Why would you expect any less? They traded in their player advocate hats a long time ago in exchange for ~improved access~ (fat lot of good it did them here, hey?). Don't let the election fool you, they don't represent players anymore. For all intents and purposes, they are CCP employees, with the only notable distinction being that they're dumb enough to work without pay for a for-profit corporation.

*sips mojito

Why would you expect any less? They traded in their player advocate hats a long time ago in exchange for ~improved access~ (fat lot of good it did them here, hey?). Don't let the election fool you, they don't represent players anymore. For all intents and purposes, they are CCP employees, with the only notable distinction being that they're dumb enough to work without pay for a for-profit corporation.

Malacanis is doing a pretty good job of expressing my view point.

i'll admit, i only took a brief glance at the last page of this thread.

but at a glance, i guess you've decided to come back and troll rather than actually address the player concerns?
still, it seems to be more than CCP are doing right now.

No offence but it seems to be the same people over and over instead of a majority of people.... I'm not a fan of what they have done but I'm sure if I had received one of these ships I'd have been happy., I haven't and to be honest I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

obviously, who wouldn't be happy if they'd been given a fist full of isk from their buddies at CCP?

not that any of that changes the fact that malcanis has missed the point, every time he posts.

Simply because you believe it so does not make it fact.

obviously, who wouldn't be happy if they'd been given a fist full of isk from their buddies at CCP?

not that any of that changes the fact that malcanis has missed the point, every time he posts.

*sips mojito

Thus demonstrating why you are completely missing our points. That just because he disagrees does not mean he is 'missing the point' nor does it mean he's some CCP mouthpiece. It means he has an opinion. And simply repeating 'you are missing the point' is not going to change it. Logic might if you can find the right logic.

What can he do? He may or may not have resgistered his misgivings about it but apart from that what can he do?
He can agree with what's happened or disagree. If people aren't happy then they will vote next time as to which direction they aren't happy with.

There's not point going over the same stuff trying to get him to change his viewpoint if he isn't inclined to do it. The CSM is there in it's entiritey to reflect the majority viewpoint of the playerbase. If you are having no luck with one CSM rep try another one...

Thus demonstrating why you are completely missing our points. That just because he disagrees does not mean he is 'missing the point' nor does it mean he's some CCP mouthpiece. It means he has an opinion. And simply repeating 'you are missing the point' is not going to change it. Logic might if you can find the right logic.

Yeah no.
He is missing the point.
Whether it's willfully or not is hard to say.

Spoiler alert: He doesn't give a **** because it doesn't matter what he thinks because CCP is going to do whatever they want anyway.

It's a wonderful misdirection he's part of, though, whether he even realizes he's part of it or not. Keep everyone arguing about the CSM and their role and who thinks what instead of keeping the vitriol pointed where it should be.

i shouldn't have to have "luck" with the CSM members understanding an issue, regardless of their viewpoint towards the issue.

thankfully we have a nearly 70 page thread keeping to the point.
shame within those 70 pages there are 0 ccp replies.

i'll admit, i only took a brief glance at the last page of this thread.

but at a glance, i guess you've decided to come back and troll rather than actually address the player concerns?
still, it seems to be more than CCP are doing right now.

...
i'll illustrate the point, again.
nobody cares that blink got ships
nobody cares that scorpions were handed out.
people are upset because ccp giving anything they want, to any one they feel, without a word about it is a massively bad idea.

??? Why not, I've have a viewpoint about something in my street that I have brought up with my local councillor, have I had any luck with it...no I haven't, so next year I'll be voting for someone else.

You have presented your opinion he obviously doesn't agree/care with/about it so move on and vote/talk for/to someone else.

if he didn't agree, that would be fine.
however he has systematically demonstrated that he doesn't *understand* the issue.

at least ripard demonstrated he understood the issue.

if he didn't agree, that would be fine.
however he has systematically demonstrated that he doesn't *understand* the issue.

at least ripard demonstrated he understood the issue.

Malcanis- "...I said I thought the lack of transparency was not the best way..."



Isn't transparency the issue and didn't Malcanis disagree with how it was done?

the new TMC article basically hits the nail on the head;
"...CCP was starting a new third-party affiliate program and in the process of developing guidelines for who could participate. Had such guidelines existed (and perhaps been published, or at least referenced) for giving away tokens of thanks to other community members, it would shut up pretty much all of the outrage."

...it's also the lack of a defined criteria for handing things out.

...the way it was done is entirely the issue...

Is it possible CCP recognizes this and are trying to take steps?

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First, we are developing a program to allow all 3rd parties the opportunity to apply to participate in these kinds of events and promotions with CCP support...

That said, we recognize it is imperative for CCP to remain impartial with respect to which 3rd parties receive CCP support for these kinds of activities. To that end, we will develop a clear policy on how...

David Reid (CCP Pokethulu, CCP's CMO)

yeah, great, except they really should do that first then give things out otherwise... ta-dah!

It's going to be fascinating to see how they try and crowbar enriching a gambling site to the tune of hundreds of billions of isk into being eligible to receive 'tokens of thanks' secretly.