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Ashido	Posted - 2006.02.11 01:06:00 - [61] Well i'm glad i've found this thread, had tried everything I could possibly think of, from changing gfx windows size in bios to fiddling with every possible setting and changing lots of drivers time and time again. Just sitting ere in space and chatting in corp chat and getting huge 'spikes' cpu usage drops to 2/3% and avail mem dips to under 30m. Minimising the window and resizing will 'recover' mem back to around 100m, but it doesnt take long to dip. I already use the sysinternals Process Explorer as the infinatly better alt to task manager. Stats Info avail at this point - Eve running for just over 4 hours, mainly idling after 1st hour or so. 512meg AMD 2500xp Private bytes - 453308k Virtual Size - 1777976k Peak Private Bytes - 459468k Working Set - 233108k Peak Working Set - 386576k Page Faults - 4530799 DEP Status - <unknown> With TS/IRC and usual **** running, something aint right when EvE is on a eat all u can. I'll try the pair of 'fixes' one by one and report back to show any comparison/improvement.
Ashido	Posted - 2006.02.11 01:59:00 - [62] Number 1 - Data Execution Protection Acitivated this as instructed and rebooted. First thing I noticed, thought what I seen before was normal. Instead of there being 200meg free according to my taskbar mem stats, there was only 20ish (panic) and this increased slowly (reverse of previous) Oki so EvE aint been runnning a long time 30 odd minutes, but it does seem more stable, tomorrow will be a gd test for DEP on my pc anyway. Stats around 30 mins ish are 512meg AMD 2500xp Private bytes - 173892k (-279416) Virtual Size - 1448964k (-329012) Peak Private Bytes - 183640k (-275828) Working Set - 75144k (-157964) Peak Working Set - 205408k (-4325391) Page Faults - 132742 (n/a) DEP Status - <unknown> same but Blue Framework is excluded All promising, holding fps etc. Will try out all day tommoz b4 i step to .NET frame V2 if still issues. But atm i'm confident (no avail mem fluctuation when u minimise eve and restore) this is better/different/can't be any worse...
Lebowske	Posted - 2006.02.11 11:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Lividicus It says on ATis website that you MUST have .net framework installed to properly utilize their drivers. Version 2.0 is the most up to date version of this, and is available through windowsupdate for free. https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=293 -ATI recommends Windows XP Service Pack 2 or higher to be installed. -You must have Microsoft .NET Framework installed prior to downloading and installing the Catalyst Control Center People - let me clear up one thing regarding ATI, .NET and the drivers. You do NOT need .NET for the drivers. You DO need .NET for the ATI Control Center. The Control enter is a CPU/Memory hog - if you download the drivers from ATI, download the kit without the Control Center - and you'll feel much better. As for what it's worth - Im using ATI X800, AMD 3000+, 1 GB Mem, and not the Control Center - and not seen any memory leak problems except in 1 situation. Left two eve-clients running over night on a single computer, docked at a station and the clients felt like pigs the monring after. Had to reboot to clear the memory/swap. As for the DEP/ATI Control Center - yeah - it seems like you guys are finding something that could be the cause for much of the problems other people are experiencing. -------------------- - Lebowski -- I, the royal we, you know, the editorial --
BigHurley	Posted - 2006.02.11 15:02:00 - [64] whell my problem is that every time i play eve my hole pc craches i have tried the .net 1.1 and 2.0 downloaded new drivers from asus etc. it still craces without an error and when i start up again i get a window from windows saying they are working at it but dont say what the problem is. ive chekt my memory and my video kard and didn't found anything wrong. my specs are: winXP pro asus a7v600-x 1024 ddr 400Mhz amd sempron 2800+ ex850XT PE (agp 8x) can anybode help me with my problem cause im kind of stuck here. tnx.
Ashido	Posted - 2006.02.11 18:19:00 - [65] Edited by: Ashido on 11/02/2006 18:25:48 Edited by: Ashido on 11/02/2006 18:25:22 Do you get info in your game logs ?? Is sound enabled or not? Tried to re-install incase of corruption? DX9 all good ? System clean of spy/viri ? Many permutations... Similar to this ? http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=182
Ashido	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:20:00 - [66] Here's the results, EvE seemed more solid, only neg thing I noticed was that a got a bit of gfx smear from my TSO display that I didnt have b4. 512meg AMD 2500xp 4 hours running b4 and after DEP adjust Private bytes-------- 453308----243892----(209meg down) Virtual Size--------- 1777976----1581860--(196meg down) Peak Private Bytes-- 459468----245496---(214meg down) Working Set---------- 233108----218696---(14meg down) Peak Working Set---- 386576----268536---(118meg down) Page Faults---------- 4530799----2809979--(1720820 faults down) DEP Status------------ Default----ON but EvE.exe excluded Gonna keep this setting in for next few days as this is a major improvement to my gaming
Valectra	Posted - 2006.02.12 01:51:00 - [67] Edited by: Valectra on 12/02/2006 01:52:32 once in game: Try CNTRL ALT SHIFT M goto settings tab and deselect the memory option.. do A reboot and try again... i did this and the memory leak stopped
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.02.12 02:20:00 - [68] I did the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+M memory option, disabled DEP for CCP Blue Framework in system settings, and increased buffersize in prefs.ini to 1024 (half my RAM in megs). And remarkably, I managed to get over 3 hours of gameplay without a crash to reboot. For the first time in two weeks, I managed to log out of EVE at the end of an uninterrupted session, normally. By the way, I checked and it seems I don't have .NET Framework installed at all. Not even v1.1. Reason being, it doesn't come as standard on many XP installs, and I have no ATI devices (pure nVidia machine). I'll see how things go from here, hopefully there will be no need to install .NET v2. Hegemonising Swarm Objects / von Neumann Probes
Noctoc	Posted - 2006.02.12 05:47:00 - [69] .Net has no effect on EVE. EVE doesn't use it, and the ATi drivers can run without the control pannel installed (therefore no need for .Net) Originally by: Guillight BLue >>Remember that you need a legal copy of Windows XP Professional (or home edition) to be able to download software / driver updates! Microsoft tightend their security and illegal copies can only download security updates! (I had to buy a legal copy myself last summer ) There's this evil haX0r program in Windows XP called Automatic Updates that downloads all the Micro$oft goodies for you (Yes even .Net v2). But thats naughty boys and girls so don't do it. ========================= Due to lack of funds the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
Ranathon	Posted - 2006.02.12 11:47:00 - [70] .net is not an auto-update as has been pointed out before, you have to choose custom update,and manually choose .net... I have tried all bar the ctrl-alt-shft-m, trying that now, will report back later... Booty Lover and Cat Person
Noctoc	Posted - 2006.02.12 19:37:00 - [71] Disableing DEP has slowed down the problem for me a bit, I'm upto 4 hours now before it starts hitting the swap file. Originally by: Ranathon .net is not an auto-update as has been pointed out before, you have to choose custom update,and manually choose .net... It can be downloaded with auto update, but you install it manually. auto-update just gets round the stupid check on the M$ web site. Due to lack of funds the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
KaReL Lightyear	Posted - 2006.02.12 22:53:00 - [72] Hi, Running WinXP Prof. On AMD Sempron. With GeForceTi4200. Eve client is leaking (also have installed all .NET frameworks - as I have to work with Visual Studio). Greetz
Stormwarden	Posted - 2006.02.12 23:34:00 - [73] Edited by: Stormwarden on 12/02/2006 23:35:15
Ranathon	Posted - 2006.02.12 23:46:00 - [74] Originally by: Valectra Edited by: Valectra on 12/02/2006 01:52:32 once in game: Try CNTRL ALT SHIFT M goto settings tab and deselect the memory option.. do A reboot and try again... i did this and the memory leak stopped Not sure if it was this, but i did about 4 hours running 2 accounts, and it LOOKS like my mem look is fixed (or just down to a dribble ) Will see how it goes 2morow night... Booty Lover and Cat Person
Edu Journeyman	Posted - 2006.02.24 15:13:00 - [75] Yeah, disabling that DEP - Data execution prevention - almost solved all my problems. As I said, memory leaks stills in eve.exe, but now I can play for 10 to 12 hours without restarting the game. And my computer only have 512 MB RAM. I only want to thank all the people that posted in the thread to help us. It's a pleasure to see that my advice worked for other too.

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