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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:21:00 -
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Well last Friday there was mining operation for the corp. I have missed. I was travelling in 0.0 space when director called Stratego open a chat demanding me to go mine in an arrogant tone, like if I was his toddler. I ignored his demands and his manners and proceed to my destination and started npc farming. Which is far more interesting to corp then having me mining with my lvl 2 mining skills.
On the next day I had all my rights cancelled. I ask for an explanation no one replied. So I asked for a transfer to another BOB corporation.
Today I connect and find that I was kicked out Reikoku. No mail, no chat with a neutral director, no warning. No respect.
Being in Reikoku for only two months, having 44 kills, paid in taxes to the corporation over 40 mil isk in the last two weeks, participate in the killing of the first carrier in Eve (an ebil ship). Isn't a bad performance, specially if you take under consideration that I am married, kids, very demanding profession and play from 15 to 20 hours per week.
I believed I was secure inside Reikoku. I never though an arrogant director with rude manners would be allowed to act like this in behalf of the corporation.
This is the way some corporations are taking care of their internal affairs showing that members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together.
        
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:22:00 -
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Wow kicked out for not mining, who woulda thought?
/me glances at kyle and ben
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:23:00 -
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Just do what i did, never train mining over lvl 1 
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |

Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh Wow kicked out for not mining, who woulda thought?
/me glances at kyle and ben
I mined. I have the logs to prove it. Stressed out with empire politics?
Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind. |

ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:26:00 -
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First of all we don't realy care and you should talk to a higher RKK member instead of posting here... doing this is probably worse and you'll never get back 
Hmmm....
For some reason I have mining lvl 2... now when did I train it to 2?
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:26:00 -
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so you are whinging about not being able to do your own thing when the corp has a corp mining op?
If it was shinra you would have been out like a sack of potatoes aswell...
/me looks at his ingame title 
Give miners a log off timer
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:27:00 -
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Its theyr corp, and theyr rules. You just make look bad not RKK, but yourself. ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |

Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:27:00 -
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Reikoku suck anyway. They did you a big favour, trust me.
Now go have fun.
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hazeb
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:29:00 -
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Being the person in change of corp policy I have this official statement.
BOOFRECKINGWOOO
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:29:00 -
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LOL, Reikoku is a teamwork corp based on dictatorship, as are most dedicated PvP corps. You do what is expected of you, and not what you feel like doing. My corp is the same way, and you'd have gotten kicked out for that kind of crap here too. Sounds to me like RKK is better off without you, tbh, as you don't sound like much of a team player. ----------
Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |

dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:30:00 -
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Bla bla bla. You were here, you refused to join a corporation operation which was mandatory. Well, kick. It's our corp, our policy our rules. You just weren't rkk material, and you just prove it again by whining over eve-online forums to make us look bad.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud Well last Friday there was mining operation for the corp. I have missed. I was travelling in 0.0 space when director called Stratego open a chat demanding me to go mine in an arrogant tone, like if I was his toddler. I ignored his demands and his manners and proceed to my destination and started npc farming. Which is far more interesting to corp then having me mining with my lvl 2 mining skills.
On the next day I had all my rights cancelled. I ask for an explanation no one replied. So I asked for a transfer to another BOB corporation.
Today I connect and find that I was kicked out Reikoku. No mail, no chat with a neutral director, no warning. No respect.
Being in Reikoku for only two months, having 44 kills, paid in taxes to the corporation over 40 mil isk in the last two weeks, participate in the killing of the first carrier in Eve (an ebil ship). Isn't a bad performance, specially if you take under consideration that I am married, kids, very demanding profession and play from 15 to 20 hours per week.
I believed I was secure inside Reikoku. I never though an arrogant director with rude manners would be allowed to act like this in behalf of the corporation.
This is the way some corporations are taking care of their internal affairs showing that members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together.
        
I don't know the details of why you were dismissed. But your posting here makes me think it was the right decision.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:31:00 -
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/me pets his mining 5, astrogeology 5, barge 5 alt  ----------------------
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Galavet Good call on this one haze.

Not surprised. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud So I asked for a transfer to another BOB corporation.
In advance, Evolution says no.
I recommend you speak to Galavet. If he doesn't talk to you, I won't be surprised.
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-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Galavet
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:32:00 -
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Good call on this one haze.
Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO |

Calamity Jane
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:33:00 -
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Members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together. This tends to get worse as bigger as the corp gets.
LOL There aren¦t no more pvp alliances.
I have seen it all... |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:33:00 -
[18]
Teamplay sometimes means its more important to be there with the rest of your team then to be maybe making more isk somewhere else but on your own, even if you intend the isk for the corp.
There's more to it then taxes. I could see how that would be assumed to be a required understanding that comes naturally.
Don't know the specifics, but hey, I always post anyway. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Sochin
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud director called Stratego open a chat demanding me to go mine in an arrogant tone, like if I was his toddler. I ignored his demands.
Important parts quoted. Reikoku is not a "run around and do what you want" corp. It is a military organization where everyone works together to accomplish goals. If you want to ignore the directors and npc hunt during one of the EXTREMELY RARE mining ops, go somewhere else.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:37:00 -
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Who are you?
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL13) Knight |

Stratosfear
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:38:00 -
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You can't eat cake and have it too.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:39:00 -
[22]
OMG Coaster you whorum fore! You even beat us to this topic 
-Druid
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:40:00 -
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You didn't "request a transfer", you just applied to another corp in BoB. Strangely enough, when ANY corp in BoB does a corp mining op, attendance is mandatory, so we're not quite sure what you were gonna achieve.
Best of luck to you in the future, for your reference I was the RKK Director that kicked you - any complaints or disagreements can be taken up with me in-game.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:46:00 -
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This mean that I am no longer wellcome in B0B? 
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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Necronom
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:47:00 -
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lol @ post.
Okay so you disobeyed a direct order from a director. Did your own thing during a mandatory corp activity. Then after being kicked rather than apologizing and taking it up with Galavet you ***** on eve-o. Hmmm, how you got into rkk in the first place is beyond me. Dian made the right choice here...
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud
This mean that I am no longer wellcome in B0B? 
I suppose... Urnogoud for BoB anymore 
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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Iznogoud on 16/01/2006 22:52:37
Bad boy! 
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:52:00 -
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:55:00 -
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So you are not welcome to our little mining conventions. You are not welcome to MINING convetions, that has to be real bad man  ----------------------
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Stratego
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:57:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Iznogoud Well last Friday there was mining operation for the corp. I have missed. I was travelling in 0.0 space when director called Stratego open a chat demanding me to go mine in an arrogant tone, like if I was his toddler. I ignored his demands and his manners and proceed to my destination and started npc farming. Which is far more interesting to corp then having me mining with my lvl 2 mining skills.
On the next day I had all my rights cancelled. I ask for an explanation no one replied. So I asked for a transfer to another BOB corporation.
Today I connect and find that I was kicked out Reikoku. No mail, no chat with a neutral director, no warning. No respect.
Being in Reikoku for only two months, having 44 kills, paid in taxes to the corporation over 40 mil isk in the last two weeks, participate in the killing of the first carrier in Eve (an ebil ship). Isn't a bad performance, specially if you take under consideration that I am married, kids, very demanding profession and play from 15 to 20 hours per week.
I believed I was secure inside Reikoku. I never though an arrogant director with rude manners would be allowed to act like this in behalf of the corporation.
This is the way some corporations are taking care of their internal affairs showing that members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together.
        
If you have a problem with me convo me, dont bring it to forums.
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BOB are BOB 5 are BOB and together we make BOOBIE5. |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:59:00 -
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From the outside looking in...
You know, generally the reason most corps have mining ops is because they need ore, not isk. If it were an "isk raising exercise" then people should probably be allowed to do it in the most efficient way they can (mining high-ends all day, non-stop complex whoring with 100% bounties + loot to corp, etc). As BOB have made it perfectly clear that they are going to mine for capital ships, giving the corp 30m isk and saying "I made this from ratting because my mining skills suck" isn't actually very helpful to the cause.
In future, train Mining to 4 and Mining Drones to 1. It takes less than a days training combined, and you can now use miner IIs and mining drones (the standard t1 drones have enough space for high-end ore too). Who cares if you don't pull in that much ore - the point is you are pulling in some ore, which is what the corp usually needs when they call a mining op.
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Haematite
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:04:00 -
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Im also a father of two married and all that, dont have many mining skill's, but can fly defence and scout etc.
Corp opps are manditory, and how else is the corp ment to supply ALL the T2 ship's and Modules that is does at prices way below market price.
Look after your corp and your corp will look after you, that my opinion of it.
/me goes of to fly my cheap hacs and inty's -----
Our Enemy call us GM's, they are not wrong, we are Masters of our Game. |

Morning Dawn
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:05:00 -
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If you miss the mining sessions you are wellcome to join us.
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:05:00 -
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You chose to ignore a director trying to get you to a mandatory op. Plenty of notice was given so your could trained mining to 4 easily takes 30 hours, or even volenteered to tank the spawns.
Not a team player = bye simple as. Its abundantly clear when you join that this is the case.
GL in the future, i look forward to hearing your name being called as primary target. 
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Haematite Im also a father of two married and all that, dont have many mining skill's, but can fly defence and scout etc.
Corp opps are manditory, and how else is the corp ment to supply ALL the T2 ship's and Modules that is does at prices way below market price.
Look after your corp and your corp will look after you, that my opinion of it.
/me goes of to fly my cheap hacs and inty's
Yeah
/me pets his 60ish mil zealot ----------------------
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:08:00 -
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See Blacklight I told you RKK's recruitment was messed up.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:11:00 -
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Having fun hauling in Big Noobie Corp's uber carebear division are we Rohann? 
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL13) Knight |

reaTh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:11:00 -
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lies rkk dont mine ps rohann u carebear  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current RKK Ranking: (MIN9) Zuvan |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rohann See Blacklight I told you RKK's recruitment was messed up.
See, Galavet, I told you Rohann would pipe up :p
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:14:00 -
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dont join a mining..err corp that mines.. if you dont want to mine (couldnt resist :p)
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful |

Rohann
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Having fun hauling in Big Noobie Corp's uber carebear division are we Rohann? 
Mining Foreman Lvl 5 in 6d 12h
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:16:00 -
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Pvp¦ers shouldnt mine at all they should just kill
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Sivona
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:19:00 -
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This should be a glowing example of what not to do 
First every corp chooses how it runs itself, if you dont like how it runs your probably not in the right place, but as a rule communication is key if you choose to ignore an order and make no effort to communicate how you feel you could offer the corp a better service to either the director or ceo then dont feel surprised to get teh boot and really..and this is critical its a) Poor Form b) Very stupid, to post your disastisfaction on the eve-o boards any chance you had of working things out RKK just disappeared
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:28:00 -
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This thread made me laugh :F
The OP just attached a big 'do not recruit me' sign to his forehead ..
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:32:00 -
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soo, your free to come mine for us instead. :)
"We brake for nobody"
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Smith
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:33:00 -
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Missing Corp op + Ignoring to help + NPC farming = Kick.
Im pretty sure if someone in my corp were to say no to a fleet op without good cause we would probably be podded and booted back to empire.
I like you love to PvP but even I know you gotta do some donkey jobs now and again to keep the PvP machine going.
Thanks for letting me say my peace.
Smith.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:36:00 -
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Mining yiaks 

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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Iznogoud Well last Friday there was mining operation for the corp. I have missed. I was travelling in 0.0 space when director called Stratego open a chat demanding me to go mine in an arrogant tone, like if I was his toddler. I ignored his demands and his manners and proceed to my destination and started npc farming. Which is far more interesting to corp then having me mining with my lvl 2 mining skills.
On the next day I had all my rights cancelled. I ask for an explanation no one replied. So I asked for a transfer to another BOB corporation.
Today I connect and find that I was kicked out Reikoku. No mail, no chat with a neutral director, no warning. No respect.
Being in Reikoku for only two months, having 44 kills, paid in taxes to the corporation over 40 mil isk in the last two weeks, participate in the killing of the first carrier in Eve (an ebil ship). Isn't a bad performance, specially if you take under consideration that I am married, kids, very demanding profession and play from 15 to 20 hours per week.
I believed I was secure inside Reikoku. I never though an arrogant director with rude manners would be allowed to act like this in behalf of the corporation.
This is the way some corporations are taking care of their internal affairs showing that members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together.
        
WOW! Smooth move coming here and posting...
What were you hoping to accomplish? This isn't exactly a kindergarten setting now is it. What, maybe you thought that the GM mommy would take your hand, walk you over to the BoB mommy; have a few words and play nice again? LMAO 
GL in EvE...
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:42:00 -
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"This is the way some corporations are taking care of their internal affairs showing that members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together."
Mining sucks; and people don't leave their friends alone to do the sucky mining stuff. Especially when everyone is asked to participate, and this request is made long time in advance... leaving enough time to either do something about your skills, or to work out some sort of arrangement with the corp directors beforehand.
I can see how you could see personal NPC farming more desirable thing to do, when just running through the numbers you gave (40 mil tax paid in two weeks, 10% tax, 15-20 hours/week played) ... it appears you were able to pull ~10-15 mil isk per hour of play time in just the rat bounties, nevermind the income from loot sales. But then if personal gain was so much more important that'd you'd leave the supposed friends and corp operation on their own for it... i don't think you have much room to complain about basically being allowed to do your personal things 23/7, now. >>;
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:45:00 -
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Talk to people befor posting and when a corp and alliance asks you to participate for an op you show up. Christ I hate mining,hauling,npcin and the sort but you have to do it for isk and I have yet to meet a player in eve who seriously doesn't need more isk for something.
Ah and Rohaan is going back to his Merchant Marine roots guess Karnov and Femintaki corrupted the poor lad. Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever.
-Aristophane
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:50:00 -
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omg posting that you got kick for not taking orders smart move .even pvp corps need to mine some times i aways join in on mining ops. and when i was not mining for corp i was npcin and giving all my crap loot to corp.
ps.. do i get my cookie now
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:53:00 -
[52]
pps... i would of podded you
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:56:00 -
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Wow not only bob wont take you back but after this post every decent pvp corp wont either.
You are a genius.
- Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius) |

ScoRpS
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:57:00 -
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Iznogoud being so new in corp, u should have perhaps been like, "yes sir 3 bags full sir and would u care for a shoe shine while i'm at it?"
thats what i would have probably said, brownie points ftw 
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Adam C
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:57:00 -
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He was pritty shady when he was in Fury, if he didnt leave he would of got booted.
Goodmove RKK
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:00:00 -
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tbh what did you expect.. being in a high end PVP corp isnt just about killing stuff.. they expect you to work hard for the corp.. in whatever way they need done..
if all you want easy ganks, there are plenty of low sec pirates/low end merc corps
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:02:00 -
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OP has every right to post his thoughts.
Seems to me an RKK director got ****ed that his mining op went **** up and decided to take it out on one of his own members rather than deal with it more rationally.
Time to move on Iznogoud find a better corp, can't be to difficult 
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R'adeh
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:03:00 -
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Well, you were part of a PVP corp. PVP requires teamwork. The team was mining and you weren't, thus you weren't participating in teamwork. See where this is going...
No offense, but I think you're better suited for a different kind of corp.
Ok, back to mining 
"blah blah blah, we killed you, blah blah blah, they killed us, blah blah blah, some more smack, blah blah blah killboard ina..." |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:09:00 -
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The first thing I did when I received your application was convo Dian and find out why you were leaving. Pretty simple decision for me from that point on really.
Not a team player = not suitable.
Pugwash, grow up.
Eve Blacklight Style
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KingAc
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:11:00 -
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Take some Kladdkaka and be happy soo hmmm see its all right now.......
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash OP has every right to post his thoughts.
Seems to me an RKK director got ****ed that his mining op went **** up and decided to take it out on one of his own members rather than deal with it more rationally.
Time to move on Iznogoud find a better corp, can't be to difficult 
Lol. You indeed took out 1 barge. 1 barge out of about 25 mining ships almost undefended at that time. Way to go cap' !
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:13:00 -
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Rules ? what the heck is that ???!? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: smith I like you love to PvP but even I know you gotta do some donkey jobs now and again to keep the PvP machine going.
QFT
Donkey jobs suck. No one likes to do crap like mine and run escort, but you do it becuase it's what the corp needs. When my alliance mates help do crap that we all hate to do, because it needs doing and it benefits the corp/alliance, it tells me that I can count on them. And having people that you can count on through the bad times as well as the good is what differentiates effective alliances from the trash that gets swept out at the first sign of hostilities.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:18:00 -
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What do you expect Galavet this is the guy who wanted to take on NCA,BoB and PA just to hold onto a bloody little station. Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever.
-Aristophane
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Creyster
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:21:00 -
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YEs iam all in .. if you talk to Chrony he can help you to do som awesome Kladdkaka
Dont forgett to invite BL he havent tased some yet..
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:22:00 -
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OP, plenty of corps around that let you do your own thing.
If you join a corp where teamwork is a requirement, what do you expect? RKK got it right.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Seems to me an RKK director got ****ed that his mining op went **** up and decided to take it out on one of his own members rather than deal with it more rationally.
The director that kicked izno was myself, as previously stated. As for our "mining op going **** up", Pugwash, we lost one barge and, I think (?) one hauler to your tempest.
We then continued to mine for about 3 hours after that and you didn't even TRY to kill any more of us. Did we evolve beyond your limited capabilities?
Anyway, the OP is indeed permitted to post his thoughts - from what your VC forums say, Pugwash, he'd fit right in. You don't like each other either, if my memory serves.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:28:00 -
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I would like to dedicate this song to B B...
LOVE ME TENDER (Elvis Presley)
Love me tender, love me sweet, never let me go. You have made my life complete and I love you so. Love me tender, love me true, all my dreams fulfill. For, my darlin', I love you and I always will.
Love me tender, love me long, take me to your heart. For it's there that I belong and we'll never part. Love me tender, love me true, all my dreams fulfill. For, my darlin', I love you and I always will.
Love me tender, love me dear, tell me you are mine. I'll be yours through all the years till the end of time. Love me tender, love me true, all my dreams fulfill. For, my darlin', I love you and I always will.
WTS 'I B B' T-shirts
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:34:00 -
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I am Stratego's ***** 
Dude, if you don't play as a team, I'm afraid you do not belong with us, simple as.
I can assure you, most if not all of us HATE mining, we loathe it, but it is an integral part of being in one of the best PVP corps/alliances in game. It doesn't take much to give up a few hours/days sacrifice to keep it going for another 6 months does it ?
Silly post to be honest... -
Shrike > BALLS DROPPED IN BELT AvanCade > lol Shrike > that didnt sound good. |

Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:37:00 -
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I believe enough has been said.
All Corps and Alliances have the right to run things as they want too , and all players have the right to agree or not to agree. If you don't agree, discuss it or leave, simple as that really.
However, what you are not open to do - is to discuss it in public here. It's not constructive and as the debate is purely between the Op and his former corp; it's not a subject fit for public discussion.
Take it ingame, please.
Thanks.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:55:00 -
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This thread is highly amusing for a number of reasons and I want to post here about this, however this is a very difficult post to make on a public forum... but I think it's justified.. if probably lengthy.
RKK has a long history in eve. The directors have worked their asses off to take us where we are. When someone new joins the corp, they find out very quickly that we are not like other corporations.
RKK is really split up into sub-sections, directors, old members, new members. New members have an extremely rough deal. They will be ignored, they will be abused, they will be shouted at, they will be left without access to everything for weeks and they will be expected to do everything we ask without question.
I've been here from the beginning and I've seen every single recruit go through the same process (and I really do mean every single recruit). This process isn't a nice one, it's a ****ty in your face struggle to remain above water and not completely detest everyone in the corp. Most people don't even come close to making it and even some of those who do will disappear within 3 months.
However, if you work for RKK what we will do for you is make you one of the best pvp'ers in the game. We supply you with the needs, the skills and the experience to do that. In return we ask for you to give yourself up to anything we ask.
Some people have the mindset to do this, some do not. I feel absolutely no regret nor contempt at people who leave RKK, in fact many of my closest friends in eve are people who have been in RKK and have moved on.
So, to the case in hand.
Orders were put up in the usual place, these were relayed constantly to everyone in the corp who are in the right places to listen. Those who didn't know about them were then instructed to be there for mining or have a very, very good reason not to be.
Every other single person was there in place in some degree. Iznogoud decided that he knew better than the RKK directors. He felt that he had more experience than the directors to judge what they thought was the right move for the corp. When we disagreed, he felt that he had the right to an explanation.
I disagree and I'll explain why.
If Iznogoud feels we are wrong in this instance then what about the next time I ask him to jump into a lag-fest in which I know we will all die? What happens next time when the corp needs to mine for 75 days straught? What happens when we have to camp someone in a station for two weeks, 23/7?
What do you think will happen? Do you think he will have the stomach for it? I don't. If there is any doubt about a member then he simply isn't right for RKK.
In my opinion, to be the best at anything in this life, you need to be pushed, poked and prodded. Iznogoud didn't have the mental capabilities to do that and I have no problem with that at all and hope he goes to find some fun in eve somewhere but he isn't suited to be the best at eve and never will be.
As you can see from this thread, RKK closed ranks and very quickly Iznogoud was dismissed. Those posting here are the experienced members, I don't see any of the new guys into RKK here because they are maybe feeling the same way.
However, I can look at each and every single one of those experienced members in the corp and without a shadow of a doubt, I know that they are amongst the best in eve. I would rather go into a battle with them than anyone else in eve because we have went through hell together, because we have sweated blood and tears over a game and because they have the same mindset as I do.
Iznogoud states that "members are basically minions, neither partners nor friends trying to work together." That is incorrect, I can say without embarrasment that I love the guys in RKK. They are the only reason I play this game and will continue to play it. Without them there is no Eve. We work our asses off together to make RKK number 1 at every area in eve.
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