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Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:26:00 - [1] It strikes me as odd that we use the word pirate and piracy as if we are talking about some swashbuckling errol flyn hollywood take on the activity of thieves and brigands. 17th and 18th Century thieves and murderers whose mode of transport was a sailing ship were still thieves and murderers. So how about we call a spade a spade. Some examples: take "gate camping", sounds like some healthy outdoors holiday when in reality it is a gang of robbers/brigands intent on bushwacking a solitary traveller and either extracting money with menaces or robbing with violence.(or both) or describing as 'piracy' sneaking around the loot cans of someone elses battle and hoping to be unobserved as, like a jackal or hyena, they steal some loot. Not piracy but sneak thiefery. At least at a gate camp the pack of robbers bring down their own prey. So lets have the activities of those formerly known as 'pirates' be described with clarity and honesty as: theft, brigandage, extortion and, for those who enjoy 'popping' noobie pods, psychopathy. What d'ya think. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Rasitiln	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:27:00 - [2] I think your stupid.
Hughy	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Rasitiln I think your stupid. i dunno i quite like the idea. this would make me a Psycopathic Thieving Extortionate Brigande. yarr! Sentinel Roqeze > I'm so drunk I'll probably try ransoming the sentries
Kahor	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:40:00 - [4] Piracy and pirate describe an alternativ way of life... Pirates are the master of the sea (read space), with no ties or bound; they act in illegality, they thief, swindle, trap or do whatever plan they have in their head. They gain glory, fame, and wealth, they live adventures; but in exchange they are hated, hunted, and live a riskfull life; they ultimatly loose access to high sec zones and are not immune to other pirates, they are even most likely to come accross pirates by living everyday in low sec zone, the only difference being skill, alertness and experience, that you can blame nobody but yourself for not having. So let's call pirates, pirates...If one pirate think another is not worthy of calling himself a pirate, then he will settle the matter himself IG (most likely)...not go whining on the forum about how he should or should not be called. My 50$
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Rasitiln I think your stupid. Argh - your wit it is like a sword to my heart. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Hughy Originally by: Rasitiln I think your stupid. i dunno i quite like the idea. this would make me a Psycopathic Thieving Extortionate Brigande. yarr! exactly, thats the kind of thing. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:49:00 - [7] Originally by: Kahor So let's call pirates, pirates...If one pirate think another is not worthy of calling himself a pirate, then he will settle the matter himself IG (most likely)...not go whining on the forum about how he should or should not be called. My 50$ I appreciate the thoughtful reply but just for the sake of clarity - I am not a pirate. As for whining - never been a victim of one yet either (so far I've 'hidden' in hi sec space where its safe) so not a wine but entering into the spirit of the game. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Camperific	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:49:00 - [8] [q uote=Rasitiln]I think your stupid. yeah,i'll second that
Kahor	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:55:00 - [9] I wasn't actualy implying that you were a pirate or that you were whining. Never interprete more than I say, when I'll insult you, I'll let you know ^^.
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 12:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Kahor I wasn't actualy implying that you were a pirate or that you were whining. Never interprete more than I say, when I'll insult you, I'll let you know ^^. Apologies for any misrepresentation of your post> Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.01.24 13:43:00 - [11] You're just talking semantics. Does it really matter what subjective meanings the word should break down into? We all know what is meant by the term 'pirate' in the context of EVE, and thats all that really matters.
Cvuos	Posted - 2006.01.24 13:48:00 - [12] I was a highwayman. Along the coach roads I did ride With sword and pistol by my side Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade The bastards hung me in the spring of twenty-five But I am still alive. [verse 2 and 3 blablabla) I fly a starship across the Universe divide And when I reach the other side I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can Perhaps I may become a highwayman again Or I may simply be a single drop of rain But I will remain And I'll be back again, and again and again and again and again..
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 14:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Butter Dog You're just talking semantics. Does it really matter what subjective meanings the word should break down into? We all know what is meant by the term 'pirate' in the context of EVE, and thats all that really matters. No I don't agree, much of pirate semantics is designed to enoble their trade, to glorify their predation and to justify their naughty behaviour. It is humbug. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.01.24 14:46:00 - [14] I think pirating is quite an honourable profession myself. Its high risk, low reward. I admire people who stick at it despite the setbacks.
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 14:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Butter Dog I think pirating is quite an honourable profession myself. Its high risk, low reward. I admire people who stick at it despite the setbacks. honourable in what sense? honourable amongst thieves? Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Malka Badi'a	Posted - 2006.01.24 14:58:00 - [16] Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/01/2006 14:58:30 Quit with the labeling semantics of pirate. Be flat out what you are. I am a murderer. A killer. A griefer. A tricker. And a thief. --------------
Suhadi	Posted - 2006.01.24 15:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Malka Badi'a Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/01/2006 14:58:30 Quit with the labeling semantics of pirate. Be flat out what you are. I am a murderer. A killer. A griefer. A tricker. And a thief. Qft. What's the big deal with names anyway? -------------------------------------------------- - Suhadi
Malka Badi'a	Posted - 2006.01.24 15:04:00 - [18] Quote: Qft. What's the big deal with names anyway? Because giving a general name allows pirates (would be ones) to feel better about themselves. They are playing to a "stereotype" and therefore are not bad people in their own eyes. They do things for fun or because that is "what pirates do, by definition". They won't see it straight for fear of accepting something that is within them, darker than their main characters. I am an alt. This is my darker side that has no other outlet than to kill people and destroy their ship and courage. I accept this side of myself rather than reject it. --------------
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 15:18:00 - [19] Edited by: Hickock on 24/01/2006 15:21:59 Edited by: Hickock on 24/01/2006 15:21:02 Edited by: Hickock on 24/01/2006 15:20:44 Originally by: Malka Badi'a Quote: Qft. What's the big deal with names anyway? Because giving a general name allows pirates (would be ones) to feel better about themselves. They are playing to a "stereotype" and therefore are not bad people in their own eyes. They do things for fun or because that is "what pirates do, by definition". They won't see it straight for fear of accepting something that is within them, darker than their main characters. I am an alt. This is my darker side that has no other outlet than to kill people and destroy their ship and courage. I accept this side of myself rather than reject it. Oooh I wouldn't like to meet you in a dark alley! Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 15:23:00 - [20] Edited by: Hickock on 24/01/2006 15:24:18 double post, Sorry Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.01.24 16:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Rasitiln I think your stupid. /signed soar angelic now recruting
Hickock	Posted - 2006.01.24 17:15:00 - [22] Dear weirdass boobhunter, or should I call u sexy, thank u for your well thought out position. Absurdity, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.01.24 17:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Hickock Dear weirdass boobhunter, or should I call u sexy, thank u for your well thought out position. are u alt ? soar angelic now recruting
Malka Badi'a	Posted - 2006.01.24 18:05:00 - [24] Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 24/01/2006 18:08:57 WARNING! The following has improperly constructed grammar! Grammar police report: Originally by: wierchas noobhunter are u alt ? Grammar police to the rescue! Grammar police case closed: Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Are you an alternate character? Thank you grammar police for saving us! --------------
Kreeper	Posted - 2006.01.24 18:52:00 - [25] If you study more about pirates they were really loyal to their crew. paid for the families of the crew that we killed etc etc....But hey who wants to study... ----------------------------------------------- Smother another Failur Lay this to rest...
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.01.24 19:00:00 - [26] Can you sue people for brain*****these days? This thread made my head hurt, I want compensation..
vile56	Posted - 2006.01.24 19:50:00 - [27] as u all know there are no pirats in this game its all macros and greifers well walk up to her with your pants down and if she runs away it was never meant to be.
minnmirman	Posted - 2006.01.24 20:52:00 - [28] you need to put a space before your sig or something, i keep thinking its part of your responses haha. good OP
Ashelth	Posted - 2006.01.25 10:04:00 - [29] Okay, so we're playing a game set in the far distant future... And you're preposing to make this sound like an Ed Greenwood book BEFORE it goes to the editor to make it at least something written by a person not dead for 1200 years.
Copine Callmeknau	Posted - 2006.01.25 11:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Hughy Originally by: Rasitiln I think your stupid. i dunno i quite like the idea. this would make me a Psycopathic Thieving Extortionate Brigande. yarr! I like it Something good to put on my resume ------- With five million sheep in this army I seem to be the only one fit to command

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