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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:43:00 -
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Ideally sponsorship will come in the form of items that are not insanely valuable (magnates etc) and do not impact the sandbox in any meaningful way. ISK is highly meaningful.
Sponsorship should also be limited to non-profits like Chribba's EVE Files, or The angel project, or possibly EVE UNI. Things that enrich the community and are not simply large scale businesses that send a lot of time card revenue CCP's way. Out of game items are much preferable to ingame ones. T-Shirts, or Rifter Hubs, or other various marketing swag. It would be preferable if game-time was given in such a way it cannot be easily monetized, perhaps game-time directly applied to an account.
These guidelines may not always be preferable and some exceptions may occur but those should be screened through the CSM. Everything should strive to keep the sandbox as pure as possible. Vanity items would be perfect for this. I can see CCP giving out 1000 free ship skins sometime down the road when you introduce that feature. Things that are nice to receive as a player but have no impact on the sandbox.
Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal. Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.10 22:04:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Kate stark wrote:also, generally, the people in the poker tournament put some extra effort in (you know, turning up to the poker tournament, and winning it) vs somer doing nothing that isn't day-to-day business for them. You make it sound like as if creating and maintaining a well know eve online fansite + infrastructure and handling with employees is effortless. This is a good point actually. While we totally understand that everyone has different opinions on different projects, there's no denying that it's not an everyday task to build something that a lot of our players like and use regularly. That goes for a lot of our fansites and other contributors. I'm constantly amazed at the sheer number of high level stuff we see coming from our community members.
No one is debating the effort. The point is they are doing it for profit and they are making a huge profit already. They do not need the additional profit handed to them by CCP. You are doing enough promoting them as is. Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal. Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:39:00 -
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People have pointed it out earlier in the thread. Somer sponsors to generate free advertising and goodwill.
The very same reasons CCP sponsors Somer and other players. There is no altruism here it is all business. This is fine and is a proven business model. Mixing them together at the expense of the sandbox is the core issue.
Guidelines we can all agree on can make this all work. At no point do I think the greater playerbase would like for profit entities getting more profit from CCP. Reward them in other methods, limit direct wealth injection to non-profits if you do it at all. Caution in doing that at all should be the norm.
CCP has far too many tools at their disposal to need to do direct wealth injection. Skinning, vanity items (that do not have huge value), gametime directly on accounts, free advertising (they do this), real world items (hubs,tshirts,passes).
Wealth injection of any kind should be the absolute last resort when the other methods are not appropriate. There are just so many complications that can arise when you cross that line into the sandbox that it should be avoided in the vast majority of cases if not all. Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal. Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
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