Ancient topic, and no, we should not.

That's like saying "I didn't do any uni work, but can I have that masters degree anyway?"

No.

Why not do away with the skill queue and learning implants altogether with this idea? Have each account train a character x amount of sp an hour. Then apply that sp to a skill you have injected.
You could then even extend this out, make sp sellable for isk. If you have a character who you dont need to train anything on, you convert the sp into tokens, say one days skill train worth. Make the token a sellable item on the market. You can already buy all the sp you want on the character bazaar.

So basically people wouldn't even have to log on and stay docked to train? Bad idea is really, really bad.

So basically people wouldn't even have to log on and stay docked to train? Bad idea is really, really bad.

'default attributes'

So I can minmax my attributes, and when the min will make things bad for me, I can just let them build up, without actively training, then apply them, making a 'profit' over what I would have earned?

Nope.

Just make it give you buffer SP based on your current lowest attributes and no implant bonus. You are still at a lost compared to having a skill with optimised attributes for training but being AFK for extended period of time you could not plan for is less of a loss. THat way you can't magically gain SP to dump into skill you don;t have the good attributes for at an accelerated rate.

Settings skills means commitment to training those skills, means paying for skillbooks, means earning for those skillbooks. You want to have more trained character just buy it.

Can I please have a day's worth of plex-running in ISK too for when I'm not only too lazybusy to login and check my queue, but too lazybusy to login and rat as well?

Thanks much.

-Derp

I've thought about this idea as well, since I have a weird travel schedule and am often away from a pc for a weekend, week or month at a time. This makes it hard to stick to a good skill plan as I have an excellent chance of not being at a PC on the day I need to change out a long skill train. I don't like losing out on game skills for RL happenings. Training some long skill I don't even want just to have SOMETHING training while I'm gone sucks too.

So even a "accrue skill points at min stat level" when you're queue runs out would be a bonus for someone like me. It would always be better to actively manage your queue and stats, but in the event you couldn't then the downside would not be as bad.

However in a broader game design sense, I can see that promoting "I don't even have to log in" behavior would ultimately be bad for an MMO. You want to keep your players engaged and in the game as much as possible. So the short term benefit of allowing sp accrual could lead to a longer term negative of people who do that so often that they lose touch with the game and just unsub. I think this was the original debate over having the 24 hr skill queue in the first place. I think that worked out rather well and the fears on that score did not pan out.

All that being said it may be best to allow sp accrual at the minimum possible rate to cap out after a months worth of sp. This gives enough of a buffer for people who truly have hosed schedules, while limiting the farming up of mega unspent point characters for sale. 1 month being the natural subscription time anyway.

>> Of course, what I REALLY want that would make all of this moot is a phone app that lets me change my skill queue from anywhere. <<

That's like saying you want your passive income to only work when you're logged in.

Go home.

No it isn't, it's quite literally the opposite.

I want my cake, I want to eat it too, and I want it served up on a platter when I'm too lazy to go and fetch it myself.

*insert sarcasm smiley for the slow-witted*

However in a broader game design sense, I can see that promoting "I don't even have to log in" behavior would ultimately be bad for an MMO. You want to keep your players engaged and in the game as much as possible. So the short term benefit of allowing sp accrual could lead to a longer term negative of people who do that so often that they lose touch with the game and just unsub. I think this was the original debate over having the 24 hr skill queue in the first place. I think that worked out rather well and the fears on that score did not pan out.

To be linear... if we pay for 30 days of game time, we should have 30 days of