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Useful Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.30 18:46:00 -
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for me, right now, at this moment
I'm looking at account management, add time and the special of 131.40$ for a whole year in eve at 10.95 a month
this or spending about 5,100,000,00 or more isk
i'm going to really think about this |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
31
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:54:00 -
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Plex prices is going berserk to day  |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
68
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:58:00 -
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The rising price? Is because CCP is pumping trillions of isk in to the economy from wormholes and incursions etc. Demand rises, prices rise. There are a slew of other macro economic factors ofc. But on the whole, people are more affluent than they were three years ago.
Expect that to change when they nerf supers, moons and PI. Although what/if/when they are ever going to acknowledge the pve hegomony of incursions and sleepers remains to be seen. They might just opt to continue punishing everyone else for being 'poor' and 'nobby no mates'.  |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
31
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:08:00 -
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If ccp is cash poor now..... where did they take a wrong turn then ?
I tougth eve online is/was sound and growing.... |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
68
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:11:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:If ccp is cash poor now..... where did they take a wrong turn then ?
I tougth eve online is/was sound and growing....
It is. But unfortunately they have been burning more than they have been earning on WOD and Dust development for some years. They very recently just had to refinance a large loan too, I don't know how that went but I am guessing not well since they have abruptly refocussed everything on their core business - eve. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
57
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:14:00 -
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Holy One wrote:The rising price? Is because CCP is pumping trillions of isk in to the economy from wormholes and incursions etc. Demand rises, prices rise. There are a slew of other macro economic factors ofc. But on the whole, people are more affluent than they were three years ago.
You do realize that not one single ISK has been pumped into the EVE economy through WHs right? WHs are sources of resources which then have to be sold to other players for ISK that already exists in game.
The current ISK faucets are:
1. Incursions
2. Mission Rewards
3. Bounties
4. Insurance
These are the only ways that ISK enters the game (unless there is something I am forgetting which is possible at this time of night.)
I personally think that these ISK faucets desperately need to be re-balanced with the ISK sinks. |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
68
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:16:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Holy One wrote:The rising price? Is because CCP is pumping trillions of isk in to the economy from wormholes and incursions etc. Demand rises, prices rise. There are a slew of other macro economic factors ofc. But on the whole, people are more affluent than they were three years ago.
You do realize that not one single ISK has been pumped into the EVE economy through WHs right? WHs are sources of resources which then have to be sold to other players for ISK that already exists in game. The current ISK faucets are: 1. Incursions 2. Mission Rewards 3. Bounties 4. Insurance These are the only ways that ISK enters the game (unless there is something I am forgetting which is possible at this time of night.) I personally think that these ISK faucets desperately need to be re-balanced with the ISK sinks.
I think its pretty telling that since incursions were introduced, technically in the last expansion, they went from being done in t1 bs to requiring 5bn isk faction bs to even get picked up for a fleet. In what? 3 months? |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
31
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:17:00 -
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So.... why so high plex prices ? |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
68
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:18:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:So.... why so high plex prices ?
Demand. Supply.
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
31
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:23:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Tore Vest wrote:So.... why so high plex prices ? Demand. Supply. Iskflation. Risk free pve, technetium in the former NC space etc. More isk in people's wallets, more demand for 'free' game time. Plex supply remaining consistent, means higher prices.
So.... ppl want more plex then market can give.... got it.
Hmm.... more ppl living on plex then.... ?
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Holy One
SniggWaffe
68
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:25:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:Holy One wrote:Tore Vest wrote:So.... why so high plex prices ? Demand. Supply. Iskflation. Risk free pve, technetium in the former NC space etc. More isk in people's wallets, more demand for 'free' game time. Plex supply remaining consistent, means higher prices. So.... ppl want more plex then market can give.... got it. Hmm.... more ppl living on plex then.... ?
Superficially yeah. But there are plenty of plex in people's hangars, its just that speculators try to control the markets and higher prices are better for them.
And yeah re: WH, true. I guess you could say then that the distribution of wealth has become less acute with access to better ships to ***** pve in. Meaning much higher amounts of isk paid out in bounties and LP's. |
bartos200
DARK ADAMA
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:32:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Holy One wrote:The rising price? Is because CCP is pumping trillions of isk in to the economy from wormholes and incursions etc. Demand rises, prices rise. There are a slew of other macro economic factors ofc. But on the whole, people are more affluent than they were three years ago.
You do realize that not one single ISK has been pumped into the EVE economy through WHs right? WHs are sources of resources which then have to be sold to other players for ISK that already exists in game. The current ISK faucets are: 1. Incursions 2. Mission Rewards 3. Bounties 4. Insurance These are the only ways that ISK enters the game (unless there is something I am forgetting which is possible at this time of night.) I personally think that these ISK faucets desperately need to be re-balanced with the ISK sinks.
i have not done mutch WH but i do know that the sleepers drop loot that is sold to NPC buy orders thus pumping isk in the economy |
DarkAegix
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
198
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:38:00 -
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Back in my days 30mil ISK bought you a PLEX, a moving-picture cinema tick, a ferry across the river, lunch, firewood for the night and a warm set of clothes! |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
31
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:41:00 -
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The way I see it, is that thanks to incursions... ppl have more isk....
Players... after they have bougth 2 or 3 faction bs with multi billion fitting... have nothing else to spend money on.
Noone want to spend isk on a super anymore either.
So.... they buy plex... to live on.
I guess that is ... at least one reason why plex prices are rising. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
57
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:43:00 -
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bartos200 wrote:
i have not done mutch WH but i do know that the sleepers drop loot that is sold to NPC buy orders thus pumping isk in the economy
This is false. |
Azahni Vah'nos
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:18:00 -
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You have to wonder what affect the botters have on the PLEX market as we know they wouldn't be paying a sub. Also unless their whole group was banned then it would be far to easy with one or two accounts left to create another group of botting accounts and PLEX them.
Is botting still prolific in EVE and has CCP taken banning them back a few notches after losing so many subscribers? It would also be some interesting theorycrafting guessing what the PLEX price might be without the botters.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna.
Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
LacLongQuan
Deep Space Expedition.
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:20:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Tore Vest wrote:So.... why so high plex prices ? Demand. Supply. Iskflation. Risk free pve, technetium in the former NC space etc. More isk in people's wallets, more demand for 'free' game time. Plex supply remaining consistent, means higher prices.
^this sums up everything |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:26:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:bartos200 wrote:
i have not done mutch WH but i do know that the sleepers drop loot that is sold to NPC buy orders thus pumping isk in the economy
This is false.
No, this is false. Sleepers drop "tags" that are bought by NPC research corps. For example the "Sleeper Data Libraries" are worth 200k to NPCs, and have no other use ingame. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1072
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:26:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:bartos200 wrote:i have not done mutch WH but i do know that the sleepers drop loot that is sold to NPC buy orders thus pumping isk in the economy This is false. You're being a bit unspecific thereGǪ
Anything that is sold to NPC buy orders is pumping ISK into the economy by very definition.
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lilol' me
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:29:00 -
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Well Plex prices are pretty expensive in Jita, shop around on eve central, there are some that are like 60 mill cheaper... Dont just go to the hubs all the time for example
http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=29668 |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
180
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:57:00 -
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When prices rise there's one or two reasons:
1. More demand
2. Less supply
ad 1) more demand may be caused by:
- people earning less RL money because of the economical crises and wanting to pay with ISk instead of RL cash;
- people getting more ISK in-game because they find ways to earn more ISK/hour;
- people spending less ISK than before so they have a surplus;
ad 2) less supply may be caused by:
- less people buying plex because they have less RL money;
- NEX items may cause plexes to be removed from the market;
and so on.
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wallstreetwhiz
Jita Traders Society
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:43:00 -
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The very recent power-of-two offer has increased demand enough to mess with prices? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
904
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Posted - 2011.10.31 15:29:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Holy One wrote:The rising price? Is because CCP is pumping trillions of isk in to the economy from wormholes and incursions etc. Demand rises, prices rise. There are a slew of other macro economic factors ofc. But on the whole, people are more affluent than they were three years ago.
You do realize that not one single ISK has been pumped into the EVE economy through WHs right? WHs are sources of resources which then have to be sold to other players for ISK that already exists in game. The current ISK faucets are: 1. Incursions 2. Mission Rewards 3. Bounties 4. Insurance These are the only ways that ISK enters the game (unless there is something I am forgetting which is possible at this time of night.) I personally think that these ISK faucets desperately need to be re-balanced with the ISK sinks.
Untrue. There are NPC buyers for the sleeper data libraries, and they pay quite a lot too.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Amro One
One.
15
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:11:00 -
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I am sure RMTer are smiling now. |
Shaidar Hussan
Uncontrollable Violence
Rage Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:29:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:The way I see it, is that thanks to incursions... ppl have more isk....
Players... after they have bougth 2 or 3 faction bs with multi billion fitting... have nothing else to spend money on.
Noone want to spend isk on a super anymore either.
So.... they buy plex... to live on.
I guess that is ... at least one reason why plex prices are rising.
This, incursions are (almost) risk free and generate very large amounts of ISK. The only risk in incursions is griefers and bad fleets, and thanks to channels like BTL they are avoidable. Zero risk ISK generation shouldn't be that simple in this game.
I don't know of anyone that runs incursions and doesn't plex their account. Looking at Jita plex is 450m now, when I ran incursions I could earn that in a single night easily. If you're an incursion runner, you aren't going to be losing ships, so what else would you spend it on? You can easily spend a few days running incursions, plex all your accounts and still have money left over to buy ships for your PvP toon.
Solution: Gimp the crap out of people earning money in high sec. They go into WHs, or into low/null sec, and their money is spent on replacing their ships rather than buying plex. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1088
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:35:00 -
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Amro One wrote:I am sure RMTer are smiling now.
Why would they smile at increased competition?
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
40
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:45:00 -
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Amro One wrote:I am sure RMTer are smiling now.
Doing a quick google search about that-which-should-never-be-done: RMT ISK sells for about 60-75% of a PLEX. Having the price of PLEX go up is only a good thing, because RMT will be even less profitable. PLEX functions as a hard RMT price cap.
I haven't bought any PLEX yet, but if it goes up higher, I'd definitely consider it. |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
72
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:16:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Back in my days 30mil ISK bought you a PLEX, a moving-picture cinema tick, a ferry across the river, lunch, firewood for the night and a warm set of clothes!
Back in my day. The world was yours. |
SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
14
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:20:00 -
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I thought CCP has been actively seeking a viable ISK sink.
I don't see how rising PLEX prices are a bad solution to their problem. |
Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2011.10.31 21:25:00 -
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SilentSkills wrote:I thought CCP has been actively seeking a viable ISK sink.
I don't see how rising PLEX prices are a bad solution to their problem.
Apart from taxes paid, PLEX sales sink no ISK. ISK is just transfered from the buyer to the seller. |
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