "can EVE be a generic carebear MMO without spiraling into the ground?" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1803
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:23:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Pap Uhotih wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:If I were to say "I represent the group of players known as "people who live in nullsec", pay me 10bn isk and you will be given a free pass to all of nullsec."
^ i would now be banned, correct?
On the plus side it would potentially mean that the bumpers wouldn't be able to claim to be from/an agent of New Order when they are not, maybe even cut down on the sheer volume of spam they pump into local which is probably the most irritating part of their activity. Its not all bad. I am an agent of the New Order though, lucky for you that I am here. Simply pay me the 10m for your permit and you will be granted a years worth of mining in our space (systems rated between 0.5 and 1.0 inclusive) I'm not a miner, I'm just one of the many thousands of people that have to suffer the dribble that gets posted in local. Since New Order is a character and various corporations and alliances have similar names perhaps you should be more cautious about who exactly you are so openly claiming to be an agent of, I definitely think you are breaking the rules and I'm going to tell my mummy all about you nasty people as well as chastising you with various iterations and variations of the word 'um', so there.
There are a number of similarly named corporations/alliances, and there are also "groups of players" who aren't in the same corp/alliance but definitely identify as a group. I am an Agent of one such group, known as the New Order, we oversee highsec and try and keep the riff raff out. If that statement is against the rules, then the rules are immensely stupid.
This is kind of the point :)
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
205
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:50:00 -
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OK.
I removed a post(and all that quoted it) involving sexual orientation as an insult.
The perpetrator has been reported upward.
Remember that this thread is open on contingency of it staying civil and (mostly) troll free.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43810
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:55:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:OK.
I removed a post(and all that quoted it) involving sexual orientation as an insult.
The perpetrator has been reported upward.
Remember that this thread is open on contingency of it staying civil and (mostly) troll free.
Yup. That's the way these guys post when they are both Mad..............and Butthurt. |
Kumail Nanjiani
Eternal Children ACME Holding Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:58:00 -
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ITT: juicy elitist tears flowing like a babbling brook & Goons giving orders to the Devs to fix it while cracking a whip saying, "get back to work for us."
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8685
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:02:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:On the plus side it would potentially mean that the bumpers wouldn't be able to claim to be from/an agent of New Order when they are not, maybe even cut down on the sheer volume of spam they pump into local which is probably the most irritating part of their activity. Its not all bad.
Anyone who takes action to support the cause of the New Order is a member. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
99
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:06:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:OK.
I removed a post(and all that quoted it) involving sexual orientation as an insult.
The perpetrator has been reported upward.
Remember that this thread is open on contingency of it staying civil and (mostly) troll free.
Yup. That's the way these guys post when they are both Mad..............and Butthurt.
It is often how people afflicted by game addiction react. It is a disease. CCP are realizing their game is being plagged by those type of individuals and are doing something about it (finaly!). Hense the intense reactions about something that, in ReaLity, is nothing at all. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1482
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:18:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I understand the need to keep rules vague, in order to prevent people from tapdancing to the line. In this case, your wording honestly is way too vauge. It has a chilling effect on the metagame we all know and love.
Translation: It's like one player can't fck over the other no more!
I think it's hilarious! The amount of tears coming from people who play the game in the vilest manner and are the lowest form of scum in the game are crying because they're going to have to move up one rung up the ladder descending directly into the poop chute of Eve, it's plain simple hilarity!
With that said, I'm also not one for lots of rules and especially those that are so vague that simply having a name similar to another toon might get me banned for no other reason than being here. *shakes head*
HTFU!...for the children! |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
467
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:21:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:If I were to say "I represent the group of players known as "people who live in nullsec", pay me 10bn isk and you will be given a free pass to all of nullsec."
^ i would now be banned, correct?
On the plus side it would potentially mean that the bumpers wouldn't be able to claim to be from/an agent of New Order when they are not, maybe even cut down on the sheer volume of spam they pump into local which is probably the most irritating part of their activity. Its not all bad.
James 315 allows for anyone to be an Agent of NO by simply doing. The act makes it so.
(EDIT-Andski already mentioned it). "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1805
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:24:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I understand the need to keep rules vague, in order to prevent people from tapdancing to the line. In this case, your wording honestly is way too vauge. It has a chilling effect on the metagame we all know and love.
Translation: It's like one player can't fck over the other no more! I think it's hilarious! The amount of tears coming from people who play the game in the vilest manner and are the lowest form of scum in the game are crying because they're going to have to move up one rung up the ladder descending directly into the poop chute of Eve, it's plain simple hilarity! With that said, I'm also not one for lots of rules and especially those that are so vague that simply having a name similar to another toon might get me banned for no other reason than being here. *shakes head*
Do you understand that your little translation runs counter to the themes, mechanics, and rules that this game was designed around and spent ten years enjoying? Do you understand that CCP have explicitly made it a selling point of this game that in the quest for your own personal gain and entertainment you can kick over someone elses sandcastle?
I hope you do, otherwise you might be playing the wrong game to begin with.
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Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:24:00 -
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Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:It's rare for CCP to allow us to discuss things like ... It shouldn't be a rare event. If you look a bit closer i didn't quote the guy that was talking about sexual orientation but Jhonah about disccussing "rare" stuff. You could have said that you removed posts you didn't like at least. :)
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:OK. I removed a post(and all that quoted it) involving sexual orientation as an insult.
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Fanatic Row
DED Drug Enforcement Department
54
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:25:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:[As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..
I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.
Thanks for the update.
Don't forget that CCP regulary runs Power of 2 and Start A SIde-kick campaigns, with 'spy' being one of the options being presented for your new account
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Condordia Apoclypia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:26:00 -
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Those scams should be stopped , other scamms already bad enough , lots of new bros who got scammed the first week are going and never return.
I like the servers go online a decade more, eve always had a nice position in the mmo sc-fi genre , that wouldnt be long tho
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43836
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:29:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Do you understand that your little translation runs counter to the themes, mechanics, and rules that this game was designed around and spent ten years enjoying? Do you understand that CCP have explicitly made it a selling point of this game that in the quest for your own personal gain and entertainment you can kick over someone elses sandcastle?
I hope you do, otherwise you might be playing the wrong game to begin with.
You can kick over a sandcastle while being yourself. I see no problem here at all. |
Kumail Nanjiani
Eternal Children ACME Holding Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:32:00 -
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As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..
I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.
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The irony though is that the people that elect the CSM and continually manipulate you developers are the same people who don't spend any money on the game, because they are advanced enough to earn their PLEX, while hard working newbros such as myself, who have put thousands of dollars into the game get the shaft, and it's not cool. you should start listening more to the people who feed your family and keep a roof over your head.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
446
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:34:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I understand the need to keep rules vague, in order to prevent people from tapdancing to the line. In this case, your wording honestly is way too vauge. It has a chilling effect on the metagame we all know and love.
Translation: It's like one player can't fck over the other no more! I think it's hilarious! The amount of tears coming from people who play the game in the vilest manner and are the lowest form of scum in the game are crying because they're going to have to move up one rung up the ladder descending directly into the poop chute of Eve, it's plain simple hilarity! With that said, I'm also not one for lots of rules and especially those that are so vague that simply having a name similar to another toon might get me banned for no other reason than being here. *shakes head*
Your second line hits the nail on the head with me. I'm not an active scammer (I did non consensually borrow some isk from a gentleman who let a pretty voice on comms override his common sense), so if CCP does intend to remove chunks of scamming, it won't impact my game.
If CCP wants to get rid of scamming, then they should specifically say it. Overbroad and vague clauses that can be misinterpreted is not the way to do it. Kept the way it is, this will just generate huge masses of support tickets as people try to find exactly where "the line" sits, masses of tickets as people try to "petition war" their enemies into a ban, and a burned out, confused GM team who're stuck trying to interpret a clause that honestly can't be applied. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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