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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:14:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. yes! down with people that shoot at each other in computer games - cowards the lot of them. allahu akbar While I disagree with the OP, I also disagree with this. It's not about shooting people. Awoxers hide behind anonymity. If they were straight up PvPing, and owning their reputation, that's fair enough, but a lot of people create new characters to awox. That's what makes them cowards. Attack people however you want, EVE is an unforgiving game, but own your reputations people. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:15:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Mayhaw Morgan wrote: So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that?
I just want to save this quote forever. That's what signatures are for. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1043
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:16:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
Did you read the part where I mentioned it was unconscious and unacknowledged shame? I think you may have missed that part. You should read it again, and look out for that part this time. It's relevant.
No. They do not possess the capacity. Which demonstrates why I told you that you seem to misunderstand the concept of a sociopath.
Quote:So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that?
"Yo momma!" Really, you don't have anything better than that? In case you weren't making a real life threat, I will let you know that my mother doesn't play the game. But my wife does, if you'd like to take a crack at her. She's pretty good at ECM though, so you might want to bring some countermeasures.
Quote:Kaarous Aldurad wrote:people who get awox'ed have no one else to blame but themselves ^ this is especially true if they awoxed their self, or in the case that "themself" is a different person, one who awoxed them, and by "especially" I really mean "only".
That sentence makes no sense whatsoever.
Quote:I agree, and I'd even go further and say that that doesn't just apply to anger. I think it applies to other emotions as well . . . like shame.
That presumes one would have something to be ashamed of. This however, is a video game. The inability to disassociate a video game with real life, and therefore acting as though actions in the game reflect real life, is a complete fallacy, not mention delusional. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Ra Jackson
the unified Negative Ten.
198
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:22:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that?
She is -10 anyway. |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
109
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:22:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. And which ones are the ones making IRL threats from behind an internet line, the awoxers, gankers, or the victims?
Both have issues if you ask me. |

Anomaly One
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:29:00 -
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I often find that the people who rage the most and complain in online games have the most mental issues many whom I know irl but it's nice to see so many psychologists online, I would reflect my opinion on psychologists but I would probably get banned for it.
For instance the first one:
Quote:So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that?
who's being disrespectful here?
Quote:If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward.
Violence solves everything..
Don't understand why everything in life or game has to have some sort of hidden mental issue behind it just because you can't comprehend why the other person is doing such an act then you have to make **** up.
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Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange
244
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:29:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Another internet psychologist.
I am surprised CCP have not opened up their own practice, so all the experts we have on personality types and disorders can get paid for their valuable insights and treatments.
Not empty quoting. Also, you and your CEO should hit me up in game sometime - it has been ages since we spoke. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: An International trade corporation that adheres to State values
Intaki born State Citizen and supporter of the Practicals Bloc. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1265
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:38:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:
Don't understand why everything in life or game has to have some sort of hidden mental issue behind it just because you can't comprehend why the other person is doing such an act then you have to make **** up.
Pop psychology is a cultural cancer.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1043
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:38:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:Rhivre wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. And which ones are the ones making IRL threats from behind an internet line, the awoxers, gankers, or the victims? Both have issues if you ask me.
The disctinction is still there. I haven't had a ganker ever give me death threats or vile insults about my parentage or my race after an exchange. A miner does this on an almost constant basis.
They get furious, absurdly upset over pixels. There is something wrong with that. There is something wrong with them. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1282
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:39:00 -
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It's his play style.
Not just that but he could be roleplaying how he would want that characters mindset to be. Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |

SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
198
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:41:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing.
The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. Although I am not against it, you are making a very common mistake here. They do not get upset over pixels, they get upset over invested time, and time is real. I disagree |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
333
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:43:00 -
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Thread:
Internet Psychologist makes broad sweeping statements with approximately the same amount of rational thought as the half-rotten cucumber in my refrigerator crisper.
Butthurt Victims: Huzzah! Hallelujah! Witness! Amen, brother, speak the word!!
Everyone Else: Uhh....reality check?
Eve is a game.
Real Life is not.
edit: **** this was supposed to be a tl;dr...
The enjoyment that comes from the proper vintage of tears - as others have mentioned - is almost entirely a result of sheer bafflement. When I read chatlogs and evemails from scam stories, I stare on, amazed this type of ignorance, self-entitlement, and arrogance can even exist. Countless marks are deluded/lured/coerced into doing the most stupid things imaginable. Yet here you expect us to have sympathy for these idiots? Even after they compound their mistakes by crying/whining/tearing up the forums?
When ripped off or taken advantage of, the adult response is to cut your losses, examine your mistakes, and take steps to ensure you don't repeat them. Then investigate possible recourse. How are you surprised that people find it amusing when the 'average' response is actually one of hate-filled rage, zero self-examination, and shifting of responsibility onto the agressor? The 'victim' should be thanking the extractor for a cheap education on the ways of eve.
The funny thing about people is that if you give them what they need or desire, they tend to stick around in the hopes there will be more.
I learned that one in grade 3 from the schoolyard bully, a shame more 'victims' in eve never had that advantage. If they had, they might stop casting themselves in the same role, over and over. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1265
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:48:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing.
The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. Although I am not against it, you are making a very common mistake here. They do not get upset over pixels, they get upset over invested time, and time is real.
Time invested in stupid internet pixels.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4661
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:49:00 -
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Eve online: far too real There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16732
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:59:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:People get mad about awoxing because IT IS WRONG! Do you feel that taking pawns in chess is wrong too? After all, you're murdering innocent peasantsGǪ
Quote:To declare people are mentally unstable for getting angry when someone WRONGS them is a pretty clear sign that you yourself are just a rotten person. GǪbut that's not what he's doing. He declares them mentally unstable for getting angry when they take an (easily rectified) beating in a game GÇö especially in a game where beating the other guy through underhanded methods is one of the most advertised components of that game.
So, it's not particularly GǣsociopathicGǥ to point out that people over-react to what essentially amounts to the other guy feinting right and then taking the ball left. Not understanding or following the rules of the game (and having this kind of emotional attachment to it) on the other handGǪ
Eram Fidard wrote:The enjoyment that comes from the proper vintage of tears - as others have mentioned - is almost entirely a result of sheer bafflement. When I read chatlogs and evemails from scam stories, I stare on, amazed this type of ignorance, self-entitlement, and arrogance can even exist. Countless marks are deluded/lured/coerced into doing the most stupid things imaginable. Yet here you expect us to have sympathy for these idiots? Even after they compound their mistakes by crying/whining/tearing up the forums? ^^ This. What people want to call sociopathy is just the same curious fascination that fuels the entire reality show industry: the fundamental question of what on earth is wrong with these people to make such immense fools out of themselves GÇö either by exhibiting their idiocy on (inter)national TV or by, in the case of EVE, exploding so spectacularly over regular and entirely predictable gameplay.
GǪnow, if we ere to examine the behaviour of said exploding/exhibitionist parties, on the other hand, maybe that deprecated term would be a bit more suitable. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
142
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:59:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:No. [Sociopaths] do not possess the capacity. Which demonstrates why I told you that you seem to misunderstand the concept of a sociopath.
Did you cut them open and observe that they have no shame glands? Or did you measure a nil shame response with your shame-o-meter to a universally shame-inducing stimuli? Or did you magically become them right at the very moment when, if they weren't sociopaths, they would have felt shame, and, as them, experienced no shame whatsoever? How exactly do you scientifically determine that someone is incapable of experiencing shame?
I suspect it is similar to the way I might observe a parked car was not being driven and determine that it was "incapable" of being driven.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:"Yo momma!" Really, you don't have anything better than that? In case you weren't making a real life threat, I will let you know that my mother doesn't play the game. But my wife does, if you'd like to take a crack at her. She's pretty good at ECM though, so you might want to bring some countermeasures.
How would proposing to awox your mother be construed as a threat? Even if I was proposing to do it to her in real life, in person, by your own logic, "awoxing is not wrong". Are you insinuating that awoxing is something bad?
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:That presumes one would have something to be ashamed of. This however, is a video game. The inability to disassociate a video game with real life, and therefore acting as though actions in the game reflect real life, is a complete fallacy, not mention delusional.
So, there is nothing to be ashamed of because this is a video game . . . therefore, we need to disassociate our in-game actions from our real life. Yeah, just like in checkers, when I double jump and take two pieces, I always remember to tell myself "This is just a game." . . . WHAT?!
You seem to be experiencing some dissonance. If acting a certain way in EVE Online was nothing to be ashamed of, then you would have no need to disassociate it from your real life. Is it a fallacy to say that cheating at checkers makes you a cheater?
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SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
199
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:01:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing.
The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. Although I am not against it, you are making a very common mistake here. They do not get upset over pixels, they get upset over invested time, and time is real. Time invested in stupid internet pixels. Yes, however you want to put it, still time invested. 
As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested.
I can't believe I have to explain this, it's pretty obvious and really happens to all of us (sure deny it like a delusional nerd), I can already imagine the look on your face when that spreadsheet was not saved after hours of working on it. I disagree |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2265
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:08:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward.
The classic "you blew up my spaceship in a game that revolves entirely around blowing up spaceships, for this, I am going to judge you and call you names"
real mature, mate |

Tandros Kreel
Scurvy Sucks Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:08:00 -
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Maliandra wrote:I completely stand by my opinions on this matter. After viewing the TOS and EULA however, I am now unsure as to whether a post of this nature violates any of the terms agreed upon. As such I have removed the content until which time I can received an official response to a petition placed.
However, enjoy the discussion!
I'm pretty sure he does it to have fun.
You know, this is a game, not real life. Your internet space pixels don't really hold much value in the real world, and as soon as you undock, you should have already accepted the fact that your ship and its contents could explode at any second. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1267
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:10:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested.
Except I go into this game knowing full well that all my advances could be reversed at any time (and they have been); and if I didn't like the idea of a game like that, then I wouldn't play it.
So, no, it's not the same. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1144
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:12:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing.
The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. Although I am not against it, you are making a very common mistake here. They do not get upset over pixels, they get upset over invested time, and time is real. QFT. This is a common misconception. It's very possible for people to become frustrated with games if they feel they've invested a lot of time then had that taken from them. While certainly not tear worthy, I still remember playing resident evil 2 through with no saves, no first aid sprays, no special weapons and in a short time, to get the maximum rank, while being the toughest challenge. First time round I died on the last boss. That was painful, though I blitzed it second time around (which I did immediately! RAH!). In the same way, people play EVE and work to get somewhere, then having that taken is a kick in the nuts. EVE was tougher when I started, and getting your first battleship was a long chore. Losing one meant going back to grinding in small ships. It's easy to treat is as nothing now that we've played the game forever, and lost countless billions over time, but dismissing any feelings of disappointment as "crying over pixels" is a ridiculous notion. That said, awoxing is part of the game, and some people are assholes and that's OK. Cover your back, don't undock in a ship you can't afford to lose and remember that there's always options available.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1144
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:14:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Yes, however you want to put it, still time invested.  As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested. I can't believe I have to explain this, it's pretty obvious and really happens to all of us (sure deny it like a delusional nerd), I can already imagine the look on your face when that spreadsheet was not saved after hours of working on it. Autosave FTW! But yeah, agreed here too.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1144
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:15:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:in a game that revolves entirely around blowing up spaceships Since when?!?!?!? Leave my "EVE: Spreadsheets in space" alone! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
202
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:16:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested. Except I go into this game knowing full well that all my advances could be reversed at any time (and they have been); and if I didn't like the idea of a game like that, then I wouldn't play it. So, no, it's not the same. Yes it is because any advances in real life could be reversed any time, you are missing the point and wasted time is simply wasted time, which makes people angry. Yes even you.
Having said this I believe awoxing / thievery / scamming is a massive part of this game either way and I hope those risks stay. I disagree |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
337
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:16:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested.
I can't believe I have to explain this, it's pretty obvious and really happens to all of us (sure deny it like a delusional nerd), I can already imagine the look on your face when that spreadsheet was not saved after hours of working on it.
SO, logically, after neglecting to take cautious saving protocols, then finding hours of your work undone, the rational step is to tirade publicly in a fit of rage blaming everything and everyone but one's self?
Oh, you've got it figured out all right..... (SARCASM!!!)
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1267
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:17:00 -
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"Yeah, yeah, I use to rage like a child over Resident Evil 2."
That's what we're saying. That's the problem. I'm sure your parents were wondering why you were screaming at the TV like an idiot over a stupid video game. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1146
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:17:00 -
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Maliandra wrote:I completely stand by my opinions on this matter. After viewing the TOS and EULA however, I am now unsure as to whether a post of this nature violates any of the terms agreed upon. As such I have removed the content until which time I can received an official response to a petition placed.
However, enjoy the discussion! What part of this are you unsure of? Seemed like a pretty fine opinion post to me, though not one I agree with. Anyway, others have quoted you so it's not removed. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
467
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:18:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Yes, however you want to put it, still time invested.  As soon as you make someone feel they wasted their time, they will get angry, its inevitable and natural that happens to all of us at work, or at home when that program crashed without saving.. although yes that program existed out of pixels, yet obviously its not about the pixels, its about the time invested. I can't believe I have to explain this, it's pretty obvious and really happens to all of us (sure deny it like a delusional nerd), I can already imagine the look on your face when that spreadsheet was not saved after hours of working on it.
Yes, but usually you are angry at yourself for letting it happen. Most of us do not come over all apoplectic towards the other person, but are annoyed at ourselves for being dumb enough to not autosave, or not fit a tank to our ship.
Of course, there is a chance people email Microsoft with threats when they forget to save their spreadsheet. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16735
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:20:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:in a game that revolves entirely around blowing up spaceships Since when?!?!?!? Leave my "EVE: Spreadsheets in space" alone! Since forever. Without spaceships blowing up, those spreadsheets would not be needed since nothing would ever happen and all the numbers would be entirely static and without any need for calculation.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1711
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:21:00 -
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Kialopreyst wrote:Maliandra wrote:May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you. Apparently the victims feel real emotions (not fantasy emotions) when they're ganked. And the ganker feels a real emotion (pleasure) when that happens. It may be a PC game setting, but the emotions felt are real. Real emotions, not fantasy/virtual emotions. |
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