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SinBin	Posted - 2006.01.26 11:51:00 - [91] Edited by: SinBin on 26/01/2006 11:51:28 Originally by: Mortuus As for FE and 5, we'd help, but they haven't asked us too and last I heard they wanted us to stay out of their business. Yea this is correct at this time NBSI & PA have been asked not to get involed with F-E battles. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.01.26 11:59:00 - [92] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 26/01/2006 01:56:32 Originally by: Serend Just wondered what Forsaken Empire pilots and corps are feeling now that The Five are expanding their hold in Venal, thanks to Persh's generous NAP agreement. Unhappy Corporations/pilots might want to consider another alliance.... Serend Black Lance NBSI check our killboards moron. We arent napped with the5. nbsi might want to consider not recruiting members with extra chromosomes. lol - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:10:00 - [93] Originally by: Mortuus Edited by: Mortuus on 26/01/2006 11:12:30 KIA sits outside stations?? Where? Empire? I haven't seen any but a couple roamers that won't fight. We tried chasing your gang the other day but your ran to empire faster than we could chase. Sorry bout that. Are you actually playing the game? If you are refering to yesterday, i dunno, but the last couple of times, there was absolutly no sign of you guys.. only time was saw you guys, was with a full rack of stabs(I got that frapsed). The only time i saw you guys fight back, was when i lost a sacrilege in S-E sunday night.. Kudos for that, even though you lost 4 ships before you managed to collect a 14 man gang to fight back(we we're 3). /Mav With great power, comes great responsibility.
Traffic	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:12:00 - [94] Originally by: KIAEddZ 5 and FE will duke it out no doubts, and then once finished tearing each other apart, NBSI/PA (the real heros!) will step up and claim the victory over 5 and probably over the "traitors" FE aswell. It's the part of "Claim the victory over 5" that I didn't understand
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:14:00 - [95] I bought FE from Persh last night. There will be changes. Slothe is now Captain of the Imperial Curtain Factory. Krin will be placed in charge of nail polish. Lamb Chop will open a bordello for homeless Damsels in Distress. SinBin will get a haircut. Darken Two can take charge of WCS production. Most importantly, Zzzazt will be relieved of all duties and forced to join Loxyrider's new mining corp so as not to screw up my plan. Lastly, I will be bringing in Omber Zombie to enforce most of this so don't even think about resistance. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Cartiff	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:20:00 - [96] can i iron the panties seleene? Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:22:00 - [97] this is the funniest thread i ever read. STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW
Malicious Wraith	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:24:00 - [98] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Poister Originally by: Serend Just wondered what Forsaken Empire pilots and corps are feeling now that The Five are expanding their hold in Venal, thanks to Persh's generous NAP agreement. Unhappy Corporations/pilots might want to consider another alliance.... Serend Black Lance NBSI well I dunno, but I do know if Persh is not working for the other side then hes not very smart. Sorry to f-e guys that have repest for the dude, but come on its not rocket science. A key problem I see alot is members beliving the leader or leaders have some master plan and eveything will be A ok. well for you guys that think this way I hope your right, but I think not. Also when f-e leaders cut ties with pa/nbsi I see a fair amount of f-e members bad mouthing them even tho some was in gang and on the same killmails. Thats pretty weak minded. Persh, best thing you can do is stand down or try to repair the mess you made. Also A nap with 5 even if temp was a dumb idea to say the least. Disclaimer: what I post here has notihng to do with my corp or alliance, Im only saying what they don't have the b*lls to. thx for that. I'm sure your 12 days in FE has given you a well-informed opinion about what goes into the decisions that are made. kthxdie Its a shame a great alliance such as F-E has such poor leadership as this. Attacking their own members after they made a decent and well thought out post? I am fine with F-E's Decision to cut ties with PA and NBSI, but I am saddened and almost outraged when I see this escalating into small pocket fights and flame wars. Just the other day, I was attacked by F-E in nalvula. Is this just another excuse to try to expand? A poor excuse to get more pvp? There must be some motive by the all powerful Pershphanie. -My Comments Reflect My CORPORATION, but not my alliance-
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:32:00 - [99] I dont understand how NBSI can flame F-E for anything, after we have fought their war(s) for a long time. If anything, they should thank us for killing their enemies and securing space they need to travel through. But scr*w politics, I just look forward to some nice fighting in D7. It will be fun, no doubt!
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:33:00 - [100] Edited by: Darcuese on 26/01/2006 12:33:42 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle But scr*w politics, I just look forward to some nice fighting in D7. It will be fun, no doubt! Untill you wont be able to undocking and docking again [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ] FE is a dictatorship run by Persh and a couple others. We aren't some pansy democracy where every members opinion count
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:44:00 - [101] I honestly cannot believe this retarded divide and conquer crap from 5 still works. It beat JQA and everyone knew what was happening, and it'll beat you monkeys too :P Let me paraphrase for you: "Hello Alliance one. You guys sure put up a good fight! Your buddies alliance two sure were slacking off, though!" "Oh noes, you are correct, alliance two was slacking!" "We were not slacking!" "But our enemies said you were, so you must be!" "OH NOEES WE ARE DIVIDED" "Oh noe, teh conquerzored. Ahg, pwned!!!11!11" -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:50:00 - [102] mallik, its the same with G and imp - G was bored to fight their war, simple. its the same with Iron/G not helping PA etc. anymore, the ppl seem to get used to it and forget how to fight, lets see if itll b the same with PA etc. then with imp - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
csebal	Posted - 2006.01.26 12:51:00 - [103] Originally by: Serend Note to Persh: With all due respect, I'm much less interested in what you think of recent events than in what people in Forsaken Empire alliance think. I asked a civil question. If you're unable to respond in kind, please spare us the contents of your spleen. Serend With all due respect: Does it matter what people in a dictatorship think? You asked a flamebait masked as a civil question. If you are so keen on inciting flames, ignite yourself, and save me from using up my precious Flameburst LMs. As you seem to be so keen on hearing our opinion. Here is one for ya: - I agree with the leadership. - The nap with the five was too short, but too long. - I dont ask questions / dont care about the future / so even if the plans fail, i'll just keep on living happily for the present, following the next rule. - I do what i'm told to do, shoot whoever the leadership points at, go whereever they need me to go. Most people have no idea how hard it is to lead a corp, let alone an alliance. Would they know, they would respect the leaders and their decisions a lot more. I was there done that for nearly a year leading my own corp, and i can only respect the people who do take such a burden. The least i can do to make their job easier is to support their decisions. Now you know what i'm thinking. Statisfied? My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Hast	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:00:00 - [104] I think NBSI are shooting themself in the foot with this post tbh. and its getting too late for damage control aswell... Give miners a log off timer
Hast	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:02:00 - [105] Originally by: Seleene Lastly, I will be bringing in Omber Zombie to enforce most of this so don't even think about resistance. I'm so glad I'm not a member of F-E right now Give miners a log off timer
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:03:00 - [106] Originally by: csebal Originally by: Serend Note to Persh: With all due respect, I'm much less interested in what you think of recent events than in what people in Forsaken Empire alliance think. I asked a civil question. If you're unable to respond in kind, please spare us the contents of your spleen. Serend With all due respect: Does it matter what people in a dictatorship think? You asked a flamebait masked as a civil question. If you are so keen on inciting flames, ignite yourself, and save me from using up my precious Flameburst LMs. As you seem to be so keen on hearing our opinion. Here is one for ya: - I agree with the leadership. - The nap with the five was too short, but too long. - I dont ask questions / dont care about the future / so even if the plans fail, i'll just keep on living happily for the present, following the next rule. - I do what i'm told to do, shoot whoever the leadership points at, go whereever they need me to go. Most people have no idea how hard it is to lead a corp, let alone an alliance. Would they know, they would respect the leaders and their decisions a lot more. I was there done that for nearly a year leading my own corp, and i can only respect the people who do take such a burden. The least i can do to make their job easier is to support their decisions. Now you know what i'm thinking. Statisfied? Most sensible post in this thread tbh. .... Real men use blasters
csebal	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:07:00 - [107] Originally by: **take take NBSI has lost more member corps than FE. So much for your great benevolent dictatorship. And who the hell are you to determine what FE members should do. NBSI have through this single thread, proved excatly why Persh took the right decision in seperating us from our "allies". And now I understand excatly why G and IRON didnt want to have anything to do with you lot either. Almost all the FE members on this thread have pretty much said what you didnt want to hear. You have made yourselves the laughing stock of the eve community by starting this thread. Yes there are FE memebers asking questions. I am sure we are all really concerned about the noobs in our alliance questioning everything. Most of the critics couldnt run a one man corp let alone an alliance. So I think NBSI should be more concerned about how deep you wanna dig your own grave than the number of FE pilots who are questioning Persh. Ps. For comparison sake, after the war with .5. started, FE has gained members even after our cull, even after we were consistently losing more ships than PA and NBSI. Goes to prove, people stick around in a fun alliance that does stuff and leave boring alliances that whine a lot. You seem to have taken my previous post as some attempt to undermine or badmouth F-E. It was not that at all. I would like nothing better than to have good relations with F-E but recent events have made me question F-E's leadership. I am thinking about your members more, and their futures in an alliance where the current leadership has started making decisions that most of your members are unaware of and bewildered by. Have you even told your membership that you are entertaining the idea of leaving Vale and Tribute altogether for a place on the other side of the map? Or will they be reading that from an average NBSI member like myself first? Do they know? Do they like it? Will they follow? I just don't like people who hold onto power for their own benefit, and to the detriment of their alliance. Wooohooo, we go on a vacation. I always wanted to see Curse again. Hey... i was in Curse a few years ago, and it was a nice region. Would be nice to live there :) When should i start packing? j/k. If you think that your seriously threatening news had any effect on me, then you are terribly wrong. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.**
Liet Traep	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:14:00 - [108] Your thoughts on this thread depend on what side you're on. If you're 5 or Kia then flame on as NBSI are your enemies. If you're Persh this thread undermines your authority so flame on. If you're NBSI you've spent months fighting side by side with F-E pilots, roaming the pipe, gate camping. Some NBSI pilots were IN gang with F-E pilots when the announcement went out. And consider F-E pilots as friends. And while some F-E pilots privately disagreee with Persh's decision I don't expect them at this point to say so publicly. I know Serend pretty well. He's a good guy. He's asking an honest question. But as has been said before "In Eve even the forums are PVP." You're not going to get an honest answer here Serend. Just more flames mate.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:14:00 - [109] Originally by: Traffic Originally by: KIAEddZ 5 and FE will duke it out no doubts, and then once finished tearing each other apart, NBSI/PA (the real heros!) will step up and claim the victory over 5 and probably over the "traitors" FE aswell. It's the part of "Claim the victory over 5" that I didn't understand it's like PA's "we own venal" and NBSI/PA's "we fight .5." concepts.. sounds great of the fourms.. but not a reality from ingame.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
SinBin	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:41:00 - [110] Originally by: Seleene SinBin will get a haircut. hahaha you dont know how funny that is, your spies are top end. In RL I havent botherd getting a haircut recent as it was keeping me warmer & everyone has been hassling me for weeks, now I think ill even have a ponytail to upset um more & become my avatar once & forall & not even zombies gunno stop me unless he offers a free perm. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:52:00 - [111] Originally by: ****take Have you even told your membership that you are entertaining the idea of leaving Vale and Tribute altogether for a place on the other side of the map? Or will they be reading that from an average NBSI member like myself first? Do they know? Do they like it? Will they follow? That's a good one - who told you that? ____________________________________________
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:52:00 - [112] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 26/01/2006 13:52:34 Originally by: Serend Just wondered what Forsaken Empire pilots and corps are feeling now that The Five are expanding their hold in Venal, thanks to Persh's generous NAP agreement. Unhappy Corporations/pilots might want to consider another alliance.... Serend Black Lance NBSI Unhappy Corperations/pilots might want, as a result of your statement, to cancel any agreements between F-E and NBSI. (say, you ARE a diplomat, right?) --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:53:00 - [113] Originally by: SinBin now I think ill even have a ponytail to upset um more & become my avatar once & forall & not even zombies gunno stop me unless he offers a free perm. I need to resist this temptetion i feel [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ] FE is a dictatorship run by Persh and a couple others. We aren't some pansy democracy where every members opinion count
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:53:00 - [114] I still think NBSI and F-E should siwtch regions Power to the players !
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:53:00 - [115] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Most sensible post in this thread tbh. No, that was mine. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
4thekill	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:58:00 - [116] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Why would the F-E members care too much about what happens outside their space? good question and the answer to that question comes little bit later. 1/26/06 black day for F-E What ever is going on in the space next to you , you SHOULD care about it! ohh well u'll hear everything from the next alt after me. ALTS 4TW \0/null Proud Member of ALT Alliance.
Serend	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:03:00 - [117] Thanks, csebal and Lamb Chop, it was people like you I wanted to hear from. Liet, I don't find much PvP on the forums. A lot of huffing and puffing, yes, and gratuitous insult. I expected flames from Persh and his friends, but am surprised that so many outside F-E felt compelled to comment. Notice the applause, who it's from and where it's aimed.
Serend	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:04:00 - [118] Thanks, csebal and Lamb Chop, it was people like you I wanted to hear from. Liet, I don't find much PvP on the forums. A lot of huffing and puffing, yes, and gratuitous insult. I expected flames from Persh and his friends, but am surprised that so many outside F-E felt compelled to comment. Notice the applause, who it's from and where it's aimed. Transparent, isn't it?
Mortuus	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:04:00 - [119] KIA: It might be a timezone difference. What times are you most active? I'm on PST so it might be a bit off from you. Anyway, best of luck to FE, if you need assistance please ask, we're just waiting for word. Occassus Republica, NBSI
Serend	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:14:00 - [120] Liet, I don't find much PvP on the forums, tbh. A lot of huffing and puffing from the self-important, and a lot of gratuitous (and often off-topic) insults. "Forum" isn't a good term for what happens here. I expect flames from Persh and his friends, but what's interesting to me is that most of the responses come from noisy bystanders in what was intended to be a conversation with people like csebal and Lamb Chop (thanks, btw, for your considered replies). Notice the applause: who it's from, the transparency of its goal. Serend Black Lance NBSI

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