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Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
87
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:32:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Lucy Journey wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I don't get payed for this, I'm customer here Oh, I see where you went wrong.....when you passed the sign saying: Roller Coaster <------ -------> Sandbox You really should have taken the other path. It's not too late though....just backtrack a bit...your tickets might still be valid at the theme park. you guys are all brainwashed
Good thing that can't happen to you  |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
758
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:35:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will.
you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you ... |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:36:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will. you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you
We have an entire fleet doctrine named after Baltec's Megathron. I doubt we'll be seeing a HarryFleet doctrine of stabbed bombers any time soon.
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:41:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will. you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you
I'll fight you one v one harry |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
758
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:42:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Harry Forever wrote:baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will. you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you We have an entire fleet doctrine named after Baltec's Megathron. I doubt we'll be seeing a HarryFleet doctrine of stabbed bombers any time soon.
no you won't because stabs are mostly used solo, pretty smart of you not using them in a fleet
you are getting there ... |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
758
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:43:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will. you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you I'll fight you one v one harry
at least one is for the arenas...
thanks ustrello ... |

baltec1
Bat Country
7956
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:46:00 -
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Rhes wrote:
We have an entire fleet doctrine named after Baltec's Megathron. I doubt we'll be seeing a HarryFleet doctrine of stabbed bombers any time soon.
What use is safety in null sec? |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:26:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
the only thing lazy are your repetitive comments
nearly as lazy as only flying megathrons with cheap noob fits
Each one of my megathrons has done more then you ever will. you only fly in safety mode, thats what your K/D shows me, you don't take risk, one on one I would blast you I'll fight you one v one harry at least one is for the arenas... thanks ustrello
No no I think you misunderstood me I mean right now pick a system. I will defend baltec's ehonor |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
758
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:39:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:
I'll fight you one v one harry
at least one is for the arenas... thanks ustrello No no I think you misunderstood me I mean right now pick a system. I will defend baltec's ehonor
lol, you lost only 59 ships in 4 years, you are even the worse carebear then him...
I don't shoot chicken ... |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:41:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:
I'll fight you one v one harry
at least one is for the arenas... thanks ustrello No no I think you misunderstood me I mean right now pick a system. I will defend baltec's ehonor lol, you lost only 59 ships in 4 years, you are even the worse carebear then him... I don't shoot chicken
Because I am actually decent/ lucky as hell. But if you want to be a coward that is fine. |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
89
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:41:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:
I'll fight you one v one harry
at least one is for the arenas... thanks ustrello No no I think you misunderstood me I mean right now pick a system. I will defend baltec's ehonor lol, you lost only 59 ships in 4 years, you are even the worse carebear then him... I don't shoot chicken
Yeah, the venture from the KM a few pages back looked like it had some real teeth. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
413
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:47:00 -
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Just organize events. If people are afraid of losing isk, run your events on the test server. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
759
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:59:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:
I'll fight you one v one harry
at least one is for the arenas... thanks ustrello No no I think you misunderstood me I mean right now pick a system. I will defend baltec's ehonor lol, you lost only 59 ships in 4 years, you are even the worse carebear then him... I don't shoot chicken Yeah, the venture from the KM a few pages back looked like it had some real teeth.
he just run into my guns
I shotdown a billion goon haulers in their backyard, still need to find anybody who got the balls for that
all others just hide within fleets of hundrets, every kid can do that... there are just a handful good pilots out there
the others are just sheeps running in the herd
solo pilots are the elite ... |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:04:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: he just run into my guns
I shotdown a billion goon haulers in their backyard, still need to find anybody who got the balls for that
all others just hide within fleets of hundrets, every kid can do that... there are just a handful good pilots out there
the others are just sheeps running in the herd
solo pilots are the elite
See harry is too scared to fight me |

Lux0r
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
7
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:07:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:we need universe wide leagues and arenas to assure we can put our best ships to use in some competitive gaming environment
Community Spotlight Article
SCL Twitch Site
Syndicate Competitive League
There are several very competitive groups already in EVE that enjoy this style of game play. The problem you believe you have discovered already has this as a solution.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
759
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:15:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote: he just run into my guns
I shotdown a billion goon haulers in their backyard, still need to find anybody who got the balls for that
all others just hide within fleets of hundrets, every kid can do that... there are just a handful good pilots out there
the others are just sheeps running in the herd
solo pilots are the elite
See harry is too scared to fight me
you are no solo pilot, you guys just gank in groups of 30 vs. 1
thats no fighting... I know how you roll...
no system where you can sneak up with your friends...
I come and get you... just wait for it
... |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
759
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:19:00 -
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Lux0r wrote:Harry Forever wrote:we need universe wide leagues and arenas to assure we can put our best ships to use in some competitive gaming environment Community Spotlight ArticleSCL Twitch SiteSyndicate Competitive LeagueThere are several very competitive groups already in EVE that enjoy this style of game play. The problem you believe you have discovered already has this as a solution.
yea cool they do something here, still a gamemode would be much easier and accessible every time you want
if its already in the game, I don't understand why so many are screaming about it ... |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
91
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:41:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
yea cool they do something here, still a gamemode would be much easier and accessible every time you want
if its already in the game, I don't understand why so many are screaming about it
Because we don't want easy and accessible every time you want. We want difficult, and complicated, and 95% chance that the things you try will spectacularly backfire and blow up in your face. We want to plan, try and fail again and again so that success actually has meaning. That's why we play EvE and not some generic MMO where you can learn everything you need to know to perform at 90% efficiency of the best players world wide by reading two classguides and watching a 10 minute youtube video.
And yes, there may not be millions of players that fit that profile, but those that do are a reliable playerbase. Yes, we ***** and moan and write 100 page complaint threadnaughts about every little issue, but at the end of the day, we keep a game alive for ten years in a climate where other games perish in two. That profile generally constitutes a niche buisness, which seems to be a model with which both CCP and most of the playerbase are quite happy. Get it out of your head that every buisness has to appeal to the largest audience possible; a limited but reliable customer base can be just as viable, especially if that limitation means that you have little concurrence |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
759
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:52:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
yea cool they do something here, still a gamemode would be much easier and accessible every time you want
if its already in the game, I don't understand why so many are screaming about it
Because we don't want easy and accessible every time you want. We want difficult, and complicated, and 95% chance that the things you try will spectacularly backfire and blow up in your face. We want to plan, try and fail again and again so that success actually has meaning. That's why we play EvE and not some generic MMO where you can learn everything you need to know to perform at 90% efficiency of the best players world wide by reading two classguides and watching a 10 minute youtube video. And yes, there may not be millions of players that fit that profile, but those that do are a reliable playerbase. Yes, we ***** and moan and write 100 page complaint threadnaughts about every little issue, but at the end of the day, we keep a game alive for ten years in a climate where other games perish in two. That profile generally constitutes a niche buisness, which seems to be a model with which both CCP and most of the playerbase are quite happy. Get it out of your head that every buisness has to appeal to the largest audience possible; a limited but reliable customer base can be just as viable, especially if that limitation means that you have little concurrence
I only see you guys shoot rats and mining 90% of your time... if I shorten up that waiting time, thats just smart, more gaming less waiting... that logic seems to be not understandable by you guys
at the end it all is about efficiency... in life and in a game... you provide the most efficient entertainment you will win
and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run
I'm not talking just 10 years here, a lot of companies succeed 10 years but then fail miserably because they do not adapt to their customers, do not adapt to what is needed
success in the past ist no guarantee for the future ... |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:57:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote: he just run into my guns
I shotdown a billion goon haulers in their backyard, still need to find anybody who got the balls for that
all others just hide within fleets of hundrets, every kid can do that... there are just a handful good pilots out there
the others are just sheeps running in the herd
solo pilots are the elite
See harry is too scared to fight me you are no solo pilot, you guys just gank in groups of 30 vs. 1 thats no fighting... I know how you roll... no system where you can sneak up with your friends... I come and get you... just wait for it
Here is the thing you are too scared to do it. You are too scared to fight anything that can actually shoot back. I figured you would be a coward and not want to fight back but I wanted to prove it, and so you have. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
759
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:02:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote: he just run into my guns
I shotdown a billion goon haulers in their backyard, still need to find anybody who got the balls for that
all others just hide within fleets of hundrets, every kid can do that... there are just a handful good pilots out there
the others are just sheeps running in the herd
solo pilots are the elite
See harry is too scared to fight me you are no solo pilot, you guys just gank in groups of 30 vs. 1 thats no fighting... I know how you roll... no system where you can sneak up with your friends... I come and get you... just wait for it Here is the thing you are too scared to do it. You are too scared to fight anything that can actually shoot back. I figured you would be a coward and not want to fight back but I wanted to prove it, and so you have.
yea you are too unimportant to get killed by me, sorry
... |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13704
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:04:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run So you're saying that Justin Bieber, One Direction and Miley Cyrus are actually talented? After all they appeal to the masses. I am furnishing this post "as is". I do not provide any warranty for the post whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the post will be error-free.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
567
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:19:00 -
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Its called the Alliance tournament. But I suppose a CCP putting in a few more large/small scale fleet options for AT would be fun. Solo/duo, the current format, and maybe a 50/50 fleet fight. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
91
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:23:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: I only see you guys shoot rats and mining 90% of your time... if I shorten up that waiting time, thats just smart, more gaming less waiting... that logic seems to be not understandable by you guys
You fail to understand that things can have a value because they are not instantly available. If loosing your new shiny ship means that you loose the profits from ten hours of grinding, you fly it alot more carefully than if instant replacements would be available. Things like d-scan, scouting bookmarks, safespots etc. are only relevant game mechanics because they prevent massive losses, but they are still interesting mechanics.
Harry Forever wrote: and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run
Niche market. Google it. Seriously. Specifically "Small capital providers usually opt for a niche market with narrow demographics as a measure of increasing their financial gain margins.". By going for a limited audience, CCP avoids directly competing with developers like Blizzard, which probably wouldn't end well.
Harry Forever wrote: I'm not talking just 10 years here, a lot of companies succeed 10 years but then fail miserably because they do not adapt to their customers, do not adapt to what is needed
That simply isn't true for the MMO market:
Star Wars Galaxies - dead after 8 years, on life support for most of that time. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning - dead after 4 years, at least 2 of those on life support Star Wars: The Old Republic - started of so badly that within the first year it had to be turned into a money-sucking micro transaction vampire that makes you pay RL money for armor dyes. RANDOM armor dyes. A fate shard with a large number of other titles that were released as "AAA" titles, such as LOTR online, STO, GW2 and even some MMO ancients such as EQ.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
760
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:30:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote:and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run So you're saying that Justin Bieber, One Direction and Miley Cyrus are actually talented? After all they appeal to the masses.
I would not know one of their songs, but for sure they are hard workers to bring it up there... i have respect for the successful, cause i know what it takes to be the best  ... |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
91
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:33:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Harry Forever wrote:and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run So you're saying that Justin Bieber, One Direction and Miley Cyrus are actually talented? After all they appeal to the masses. I would not know one of their songs, but for sure they are hard workers to bring it up there... i have respect for the successful, cause i know what it takes to be the best 
So - the secret to success are repeated blows to the head until delusions of grandeur set in? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
760
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:35:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:Harry Forever wrote: I only see you guys shoot rats and mining 90% of your time... if I shorten up that waiting time, thats just smart, more gaming less waiting... that logic seems to be not understandable by you guys
You fail to understand that things can have a value because they are not instantly available. If loosing your new shiny ship means that you loose the profits from ten hours of grinding, you fly it alot more carefully than if instant replacements would be available. Things like d-scan, scouting bookmarks, safespots etc. are only relevant game mechanics because they prevent massive losses, but they are still interesting mechanics. Harry Forever wrote: and the masses are important, it proofs that you are right, only when you hit the mass market you are on track and will succeed over the long run
Niche market. Google it. Seriously. Specifically "Small capital providers usually opt for a niche market with narrow demographics as a measure of increasing their financial gain margins.". By going for a limited audience, CCP avoids directly competing with developers like Blizzard, which probably wouldn't end well. Harry Forever wrote: I'm not talking just 10 years here, a lot of companies succeed 10 years but then fail miserably because they do not adapt to their customers, do not adapt to what is needed
That simply isn't true for the MMO market: Star Wars Galaxies - dead after 8 years, on life support for most of that time. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning - dead after 4 years, at least 2 of those on life support Star Wars: The Old Republic - started of so badly that within the first year it had to be turned into a money-sucking micro transaction vampire that makes you pay RL money for armor dyes. RANDOM armor dyes. A fate shard with a large number of other titles that were released as "AAA" titles, such as LOTR online, STO, GW2 and even some MMO ancients such as EQ.
small fish get eaten, trust me that, you better be the biggest, niche market just succeeds at the beginning, then you have to bring it to the broughter audience...
you know what, for me the game just feels a bit like you don't have stuff available to assure you stay subscribed longer, thats a disadvantage, I want to stay subscribed longer because of the gameplay, not because of the skill waiting time
in the past that might was a good formula to keep people, but now people tend to not have that much time anymore, so you need to provide them the maximum entertainment in the shortest time available ... |

baltec1
Bat Country
7974
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:45:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
small fish get eaten, trust me that, you better be the biggest, niche market just succeeds at the beginning, then you have to bring it to the broughter audience...
you know what, for me the game just feels a bit like you don't have stuff available to assure you stay subscribed longer, thats a disadvantage, I want to stay subscribed longer because of the gameplay, not because of the skill waiting time
in the past that might was a good formula to keep people, but now people tend to not have that much time anymore, so you need to provide them the maximum entertainment in the shortest time available
EVE is growing still while WoW bled 1.5 million subs last year alone.
Seems people do not want what you are demanding. |

Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:47:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:small fish get eaten, trust me that, you better be the biggest, niche market just succeeds at the beginning, then you have to bring it to the broughter audience...
you know what, for me the game just feels a bit like you don't have stuff available to assure you stay subscribed longer, thats a disadvantage, I want to stay subscribed longer because of the gameplay, not because of the skill waiting time
in the past that might was a good formula to keep people, but now people tend to not have that much time anymore, so you need to provide them the maximum entertainment in the shortest time available
At least you're finally be honest about your intentions. You don't want good fights...you just want to kill the entire game.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13712
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:53:00 -
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Rhes wrote: At least you're finally be honest about your intentions. You don't want good fights...you just want to kill the entire game.
I'm considering petitioning him, under the new "totally not changed" ToS, for impersonating someone who actually has more than one brain cell. I am furnishing this post "as is". I do not provide any warranty for the post whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the post will be error-free.
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