they aren't even playing the game.

Out of context quoting means you're cool.

Oh, and I give a hoot because I am tired of all the complaining from someone who didn't even bother to attempt to defend themselves, how I shouldn't have been able to kill them in the first place. Last I checked, I didn't sign up for Hello Kitty Online Adventure.

We are. Every time you guys put up that wall, it becomes easier to break down, and every time, more people learn the options and tools they have at their disposal to get out of their self-imposed victimhood.

Empowering other players to actually understand and play the game is always fun.

They forgo thier right to complain if the make no attempt to defend themselves.

No, the GÇ£victimhoodGÇ¥ is deliberately chosen by the miners in their decision not to learn how the game works, not to learn the tools at their disposal, and not to adopt any kind of security strategies. The supposed solitude is just one rejection of those tools, but that still leaves an entire box full of them.

GǪin fact, if they chose solitude, specifically, rather than just ignoring the whole multiplayer bit of of the MMO, they would no longer be victims.

If making money is that pointless, what are the miners themselves doing in the belts?

You can choose to protect your assets, or you can choose not to. If you don't choose to, then it's hard to feel much sympathy when you lose said assets.

Many New Order gankers I know .........

GǪand then people wonder why I, as a highsec industrialist, want to see nullsec industry moved to nullsec and highsec ganking made easier.

Good girls don't kiss and tell. Lets just say, there are entirely too many people who will happily sell a miner a new Retriever on one char, then gank it on the other.

I mean, why not do it? There's no secret miner code. It's not like the Brotherhood of Industrialists will take away blueprints. Hell, a huge, huge chunk of our intel comes from other miners diming people out.

"Hey man, saw you were operating in the area. Could you come over and gank Miner X. I want him out of this roid belt so I can get the good ore. Kthnx BFF 4lyfe."

I don't drink coffee.
So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.

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So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.

She doesn't care about your argument...

So apparently, miners are bullies too. After all, they habitually use threats and coercion to try to impose domination over others, and are of the perception that they are in an imbalanced position of strength in terms of social power. Fancy that.

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GǪneither of which are in the same genre as EVE, and neither of which offer any of EVE's main selling points.