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Flamespar Woof Club 687	Posted - 2013.09.13 05:44:00 - [1] - Quote Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph I know that eve-offline isn't the perfect indicator of where EVE is going. But I am curious as to why this may be the case. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone.
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet 628	Posted - 2013.09.13 05:47:00 - [2] - Quote Flamespar wrote: Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph I know that eve-offline isn't the perfect indicator of where EVE is going. But I am curious as to why this may be the case. Kids back at school or university. Realise that they should bother about RL. CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 504	Posted - 2013.09.13 05:47:00 - [3] - Quote My guess is that it's something that generally happens from update to update. People flow in at first, then some of them go back to RL when new stuff isn't new for them anymore.
baltec1 Bat Country 7986	Posted - 2013.09.13 05:50:00 - [4] - Quote Start of the school/uni/college year.
The Forum Alt Hedion University Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2013.09.13 05:50:00 - [5] - Quote Posting in yet another stealth eve is dying thread. Look at the figures one month after release of the winter expansion to see if there is a downward trend.
Flamespar Woof Club 687	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote Also. Does anyone know if the numbers for TQ on eveoffline include Dust players? I think it does for the newborn player graph. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 4066	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:13:00 - [7] - Quote In addition to "Summer is over" remember that we had a major war. Idle accounts were activated to provide cynosural, extra guns for structure bashing, logistics, whathaveyou. Now that things have quietened down there is no need for that third cyno alt or that second jump freighter pilot. So a few accounts go dark again. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Laserak GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 65	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:18:00 - [8] - Quote Theres a lot of new games out right now, I only login for ops
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1071	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote I don't get it. Every year this topic pops-up again and again. If it's summer on the top part of the globe and subscriptions decline people here say, it because of the summer, people go out, have vacation, enjoy the sun. And when the summer has ended and the subscription numbers decline people say here that it's because schools/work started again. Now what is it?
Jack Chapman I'm in Space 11	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:35:00 - [10] - Quote you are a bit early, it probably is just the usual cycle like the others have said. but it looks like they don't like alts anymore and you can get banned for even telling someone truthfully that you are your own alt. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=search&gmbadge=1 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3609952#post3609952 thatGÇÖs going to put a serious dent in subscriber numbers soon if they keep that change. and especially if they keep claiming that there wasn't even a change. i don't even waste my time with scamming but this is taking away the foundation of everything that eve is and i sure will not resub if they start going down this road like always: eve is dying. only that this time it might actually be true :( btw, dear reading GM: i am in no way associated with the OP or anyone else in this thread or in eve or in the world ever (i guess i need to make this a signature soon)
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1825	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:55:00 - [11] - Quote Houm... Interanual variation is on the positive (we got more PCU than last year in the same dates), so that's OK by a small margin. New born chars are slightly down, though. DUST 514 PCC is steadily going down. Serenity PCU is stable. No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 20728	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:57:00 - [12] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed. Yup, that's what remains to be seen... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1825	Posted - 2013.09.13 06:59:00 - [13] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: No signs for worries about EVE, albeit obviously it could use a clear upward trend, provided the aggressive recruiting campaigns going on. Maybe the Hallellujah Plan will help that as it's revealed. Yup, that's what remains to be seen... hugs keep the faith lil' sister! The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 20728	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:03:00 - [14] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: hugs keep the faith lil' sister! What can I say? Nihilism just isn't my style... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases
Sin Pew Stay Frosty. 240	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:35:00 - [15] - Quote How can you draw any conclusion about subscribtions loss when looking at the online players graph? "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."
Shederov Blood Wrecketeers 467	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:09:00 - [16] - Quote Flamespar wrote: Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph What that graph tells me is that activity drops a bit below average at about this time every year.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16458	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:06:00 - [17] - Quote They probably aren't decreasing GÇö more likely, they're just not increasing at the same rate. We've had a period of pretty steady numbers compared to last year, and back then we had a number of very popular patches that spiked the numbers more than what the normal seasonal behaviour would suggest. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.

CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 4176	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:23:00 - [18] - Quote Historically there's always a dip in numbers around the end of summer and then we've always seen growth leading up to, and following the winter expansion. Numbers have never been higher than post Odyssey ;) CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard

Volitaire 3-Strikes Nulli Secunda 40	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:25:00 - [19] - Quote Let's see do I ** sorority girls or play this ** game
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 946	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:42:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Historically there's always a dip in numbers around the end of summer and then we've always seen growth leading up to, and following the winter expansion. Numbers have never been higher than post Odyssey ;) I actually just want to say thanks for the response, not many companies would just tell their customers stuff like this as it requires a certain level of trust that people wont over react. That's why it's a shame that EVE is clearly dying. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Bruce Kemp Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:44:00 - [21] - Quote Lors Dornick wrote: Flamespar wrote: Got bored and looked at eve-offline.net It seems that activity on tranquility is declining again if you look at the "all time" graph I know that eve-offline isn't the perfect indicator of where EVE is going. But I am curious as to why this may be the case. Kids back at school or university. Now our kids are back to school i'm more active.
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 565	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:44:00 - [22] - Quote Perhaps actually showing what the winter expansion will be could boost your sales :D G££ <= Me
Ammzi Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 1456	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:50:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Historically there's always a dip in numbers around the end of summer and then we've always seen growth leading up to, and following the winter expansion. Numbers have never been higher than post Odyssey ;) I hope they dip to 0, until you fix this TOS horsecrap. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Baggo Hammers 110	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:52:00 - [24] - Quote Eve is dying. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 1229	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:21:00 - [25] - Quote The bigger question is, and I don't think CCP has the number, is the sub base growing in depth or breadth? I think one of the only real in-game indicators for that would be to examine a snapshot of the amount of people posting in the rookie channels today. and compare that to a year ago. Frankly, I am hoping it is in depth, and the new outside people CCP are bringing in will slap some null sec dev's upside the head, and start reversing the damage done to the majority of the player base for the benefit of the small group of null sec cartel leaders. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 165	Posted - 2013.09.13 17:49:00 - [26] - Quote Volitaire wrote: Let's see do I ** sorority girls or play this ** game or the best of both worlds, sorority girls named eve that play eve online.
Loed Kane Viziam Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2013.09.25 09:54:00 - [27] - Quote eve is not dying this happens all the time, the threads always pop up. wait tell winter break when wars break out and battles happen. Im looking for a corp! click here to see what im looking for!https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=279841Follow me on Twitter @loedkanex
EvEa Deva State War Academy Caldari State 368	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:14:00 - [28] - Quote Volitaire wrote: Let's see do I ** sorority girls or play this ** game you play eve
Jessi Burns Apple Moon Industries 0	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:25:00 - [29] - Quote Interesting fact: a couple years ago after quitting wow and feeling depressed about the future of mmos I came to eve's website and looked around. I figured the best way to see if the game was worth buying was to come to general discussion and see how much complaining was going on. I stumbled upon a thread exactly like this one.... 'Eve is dying'. So I figured if the players believe this what is the point of me getting involved in a game like this? 2 years later I greatly regret not starting eve earlier. In other words, fear mongering solves nothing.
Anomaly One State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:46:00 - [30] - Quote Jessi Burns wrote: Interesting fact: a couple years ago after quitting wow and feeling depressed about the future of mmos I came to eve's website and looked around. I figured the best way to see if the game was worth buying was to come to general discussion and see how much complaining was going on. I stumbled upon a thread exactly like this one.... 'Eve is dying'. So I figured if the players believe this what is the point of me getting involved in a game like this? 2 years later I greatly regret not starting eve earlier. In other words, fear mongering solves nothing. In every game there's a bunch of idiots that complain and make it sound so bad (while still continuing to play it) especially if a games lasts a long enough time this is common especially in every general discussion forum you'll find nothing but whine which if read enough can make you stay away from the game without even playing it as is your case and happened to me before. Best thing to do is trying the game out yourself, I know from my experience that reading forums before starting a game has ruined alot of them for me.

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