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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:07:00 -
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Use Aldo's Macro Recorder to automate dragging ore from your cargo hold to a cargo container every 60 seconds or so.
It'll free you up for more important tasks like taking a shower, going to class, or spending a day at the beach.
You just need to make sure that you've got an indy pilot that'll pick up all your ore every so often.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:09:00 -
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I'm just counting the seconds until FLAME ON 
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Thallia
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:11:00 -
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Finally found a smart miner.
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Talak Relketh
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:12:00 -
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*click*
*click*
*click*
It's not working!
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:16:00 -
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Why are you trying to lock this post? I thought that this would be a helpful tool for the community...
What about the poor Amarrian children?
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Talak Relketh
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Talak Relketh on 25/08/2003 00:21:24
Edited by: Talak Relketh on 25/08/2003 00:21:06
Well, dunno if simply discussing a 3rd party program is against one of the many, many forum rules. Just having a little fun 
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:21:00 -
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i remember a news report on eve about using these kinda programs (exploit/cheat)
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:22:00 -
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So TTI members now use macro programs, you really really want the whole community to hate you dont you? I mean eitheer that or your application process is bugged more than the game.
Macro users are the lowest form of online gamers.
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Reluah
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:24:00 -
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i second that, and what sucks more, ccp allowws it :/
so mutch for the hard working peps :/
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:28:00 -
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Quote from the EULA:
(3) You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
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Cruise
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:29:00 -
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Not only that, use of third party programs are an abuse to rules of conduct you agree to when you sign on to play the game. Read rule #7 sometime:
"You will not attempt to reverse engineer, hack or by any other means try to change code or game files nor in any way capture, decipher or interfere with transmissions to or from the game servers nor will you try to create or use any kinds of third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game."
You effectively posted a thread telling everyone to use a third party program/tool.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:31:00 -
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Well, seeing that's its TTI I guess its ok. They are sponsored by CCP.
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:33:00 -
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bah, another TTI post and I thought it was something like an intelligent idea or something.
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ctaesis on 25/08/2003 00:36:24
First of all, eve-i.com contains a server activity monitor which is a third party addon for the game.
Second, the EULA so eloquently quoted states "3) You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."
Since this particular Macro works at the SAME SPEED as a normal human because you can't mine faster, and because it only takes not-so-long to drag and drop anyway, then Aldo's Macro Recorder is perfectly legit under Section 3 of the EULA.
But thanks for trying guys.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: SISQO on 25/08/2003 00:35:38
Ah the days that games got ruined thanks to people power leveling from noob to uber god...
Killed the game for me, yet I said nothing, I joined in, turned on the macro leveled up to max level, woke up the next day and PK'ed everyone I saw repeatedly 
But back on topic, macros for mining should be banned, mining isn't hard, its just boring as hell, if you don't like mining pay others to do it for you.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:36:00 -
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I wonder how many of TTI's miners will get shot at now that people know they're mostly afk...
In fact, all you have to do is ram their container can until it's further than 2km away and their little afk mining trick is ruined.
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ctaesis on 25/08/2003 00:43:35
Ya Josh, that's exactly right. You could do that. Then again, our mining ops are completely defended.
Other than that, the usual TTI-hate on this thread is to be expected. Aldo's Macro Recorder is just something I found this weekend, and thought it'd be useful to share.
@Cruise
"[You may not] use any kinds of third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game."
Do you use a mining ore calculator? Do you use the stats at eve-db.com? Do you use the blueprint mineral lookup lists? Do you use a calculator to compare trade routes? Do you use a pencil and paper to take notes? All of these are 3rd party "addons, extras or tools for the game." Aldo's Macro Recorder is in the same catagory as all of these.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:39:00 -
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You're reading it wrong, Ctaesis.
You can't use macro's.
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:41:00 -
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I think you're not only dumb, but you're stupid aswell, you really need everything written down for you in the EULA or something, you got no ethics or any idealized way of playing. I guess everything has to be explained word by word to make you understand that playing with macros ain't KEWL.
Btw, notice how I don't have question marks on my sentences although some of them look like questions. That's because I don't want you to answer them, as your answers will surely not satisfy me seeing how you play this game...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:41:00 -
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Ya Josh, that's exactly right. You could do that. Then again, our mining ops are completely defended.
Poor SI - demoted to ore guardians now?
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:41:00 -
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Quote:
You will not attempt to reverse engineer, hack or by any other means try to change code or game files nor in any way capture, decipher or interfere with transmissions to or from the game servers nor will you try to create or use any kinds of third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game.
Ah but its NOT fine under section 7. Also the difference is, they are monitoring server numbers, it does not at any point interfere with the normal running of the game. All macro users try to justify using them, you never will just admit that you are cheaters, plain and simple.
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Lady Antares
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:42:00 -
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"So TTI members now use macro programs, you really really want the whole community to hate you dont you? I mean eitheer that or your application process is bugged more than the game."
I'm wondering how this turned into the whole of TTI doing this when only one person posts? This is like being robbed by a black person so all black people are criminals?
On a side note Ctaesis I don't think this is approprite even if it is technically allowed under EULA. Mining like this isn't in the spirit of the game.
Lady Antares
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:43:00 -
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I think the eula is incomplete here. While such a macro doesn't gives speed boni it enables the players to do something without having to do anything (so to speak).
I could as well use a marcro to target new enemys, shoot at them and reload ammo while I'm away - it would be exactly the same situation.
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Cruise
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:44:00 -
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Too funny. You mention eve-i.com's server monitoring but you fail to mention that's not used IN the game. It doesn't affect game play at all, now does it? What you posted was something that WOULD affect gameplay, clearly in violation of the rules.
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Johnson McCrae
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:45:00 -
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Using Macro programs violates the EULA, and is classified as 'third party'. Its a cheat and bannable.
If CCP makes the game unable to be played in 'window' mode, your out of luck then.
It ain't over till the fat lady falls on ya!
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:46:00 -
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Oh and antares, I said "TTI MEMBERS", because he is, in fact, a TTI member. What I was saying was, I would have though that as TTI have been here from the start, tactics such as this would be aginst their "code" and that their application process is evidently not THAT fantastic, as it seems many idiots have been making it through lately, this one being the latest. The main issue however is that this particular player is trying to justify the use of macros, which is not going to work on anyone.
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:47:00 -
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Hey Josh, how am I reading it wrong? It says, "If you [do this stuff, or use things to get stuff] at an accelerated rate [then you are in violation]."
Where am I wrong? I'd love to know.
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 25/08/2003 00:49:33
seems you need to look again:
Quote:
You will not attempt to reverse engineer, hack or by any other means try to change code or game files nor in any way capture, decipher or interfere with transmissions to or from the game servers nor will you try to create or use any kinds of third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game.
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:50:00 -
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@Hendrix
CCP choose to include a EULA in their game, not me. Industry wants us to believe that EULA's are legitamate contracts. Contracts must be stated explicity - they are not "idealized" or "ethical" or "moral" - they are "legal".
So when you say that I'm stupid, not only are you violating the terms of service by calling me names, but you are also incorrect because everything must be specifically written down in the EULA anyway.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.25 00:51:00 -
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Ctaesis,
Hmmmm, it can be taken both ways, if you ask me.
Depends on your viewpoint - cheater or honest player.
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