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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2013.09.12 12:13:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I traded up 4 billion in ISK within 4 month, I got the cash, I just don't want to search for fight for hours, then have 30 seconds fun and need to do it all again, refit, make 20+ jumps, all that **** is boring You didn't "trade up". You got donated a bunch of ships and isk by people who thought you would actually be able to pull a crowd to VFK. You quit and kept most of it. That's not trading, that's scamming. Harry Forever wrote:90% is repetitive stuff to get 10% of the good thing, that needs to change, you guys just want to do dull things over and over again and not think about it, thats how you roll... you sure act the same in your work environment, wherelse people like me tend to make things more efficient and reduce the repetitive tasks by using computers No, that's not what "needs to change". And it's not going to change. You can ***** and whine and cry all you want, but CCP will never implement your arena. EVE is EVE. Not WoW. Get used to to or **** off, I honestly don't care which. I'm talking purely about my trading here, ships i got to fight the goons are excluded I feel you fear change and more fights in the game... if all you can handle is smashing F1 or activating the mining lazer you might have a problem soon... trust me that... changes will go into the direction I mentioned, because its the gaming future It's got nothing to do with fight you moron. It's got to do with you wanting to destroy a game's economy just so you can get repeatedly rinsed in an arena. Oh, you though maybe you'd win? You are awful at EVE, so after a week of getting continuously dunked, you'd be back on here whining about how you want another change to make it easier for you. You are a short sighted prick that has no intention of taking on board anyone else's opinions. You want EVE your way, and say **** everyone else. You are the problem. You know NOTHING about "gaming future". Every post you make is offensive, continuously telling everyone else they don't get it and they are just scared of the truth. But the real truth is this: You are a pathetic waste of space, and honestly the best thing CCP could do for the EVE community is ban you from posting all of this ****.
is the game destroyed because people play on SiSi for hours? no... the same effect arenas will have at the economy
different types of gamers play different parts of the game, some however will play all of them...
don't be so paranoid, nobody will destroy your EvE ... |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.09.12 12:24:00 -
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Again a sandbox will allow you to do these options you are talking about, but they will not be implemented the way you'd like them to be, it is against EVE and what a sandbox is meant to be.
I disagree |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.12 12:49:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:is the game destroyed because people play on SiSi for hours? no... the same effect arenas will have at the economy
different types of gamers play different parts of the game, some however will play all of them...
don't be so paranoid, nobody will destroy "your" EvE
I'm just tired searching the gooncaves for targets, your docking-games are anyoing
I want eve to have gameoptions for everybody, yes...
but you just want everybody to play your style, however thats too boring for most of the gamers out there If you really don't understand how it will effect the economy to have fight removed from regular space, and moved to indestructible tournament areas, then you don't understand EVE. If you don't understand why having these areas off limits to gankers and pirates is a dumb idea, you don;t understand EVE.
Only YOU have problem finding fights. Nobody else has problems finding them. So the problem is YOU, not the lack of a crappy arena system. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

baltec1
Bat Country
7979
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Posted - 2013.09.12 13:45:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:people don't understand that leagues and arenas are additional gameplay options
its no change, its additional stuff for the gamers
people here are scared of additional content, never seen that in any community
they fear WiS, they fear Arenas... so funny
if you want to play eve like you do, just go on doing it, no need to go into Arenas
there are industrials, traders, miners, there are people playing SoV warfare and there will be people pvping in Arenas
its as easy as that
We fear them because they have killed every single MMO they have ever been added to. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 13:58:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:is the game destroyed because people play on SiSi for hours? no... the same effect arenas will have at the economy
different types of gamers play different parts of the game, some however will play all of them...
don't be so paranoid, nobody will destroy "your" EvE
I'm just tired searching the gooncaves for targets, your docking-games are anyoing
I want eve to have gameoptions for everybody, yes...
but you just want everybody to play your style, however thats too boring for most of the gamers out there If you really don't understand how it will effect the economy to have fight removed from regular space, and moved to indestructible tournament areas, then you don't understand EVE. If you don't understand why having these areas off limits to gankers and pirates is a dumb idea, you don;t understand EVE. Only YOU have problem finding fights. Nobody else has problems finding them. So the problem is YOU, not the lack of a crappy arena system.
fights will not be removed from regular space, they will still happen there like in the past
arenas is just another game option, someday you will understand it... hopefully ... |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:people don't understand that leagues and arenas are additional gameplay options
its no change, its additional stuff for the gamers
people here are scared of additional content, never seen that in any community
they fear WiS, they fear Arenas... so funny
if you want to play eve like you do, just go on doing it, no need to go into Arenas
there are industrials, traders, miners, there are people playing SoV warfare and there will be people pvping in Arenas
its as easy as that We fear them because they have killed every single MMO they have ever been added to.
only bad gameplay kills games... we all know you want your Galaxies back, but this is EvE not Galaxies
galaxies died because people got bored of it, the devs wanted to save it, thats why they tried some stuff
arenas has nothing to do with that
nobody hold you up doing your stuff in Eve like before, Arenas is just an addition
if you and all others love your playstyle so much you sure will go on doing it after arenas are implemented as well ... |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:03:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:fights will not be removed from regular space, they will still happen there like in the past
arenas is just another game option, someday you will understand it... hopefully Of course they won't happen the same. If PvP players have the option of Regular PvP vs Unlimited ship replacement arenas, of course they are going to do some arenas. That means demand for replacement ships and modules will go down, as will isk flow between PvP and industrialists.
But that destroys what EVE is about. Every action in EVE is supposed to have consequences. You want to add the ability to avoid those consequences.
The only way to do arenas (without the test server) is like RvB have done. They do arranged PvP on various scales, all still part of the economy. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:03:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Again a sandbox will allow you to do these options you are talking about, but they will not be implemented the way you'd like them to be, it is against EVE and what a sandbox is meant to be.
you are like a kid telling other kids how they should play in a sandbox... pretty foolish ... |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:07:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:fights will not be removed from regular space, they will still happen there like in the past
arenas is just another game option, someday you will understand it... hopefully Of course they won't happen the same. If PvP players have the option of Regular PvP vs Unlimited ship replacement arenas, of course they are going to do some arenas. That means demand for replacement ships and modules will go down, as will isk flow between PvP and industrialists. But that destroys what EVE is about. Every action in EVE is supposed to have consequences. You want to add the ability to avoid those consequences. The only way to do arenas (without the test server) is like RvB have done. They do arranged PvP on various scales, all still part of the economy.
you guys won't touch arenas, so all will be fine...
other gamers will come to play arenas, they won't distract you from your SoV warfare
or are you telling me now, you fear you get addicted to arenas as well? ... |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:08:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Again a sandbox will allow you to do these options you are talking about, but they will not be implemented the way you'd like them to be, it is against EVE and what a sandbox is meant to be.
you are like a kid telling other kids how they should play in a sandbox... pretty foolish Huh? Pot, kettle, black. We've been given a sandbox, and we can all play in in however we want. You are the one asking for a construction crew to come in and build a permanent fort in a corner of the sandbox so you can play in it without having to build it yourself. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:10:00 -
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now I understand, everybody keeps telling me here that all will love arenas and leagues so much that nobody will play anything else in the game anymore
and that is a bad thing because you need to have people who play stuff they don't like
those people here sure know what gaming is about  ... |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:12:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:you guys won't touch arenas, so all will be fine...
other gamers will come to play arenas, they won't distract you from your SoV warfare
or are you telling me now, you fear you get addicted to arenas as well? I'm telling you that PvP oriented people would play arenas, and the whole idea of EVE would be destroyed. Slowly the economy would die, plex sales would decrease, the population would dwindle and eventually EVE would be gone. Basically as far as I see it, CCP can give you arenas, as long as: a) your ships get destroyed exactly as now, you have to fit a ship and fly to the arena to fight. b) the arena is not off limits to anyone. You can be hot dropped in the arena. c) There's no instant teleportation or systematically enforced ship restrictions.
Basically, as long as it stay sandbox it's fine, but that's not what you want. You want infinite ships, teleportation to the arena and rule enforce leagues. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:13:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:now I understand, everybody keeps telling me here that all will love arenas and leagues so much that nobody will play anything else in the game anymore and that is a bad thing because you need to have people who play stuff they don't like those people here sure know what gaming is about  Sigh, proving once again you are an idiot. I'll make it as simple as I can.
WE LIKE EVE WE WANT EVE TO STAY SANDBOX YOU WANT EVE TO BE WOW YOU CAN **** OFF
simple enough? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2013.09.12 15:02:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Again a sandbox will allow you to do these options you are talking about, but they will not be implemented the way you'd like them to be, it is against EVE and what a sandbox is meant to be.
you are like a kid telling other kids how they should play in a sandbox... pretty foolish No I am telling one kid, that you can play however you like, and that you can organise what you are complaining about. I disagree |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2013.09.12 15:04:00 -
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Here is also a piece of text off the CCP website, maybe that will help you understand why it won't happen (although that doesn't mean you can not do it, that is the beauty of a sandbox)
"The setting is Science Fiction, whereas most current offerings are Fantasy based. EVE does not employ sharding* or instancing** to split content and resources between players. This means that all players can interact with each other if they choose to do so. It also means that if you are famous in EVE, you are known by the EVE community, not by the population of one game server."
So an off limit arena would not happen, but again as mentioned this does not stop you from creating a league or arena type play somewhere in the game.
As many have said before, the tools are there for you to do so. I disagree |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.09.12 15:07:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:now I understand, everybody keeps telling me here that all will love arenas and leagues so much that nobody will play anything else in the game anymore and that is a bad thing because you need to have people who play stuff they don't like those people here sure know what gaming is about 
Hey you still want that 1 v 1 or are you still a coward? |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
349
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:04:00 -
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Harry Forever, king of the trolls, dung-collector of the 4 realms, protector of nothing. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
761
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:23:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Harry Forever, king of the trolls, dung-collector of the 4 realms, protector of nothing.
William Walker, CFC member 6843 ... |

Navigation Boy
Decadent Behavior Reaper's Grin
3
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:13:00 -
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I'm not actually understanding the comparison to real world sports.
1: In the real world, you pay out of pocket so that you can be trained as a noob. Sometimes your parents or community will foot the bill as an investment in your future.
2: Eventually, as you get better, someone might see value in paying you to train and play, and pay for it for purely selfish reasons. You are now 'worth your keep', so to speak.
3: And eventually, if you get really really good, you make far more than a normal living, and someone pays for you to use equipment of extremely high quality. Everything is handled for you. All you have to do is play, but you are expected to perform at a very high level.
It's not different in Eve right now. All these steps exist in Eve on the live server.
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Jureth22
Homeworld Republic The East India Co.
131
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:36:00 -
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+ 1 |
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
241
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:39:00 -
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Closed arenas are just stupid. If you want an arena, get contro of a system and invite people to fight somewhere in that system, with YOU providing the security for it to go uninterrupted.
Any kind of AT-bubble in a seperate system is everything Eve does not need. You want fair fights? Then go and secure an area, and make some money lose for prizes. Needless to say there'd be immediately a BLOPS in your tournament area if your security sucks. Now actively requesting any faction / new faction willing to produce these:-áhttp://eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Vanir%20Federation%20Talos-á |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
131
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:45:00 -
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Introduce Duel Bubbles, only can hold people in the "Pocket" while duel is accepted everyone else can free warp in and out. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:50:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Closed arenas are just stupid. If you want an arena, get contro of a system and invite people to fight somewhere in that system, with YOU providing the security for it to go uninterrupted.
Any kind of AT-bubble in a seperate system is everything Eve does not need. You want fair fights? Then go and secure an area, and make some money lose for prizes. Needless to say there'd be immediately a BLOPS in your tournament area if your security sucks.
On second thought: Just go over to Singularity, there you can lose all you want :D People are testing their EFT-results out there oftenly anyways to confirm thoughts about tank/damage/application/mobility, for exactly the lack of consequences.
I don't want to organize events I want to play in them, does tiger woods organize events? nope he's just playing
thanks for understanding, the client should take care of this ... |

Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
242
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Posted - 2013.09.15 11:00:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:Closed arenas are just stupid. If you want an arena, get contro of a system and invite people to fight somewhere in that system, with YOU providing the security for it to go uninterrupted.
Any kind of AT-bubble in a seperate system is everything Eve does not need. You want fair fights? Then go and secure an area, and make some money lose for prizes. Needless to say there'd be immediately a BLOPS in your tournament area if your security sucks.
On second thought: Just go over to Singularity, there you can lose all you want :D People are testing their EFT-results out there oftenly anyways to confirm thoughts about tank/damage/application/mobility, for exactly the lack of consequences. I don't want to organize events I want to play in them, does tiger woods organize events? nope he's just playing thanks for understanding, the client should take care of this
I understand you pretty well. Go to Singularity, it's exactly what you want. Thanks for reading. Now actively requesting any faction / new faction willing to produce these:-áhttp://eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Vanir%20Federation%20Talos-á |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:22:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:Closed arenas are just stupid. If you want an arena, get contro of a system and invite people to fight somewhere in that system, with YOU providing the security for it to go uninterrupted.
Any kind of AT-bubble in a seperate system is everything Eve does not need. You want fair fights? Then go and secure an area, and make some money lose for prizes. Needless to say there'd be immediately a BLOPS in your tournament area if your security sucks.
On second thought: Just go over to Singularity, there you can lose all you want :D People are testing their EFT-results out there oftenly anyways to confirm thoughts about tank/damage/application/mobility, for exactly the lack of consequences. I don't want to organize events I want to play in them, does tiger woods organize events? nope he's just playing thanks for understanding, the client should take care of this I understand you pretty well. Go to Singularity, it's exactly what you want. Thanks for reading.
singularity is only a test server, there are no leagues and no arenas there, people just test stuff there
there is no matchup option, understand what I want before you make silly comments... blocked. ... |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:35:00 -
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You just can not listen can you, a sandbox is not a game where everything like that is handed you, that is why WoW would be a lot better for you than EVE.
You are the exact meaning of those "want it now" children of todays age who should never play EVE. I disagree |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:49:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:You just can not listen can you, a sandbox is not a game where everything like that is handed you, that is why WoW would be a lot better for you than EVE.
You are the exact meaning of those "want it now" children of todays age who should never play EVE.
you don't play the game, so who should listen to you... ... |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:04:00 -
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 I disagree |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
763
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Posted - 2013.09.15 17:41:00 -
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every gamer out there doing PvP is demanding this, at the end it will bring a big amount of new players to the game, I'm sure a lot of them will have a better motiviation to move into the metagame while they can have some easy fights each day in the arenas
it would be win win for everybody... at the beginning of the game its just not motivating at all, this is holding back a lot of players who do not come back, the arenas would keep them until they can fully dive into the real deal, SoV fights and all the other stuff
that layer of gamplay is completely missing, thats why a lot of ealry subscribers are lost ... |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
131
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:22:00 -
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I think Harry does have a point, i dont see how an Arena could hurt Eve in any means, just give us one Single System between all 4 major tradehubs with some specified rules (Concordwise) and let them fight each other, ganker still gonna gank, SOV stillg onna claim and Pirates still gonna kill.
Nothing would change ecept for the good.
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