The only winning move is not to play.

Dear CCP,

You have been scammed by Somer Blink. They are taking you for billions, if not trillions of ISK if you count the uniquely special and uniquely effective vouchsafing PR, that you already gave them for free. This is called favoritism. Just like when T20 gave BoB T2 BPOs, except worse, because you do not even realize you got scammed.

Let me reiterate: You already got scammed, and publicly announced that you're going to continue falling for it.

Since apparently half the EVE playerbase including CCP had either never heard of this particular scam, allow me to enlighten you:

http://www.fraud.org/penny-auctions

I never made a big deal of it before because I simply assumed that most other EVE players realized it was a scam and just liked blowing ISK on it. I have never given them 0.01 ISK and never will because Somer Blink is just another EVE scam!

I, and every other player that knows a penny auction scam when they see it has been denied access to new ships. Yay, favoritism because CCP fell for a scam!

That was a super important paragraph sentence, so please read it again.

Let me reiterate, since CCP is apparently rather thick: CCP fell for an in game scam, and fell so hard that they planned to resurrect a part of in game history and give to them for their exclusive profit.

And since I refuse to become a SomerSuckerGäó I am effectively denied even the chance to get one of these ships because I am more scam resistant than CCP Navigator and the rest of the devs who are too gullible to figure out that Somer Blink is a just another penny auction scam with a couple of insignificant twists on it to further obscure the scam. To say nothing of the people who have been banned from Somer Blink, the result of which is CCP treating even more of their customers unfairly with respect to Somer Blink.

But it is still a scam.

The only way to fix this is to stop pimping Somer Blink revoke any special privileges that they scammed you out of, publicly admit Somer Blink is just another EVE scam, stop falling for it, and never use them again.

If you're thinking "Xaen cannot possibly be correct!" Read below, then read this post again. Keep reading it until you get it through your thick skulls that Somer Blink is just a penny auction scam, EVE style, that CCP fell for hook, line, and Golden Magnate.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

GÇöMark Twain

Blink and Penny Auctions are entirely different models. Blink is closer to a slot machine.

Blink isn't a "scam", it's a casino. The amount you win over a long enough time frame is guaranteed to be lower than the input isk. Extra devious is the bit where players are "better off" if they redeem more blink credit and keep grinding their isk away in the Blink system until it's gone.

Without any scamming component, they can still make trillions and trillions by running things legitimately. If I were running blink and trying to extract as much profit as possible, I wouldn't scam their beautiful business model or loyal customers in any way, shape, or form. Only if Blink was suddenly put out of business somehow would I take the deposits. Simply put, they don't need to scam, they make the most profit with the casino model.

Just because some people fail to understand a system does not make it a scam.

The only winning move is not to play.

I don't intent to play. My time is better spent actually earning isk. Might be a scam - might not. Either way, I'll never know.

Welp, CCP got scammed by a player organization. It was bound to happen eventually I suppose.

Read this folks and let it sink in, both Xaen and Mark Twain are spot on the money here. Blink is a cleverly designed variation on the penny auction system, and CCP has no business directly enriching and vouching for the honesty of Player organisations.

How the hell can Somer Blink scam when people invest ISK not RL money.

I have won more sub caps in somer blink than I have invested isk which I am ahead.

You better get the facts right before you get into trouble either by CCP or Somer Blink.

Because you are faming CCP & Somer Blink

Thats my two cents worth.

Oh and i'd like to point out that most of those who complain about favouritism
wouldn't have done so if it was them receiving free stuff to make profit off.

Oh my, how can i think so badly about you ...

Blink and Penny Auctions are entirely different models. Blink is closer to a slot machine.

Blink isn't a "scam", it's a casino. The amount you win over a long enough time frame is guaranteed to be lower than the input isk. Extra devious is the bit where players are "better off" if they redeem more blink credit and keep grinding their isk away in the Blink system until it's gone.

Without any scamming component, they can still make trillions and trillions by running things legitimately. If I were running blink and trying to extract as much profit as possible, I wouldn't scam their beautiful business model or loyal customers in any way, shape, or form. Only if Blink was suddenly put out of business somehow would I take the deposits. Simply put, they don't need to scam, they make the most profit with the casino model.

So what your saying is all casinos in the world are scams?

The scam is in achievement credits. The free credit you get conceals just how much you are consistently losing. Then achievements dry up but you're too hooked to notice and stopped keeping track of your actual wins and losses. The blink stats are also designed in a way that lies to you without displaying false numbers to artificially inflate win rates and results.

CCP has no business directly enriching and vouching for the honesty of Player organisations.

How would we feel if CCP declared Goonswarm Federation to be the official EVE alliance, and sponsored them with Gold Magnates?

How would we feel if CCP declared Goonswarm Federation to be the official EVE alliance, and sponsored them with Gold Magnates?

Blink is indeed a scam in the same way a casino is a scam -- long term, you are guaranteed to lose money as long as you play normal blinks.

And that's the answer.

Blink works like a normal casino. Convince you that you're winning and force to deposit more money and lose it all. Look at the gift system - you can receive a gift from the casino if you gave more than you took.

That said, in all that there's people that make profit. If you figure out how, you can make a profit. If you don't and wind up hooked you lose more than you win, the house takes it all and you wind up trying to "warn" people on EVE-O forums.

Read the quote again.

You're in my list of easy marks now.

Fly "safe"!

BTW What do you mean by easy marks is that a threat on me also.

Well to threaten someone CCP does not take kindly to that sort of thing.

CCP please close this thread please

Thanks you CCP

>.< jesus i think this dude is mad at somer.

Pshhh. CCP isn't losing d!ck. they simply type /spawn Gaurdian Vexor, and bam. There's your trillion isk. Like they care they get scammed in the very game they create.

Both CCP and Somerblink have won just by the amount of butt hurt they have created.

Well done CCP and Somer for generating tears :)

8/10 not bad butt kissing, i'm sure you boss is very happy with your work *slurp slurp*

@Shacheh

You got raped, then they gave you 100bucks and now you seem conviced you "earned" it. Now you go around advocating **** is good because you got 100bucks out of it.

+1

@Shacheh

You got raped, then they gave you 100bucks and now you seem conviced you "earned" it. Now you go around advocating **** is good because you got 100bucks out of it.

+1

Both CCP and Somerblink have won just by the amount of butt hurt they have created.

Well done CCP and Somer for generating tears :)

You are so original, I like you.

Read the quote again.

You're in my list of easy marks now.

Fly "safe"!

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Welcome to general discussion.

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I supported you, until this.

Are you saying you're gonna go after him in-game because he disagreed with you?

If not, I apologize for this next line:

You're damn pathetic.

Edit: I've had tons of fun playing Blink, that's the whole point for me.

This ^ is the only rational reason to play their game. Exactly the same as gambling at those big flashy casinos in vegas. They didn't build all that by losing money to players who think themselves clever. They built all that by taking money from people who think themselves clever.

Anyway. SomerBlink is donating it's profits (from these unique ships) to the EveVegas thingimabob.

I've put in about 300mil into Blink, and due to all the promo/achievements for extra Blink Cred you get, I've made back way more than that.

I've had fun playing the lottery, and am about even winnings. Win-Win for me. (Unless you count those 4 Plex I won in a Bonk... then I'm 2bil ahead)

Anyway. SomerBlink is donating it's profits (from these unique ships) to the EveVegas thingimabob.

I have never given them 0.01 ISK and never will because Somer Blink is just another EVE scam!

Love it... You've never played and really investigated so what you have to say falls to the ground. You have to know how to play blink to really profit it from it.

I see it more as a raffle than anything else (casino is a good term here also).

You calling it a penny AUCTION when there is no bidding going on shows you don't know what you are talking about.

Your hilarious.. I bet you haven't even played blink.

Somer blink is legit - you are a hoot. I know because I, and most of my friends that play, are ahead win/isk ratio wise. I don't know why your panties are in such a twist with something that doesn't affect you.

Love it... You've never played and really investigated so what you have to say falls to the ground. You have to know how to play blink to really profit it from it.

I see it more as a raffle than anything else (casino is a good term here also).

You calling it a penny AUCTION when there is no bidding going on shows you don't know what you are talking about.

Xaen where is the proof that this is a scam ?

We use plexes and turn them into in game currency.

Or we go and do whatever to get the isk and use that for Somer Blink.

Been a EvE online Gamer for 7 years now I do not see that CCP & Somer Blink do scam at all.

This is a virtual Game not Real Life.

Treat this as a game and just have fun flying internet space ship around and leave politics out of the game please Xaen.

It's easier to dismiss those who disagree with you than to actually attempt to format an answer.

http://www.fraud.org/penny-auctions

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

It is somewhat strange when the definition of penny auction you use has very little to do with how Blink works. But you know, don't let that hold you up or anything.

(The second point of using non-refundable credits does stand though.)

It is somewhat strange when the definition of penny auction you use has very little to do with how Blink works. But you know, don't let that hold you up or anything.

(The second point of using non-refundable credits does stand though.)

Xaen, you're just embarrassing yourself.

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