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Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
111
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:37:00 -
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As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..
I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.
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The irony though is that the people that elect the CSM and continually manipulate you developers are the same people who don't spend any money on the game, because they are advanced enough to earn their PLEX, while hard working newbros such as myself, who have put thousands of dollars into the game get the shaft, and it's not cool. you should start listening more to the people who feed your family and keep a roof over your head. [/quote]
Keep in mind that those people that dont spend money on the game are forcing you to spend money on the game.
Also you said you are a new bro and have spent thousands so dollars in the game? you sir are doing it wrong... |

Condordia Apoclypia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:38:00 -
[182] - Quote
As guard posted last night, we'll look into this today for you guys..
I'm going to take your concerns, and the concerns highlighted by the CSM directly to the GM Team to get this all ironed out. Whether this is a full explanation of the wording change in detail, or alteration to the wording is to be decided, of course.
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The irony though is that the people that elect the CSM and continually manipulate you developers are the same people who don't spend any money on the game, because they are advanced enough to earn their PLEX, while hard working newbros such as myself, who have put thousands of dollars into the game get the shaft, and it's not cool. you should start listening more to the people who feed your family and keep a roof over your head. [/quote]
uuh plex arnt from thin air , every plex ingame is paid from real moeny , ccp even makes more money with plex then normal sub. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
209

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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:40:00 -
[183] - Quote
Let us keep the conversation on topic and focused on the issue at hand.
No need to argue PLEX versus subs here.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
446
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:42:00 -
[184] - Quote
Kumail Nanjiani wrote:
The irony though is that the people that elect the CSM and continually manipulate you developers are the same people who don't spend any money on the game, because they are advanced enough to earn their PLEX, while hard working newbros such as myself, who have put thousands of dollars into the game get the shaft, and it's not cool. you should start listening more to the people who feed your family and keep a roof over your head.
Since you are, as they say, a "newbro", I'll hint you in on some EVE economics. All PLEX in the system must be purchased with RL clash (outside of some prizes). A PLEX costs more to purchase than paying your account monthly.
People who continue their sub with PLEX end up netting CCP more ISk than a sub payer. SOMEONE had to buy that PLEX that's for sale on the market. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1018
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:52:00 -
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One of the great things about EVE is the "hook". Also why DUST is failing.
EVE is the only game around where there is a sandbox where you can play sociopaths in space, scammer extraordinaire, megalomaniac that commits war crimes, super spy that takes down empires, robber who specializes in thefts, cruel pirate, economy shaping market warlord, etc.
These are the things that make EVE better than any other game out there for those that enjoy interacting in a world with those archtypes. Ships in space while a niche, is not truly the niche that makes EVE excel. It is the broad and deep and endless possibilities of the sandbox itself.
In general the Goon position is for an expansive sandbox as possible. Scamming is not my playstyle of choice and I have never participated in it, but I do love the new stories and drama it generates. Impersonation is a cornerstone of many scams and I would not like to see that leave EVE. Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal - Representing Goonswarm Federation, Goonwaffe, CFC Finance, Greater Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere, CFC Rental Program, Burn Jita, CFC Supply, and who knows what else.-á Vile Rat: You'e the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3378
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:54:00 -
[186] - Quote
Aryth wrote:One of the great things about EVE is the "hook". Also why DUST is failing.
EVE is the only game around where there is a sandbox where you can play sociopaths in space, scammer extraordinaire, megalomaniac that commits war crimes, super spy that takes down empires, robber who specializes in thefts, cruel pirate, economy shaping market warlord, etc.
These are the things that make EVE better than any other game out there for those that enjoy interacting in a world with those archtypes. Ships in space while a niche, is not truly the niche that makes EVE excel. It is the broad and deep and endless possibilities of the sandbox itself.
In general the Goon position is for an expansive sandbox as possible. Scamming is not my playstyle of choice and I have never participated in it, but I do love the new stories and drama it generates. Impersonation is a cornerstone of many scams and I would not like to see that leave EVE.
Sandbox and litterbox are not the same. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1485
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:57:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Do you understand that your little translation runs counter to the themes, mechanics, and rules that this game was designed around and spent ten years enjoying? Do you understand that CCP have explicitly made it a selling point of this game that in the quest for your own personal gain and entertainment you can kick over someone elses sandcastle?
I hope you do, otherwise you might be playing the wrong game to begin with.
There is scamming and then there are mechanics that allow for the complete undermining of the game. Impersonation, to the extent that has been allowed undermines the game, does not allow a person to easily build a reputation and/or service when 499,999 other toons can attempt to impersonate that one with zero consequences. The new rule does more to mirror RL than anything else .RL laws still don't prevent you from impersonation though, it does put consequences out there if you're caught. I guess, now you have in game consequences. Deal with it.
Or maybe, impersonation became so pervasive that CCP got tired of dealing with the problems that it creates.
Either way, it would have been better to make an in-game mechanic to deal with such offenders rather than a TOS declaration for all forms of impersonation rather than just for CCP/GM impersonation. HTFU!...for the children! |

TharOkha
0asis Group
595
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:59:00 -
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Condordia Apoclypia wrote:Those scams should be stopped , other scamms already bad enough , lots of new bros who got scammed the first week are going and never return.
I like the servers go online a decade more, eve always had a nice position in the mmo sc-fi genre , that wouldnt be long tho
really good change
Dont you think that this is the exactly the reason why EVE is here for over 10 years now? Being scammed in the first days in EVE is the ultimate exam and tutorial for newcomer .If you fall for scam there are two options
1. Emo-Rage and quit 2. Emo-Rage, quit, and return.
EVE is not just for smart people but mainly for patient people. Thats why EVE is here for so long, thats why is EVE writting headlines in prestige journals. Thats why EVE is in the eyes of real world economists, sociologists and journalists.
You know the principles of evolution, right? Survival of the fittest. Now what CCP is doing is "placing an obstacles" into this principle and thus destroying the sandbox gameplay. I sense EAnfluence already. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43865
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:01:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote: Or maybe, impersonation became so pervasive that CCP got tired of dealing with the problems that it creates.
True words there.
And probably about to become true as well concerning miner bumping issues.
Those petitions have got to be eating up time and resources.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4474
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:05:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:The new rule does more to mirror RL than anything else . Ban all scamming There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
224
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:13:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I understand the need to keep rules vague, in order to prevent people from tapdancing to the line. In this case, your wording honestly is way too vauge. It has a chilling effect on the metagame we all know and love.
Translation: It's like one player can't fck over the other no more! I think it's hilarious! The amount of tears coming from people who play the game in the vilest manner and are the lowest form of scum in the game are crying because they're going to have to move up one rung up the ladder descending directly into the poop chute of Eve, it's plain simple hilarity! With that said, I'm also not one for lots of rules and especially those that are so vague that simply having a name similar to another toon might get me banned for no other reason than being here. *shakes head*
CCP uses this image to market the game. The ability to be bad is literally a selling point. This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1018
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:20:00 -
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Hisec forum warriors claim soon-to-be-reversed GM incompetent overreach as sign of major shift in game philosophy.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
446
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:22:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:CCP uses this image to market the game. The ability to be bad is literally a selling point.
To some, be the villain means "Only engage in piracy in low/null, where combat is expected and consented to. All ransoms must be honored. Targets will be verified if newb or not, and if newb, they'll be left alone.
Scamming, awoxing, ganking, bumping, and nonconsensual wardecs are not things that an isolated from humanity, immortal, hypercompetitive posthuman being with no effective limits on their behaviour (as according to lore) would do.
Star Trek is the future, man.
On that note, some of you guys need to go pick up The Empyrean Age, a book written about the EVE universe. The Broker is a capsuleer (sorta), and he pulls crap that make some of these complaints look tame. THAT'S the vision CCP has for the EVE universe. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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The Git
Mercantile and Stuff
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:24:00 -
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The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?
I've tried to bring several people into the game...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff. |

Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1021
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:35:00 -
[195] - Quote
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:CCP uses this image to market the game. The ability to be bad is literally a selling point. To some, be the villain means "Only engage in piracy in low/null, where combat is expected and consented to. All ransoms must be honored. Targets will be verified if newb or not, and if newb, they'll be left alone. Scamming, awoxing, ganking, bumping, and nonconsensual wardecs are not things that an isolated from humanity, immortal, hypercompetitive posthuman being with no effective limits on their behaviour (as according to lore) would do. Star Trek is the future, man. On that note, some of you guys need to go pick up The Empyrean Age, a book written about the EVE universe. The Broker is a capsuleer (sorta), and he pulls crap that make some of these complaints look tame. THAT'S the vision CCP has for the EVE universe.
I know you didn't seriously recommend someone pay for those books. I did and I feel eternal shame for it. They are that bad. Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal - Representing Goonswarm Federation, Goonwaffe, CFC Finance, Greater Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere, CFC Rental Program, Burn Jita, CFC Supply, and who knows what else.-á Vile Rat: You'e the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
305
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:38:00 -
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Does this mean Jarod Garamonde has to stop claiming to be the President of Oursulaert? "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
232
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:38:00 -
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The Git wrote:me...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff.
Players leave games all the time because the rules, the setting or the gameplay isn't for them. It has been said multiple times that eve is not for everyone - and that is a good thing. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
447
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:39:00 -
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Aryth wrote:
I know you didn't seriously recommend someone pay for those books. I did and I feel eternal shame for it. They are that bad.
My good Goonsir, I said pick up, not purchase. Empyrean Age is reasonably good to get an idea of how awful life in New Eden really is. I couldn't get into Templar One, and the latest book I think I managed one chapter before it got deleted.
I mean, in my own defense, I've read C.S. Groto and Matt Ward books. My taste in books may be forever skewed by the awfulness of those two. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3461
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:40:00 -
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Is this a scandal yet?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
3044
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:44:00 -
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The Git wrote:The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?
I've tried to bring several people into the game...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff. Which is why we survive and why they didn't. We are stronger than them and can deal with it. -áGÖÑ-á
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4475
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:47:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:The Git wrote:The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players?
I've tried to bring several people into the game...only to see them leave fairly quickly for a combination of two influences; the complexity of the game coupled with what they felt was a needless level of paranoia caused by the constant worry that someone, anyone, everyone, is trying to steal your stuff. Which is why we survive and why they didn't. We are stronger than them and can deal with it. Which is why they need more npc protection. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1664
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:55:00 -
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hello boys ;)
my name is blawrf but you can call me michelle  |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
205
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:02:00 -
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Scammer tears. Delicious. |

handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:13:00 -
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Look at all the butthurt goons in this thread. Daawww, It warms my twisted little heart.
I believe this calls for a hearty: HTFU lads!
GÇ£It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.GÇ¥ -á-á -Jack Handy
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
262
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:14:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote: in my own defense, I've read C.S. Groto and Matt Ward books.
Oh my, and you can haven't ripped your eyes out? Well done! |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4637
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:14:00 -
[206] - Quote
The Git wrote:The game is about space ships, asteroids, pew pew, stations, fighting.........but don't some of you get the impression that the game is becoming defined by how ****** you can treat other players? no, it always has been |

Deep DonkeyPunch
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:17:00 -
[207] - Quote
This is a thread now about unbanning barracuda and Chris Bailey, Who were in turn banned unjustifiably. When the GM's opinions were challenged and shown to be invalid in this circumstance, They were told simply to deal with it. They rather ban 2 players who have supported eve with over -ú2000 in Eve Online subscription in an attempt to save their public relations than to simply as they should of told the unfortunate members of eve who got scammed within the rules at the time to wisen up next time as they usually do.
RIP in peace barracuda and Chris Bailey |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43888
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:26:00 -
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So much forgetting that CCP owns all aspects of EVE, including every single thing that happens on the server.
None of it, not even your accomplishments in-game, are technically yours at all.
THAT is the way it's always been. They have the right to declare whatever they want to declare.
You agree to this idea when you accept the EULA.
If you like it not, there are plenty of other elaborate time wasters out there.
Now, complain when they truly act like EA, like trying to turn the ultimate solo game ever, SimCity, into an MMO.
THEN complain all you want. |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
230
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:28:00 -
[209] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:So much forgetting that CCP owns all aspects of EVE, including every single thing that happens on the server.
None of it, not even your accomplishments in-game, are technically yours at all.
THAT is the way it's always been. They have the right to declare whatever they want to declare.
You agree to this idea when you accept the EULA.
If you like it not, there are plenty of other elaborate time wasters out there.
Now, complain when they truly act like EA, like trying to turn the ultimate solo game ever, SimCity, into an MMO.
THEN complain all you want.
Cool, thanks for the legalism that adds nothing to the discussion whatsoever. |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
230
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:29:00 -
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How dare you discuss things here in the General Discussion forum. |
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