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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 10:29:00 -
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CCP Please sort out the Angels. They are still the strongest NPCs ingame but they have been nerfed way too much in regards to drops.
After getting 6 spawns since RMR Deployment and having just a tag and ammo from them its starting to annoy me. Aswell as checking within alliance, no one has got anything of any value after RMR. They have been nerfed way too much.
Thank you.
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.01.25 10:34:00 -
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Dont forget civilian shield booster. I got some nice loot right after RMR, but its like they quit carrying anything decent. I did have, literally, like over 100 webifiers, which is a useful mod but damn, and a bunch of crap, all angel loot.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.25 10:45:00 -
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Wait.
Angels?
You need some of these guys.
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.01.25 10:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Wait.
Angels?
You need some of these guys.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 10:56:00 -
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I went to Outer-Ring two days ago, got a commander spawn and got a Serp Neutron Blaster and a few more cool items including a serpentis armor hardener.
PLEASE CCP DO SOMIN
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 25/01/2006 11:16:02
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 25/01/2006 11:15:31
Originally by: sidthesexist
CCP Please sort out the Angels. They are still the strongest NPCs ingame but they have been nerfed way too much in regards to drops.
After getting 6 spawns since RMR Deployment and having just a tag and ammo from them its starting to annoy me. Aswell as checking within alliance, no one has got anything of any value after RMR. They have been nerfed way too much.
Thank you.
Are you talking about Dominations ? Yes, the loot is usually bad. After may 15-20 Dominations my loot was 1 domination tracking enhancer, 1 almost worthless passive kinetic hardener with standard stats except cpu and a +2 halo implant.
But the usual Angel belt rat loot is good in RMR: Everything that dropped pre-rmr plus armor tanking stuff. So I'd say the value of the average Angel BS drops have doubled. ( edit: Think I've got almost 25.000m¦ angel loot from my hunting session yesterday evening and today before dt. Not bad imho. )
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Jankins
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 25/01/2006 11:16:02
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 25/01/2006 11:15:31
Originally by: sidthesexist
CCP Please sort out the Angels. They are still the strongest NPCs ingame but they have been nerfed way too much in regards to drops.
After getting 6 spawns since RMR Deployment and having just a tag and ammo from them its starting to annoy me. Aswell as checking within alliance, no one has got anything of any value after RMR. They have been nerfed way too much.
Thank you.
Are you talking about Dominations ? Yes, the loot is usually bad. After may 15-20 Dominations my loot was 1 domination tracking enhancer, 1 almost worthless passive kinetic hardener with standard stats except cpu and a +2 halo implant.
But the usual Angel belt rat loot is good in RMR: Everything that dropped pre-rmr plus armor tanking stuff. So I'd say the value of the average Angel BS drops have doubled. ( edit: Think I've got almost 25.000m¦ angel loot from my hunting session yesterday evening and today before dt. Not bad imho. )
Where the heck are you doing your NPC hunting? Where I am I dont see a double in drops value, rather the opposite as the launchers have dropped a lot in value for ex. I have had x3 Domination Malakims (10.5mill bounty) and the best thing I got was a Domination AB, rest was ammo and tags, for killing a 10+ mill NPC, its kinda poor. The generel loot might have improved, but who needs 50 odd 1600mm plates or 650mm guns, you can only fit so many and they aint worth crap, certainly not enough to make a run to empire to sell em.
IMPROVE plz !
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Pegas
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:35:00 -
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This is what some Domination spwns dropped yesterday to a guy in our corp:
Domination Malakim: (10.5 Mil Bounty)
Arch Angel Carbonized Lead L
100 Cataclysm Cruise Missile
100 Defender I
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Type-D Altered SS Overdrive Injector
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I
Domination Centurion: (881,250 Isk Bounty)
Domination Proton M
Eradicator F.O.F. Heavy Missile I
Domination Gold Tag Medium
I-a Polarized Armor Regenerator
Medium 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Domination Tribuni: (1,462,250 Isk Bounty)
F-S8 Relativistic Deflection Shield Induction
Arch Angel Depleted Uranium M
F-M3 Munition Inertial Suspensor
100 Defender I
100 Widowmaker Heavy Missile
Type-D Altered SS Nanofiber Structure
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Now I see that domination spwns are more often now but realy... the droppings are kinda crap tbh.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Treebeard dk
Where the heck are you doing your NPC hunting? Where I am I dont see a double in drops value, rather the opposite as the launchers have dropped a lot in value for ex. I have had x3 Domination Malakims (10.5mill bounty) and the best thing I got was a Domination AB, rest was ammo and tags, for killing a 10+ mill NPC, its kinda poor. The generel loot might have improved, but who needs 50 odd 1600mm plates or 650mm guns, you can only fit so many and they aint worth crap, certainly not enough to make a run to empire to sell em.
Yes, like I said, Launchers have dropped in price, I forgot that.
And Domination loot is bad ! If I spot a domination, it's nothing exciting, since I know that they usually only drop a tag and ammo.
So I live mostly from bounties and built my ships from hauler spawns, like yesterday, when I had the luck to find 65.000 Zydrine in one Carrier.
I stockpile the good named loot or use it myself, the rest gets refined. Think the 1400mm 'Scouts' are still quite valuable. Catalyzied coldgas mwds, prototype webbers, XL-C5L etc. fill my hangar for bad times. I'm too lazy to sell that, too. lol.
So if I do some marathon hunting sessions, I end with 60-100 mil bounties per day and a haulerspawn from time to time and all that loot that fills my hangar.
But I miss the officers. Haven't seen a single one since RMR. The last that I found and killed alone while hunting was 5 months ago. Officers where my main motivation to go hunting.
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Blitz0r
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:02:00 -
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/signed
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:06:00 -
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yup, for my last 4 domination spawns (3x 9.3m bs 1x 1,5m cruiser) i have gotten 4x ammo, 2x tags and 1 halo delta (only decent thing i ever got from a domination)
and yeah these angels are definately harder then all the other 0.0 rats i've hunted
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:32:00 -
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Angels are quite challenging to fight, to be sure.
Since I've joined Ascendant Frontier, I've happened upon 3 Cruiser Domination Ships and 1 Battleship Domination ship.
In each I've recieved ammunition, some meta named tech I stuff (nothing to write home about) and two Domination Modules.
One I was very happy about (Domination 10 MN AB) and the other was a Domination Kinetic Shield Amplifier.
But yes, the angels Commander/Officer loot tables may be a little on the sparse side.
That being said, I am thankful to the developers for increasing the spawn rates of Commanders and Officers, it adds a new challenge and dimension to NPC hunting in general. 
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zurich93
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:42:00 -
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The angels need to be boosted, they are the hardest rats in the game and they drop dismal loot, the guristas rats are extremly easy to tank and kill and they also drop some of the best loot, this is very messd up and needs to be fixed. Ether boost the angels so they drop the best loot or make them only do 2 types of damage.
Zurich93
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Major Tarsis
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:45:00 -
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I have hunted Angels most of my Eve Life as a form of income and they have always droped standard stuff.
Even when Arby seiges went for millions of isk the drops from Angels were that rare (compared to drops from Guristas at the same time in the North) that the only real form isk was made off the bounties and not off the loot.
Since RmR has come out the drops for Dominations are far below the drops for other rats elsewhere in Eve. You could make more off the drops of some Gurista Rats Commander rats in Empire (belt rats not mission rats) than off the Angel Commander rats in 0.0.
Can we at least have some response after someone has looked into the loot tables to check they are working as intended.
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Minuz1
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Minuz1 on 25/01/2006 12:58:31
Change the loot, make them ATLEAST drop 1x100mn mwd as a bare minimum.
Cut the crap with spamming the same modules out over and over again when ppl have long ago stopped using them in such quantities.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:07:00 -
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Please CCP can we get a response please?
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:13:00 -
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**** it, I am gonna go find some Guristas.
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Clay101
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:17:00 -
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i'm temted to bust out the apoc and make a visit back to stain for a week the way it's going down south :((
also, i dont like to kill BS NPCs for 1 and 10mn ABs and MWDs :( - that's wat the frigs and cruisers are for
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:20:00 -
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yes but BS still drop cruiser and frig modules there needs to be a balance otherwise everone will get 40 mil factional loot every time and then the prices will drop making them worthless - CCP have a good balance i think - more variation and some new items would be good and hte named strip miners that have been promised pluse some t2 1 run BPCs as well but wont hold my breath.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Corp Scammer
yes but BS still drop cruiser and frig modules there needs to be a balance otherwise everone will get 40 mil factional loot every time and then the prices will drop making them worthless - CCP have a good balance i think - more variation and some new items would be good and hte named strip miners that have been promised pluse some t2 1 run BPCs as well but wont hold my breath.
Obviously you arent taking other factions into account.
ALL other factions drop better loot and are easier to tank/kill.
Nuff said.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:13:00 -
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Domination spawns should always drop a Domination module (Same with all other rats tbh), Even if its simply a Domination Small Autocannon as low end loot. At the very least you'll see a few more people flying around in Domination Armed Assault frigs or zipping around firing missles from a full gurista fitted crow and so on :P
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Clay101
i'm temted to bust out the apoc and make a visit back to stain for a week the way it's going down south :((
also, i dont like to kill BS NPCs for 1 and 10mn ABs and MWDs :( - that's wat the frigs and cruisers are for
signed!
Totaly agree with u tbh. Angels suck - even tho their supposed to be the most advanced NPC's ingame with all their jovian tech...
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Jack Thurner
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:13:00 -
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/Signed
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Stig Caldar
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Edited by: sidthesexist on 25/01/2006 13:07:32
CCP Please sort out the Angels. They are still the strongest NPCs ingame but they have been nerfed way too much in regards to drops.
After getting 6 spawns since RMR Deployment and having just a tag and ammo from them its starting to annoy me. Aswell as checking within alliance, no one has got anything of any value after RMR. They have been nerfed way too much.
Thank you.
Signed!!
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Kop Mcginty
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:35:00 -
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Never had anything other than ammo and tags from my Domi spawns, not seen anyone else in corp fare any better either. :(
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kop Mcginty
Never had anything other than ammo and tags from my Domi spawns, not seen anyone else in corp fare any better either. :(
Please point this thread out to your ASCN brethren. We need to get this fixed. The south is being done out of good loot unlike the rest of eve 
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Exile Devaltos
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Exile Devaltos on 25/01/2006 14:54:35
Been hunting Angels ever since RMR and I'd be lucky to find an arbalest siege with everyone one hundred BS I kill 
*edit* hope its changed though..
Originally by: Wrangler
Thats odd, I always drink after dealing with you people..  
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:04:00 -
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The 10/10s also drop quite naff loot. I think they lowered everything including the drop of the Machariel BPCs.
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Martyr 01
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:39:00 -
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I've been living in an angel infested region for the last year or so and imo; the loot drops have actually a lot gotten better and taken on far more variety since RMR...at least most of it's bs loot now ffs lol.
However I have to say that the bounties on angel complex npc's is utterly pathetic. In terms of the bounties earned an individual would be better off solo ratting than teaming up with ppl to do one for a couple of hours. They started off as as bit high, got nerfed to an ok level, then the last bounty nerf took a 2x4 and smacked em in the testes.
Regular angel spawn loot drops are better than before.
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Maule
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:45:00 -
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Its fine like it is now. Its not like its any harder to kill a 10 commander or a 1.7mil normal bs whit the right ship and setup.
And since they spawn more than frequently(sp?) its good that they dont drop good loot all the time or else those items wont be "rare" even tho they arent that rare imo..
Of the 6 or 7 commanders I¦ve killed since I started playing again (just before christmas) 4 of them dropped atleast 1 item (1 of them dropped 2 items) The rest droppedthe usual named launcher a tag and some ammo..
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