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Tyrus Ex
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Posted - 2006.01.24 16:24:00 -
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Has anyone tried running EVE under linux (particularly Transgaming/Cedega)? Transgaming purportedly supports the game, with a 4 star rating. See here:
http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=4144
Also, there's a WIKI describing current issues:
http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Eve_Online
What I'd like to know, is whether or not I should be concerned about things like skills disappearing from my character because of some weird local file storage issue. Or are all important files server-side only? I'd love to give this a go, as I'm getting rather tired of the 0x00000007 BSODs, and am willing to endure the graphical glitches if it affords me some measure of stability.
If you have experience with Cedega/EVE, please post here! Thanks!
Tyrus
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Clytamnestra
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Posted - 2006.01.24 16:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Tyrus Ex
Has anyone tried running EVE under linux (particularly Transgaming/Cedega)? Transgaming purportedly supports the game, with a 4 star rating. See here:
http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=4144
Also, there's a WIKI describing current issues:
http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Eve_Online
What I'd like to know, is whether or not I should be concerned about things like skills disappearing from my character because of some weird local file storage issue. Or are all important files server-side only? I'd love to give this a go, as I'm getting rather tired of the 0x00000007 BSODs, and am willing to endure the graphical glitches if it affords me some measure of stability.
If you have experience with Cedega/EVE, please post here! Thanks!
Tyrus
Your skills are safe. But there are some issue with Cedega. In my case, hitting ESC locks up the game. So I have to change my settings in windows and copy over the backed up settings to Linux for my resolution and options settings.
That's not the biggest problem though. The biggest problem is that it crashes whenever you see a Minmatar jump gate.
I think there are work arounds to that though, like if you zoom out all the way and have LOD on you might be safe. Not sure though.
Other than that, I get about a five to ten frames per second hit in performance, which isn't half bad.
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Dematone
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Posted - 2006.01.24 18:21:00 -
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I do not know for Cedega, but I know for WINE that it does not work with one of the versions back in August 2005. I have not tried yet. If anyone got it running with wine(x), please let me know! It sux to always boot windows just for gaming, especially if playing EVE, since I usually work a lot besides hunting or something.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2006.01.24 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Clytamnestra
Other than that, I get about a five to ten frames per second hit in performance, which isn't half bad.
Up yours, people who claim it couldn't work on Linux, claiming that "because Linux doesn't have DirectX Eve could never work blahblah" 
It's just bad luck that it doesn't work completely with Cedega, some hooks are either unfinished or haven't been tested with the EVE Client. It's very very near for working. In fact if just couple dozen Cedega customers bothered VOTING for it the Cedega people would fix all the remaining bugs and problems. (Wouldn't most likely take more than couple days.)
(And besides that, it wouldn't be more than couple hours of work for someone who knows his SDL and DirectX to make a pure Linux version anyways.)
Disclaimer: I'm booting to Windows. I have Windows installed only to be able to play Eve. Not that I mind because when I play I don't do anything besides playing really.. So a tiny 10G partition with Windows and just the Eve is fine for me  And because you can actually get Windows legally for free too.
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Tyrus Ex
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Posted - 2006.01.25 18:40:00 -
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I decided to try it out. I installed the timedemo of Cedega v5.0.2. Here's the summary of my experience:
GENERAL:
* the installation of the EVE client went flawlessly
* the WIKI describes graphical flaws (ie/bad warping graphics), but I didn't experience any of these
* I also didn't experience the mouse bug
RESOLUTION:
* EVE by default launches at a 1024x768 resolution
* ESC menu crashes the game (like mentioned in the bug report on the wiki)
* this means it's necessary to change those settings in the Prefs.ini file - I tried changing the resolution to 1280x1024, despite the changes being saved, the game STILL runs at 1024x768
* I then directly imported the Prefs.ini file from the windows-installed version of EVE - this didn't help. Inspection of the Prefs.ini file shows that the changes to res are still there (despite the fact the game runs at a lower res!!), and other parts of the file are parsed correctly by the client (ie/login name)
* changing res with CTRL+ALT(-) sort of works - the screen res changes to 1280x1024, but the game res remains at 1024x768 (in other words, it doesn't resize to fit the screen)
Any ideas here?
PERFORMANCE:
Hardware: AMD64 3200+, 1GB RAM, Geforce 6800GT
* in XP I consistently get 50+ FPS with 8XAA / 16XAniso at 1280x1024 outside stations, and 80+ FPS inside stations
* with Cedega @ 1024x768, no AA and Aniso on or off (in the Cedega preferences), I get about 50+ FPS in station, and outside station 20+ FPS (with frequent dips below 20 while warping, etc)
This is hardly the 5-10% performance dip mentioned in an earlier post. Perhaps it's because I'm using the timedemo (there's a HUGE watermark in the centre of the screen when playing), but I'm not going to purchase Cedega to find out.
If anyone has any idea on how to fix the res problem, I'm open to suggestions.
Tyrus
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MuertoChongo
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:22:00 -
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PLEASE HELP! I am running cedege 5.1 and when I get to the screen where it says to accept the agreement , it just freezes....Anyone had this problem? My graphic are fine and I got wow on this with wine but I couldn't get eve to install under it. please help
Thanks
MuertoChongo.
ps if anyone gets a fix soon PLZZZZ email it to me... mccurry {at} gmail {dot} com
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 25/07/2006 10:51:21
Edited by: Sevarus James on 25/07/2006 10:50:52
Well first off.......eve search is your friend.....or should be. points to the upper right fill in the blank doohicky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2nd. We've had a good tech linux wine/cedega thread in the TECH forum for quite awhile now.
Short and sweet:
Eve runs.
go over the last 4-5 pages of the eve linux thread in the tech section...lotsa info.
Also, cedega is now at version 5.2.3
Version 5.1 will not run EVE. It was the 5.1.1 release that solved most of EVE's issues.
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GouldFish
Unscoped
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.25 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrus Ex
I'd love to give this a go, as I'm getting rather tired of the 0x00000007 BSODs
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.25 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
Heh, I can make EVE BSOD XP. It's not that hard, although it does require two instances of EVE to be running. Log in two chars, enable sound on both, wait.
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GouldFish
Unscoped
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.25 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Harington
Originally by: GouldFish
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
Heh, I can make EVE BSOD XP. It's not that hard, although it does require two instances of EVE to be running. Log in two chars, enable sound on both, wait.
Sounds more like a driver issue then an issue with XP its self.
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Delwynndwn Siele
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Posted - 2006.07.25 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
Originally by: Karina Harington
Originally by: GouldFish
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
Heh, I can make EVE BSOD XP. It's not that hard, although it does require two instances of EVE to be running. Log in two chars, enable sound on both, wait.
Sounds more like a driver issue then an issue with XP its self.
Or maybe not just a driver issue, but a problem with actual hardware.
MSDN page on 0x00000007 STOP Error
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Delwynndwn Siele
Originally by: GouldFish
Originally by: Karina Harington
Originally by: GouldFish
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
Heh, I can make EVE BSOD XP. It's not that hard, although it does require two instances of EVE to be running. Log in two chars, enable sound on both, wait.
Sounds more like a driver issue then an issue with XP its self.
Or maybe not just a driver issue, but a problem with actual hardware.
MSDN page on 0x00000007 STOP Error
I see it often, and laugh as they are shown to only be riding a bandwagon.
Linux is a darn (damned) good OS for many things, but it is NOT user freindly. Thus I use it only for servers.
Many will read FUD produced by MS hater bandwagons and jump on board without having a clue as to why their systems are sucking eggs.
They will then spend weeks getting linux to do anything, but they will not spend a day to correct a config or hardware issue under an MS OS.
I had a 'freind' that jumped on that bandwagon, only to find out his sound card was at fault, but would he admit it was a hardware issue? NO. Not until his wife forced him to reinstall XP so she could use the PC. Well, guess what, the PC worked flawlessly since the bad hardware was replaced, and he never went back to linux...but his bandwagon riding pride still will not let him admit his lack of troubleshooting knowledge/skill.
On OS is only as stable and secure as the user makes it, regardless of the OS.
FRODO HAS FAILED;
BUSH HAS THE RING!!!
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Moornblade
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:35:00 -
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THREAD NECROMANCY!
That being said, Eve works well under Linux. I'm running it on Cedega right now, and the only issue I have is that visual settings cannot be changed while I am not docked. I get a crash to desktop. If I want to change resolution/color depth/whatever, I have to be docked.
Other than that, everything works perfectly under the latest Cedega. Perfect stability, client will run for hours and hours without a hickup.
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Abye
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
Originally by: Karina Harington
Originally by: GouldFish
Have you tried looking into why you ar getting the BSOD, as I would guess it would take less effort to fix it then to run EVE with linux.
Heh, I can make EVE BSOD XP. It's not that hard, although it does require two instances of EVE to be running. Log in two chars, enable sound on both, wait.
Sounds more like a driver issue then an issue with XP its self.
Sounds more like having problems with the crappy sound system eve uses 
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrus Ex
What I'd like to know, is whether or not I should be concerned about things like skills disappearing from my character because of some weird local file storage issue. Or are all important files server-side only?
If skills were client-side I'd fire up that good ol' hex editor and work some magic ... oh wait that'd be against the Eula nvm
Rest assured, your skills are on the server. One guy in my corp mentioned he plays on Cedega, and it seemed to work quite well with some minor issues. But that was about a month ago and I have no details.
Cheers,
"Cheyenne Shadowborn"
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Clytamnestra
Other than that, I get about a five to ten frames per second hit in performance, which isn't half bad.
ATI card? Blame the drivers? If so, now's the time to email AMD and remind them of their commitment to Open Source
(sorry, half-***** approach at hijacking this thread for OS world domination or better ATI drivers, whichever one comes first)
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Macro Slasher
And because you can actually get Windows legally for free too.
Please elaborate. My MSDN subscription has expired 
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Crag naCron
A.W.M
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.26 15:41:00 -
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Has anyone had any luck with anything other than Cedega, something free preferably for us cheap bastards
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Buster Bloodvessel
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Posted - 2006.07.26 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Buster Bloodvessel on 26/07/2006 19:51:56
What I don't understand is why anyone would want to do this? I ran Linux for about 6 months and eventaully came to the conclusion that all the things I wanted to do on my computer (and I do a lot) all, without exception, worked a lot smoother, faster, and more conveniantly in Windows. I just can't see why people do it. Curiosity?
And why run a game slowly with errors when you can run it smoothly? Masocism? Too much time on your hands?
Anyway - I wiped it off both computers I had it on in the end and good riddance! 
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Brutal Bruno
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Posted - 2007.11.06 21:43:00 -
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Im having problems with my graficcard, the login screen is just omfg!!!!
Just put linux on the comp yesterday and dont know what to do...???
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.06 21:49:00 -
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Check the date of the thread next time 
I don't know what to do. I'm sure there are instructions somewhere, but I imagine that with linux it involves use of the command line in some form. If you don't already know how to use that, then learn how to use it before installing EVE. It'll probably help. Otherwise it's just a case of downloading the right file for your distribution and installing how you normally would in Linux.
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Tssa
Aurora Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.06 22:30:00 -
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So far, I've installed it on two machines:
#1 is a dual-CPU, 4G RAM, nVidia 7300 box with dual 1600x1200 monitors
not a fantastic experience, but I've run into problems with the dual monitors being exposed as a single screen to X before. Killed the client at a black screen, probably won't play with it much more as this is my workstation at work =)
#2 Duo Core, 1G RAM, nVidia Go 7400
Easy install, client appears rock stable (although I haven't had time to undock yet, still at work). If this is the standard for this client, I'll say they have a real winner and will be booting into Windows a whole lot less.
Let's have a traditional thanks giving this year...invite the neighbors over for dinner..then kill them and take their T2 stuff!!
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Gilbert T
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Posted - 2007.11.20 13:16:00 -
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Installed fine and works fine. I get some weird graphics glitches on the screen for fitting my ship sometimes, but I don't really care. I couldn't even comment on how it works in Windows and I'm not even sure why people would come into this forum and talk about it (no life?) but I can comment on some of the things I have noticed.
The sound flakes out occasionally. I hit esc, shut it off and then turn it back on, and it's fixed.
The graphics weirdness I mentioned and that's the only place I ever saw anything like that (in the fittings screen).
I run it on dual screens, it spans both screens, the graphics are nice and it never locks up or crashes. It occasionally lags a little bit, but it seems to only happen in really busy areas.
Both the systems I run it on have dual core AMD processors. One has 1 GB RAM and the other has 2 GB. They both have nVidia GeForce graphics and use the proprietary nVidia drivers and 2.6.22 or 2.6.23 kernels. I use ALSA for sound but I have OSS emulation enabled so I have no idea which one EVE Online is using. Everything just worked the way it came. I would imagine that you need to have direct rendering and GLX and all that stuff working before you even try to run it. I wouldn't bother trying to run any game without it.
I'm going to try the voice stuff whenever the server comes back online today. I read in another thread that it isn't supported. That's pretty messed up since the game is supposedly supporting all platforms, but apparently adding new features just for Windows users. I'm guessing that it might work anyway since the post was rather old, and I guess I'll find out. It would be nice to hear for once that Windows users would be the last to receive the newest feature, but at least I live a BSOD and (MS) EULA-free life and retain control of my own computer.
One thing I'd like to mention is that the instructions for installing it were rather vague. I had to do a little bit of guessing to figure out how to run it. Simple questions like "Do I want to run this installer from inside Cedega or just run it?" are never really even addressed. Interestingly, it works either way, so maybe that's why the question isn't addressed. It still would have been nice just to eliminate any confusion...
So that's that. It's a great GNU/Linux game. It runs great. It has bugs just like every other computer program in the universe. I'm guessing that they'll get fixed one at a time.
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Solbright altaltaltaltt
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:28:00 -
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/me's brain hurts.
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Crag naCron
Has anyone had any luck with anything other than Cedega, something free preferably for us cheap bastards
Working flawlessly in wine. Free enough? :)
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