Thank JC, looks like we are back to square one. Players are attempting to do CCP's job.

I truly hoped it was CCP's ad, i guess i was naive.

It wasn't a new bounty system.

And yeah it fooled me too. But it was an advertisement for a corp called New Eden Bounties. They were trying to find a way to incorporate it into their corp so that you can HIRE members of their corp as bounty hunters.

This was the advert during the AT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Ypz9CQzQg

And this is their corp website, but not much on it.
http://www.newedenbounties.com/

From a thread that popped up not long after the AT,

Edit: just to be clear, this was a player sponsored add, not a ccpromise.

The bounty system is so worth it for the mails that poor capsuleers send generally begging and trying to negotiate a deal split the bounty.

The EOH-ppl ... well ... a few of them log on every day,
but i didn't check where they are or if they stay docked all day.
it. :)

They do ?
How do you achieve that ?

I don't care about tears, they **** me off, but i'm curious.

I mean ... i just kill them ... so how do you do it ? lol

The bounty system is so worth it for the mails that poor capsuleers send generally begging and trying to negotiate a deal split the bounty.

Those must be some really stupid pilots. I'd just kill myself with an alt and keep the whole bounty.

Problem is, the matter is equally inherently unsolvable. There's no way CCP could prevent you from having an alt kill yourself; and even if they could, you can always have a corp member do it, and split the isk.

It just has to low a priority and not very much support by the PvPer's player base, since it could actually harm their playstyle by becoming hunted themselves by capable PvPers instead of them hunting more or less helpless miners and PvMers.

It would good for CCP to at least attempt to fix the bounty system. I mean, it is totally useless right now.

All they have to do, is to announce that the following expansions are going to have experiments with the bounty system, so that they can figure out which one works the best.

Since the current system is pretty much a dead horse and rotting, and nobody would mind the experimentation, cause at least it would be a sign of progress rather than stagnation.

And the funniest part, all CCP has to do, is look up player's suggestions and start from there, cause any one idea from the community is far better than what we got right now, which is nothing, just a label.

Or maybe CCP is afraid of the Troll army that will rise to defend that dead horse? Cause when we finally can hunt down suicide gangers and pirates in empire. The empire sec and the game will get a new flavor and an ISK sink ;)

CCP needs to adapt or die.

I think there is always a way that CCP can come up with at least an improved version of a bounty system. I mean all they got to do is just look into the ideas that people suggest. For example:

Concord gives out random licensees to the wanna be "bounty hunters". Think of these licensees, as license to kill, authorized by CONCORD. These licensees are granted to players with security level 3.0 and above. Licensees are a commodity so they can be traded, as there is a limited number of them, - here CCP can work out a mechanic of how it is delivered and replenished.

How does bounty hunter gets the right to kill another player? When the intended "criminal" reaches a bounty say of a100 mil, and his security level drops below -1.0. This would authorize a bounty to pod him, and unless he is podded, bounty hunter can choose to destroying his ships, instead. When he finally does pod him, license is revoked on the target and he gets paid.

Bringing 1 on 1 fights in empire.

This is my idea in less than 5 mins of thinking on it, and it is by far better than what we have now.

I hope you can agree that there is ALWAY room for CCP to do something about this, unfortunately it seems it is a dead mule that CCP wants to ignore, as long as possible.

Bounty system is essential to a healthy empire, and what we got is stagnation. Just think how quickly the miners would respond to those Goons ;) But placing bounties on their hads and the privateers would indirectly protect them.

Fun for everyone.

Yet, another great example, How another Player(Inari Kobayashi) came up in a short time with a better Bounty System than a current one. And he is not even paid to think on this!

Thus, it is inexcusable for CCP to have a Bounty Hunting System that is almost 8 years old and without any change, since the Beta - Please, allow it to sink into your mind deep and hard.. - 8 years nothing change, Still with me?

Great idea but could even simplfy it a bit

If A wants to take out a bounty on B then has to buy a bounty from Concord this gives A a fully transferrable contract to kill B for a limited period of time (1 week or 1 month at different rates). Buying bounty puts the amount of the bounty into escrow.

A can put the bounty contract up on the contract system (and risk an alt of B picking it up) or trade it to a known bounty hunter corp/player.

Basic bounty works for 0.0 or low sec but A has to pay a premium for a high sec bounty to allow kills in high sec. This would be paid to Concord and amount to a real ISK sink (no bad thing as far as the economy is concerned).

Bounty can only be taken out on players with negative security rating.

Bounty generates kill mail to show A what has happened and the total loss to B. I am sure with a system like this bounty hunter reputations would soon spring up to ensure a robust mechanic.

If i recall correctly from Alliance Tournament 9, during live video breaks, there ran a short clip telling us of a new Bounty Hunting system that is coming soon.

It wasn't a new bounty system.

And yeah it fooled me too. But it was an advertisement for a corp called New Eden Bounties. They were trying to find a way to incorporate it into their corp so that you can HIRE members of their corp as bounty hunters.

This was the advert during the AT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Ypz9CQzQg

And this is their corp website, but not much on it.
http://www.newedenbounties.com/

From a thread that popped up not long after the AT,

Edit: just to be clear, this was a player sponsored add, not a ccpromise.

Correct, this was not a CCP advert but an advert for New Eden Bounties. It's a system that is being developed at the moment (slowely) and will hopefully be launched come Fanfest 2012.

However, please note that we are not affiliated with the Big Shot bounty service, which seems to be mostly inactive.

Have you thought of posting this in the 'Features & Ideas Discussion'?

Just throwing spaghetti at the wall here:

What if bounty comes out of the targets wallet?

It would be a doube whammy to the big pay high name targets, and bounty contractors would get the satisfaction of knowing that their targets are dead and in the neg on their isk bank

That way people are not forever doomed to looking over their shoulder

Well, this would be far too open to abuse.

Some bored hotshot, called Newbslayer, sits around Dodixie and picks out random casual called Captain Zoidberg, who is 2 months into the game and still doing LvL 3 missions in his spanking new drake. Newbslayer puts a 5bn ISK bounty on Zoidberg and kills him 20 seconds later. Then cleans up the pod with some smarties.

Newbie Zoidberg is now 5bn ISK in the red. Has lost his mission ship. Even if he sells of all his assets he will still be in debt and unable to buy a replacement ship. With no way to recover from the loss and unwilling to spend >100 $ on Plexx Zoidberg now throws the towel and unsubribes.

Congrats, you just griefed someone out of the game.

Cala

Edit:

This doesn't have to be a newbie either. Any alliance/corp that enjoys griefing and has too many ISK to burn can simply put out 50bn ISK bounty on a single player. Overall I don't think your idea works if implemented like this.

I understand you a 100%

But here me out, currently I just lost everything. My corp, my only mission running ship, I took the initiative to buy a plex which costed me 20 bucks hoping to be a good investment but I only got scammed out of it. Money is not easy for meto come by. I feel very stupid about it.

I'm just hoping I could have redemtion with you trusting me or better yet, get a friend of yours to do it for you and split it however you want with each other but I humbly ask you donate a billion of it for me kindly.

I'm open for anything, willing to join your corp for a given time to obtain that trust or anything else for that matter as I am unable to give you a security deposit.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.25 15:32
To: ,

Lol. I actually did undock in my pod last night when full to the gut with red wine. Nobody was quick enough to get a lock though ;(

Despite your noble words sir I would still require a security deposit of 800m Interstellar Kredits to partake in the services you are offering to provide.

I offer my sincere apologies if this in not a satisfacotry conclusion to our negotiations, ;p

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.25 02:13
To: ,

I wish I could come up with something that can show guarantee to be honest.
All I can say at the moment is to take my word on it but I know with such a prestigious person such as yourself it means nothing.

I don't know. I see it as a win win for you if I do or don't cause people wouldnt always be after ya or that and with a lot of mula.
But I really would give you the amount as I posted before as I would. I take 1 bil and give the rest back to you.

I can't compete with you. You can grief me, kick my ass 24/7, I'm nothing. I just really need some help getting a nice sum of doe to get on my feet.

Tell me what I can do for you, I'd do anything.

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Re: Re: Re: Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.24 08:19
To: ,

So enlighten me as to what guarantee I have once leave station and insta warp my pod to you to be blown up that you then trasnfer the agreed balance to my wallet?

This is why I require the deposit you see.

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Re: Re: Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.24 01:45
To: ,

Damn, I don't have the doe. But also logically if I had that much money and was able to earn that much I wouldn't be offering to kill ya to obtain a billion of your bounty and give you the rest.

I hope you can trust me and I am more than willing to do this on your own time. I'm a one man corp trying to get started. No purpose of me trying to **** ya off cause I am deliberately in no conditrion to fight back. So I can assure you, I would do my best to keep ya happy. lol

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Re: Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.23 15:24
To:

This sounds like a satisfactory offer to me Sir. So as I can feel safe in the knowledge that you will not trick me please send me a security deposit of 800m ISK to put my mind at ease. When transferring the ISK put "Bounty Security Deposit" as the Description. Please confirm the date/time that you would like to come to Amarr to complete the terms of this transaction.

Regards,

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Bounty
From: Sent: 2011.10.23 10:41
To: ,

Yo, let me come and kill you perdy plz. So I can have a billion of ya bounty and give the rest to you.

<3 lotta love.

Which is why the entire bounty system is inherently flawed.

Problem is, the matter is equally inherently unsolvable. There's no way CCP could prevent you from having an alt kill yourself; and even if they could, you can always have a corp member do it, and split the isk..

Loop holes are probably the biggest hurdle for the development team they do not want ot create a system where payouts are advantable by the bountied victim.

They are making it worse, by simply ignoring this issue. I fully expect them to deliver the change next summer. Forget Winter, winter is just a GFX update and ships stats changes. Their real deliverance will be in the summer.

I, too, would like to see a usable bounty system, or the current one removed. Then I wouldn't have to have anything tied up in bounties. Only doing that now because there's nothing else the bounty system in its current incarnation is good for.

Which is why the entire bounty system is inherently flawed.

Problem is, the matter is equally inherently unsolvable. There's no way CCP could prevent you from having an alt kill yourself; and even if they could, you can always have a corp member do it, and split the isk.

CCP is affraid that if they reward bounty hunters, there will never be any piracy going on...

Current Bounty Hunting system does equate to excellence - it indicates mediocrity.

(2) To restrict who is able to accept a specific bounty contract

I'm not sure they could make it much worse than it already is as far as this goes....

If i recall correctly from Alliance Tournament 9, during live video breaks, there ran a short clip telling us of a new Bounty Hunting system that is coming soon.

Is that in the pipeline for the Winter Expansion?

Or do we have to rely on this:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1502656

http://eve-bigshot.com/?site=home

I love how our community is able to come up with the ways to fix the problem, and yet CCP is still in drawing boards?

Can i get a hint when or if that is going to happen this Winter or do we have to wait till Dust514?

Thank JC, looks like we are back to square one. Players are attempting to do CCP's job.

I truly hoped it was CCP's ad, i guess i was naive.

its a sandbox, players are supposed to do things like that.