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Maliandra School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 42	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:09:00 - [1] - Quote http://themittani.com/features/practical-guide-highsec-awoxing You know I really feel bad after reading this article. Here we are dealing with a person who fully admits he bases hours upon hours of his activities for the sole purpose of angering people in an online video game. My first thought is, "what a complete dickhead" but when you read the article you realize it's not quite just that. This Tubrug1 is actually almost proud of what he does. The way he articulates his thoughts, it's like he doesn't realize there's anything wrong with behaving like a snotty, obnoxious 14 year old as an aging adult. You have to wonder how that can be. How can someone have so little self respect and empathy that they allow themselves to act in such a distasteful manner? That is why I feel bad. It makes me wonder what happened to people like this to make them that way. How much trauma must these sorts of people have gone through to end up like this? Note I haven't been pestered by this guy or any griefers before really, so this is not personal. It's simply sensible. May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. This isn't meant to be offensive, but it is an analysis that applies to a large enough segment of the EVE community. EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 1149	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:11:00 - [2] - Quote Shame on him for practicing PvP in a PvP game. Are you going to complain about someone shooting you in CoD next?
Mra Rednu Black Watch Guard 339	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:16:00 - [3] - Quote Pvp of this type shouldn't really need any practice....
The Greenmachine Greenmachine Green's Bicycle Shop 39	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:19:00 - [4] - Quote The solution is clearly to make this game rated M so underage players can't play just like in CoD right? wait.......
Lipbite Express Hauler 848	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:20:00 - [5] - Quote Highsec in-corp shooting is CCP's method to control "balance" in the game: it allow to destroy high-sec corps to prevent them grow infinitely and smash low/null alliances. No wonder nullbears promote this activity to save themselves from troubles.
Kialopreyst Hole Exploitation Inc. Goonswarm Federation 18	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:23:00 - [6] - Quote Maliandra wrote: May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family 117	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:37:00 - [7] - Quote Maliandra wrote: http://themittani.com/features/practical-guide-highsec-awoxing You know I really feel bad after reading this article. Here we are dealing with a person who fully admits he bases hours upon hours of his activities for the sole purpose of angering people in an online video game. My first thought is, "what a complete dickhead" but when you read the article you realize it's not quite just that. This Tubrug1 is actually almost proud of what he does. The way he articulates his thoughts, it's like he doesn't realize there's anything wrong with behaving like a snotty, obnoxious 14 year old as an aging adult. You have to wonder how that can be. How can someone have so little self respect and empathy that they allow themselves to act in such a distasteful manner? That is why I feel bad. It makes me wonder what happened to people like this to make them that way. How much trauma must these sorts of people have gone through to end up like this? Note I haven't been pestered by this guy or any griefers before really, so this is not personal. It's simply sensible. May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. This isn't meant to be offensive, but it is an analysis that applies to a large enough segment of the EVE community. EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers. If you read the pastebin chats after a standard awoxing , corp theft of suicide gank or even read James 315's excellent blog you will quickly come to the opposite conclusion as to which party has unhealthy mental problems. The anger , frothing and detailed gruesome IRL threats from the "victims" is very disturbing. I suspect the perps are as fascinated as people like me that merely read about their exploits as to how weirdly so much of humanity reacts to losses in a computer game. It reminds me of why we couldn't play monopoly when i was a kid because my sister threw the game accross the room if she thought she was losing. She grew out of it by the time she was 9 or so but these people seemingly haven't. I would be happy to have an EVE awoxer as a RL friend but the people that overeact on an epic scale i would want to steer well clear of.
March rabbit epTa Team Inc. 788	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:47:00 - [8] - Quote Kialopreyst wrote: Maliandra wrote: May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you. Many times i've heard that serial killers usually are kind and very nice people. Looks like your "you can't differentiate between real life and fantasy" is little more complicated thing that you think.
Kalishka Askulf UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 45	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:48:00 - [9] - Quote Maliandra wrote: http://themittani.com/features/practical-guide-highsec-awoxing You know I really feel bad after reading this article. Here we are dealing with a person who fully admits he bases hours upon hours of his activities for the sole purpose of angering people in an online video game. My first thought is, "what a complete dickhead" but when you read the article you realize it's not quite just that. This Tubrug1 is actually almost proud of what he does. The way he articulates his thoughts, it's like he doesn't realize there's anything wrong with behaving like a snotty, obnoxious 14 year old as an aging adult. You have to wonder how that can be. How can someone have so little self respect and empathy that they allow themselves to act in such a distasteful manner? That is why I feel bad. It makes me wonder what happened to people like this to make them that way. How much trauma must these sorts of people have gone through to end up like this? Note I haven't been pestered by this guy or any griefers before really, so this is not personal. It's simply sensible. May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. This isn't meant to be offensive, but it is an analysis that applies to a large enough segment of the EVE community. EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers. Trying to convince the community someone has a mental disorder and making cruel judgements on someones personal life is far worse than any of the examples in that article. OP, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying those nasty things
Lugalbandak Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates. 144	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:49:00 - [10] - Quote Mra Rednu wrote: Pvp of this type shouldn't really need any practice.... golden , yet he writes a whole guide for it lol The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1083	Posted - 2013.10.01 11:00:00 - [11] - Quote Thought they had fixed this "I'm in space you cannot kick me nanananantrollololol"? Tip: dun get mad if they do.
Mhax Arthie 138	Posted - 2013.10.01 11:05:00 - [12] - Quote Sandbox. Same as in real life, you have military whom fight for honor, mercenary whom fight for money, thugs whom just **** and steal from kids and old ladies. Nothing wrong in it, everybody choose the path that suits them better.
Mayhaw Morgan State War Academy Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:18:00 - [13] - Quote Mhax Arthie wrote: Fighting for liberty and justice for all = purse snatching You need help. People get mad about awoxing because IT IS WRONG! To declare people are mentally unstable for getting angry when someone WRONGS them is a pretty clear sign that you yourself are just a rotten person. Experiencing anger in the face of betrayal is a reasonable and perfectly valid emotional response. If it wasn't, then you wouldn't awox them, because the response would be unreasonable, unexpected, and uncommon. Only a sociopath would claim otherwise . . . probably due to some inborn but unconscious and unacknowledged sense of shame. Quit lying.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 14116	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:18:00 - [14] - Quote Maliandra wrote: EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers. Best way to prevent people collecting your tears in an internet spaceships game? Don't fekkin' cry when your stuff explodes or finds its way into someone else's possession. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1041	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:27:00 - [15] - Quote Heh, that article has some good advice, too. So, you say that awoxing is a brilliant part of the game, then insinuate that people who it for fun need to be examined for a mental illness? What other reason would you do it for, if not for the buckets of tears when you end up taking out someone's Orca? I mean, you could do it to hold them ransom, for money, or for a corp medal. But I guess it comes down to which one you view as the icing on the cake. Because you're going to get tears, lots of them. Might as well enjoy it. For me, money or medals or notoriety is just a bonus, because what I aim to do is wreck someone's day, to remind that highsec isn't all about safety, and to strike at people who annoy me. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1041	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:31:00 - [16] - Quote Quote: Only a sociopath would claim otherwise . . . probably due to some inborn but unconscious and unacknowledged sense of shame. That's a fairly ignorant statement. A sociopath, by definition, feels no shame at their actions. Awoxing is not wrong, and people who get awox'ed have no one else to blame but themselves, and that's why they are such loud crybabies about it so often. It's easier to externalize anger than it is to turn introspective thought towards oneself. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
TheGunslinger42 All Web Investigations 2262	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:31:00 - [17] - Quote OPs tears are delicious
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 345	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:41:00 - [18] - Quote He gives advice how to avoid AVOXers. Good article. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats.
Mayhaw Morgan State War Academy Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:44:00 - [19] - Quote Kaarous Aldurad wrote: A sociopath, by definition, feels no shame at their actions. Did you read the part where I mentioned it was unconscious and unacknowledged shame? I think you may have missed that part. You should read it again, and look out for that part this time. It's relevant. Kaarous Aldurad wrote: Awoxing is not wrong So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that? Kaarous Aldurad wrote: people who get awox'ed have no one else to blame but themselves ^ this is especially true if they awoxed their self, or in the case that "themself" is a different person, one who awoxed them, and by "especially" I really mean "only". Kaarous Aldurad wrote: It's easier to externalize anger than it is to turn introspective thought towards oneself. I agree, and I'd even go further and say that that doesn't just apply to anger. I think it applies to other emotions as well . . . like shame.
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 464	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:44:00 - [20] - Quote Another internet psychologist. I am surprised CCP have not opened up their own practice, so all the experts we have on personality types and disorders can get paid for their valuable insights and treatments.
Capt Starfox xX-Crusader-Xx Li3 Federation 455	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:46:00 - [21] - Quote OP.. You just have to understand that some people are motivated by the accumulation of tears. Like how some people will do whatever it takes to amass billions of ISK, other people will do whatever it takes to amass great tears. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 50885	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:48:00 - [22] - Quote I miss the Hulkageddon Tear Threads. Peter Marshall: In "Alice in Wonderland", who kept crying "I'm late, I'm late?"-á Paul Lynde: Alice, and her mother is sick about it.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 1257	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:48:00 - [23] - Quote The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing. The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 976	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:54:00 - [24] - Quote If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Regis Solo Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:02:00 - [25] - Quote Kialopreyst wrote: Maliandra wrote: May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it. You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you. Then again, people are responsible for their actions, whether its fantasy or reality this activity still reveals the morality and sensibility of the person.
Mayhaw Morgan State War Academy Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:03:00 - [26] - Quote Varius Xeral wrote: The whole point is laughing at people who get upset over meaningless pixels; not that they are mad in general, but tat they are mad about nothing. The people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters are those with the issues. "We're not crazy! They are!" There are really no such people who can't distinguish between a stupid game and something that actually matters. You made those people up in your head. The people who get mad about awoxing aren't mad because their internet spaceship was exploded or their space corporation got disbanded. They are mad that someone would spend so much time and energy to do something so assinine. If you can't comprehend that certain aspects of awoxing take place OUT OF GAME, then maybe YOU are having some trouble distinguishing what is playing the MMORPG called EVE Online from what is Joe Neckbeard sitting at his computer just douching up the internet.
Mythrandier Spacelane Salvage 51	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:05:00 - [27] - Quote Silvetica Dian wrote: If you read the pastebin chats after a standard awoxing , corp theft of suicide gank or even read James 315's excellent blog you will quickly come to the opposite conclusion as to which party has unhealthy mental problems. The anger , frothing and detailed gruesome IRL threats from the "victims" is very disturbing. I suspect the perps are as fascinated as people like me that merely read about their exploits as to how weirdly so much of humanity reacts to losses in a computer game. It reminds me of why we couldn't play monopoly when i was a kid because my sister threw the game accross the room if she thought she was losing. She grew out of it by the time she was 9 or so but these people seemingly haven't. I would be happy to have an EVE awoxer as a RL friend but the people that overeact on an epic scale i would want to steer well clear of. Nail. Head. +1 that man. "It is better to light a flame thrower than curse the darkness." --á T. Pratchett.
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 465	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:08:00 - [28] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. And which ones are the ones making IRL threats from behind an internet line, the awoxers, gankers, or the victims?
Silvetica Dian Manson Family 123	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:09:00 - [29] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: If you annoy someone irl there is a good chance that he will punch you in the kisser. Doing the same thing from behind your internet line just shows you are a coward. yes! down with people that shoot at each other in computer games - cowards the lot of them. allahu akbar
Johnny Marzetti GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 437	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:11:00 - [30] - Quote Mayhaw Morgan wrote: So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that? I just want to save this quote forever.

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