Sorry do you actually believe that publicly encouraging a large group of people to deliberately go after someone so they will kill themselves is normal....wow are you one seriously warped weirdo.....go see a psychiatrist now before you make onto the 10 most wanted list.

I am sorry but doing crap like that is so not normal. Next you will be saying its ok to push people off tall buildings because your bored.

encouraging one group of players to go after another is usually called content, in eve. however, "grr goons" means i guess that's not the case when the mittani does it?
how the recipient reacts to that is entirely on them. if people want to kill themselves because some one blew up their mackinaw then they are clearly the abnormal one.

not that it matters because you're "grr goons" goggles clearly cloud any judgement you have.

encouraging one group of players to go after another is usually called content, in eve. however, "grr goons" means i guess that's not the case when the mittani does it?
how the recipient reacts to that is entirely on them. if people want to kill themselves because some one blew up their mackinaw then they are clearly the abnormal one.

not that it matters because you're "grr goons" goggles clearly cloud any judgement you have.

Which T2 BPOs were created and purposed as community awards with no intrinsic value of their own?

And this is not abnormal behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw

Even if he is drunk.

Malcanis:

Suppose CCP gave every director of Goonswarm Federation about 10 PLEX each for their contributions to the sandbox.
This comes out to, very roughly, 300 billion ISK worth of PLEX being given directly to the command staff of the largest alliance in the game.
Since PLEX doesn't refine to anything, has no intrinsic value aside from what players assign to it, and since our leadership is already ridiculously wealthy, you should have no problem with this, right? After all CCP has a right to reward its content creators.

Malcanis claims not to be mindless defender of CCP, yet directly quotes CCP retcon in attempt to mindlesly defend CCP.

The IshuScorps were not created as community awards. They were created to be sold for profit on the NEX store, right next to the CCP Kool-Aid.

We've now got two CSMs on the record doing their mealy-mouthed best to distinguish this from T20. Follow along with the fun!

"It's okay for CCP to favor in game corporations for being successful, they just can't be secret about it!"

"The in game corporations CCP is favoring don't even really need the help!"

"The gifts being given by CCP to favored in game corporations aren't as valuable as they could be! They could be worth way more!"

"It's CCP's game and they can do what they want!"

Honestly, the exact same defenses raised by a rare couple of scrubs over the T20 incident. There are ONLY two real differences between these recent situations and the T20 scandal.

1) all of CCP is behind this, not a rogue employee (how does that make it better?)

2) this time, the player base is apparently a lot more willing to look the other way (granted, some of the defenders were already given secret ship rewards)

1) CCP have been giving special award ships for a long, long time. Why is it suddenly a problem now

1) CCP have been giving special award ships for a long, long time. Why is it suddenly a problem now

2) If you seriously need to ask what the difference is between CCP making a legitimate decision and 1 rogue employee directly breaking company policy then all I can ask is that you grow up, get a job and see how life actually works. I can't be bothered to talk to naive children.

So... people are jealous because they didn't got a not so unique ship?

Or are they enraged because some of the not so clever market wannabee pvp'lers lost some investments with the Scorpions?

No I don't see the "huge" ISK value as much of an issue. For the following reasons:

1) The Somer people have more ISK than they know what to do with. The ISK value of this award is meaningless to them.

2) And that ISK value is pretty hypothetical. And it's based purely on the rarity of the Ishscorps given out so far. Note that so far. CCP have said outright that they've given these out before and they're going to be given out again. The mere fact of giving out another 30 has significantly reduced the rarity of these ships.

In fact I think that giving gametime to Somer would be much less appropriate than the Ishscorps. That really would be a straight up money gift, rather than what amounts to a set of harmless souveniers.

I realize this was back on page 2, but neither of there are good arguments. Even if the isk is meaningless to Somer, it's still CCP giving items of more value than most eve players will ever have in their wallets at any given time. What message does this send to new players? That their efforts are pointless, and they made a mistake in choosing their organization.

And to 2, the imprecise nature of the value is besides the point, they're still considerably valuable no matter how you slice it.

2) And that ISK value is pretty hypothetical. And it's based purely on the rarity of the Ishscorps given out so far. Note that so far. CCP have said outright that they've given these out before and they're going to be given out again. The mere fact of giving out another 30 has significantly reduced the rarity of these ships.

wow. simply, wow. Malcanis, you were one of my favorite CSM dudes. I have given your posts a lot of likes. I never expected this kind of behavior from you

I take back what I said about wanting you to run again for CSM.

I've agreed with you about a lot of things, Malcanis. But on the one thing that really matters, you inexplicably chose the wrong crowd to side with.

I take back what I said about wanting you to run again for CSM.

I've agreed with you about a lot of things, Malcanis. But on the one thing that really matters, you inexplicably chose the wrong crowd to side with.

I take back what I said about wanting you to run again for CSM.

I've agreed with you about a lot of things, Malcanis. But on the one thing that really matters, you inexplicably chose the wrong crowd to side with.

But it doesn't matter. It is an awful ship which CCP hands out like candy.

It only has a high ISK value because collectors are buying it overpriced . And you can't blame CCP for of the stupidity of their playerbase.

Whatever. I'm done talking about this.

But it doesn't matter. It is an awful ship which CCP hands out like candy.

It only has a high ISK value because collectors are buying it overpriced . And you can't blame CCP for of the stupidity of their playerbase.

Whatever. I'm done talking about this.